Peter Bergen: The Rise and Fall of Osama Bin Laden - Danger Close with Jack Carr

Peter Bergen is an acclaimed journalist, terrorism and national security analyst, and author of the new book, The Rise and Fall of Osama Bin Laden, which examines the life, philosophy, influence, and personal contradictions of the infamous leader of al-Qaeda. Bergen famously interviewed bin Laden in 1997.
Bergen currently serves as the Vice President for Global Studies & Fellows at New America and is New America’s director of the International Security and Future of War programs. He is also a national security analyst for CNN and a professor at Arizona State University where he co-directs the Center on the Future of War.
Bergen is a member of the Homeland Security Experts Group and a fellow at Fordham University’s Center on National Security, and serves on the editorial board of one of the leading scholarly journal in the field of counter-terrorism: Studies in Conflict & Terrorism. He has previously taught at the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University and the School of Advanced International Studies at Johns Hopkins University.
Along with his latest, Bergen has written and edited three New York Times best-selling books, along with four books that have been named among the best non-fiction books of the year by The Washington Post. He is also an Emmy winning documentary filmmaker. His works include Manhunt: The Ten-Year Search for Bin Laden from 9/11 to Abbottabad, United States of Jihad: Who Are America's Homegrown Terrorists, and How Do We Stop Them?, The Longest War: The Enduring Conflict between America and Al-Qaeda, Trump and His Generals: The Cost of Chaos, Drone Wars: Transforming Conflict, Law, and Policy, and more.
You can follow him on Twitter @peterbergencnn

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[@rogerd.miller1095]

Great interview. Peter Bergen represents the best of journalism. What a fount of wisdom.

[@bsmithhammer]

I was about to type essentially the same thing, but no need. Well said.

[@everythingandmore5537]

@@bsmithhammer At minute 1:00:00 we know both are stupid. What Bin Laden did? He turn America into a weak nation. While the US was doing invasions everywhere Russia and China rose. Now the US has been checkmated. These two guys are morons.

[@jimpiepenbrink946]

Another great interview. Thanks Jack and Mr. Bergen

[@zibabird]

Thank you gentlemen! Shared.

[@ianlearmonth]

Just ordered this book , thanks for another great podcast 👍

[@chrismiles8225]

Great listen!

[@FLSheepdog]

This video should be required viewing for servicemembers. It's as best as I have heard an hour synopsis of the last twenty years of conflict. Thank you!

[@nicholashylton6857]

Great podcast! 👍

[@jasonmillwood2893]

Fantastic!

[@Iguazu65]

Really exceptional insights and fact based context setting. Exactly the opposite to what politicians and the media provide. It puts so much into perspective and for that matter how we are all being dragged into wars without justification and now have enemies of our own making as a consequence. Charmer Johnson’s books complement his books extremely well.

[@AKsusan907]

Incredible interview!!! What a man. Completely agree with him (and you) on need to know history. Thank you so much gentlemen.

[@timfletcher8438]

Army LT and Sci-fi Author Rick Partlow is really good as well

[@americanveteran1382]

What nothers me is that he said Fundamentalist a key word. Any religion that someone believes fundamentally and practices has come under attack.

[@smellyfinger684]

We can read the contents of Bin Laden's hard drive but we still don't have Epstien's client list.

[@jenniferborthwick4449]

@smellyfinger684: who cares about Jeffery.This is not the format to talk about this. Be respectful,pay attention to Mr. Carr!

[@smellyfinger684]

@jenniferborthwick4449 I'll respect him when his channel stops deleting my comments, and he personally steps in the ring with me. I'm ex British infantry, SEALS are my breakfast.

[@srpenquino]

@@jenniferborthwick4449 Bin Laden might be on the list. He knew Clinton. Clinton knew Bin Laden. I wouldn’t be shocked.

[@AJD-od9nq]

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[@jackharle1251]

@@jenniferborthwick4449 No, it's all connected. Me Epstein worked for Mossad

[@internet_internet]

I appreciate you, G. I mean…Jack.

