Peter Hitchens predicts "a united Ireland run by Sinn Fein"

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2 жыл бұрын

Sinn Fein has become the biggest party at Stormont for the first time after it reached 27 seats in the Northern Ireland Assembly election, pushing the DUP into second place.
Talking to Mike Graham, Peter Hitchen's warned that this election result in Northern Ireland could result in the 'death of the union'.
Northern Ireland Secretary Brandon Lewis said: “I encourage the parties to form an executive as soon as possible. The people of Northern Ireland deserve a stable and accountable local government that delivers on the issues that matter most to them.
“The electorate delivered a number of messages on Thursday. They were clear that they want a fully functioning devolved government in Northern Ireland, they want the issues around the protocol addressed, and that they want politics to work better.
“Over the coming days I will be meeting with all the party leaders and will urge them to restore the Stormont institutions at the earliest possible moment, starting with the nomination of an Assembly Speaker within eight days.
“The Government remains committed to the Belfast (Good Friday) Agreement and will continue to work with the Northern Ireland parties and the Irish Government to deliver its vision for reconciliation, equality, respect for rights and parity of esteem.
“Together, we must move forward towards a brighter future - that means delivering for all the people of Northern Ireland.”
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@homolgus1
@homolgus1 Жыл бұрын
As an ex soldier I was in NI in 1972, and we were educated about the background to the troubles, I believe the Unionist were to blame for the troubles they ran a protestant state for protestant people Catholics suffered discrimination in all aspects of life and naturally it all blew up however news reporters forget about this Sinn Fein did not cause the troubles But Peter Hitchins said it all when he said "the DUP would never let the northern executive be led by Michelle O Neill say it all really
@miakeogh6844
@miakeogh6844 Жыл бұрын
Robert Kelly I met another ex service man who said exactly the same thing
@jonsweeney3845
@jonsweeney3845 Жыл бұрын
The dup wouldn't want a Catholic/Nationalist about the place never mind 1st minister.
@terjoe6643
@terjoe6643 Жыл бұрын
As a young Catholic who grew up in and with exactly what you describe, I'm thankful for your truthful understanding of how it actually was. I despised and l still despise the British presence in my country but, as a Catholic, murder is murder, no matter the murderer, and l despised the violence from all sides. I don't watch Talk Propaganda which is as honest as Fox and Sky but l voted for Brexit. Why? Because l knew that it would hasten the end of the British Union, move Ireland more rapidly towards its rightful reunification, and its eventual move back to where it belongs - Europe. I'm Irish, first and foremost, and l have English cousins, but I'm also European. They're not mutually exclusive much as Talk Propaganda proselytism demands.
@noelter
@noelter Жыл бұрын
Yes 100% right 👍
@0w784g
@0w784g Жыл бұрын
Where do these fenian hobgoblins spring from.
@scooby1992
@scooby1992 2 жыл бұрын
Hitchens is quite right regarding the terrible bombing campaigns by Republican terrorists in Northern Ireland and the rest of the UK , but failed to mention the bombs in Dublin and Monaghan placed by Loyalists
@mikedon5205
@mikedon5205 2 жыл бұрын
Not just that but these so called experts tend to forget that it was loyalist violence in the late 60s that brought about the provisional IRA . As the official ira in the 60s had more or less decided to give up then
@pjconey
@pjconey 2 жыл бұрын
With explosives supplied and built by the British army. The Littlejohn Brothers spring to mind.
@trevaudio
@trevaudio 2 жыл бұрын
Because like most English people, he knows SFA about Ireland or Northern Ireland
@larrygerry985
@larrygerry985 2 жыл бұрын
Of course, because that would be against the Unionist narrative.
@m.p.7075
@m.p.7075 2 жыл бұрын
@@larrygerry985 elaborate on which narrative you refer to please. Have any serious unionist politicians ever denied that unionist terrorists set off bombs in the Rebublic which led to the deaths of innocent people? Are you suggesting IRA reign of terror and murder is a hoax narrative peddled only by unionists? The son of my old primary school teacher must have been shot in the head by a figment of unionist imagination.
@warrenpaine
@warrenpaine 2 жыл бұрын
The original "appeasement" was giving Ulster unionists their own private fiefdom against the democratic wishes of the majority of people in Ireland. Northern Ireland has always been an anomaly and this grows more obvious every year.
@loneprimate
@loneprimate Жыл бұрын
Right on. Exactly. That was the FIRST caving in to terrorism by the British government.
@joprocter4573
@joprocter4573 Жыл бұрын
It was the gfa a divorce due to irreconcilable differences
@TheLastAngryMan01
@TheLastAngryMan01 Жыл бұрын
Quite. Unionists only had a clear majority in Antrim and Down, while Derry and Tyrone had nationalist majorities at partition. NI was the maximum area that unionists could hold.
@joprocter4573
@joprocter4573 Жыл бұрын
There was no room in 26 counties for your kind of fifedrum.
@joprocter4573
@joprocter4573 Жыл бұрын
Why did they need separate state ask yourself why were 40 thousand Irish ppl be it they were protestant get ethnically cleansed prior to partation.. HARDLY SOUNDED LIKE A WELCOME CARD
@fergusfitzgerald977
@fergusfitzgerald977 2 жыл бұрын
This proves beyond any doubt that even clever British people completely lack any understanding of Ireland. Espect nothing from them and then you will not be disappointed !
@barryk00da
@barryk00da 2 жыл бұрын
How can they talk so extensively about Northern Ireland and not for one second discuss the ethics of occupation? It seems they are pro-occupation but no effort to justify why.
@0w784g
@0w784g Жыл бұрын
You mean the revolutionary force that occupies the south?
@joprocter4573
@joprocter4573 Жыл бұрын
The Irish not indigenous but pirates from iberia n Europe to scotti they renamed Ireland and we're NEVER EVER UNITED
@peterharridge8565
@peterharridge8565 10 ай бұрын
@@joprocter4573 Yeah OK, that's not all of them though is it. If they have got red hair they are indigenous (mostly). But to be honest that could apply to Britain also, who are we, Saxons, Vikings, Romans, Normans. Take your pick but none of them are indigenous. They weren't united but nor were the British or even English. It was the Normans that made us truly united. And they were either French or Scandinavian, take your pick on that too. France wasn't united either. You can't get away from the fact that England invaded and are still there in NI. They invaded a lot of places, but they are not there are they? Work that one out. Of course like most people I have Irish ancestors, but don't claim I'm Irish unlike Joe Biden who it seems is an idiot. He is American and I am English (i'll give you British). Trump proves that you can be descended from a Scot and a German and still be American. Ditto the Irish born today. How far you want to go back, at heart we are all Africans.
@tomtomftube
@tomtomftube 7 ай бұрын
@@joprocter4573 we have been here longer than the unionists , its our country - we have our own language and culture we are not anglo saxon we are Gaels
@felixjconvery
@felixjconvery 6 ай бұрын
​@@joprocter4573ridiculous justification that only brain dead colonialists will make. This nation was not entirely homogeneous before we got there.and thus our imperialistic endeavours and crimes there are not only justified but said occupation should continue. Also while yes prehistoric Ireland was made up of several competing warring factions this context applied to northern Ireland either fallacious or intentionally misleading. Northern Ireland was only formed in opposition and fear to an Irish parliament that would grant rightful land redistribution and particularly in the north the spectre of equal housing and employment prospects. Northern Ireland is easily one of the most despicable colonial projects in recent memory and to preach otherwise boggles the mind.
@bobbyg-lord4873
@bobbyg-lord4873 2 жыл бұрын
Do you only like democracy when you win?
@aor3220
@aor3220 2 жыл бұрын
I like listening to Peter Hitchens on a range of issues but unfortunately when it comes to Ireland there are the gaps in his knowledge. It's absurd to say 'you can't fly the union flag in N.Ireland '. There are more union flags flying in Belfast than London.
@paddyhalligan28
@paddyhalligan28 2 жыл бұрын
I think he may be referring to public buildings.
@aor3220
@aor3220 2 жыл бұрын
@@paddyhalligan28 The union flag frequency flies from public buildings in N.I so as I said large gaps in his knowledge
@TheLastAngryMan01
@TheLastAngryMan01 Жыл бұрын
Indeed. The fleg protests were due to the Union Flag being only flown on a designated number of days, as in Britain, not because it was removed altogether.