[@claycollins8973]

Are there any interviews with the agency lady that found ubl?

[@richkidmahabane3113]

I doubt, she's very secretive I tried finding her the least I got was her name on Wikipedia I believe her side of the story will be better than anyone else's

[@KernowekTim]

For me, this is one of your very finest interviews. I was fascinated from the get go. The SAS glory book stuff is ..ok, but as such it's all 'much of a sameness'.; former operators out to cash in now they're days are done..I'm an 'old-timer', and think that special forces should remain exactly that: Special; shrouded in complete secrecy and absolute silence ad finitum. The BBC TV series, 'Who dares', made me cringe. It made a mockery of the SAS..Little wonder that many former SAS men pre- Iranian Embassy siege are pissed..But hey! That's just my op. However, the information and disclosures that Mr Bergan provides us with is essential matter, that, as you say, "Everybody should go out and buy", so that historical parallels can be seen, and more readily understood...

[@JamesBMiller411]

Jack, I have to ask why when Peter said that what we have to worry about now, amongst a few other things was RIGHT WING DOMESTIC TERRORISM...you let it go. Do you believe that? And if so what exactly, and if not, what not query him on it? Thanks.

[@adampaape6894]

Thank you Sir...I immediately caught that. The fact he even had any association with CNN made me extremely cautious from the get go. I think Jack got it and wanted to bypass any confortasion.

[@everythingandmore5537]

@@adampaape6894 at minute 1:12:00 the two talked about intelligence failure. US has always intelligence failure

[@michaelmckay2749]

Good podcast. Jack's interviews will improve when his questions aren't so verbose.

[@jetset7772]

Crap . It should be a press guy asking a spec ops guy questions , not the other way rounds, left at 7.38

[@JackJackJack123]

Clinton spoke about opting not to take Bin Laden out because of collateral damage…on 9/10/2001. Wild.

[@pedro808]

1998

[@americanveteran1382]

I am against ksm osbl but looking at trends we are closer to another religious persucuted than anyone thinks

[@williamduggins2172]

Usama and Mu'ammar...

[@klk1900]

People, human psychology is much simpler than he’s making it. Humans are animals. The same techniques you use with a monkey, chimp, gorilla, Dog, cat, lion, tiger etc. that’s the way you have to treat fellow humans.-- Perception is reality! So you may be kicking the dog everyday or maybe you get near it’s food or in its face. You can turn a absolute sweet heart into a mean, aggressive, killer; Simply by having the dog perceive your gonna take it’s food! ---- So this applies to humans as well. If you twist arms, bully, intimidate, invade, or give the perception your a occupier or take there oil. you can make a nice human a mean, aggressive, killer just by getting in that territory or if they perceive us to be a threat -- if you look at the USA / Middle Eastern /Libyan peoples view point. Both sides literally believe “we are the good guys defending our land and we both believe the other side is radicalized” .-- (Any logical person knows, if tommy gets shot by 1 bullet then billy and bob accuse each other of shooting tommy. We know both of them can’t be right! Somebody is lying! -- same thing with this. They think we are “radicalized” and we think they are “radicalized” somebody is in denial or lying. -- our biggest problem is I don’t see Afghans, Iraqis, Syrians, Libyans in the USA invading, occupying, taking our oil, or overthrowing our government. -- the most important thing is look at it from the other side and ask “Would i be fine with them occupying the USA?” The answer is “Hell No”. So Americans just need to understand. They most likely will perceive us to be a threat and just like a cute little puppy dog, That dog will eventually turn into a monster. So we just need understand what we are setting ourselves up for.

[@ianmangham4570]

Fkn hilarious, the CIA couldn't find him but CNN did. 🤡😂

[@capitanpinga833]

I hope this guy makes horror movies the into looks dope

[@jakhaughton1800]

If the West had offered the poppy growers the best price for their crop and sold it to the pharmaceutical industry at a profit we could’ve saved thousands of lives and billions of dollars. Also we could have given the farmers back up if they were under Taliban pressure. Every Afghan has a weapon.