@tomtomftube
@tomtomftube 7 ай бұрын
and fucking right too , it has no right to fly. imagine an english person looking up and seeing the swatiska fly over the houses of parliment , thats the revulsion i feel in my stomach when i see the butchers apron in my country.
@DerekTJ
@DerekTJ 7 ай бұрын
​@tomtomftube I always take comfort in the facts that St Patrick is represented on the Union Jack and that when Ireland is finally united, the Union flag will have to change. Also, the saltire of St Patrick on their flag is born out of conquest, while the Irish tricolour represents the Unionists out of peace.
@eughrologh
@eughrologh 2 жыл бұрын
Painful to listen to such ignorant grand standing.
@richardrisner3635
@richardrisner3635 Жыл бұрын
Please expand
@eughrologh
@eughrologh Жыл бұрын
​@@richardrisner3635 When Peter suggests peace in Ireland was a surrender I hear a man who feels like there should have been more war which no one, bar a few loonies, here in Ireland wanted or wants. And generally contradicts his opinion of other wars and I suspect is merely contrarian grandstanding.
@patrickmac2799
@patrickmac2799 2 жыл бұрын
While I decry the bombing campaign in the 70s and 80s, and the gentlemen rightly criticise it, it would be a bit unfair to not recount the special operations taking place in Ulster at the same time. The Army were up to some very bad behaviour. Uncivilized behaviour is not justified because it is done in the name of the crown.
@Stand663
@Stand663 2 жыл бұрын
Oh give over the terrorist were running wild. How do you subdue a wild animal. ?
@colmmcdonnell6256
@colmmcdonnell6256 2 жыл бұрын
It was a dirty. War .as they usually are watching Russia in Ukraine is similar to British in Ireland
@1916jamesconnolly
@1916jamesconnolly 2 жыл бұрын
British Military intelligence, MI5 MI6 was arming and giving information to Loyalist murder gangs all through the Troubles. Never mind F.R.U a British undercover unit was driving round and killing random innocent Catholics. They were also deeply involved in the Dublin and Monaghan bombings which killed 34 people. IRA committed horrific atrocities but at least they owned up to everything and didn't cover it all up and then gave the perpertrators medals and hefty pensions. It was a dirty war but when the State is involved in brutal murders it makes it a lot dirtier.
@robertjarman4261
@robertjarman4261 2 жыл бұрын
Absolute rubbish. Russia is in the right fighting NATO. UK was in the wrong.
@ianmacleod6571
@ianmacleod6571 2 жыл бұрын
When you have a Terrorist Guerrilla force fighting against a regular Army then there is bound to be conflict where the lines get crossed. When you say that "bad behaviour" on the part of the Crown Armed Forces but don't mention the cowardly use of IED's killing and maiming civilians or doesn't that constitute bad behaviour ? All wars are atrocities ! It always amazes me that most people in the UK don't realise that the Crown Army went into N. Ireland to protect the Catholic Nationalist minority from persecution from pro British terrorists. Unfortunately that came to pass with "Bloody Sunday" I fear that this interference from the EU backing Sinn Fein, who may or may not realise they're being used to disrupt the UK, will only start the violence off again. I hope I'm wrong.
@ralphdavidson9542
@ralphdavidson9542 2 жыл бұрын
I was brought up in Northern Ireland and now I live in Liverpool. Take it from me, even in the most Irish of English cities, not many people give a shiny shite about Northern Ireland.
@compedious591
@compedious591 2 жыл бұрын
We don’t care either tho
@englanduk6131
@englanduk6131 2 жыл бұрын
@Ralph Davidson.... There speaks a republican! 😁
@joprocter4573
@joprocter4573 2 жыл бұрын
No because Irish migrants are majority in UK
@joprocter4573
@joprocter4573 Жыл бұрын
Liverpool little Ireland.
@joprocter4573
@joprocter4573 Жыл бұрын
Because jobs and income and what that brings means Liverpool even less focused on trouble or boredom
@Paddy234
@Paddy234 2 жыл бұрын
Terrorist Violence didn't win because the Terrorists (British Forces) failed to defeat the IRA in both 1919-1921 and in 1969-1998. The result was a independent South and in the north a GFA enabling an ever growing move toward peaceful reunification, this was only made possible unfortunately through a great struggle. Thank God for our patriots who made the ultimate sacrifice 🇮🇪 People should know better. A United Ireland was always inevitable from 1998, the changing demographics and GFA prove this.
@AB-gi3qy
@AB-gi3qy 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I'm sure the killing of hundreds of civilians was well worth it
@sandpiper2012
@sandpiper2012 2 жыл бұрын
Can see your a grown up lol
@DSN262
@DSN262 2 жыл бұрын
All right paddy 😂
@AB-gi3qy
@AB-gi3qy 2 жыл бұрын
@@sandpiper2012 I can tell you're not lol
@colmmcdonnell6256
@colmmcdonnell6256 2 жыл бұрын
@@sandpiper2012 lol is exactly what one of Irelands great martyrs said our children will be. Doing when freedom arrives.the giggles are starting and our laughter is beautiful
@patrickdoyle9304
@patrickdoyle9304 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to hear two British imperialists call the good Friday agreement Appessement... the artificial 1921 border was the original appeasement to a minority after the majority of Irish people voted for independence
@jimcazador6057
@jimcazador6057 2 жыл бұрын
Well when you put a 500lb Bomb in Canary Wharf the financial capital of London it gets things moving, and releasing mass murderers on both sides I would call it appeasement. In 1921, 1921 was not an appeasement but a compromise, that the Free State government fully and tacitly agreed too (take it down from the mast Irish Traitors) A minority movement on the Island started a dirty war (more Irishmen fought in France in 1916 than in the rising) then they SF surfed of the sympathy factor after 1916 to gain support for Independence, it was a cruel, phoney, criminal war. The same tactic as SF today, cause 3.5k deaths, the armed struggle was a failure then present yourselves as Democrats and surf again of the Dynamics of narrow nationalism(its all the brits fault) btw, the Union was copper fastened several times in Irelands history, 1921, 1937, 1974 and 1998 with the GFA which SF signed up to which again copper fastened the Union. Its Republicans who have caused the divisions in Ireland not anyone else.
@rockerjim8045
@rockerjim8045 2 жыл бұрын
Correct, there’s an election results summary clip on the BBC that states that Northern Ireland was created to allow the Protestant community a permanent majority in Stormont
@user-ur2kn8qy5t
@user-ur2kn8qy5t 2 жыл бұрын
Well said.
@grahamfleming8139
@grahamfleming8139 Жыл бұрын
7 out of 9counties of Ulster have voted European 🇪🇺 and Irish, we in Scotland will clear the anti democratic tories oot..
@nutyyyy
@nutyyyy Жыл бұрын
Especially when the agreement was backed and enforced by the US, and quite frankly, the US should force Britain's hand and remind them of their own place if they try and violate the treaty.
@New-ye2fl
@New-ye2fl 2 жыл бұрын
Independence for Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
@ishka8384
@ishka8384 2 жыл бұрын
Shout out to Hitchens from the peaceful streets of Derry.✌
@josephharley9448
@josephharley9448 2 жыл бұрын
who is this
@ishka8384
@ishka8384 2 жыл бұрын
I am but a fart in the wind, like everybody else here.💭
@kalladom5592
@kalladom5592 Жыл бұрын
Isn't Sinn Fein the largest party both north and south of the British imposed border? I call that democracy! It's only a matter of time...
@joprocter4573
@joprocter4573 Жыл бұрын
Votes but not most of country. Majority still british
@amysands8925
@amysands8925 8 ай бұрын
Never vote Terrorist into goverment.
@niallsheehan474
@niallsheehan474 2 жыл бұрын
Ireland for the Irish , England for the English and their loyal Commonwealth members , plus the odd dodgy Oligarch
@sandpiper2012
@sandpiper2012 2 жыл бұрын
Grow up...
@DSN262
@DSN262 2 жыл бұрын
What about all the foreigners Ireland has let it
@juancarlosalonso5664
@juancarlosalonso5664 2 жыл бұрын
DSN 1 You xenophobes are everywhere, uh?
@compedious591
@compedious591 2 жыл бұрын
balkanisation 🥰
@austinbourke9292
@austinbourke9292 2 жыл бұрын
Ireland for the Irish?/ Are you from outer space Ireland has'nt been for the Irish since we joined the EU . Just look at our fishing industry.