[@Arbiter710]

Exactly

[@beowulf3303]

Pretty sad when the truth gets censored!

[@kathrynludrick4821]

What right wing terrorists? Is Bergen is referring to those who engaged in Jan 6 riot? I wish the supposed right wing terrorists theory could be objectively investigated and reported by news media,. But I would rather the media investigated and reported with an overall look at purported terrorists in America. Just who are actually engaging in terrorism in US? What is terrorism and who gets to define it? I'm not interested in media's opinions but in knowing the actual truth.

[@Arbiter710]

Terroism has to have an ideological or political motive for it to be terrorism

[@ianmangham4570]

@@Arbiter710 Tell that to the state department

[@SKILLIUSCAESAR]

People the f3ds recruit and gaslight into idiotic crimes like planning to kidnap a governor 🙄

[@kirstenwebber3582]

Terrorism is whatever group or country dares to resist the west and colonialism. Al Qaeda or daesh or Russia or China or right wingers if you're on the left or left wingers if you're on the right or whatever. What sets apart al Qaeda is the scale of the attacks themselves. I cannot think of anything that shook the west to it's core like 9/11 did. It made the west aware of it's vulnerability.

[@nicholashylton6857]

I would guess he is referring to the Oklahoma city bombing and the bombing of abortion clinics.

[@jetset7772]

Why do spec ops guys never shave? How you going to wear a respirator

[@douglaswynn9668]

Thanks PeeWee!

[@Jinka1950]

Mr. Bergen is an excellent speaker and researcher. However, he has way too much adoration and respect and kisses up to the left wingers. Working for CNN says everything.

[@MrCashewkitty]

I wonder if he believes his propaganda political views or just sold out?? He did great journalism in the past....

[@alwagner9722]

This was nothing but mainstream propaganda for sure. Evidence highly suggests bin laden died in December/ 01 from complications due to Marfan Syndrome while on dialysis.

[@michaelshelton9071]

I liked this interview with the exception of "the right wing" comments without even mentioning ANTIFA or BLM on the "left wing" but he has worked for CNN so I guess I should have expected that comment.

[@adampaape6894]

Right on Sir! Well said. He's appeasing his handlers narrative/agenda...smh. Jack knows this, he's just being coy about it.

[@beowulf3303]

Who was President years before 911 and made the decision not to take him out??......he was in the cross hairs but WHO made the decision to let him keep breathing that night thus leading to the attacks on 9/11??!

[@Andingo86]

Well it wasnt bill clinton it was actually the head of the CIA, do your research....

[@Andingo86]

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[@meenmug5797]

You lost me at ‘CNN’........

[@andrewdavies3584]

I love your interviews. However, Osama, formerly Usama, formerly Tim Osman (CIA) was not at the compound during the raid, he was in Iran, where he had been for many years. It was supposed to be a political 'trophy kill' for Obama and the real reason his administration transferred the billions in cash to Iran! They were paid to relocate him to the compound in the village of Abadabad from Tehran, however they did not. VP Biden was responsible for giving the order for the cover up, when ISI trained paramilitaries engaged and destroyed Seal Team 6's helo at the designated waypoint. The truth needs to come out and it WILL. Travesty. This is why Osama was not captured and brought back to the States to face trial and instead dubiously buried out at sea. No trace. ST6 were murdered to insure none of them spoke. "Dead men tell no tales". Peter Bergen is a spook and feeding you shit to keep the lid down. Also evident by his pushing of the 'right wing terrorist' narrative. Most 'contractors' are 'journalists'.

[@anthonylewis9256]

The team that died during extortion were not apart of the raid . I don't trust the govt ither but the SEAL team was not killed . Extortion were QRF for a TIC and they took an RPG while inbound simple as that .

[@lashachakhunashvili1399]

And the Earth is flat, too. Right? :)

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