@sofiacurrin6825
@sofiacurrin6825 2 жыл бұрын
Ireland has suffered enough of the British. One island one Republic. 800 years of slaughter and mayhem is by far enough!
@oldskoolrools3087
@oldskoolrools3087 2 жыл бұрын
LOL...you've got a good grasp of history haven't you
@charlesmartin4454
@charlesmartin4454 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant news Ireland
@RazorMouth
@RazorMouth 2 жыл бұрын
People in the Republic are sick of the old guard FF and FG. The youth under 40's mainly want better services, affordable housing, both rental and for purchase. FF and FG are out of touch and SF are pulling away in the polls at about 36%. That's a high percentage in Irelands system these days with about 8 political parties. 3 large parties, 2 medium and 3 or so small. I suspect there will be a referendum before the end of the decade and NI will cease to exist. The middle ground in NI alliance voters will decide and Ireland with EU backing will make them an offer too good to refuse. That my take on it anyway.
@jimcazador6057
@jimcazador6057 2 жыл бұрын
I would say SF could make Government in the south 2 or 3 times before there is a referendum for a UI, People in the North looking down there see with horror what the FF-FG gov are doing, pathological mass immigration, no health care system, vulture-hedge fund capitalism, rents, bills, crime etc. SF need to actually revolutionise the state and society but it appears they would be more of the same as FF-FG, the EU does not really allow a Humane Budget, and the four principles of the EU are causing more problems than they seem to help, if the Sligo murders and that young female jogger are to go by and it will get worse, free movement that pushes up rent and housing stock (that's not getting built) and pressure on services, an Irish NHS is virtually non existent and paying 60euro to see a doctor and another 60 for a repeat prescription. I was always an Irish Nationalist and I would really need to think long and hard about voting yes under these conditions.
@openureyes
@openureyes 2 жыл бұрын
Fully agree
@compedious591
@compedious591 2 жыл бұрын
If I can keep my job in U.K. financial services I’m all in
@fujohnson8667
@fujohnson8667 2 жыл бұрын
So they vote for Sinn Fien who have already sold out to the globalists 🤣
@OSTARAEB4
@OSTARAEB4 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. It will be a NI Alliance Party SF alliance.
@kevinetheridge7201
@kevinetheridge7201 2 жыл бұрын
It’s quite funny really, all these years Sinn Fein wanting a united Ireland and brexit will deliver it.
@jeremyboughtono2
@jeremyboughtono2 2 жыл бұрын
It wont its more likely to deliver an independent Ulster and a lot of bloodshed.
@ralphdavidson9542
@ralphdavidson9542 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, deliver them into the arms of the EU. It's mad.
@juancarlosalonso5664
@juancarlosalonso5664 2 жыл бұрын
Ralph Davidson Mad? The EU is a way bigger union than the UK so more beneficial, they wouldn’t have a border with the rest of Ireland anymore, they’d have way more independence in the EU than in the UK, they wouldn’t be considered second class citizens as they’re now,… how is it mad?
@colmmcdonnell6256
@colmmcdonnell6256 2 жыл бұрын
@@ralphdavidson9542 Ireland have no problem with EU .the farmers are subsidised the infrastructure all of this. Is positive for Ireland.what we don’t respect is the British occupation of our country and the brutality it’s army showed when in the. North. .British can get out and enjoy thier brexit while A United ireland will thrive
@SwissCheese112
@SwissCheese112 2 жыл бұрын
the whole point of the conversation was that the 1998 agreement meant it would happen anyways. its just been a matter of time
@scottread
@scottread 2 жыл бұрын
Oh just unite Ireland already and be done with it.
@patmustard1511
@patmustard1511 4 ай бұрын
Even if the 7 year vote comes into play it would still be a majority unionist vote.
@raymondsawyer8626
@raymondsawyer8626 2 жыл бұрын
It is for the Irish people north and south too decide but please decide peacefully , never return to violence
@stevehealy7504
@stevehealy7504 2 жыл бұрын
After hundreds of years of colonialism, I hope it happens.
@jeremyboughtono2
@jeremyboughtono2 2 жыл бұрын
It would be a bloodbath the Loyalist para-militaries are still around they are have just temporarilly stood down
@skadooshly
@skadooshly 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeremyboughtono2 they no longer have the backing of the British State or the British Military. It wouldn't last long.
@thechristianworker6718
@thechristianworker6718 2 жыл бұрын
@@skadooshly what do you think the serving ulstermen in the british army are going to do and the veterans when the sein fein marxists commence the genocide of the pul Community in ulster.
@jimjiminy5836
@jimjiminy5836 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, well over due and much welcomed.
@ardri31
@ardri31 2 жыл бұрын
@@jeremyboughtono2 bunch of crackheads u mean lol
@billyplummer8010
@billyplummer8010 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t agree with you need special permission to fly one these days there’s more union flags flying in Northern Ireland than anywhere else in the UK.
@speedster2464
@speedster2464 2 жыл бұрын
Billy he was talking about flying the Union Flag on Government buildings etc, and he’s correct. You are of course correct also as its individuals and areas that fly the flag, which in some instances cheapens it!
@RazorMouth
@RazorMouth 2 жыл бұрын
Flegs 🙄
@shaneohare75
@shaneohare75 2 жыл бұрын
You'd need very special permission to REMOVE a union flag.....if you valued your life.
@fujohnson8667
@fujohnson8667 2 жыл бұрын
More to do with the fact that Sinn Fein is still overseen by the IRA army council.
@rapier1954
@rapier1954 2 жыл бұрын
He's talking about gov building, not on top of your outhouse. You can fly whatever you want on your own shithouse.
@seandelap6268
@seandelap6268 2 жыл бұрын
Was a victory for the DUP a victory for the UVF or UDA or does that only apply when its Republicans who gain control i like what Peter Hitchens says on a lot issues but he is biased on this one.
@sof553
@sof553 2 жыл бұрын
Some almost laughable level of ignorance by Hitchens in this area. How could the RUC not have been disbanded/ reformed? The northern state was founded to maintain a purely Protestant majority. People who owned businesses had more actual votes, where they could command political control of areas where they were just 20% of the population. It was an outrage and it’s pure ignorance of the historical situation that Peter doesn’t understand.
@asanulsterman1025
@asanulsterman1025 2 жыл бұрын
Don't you think Peter was despising gov.uk's capitualtion to the IRA in the GFA? Don't you think he was warning against SF taking power in ROI and NI? In what way do you think he is biased?
@DeezilOyl
@DeezilOyl 2 жыл бұрын
Firstly Sean, the Republicans have not gained control, they are now the largest party having got the same number of seats they had at the last election, not gaining seats. There was more first preference Unionist votes but their vote was split 3 ways. There is still a Unionist majority overall. Secondly, the DUP always opposed and condemned violence, just like the Nationalist SDLP. The PUP is the party who represents uvf/uda and 'loyalists' and they do not have any elected representative unlike Sf/IRA as decent people wouldn't vote for them. Finally, while i agree with hitchens on many issues, he is out of kilter on this one as the prospect of a united Ireland is romantic fantasy, unless, of course, they are going to return to their murderous campaign and that ended in failure
@asanulsterman1025
@asanulsterman1025 2 жыл бұрын
@@DeezilOyl Well said.
@douglastaggart9360
@douglastaggart9360 2 жыл бұрын
You obviously no nothing about Northern Ireland the uvf/uda had no connection with the dup whereas sein fein does have connection with the ira
@tomr4376
@tomr4376 2 жыл бұрын
If the majority of people in Ireland both sides of the border vote SF to run a united Ireland that is what we call democracy, Ireland should never have been partitioned in the first place.
@mick1406
@mick1406 2 жыл бұрын
Boy , you really do need to read the history of your country. Then you will completely understand why partition had to happen.!
@tomr4376
@tomr4376 2 жыл бұрын
@@mick1406 not if ye had taken the planters back to Scotland on your withdrawal from Ireland
@colmmcdonnell6256
@colmmcdonnell6256 2 жыл бұрын
@@mick1406 you sound more like billy than mick
@compedious591
@compedious591 2 жыл бұрын
@@tomr4376 ethnic cleansing then is it? I thought you lot were the peaceful, more purer kind
@mick1406
@mick1406 2 жыл бұрын
@@colmmcdonnell6256 Never a Republican .Not now, not ever. 😂
@johnbrady8059
@johnbrady8059 5 ай бұрын
It's great to watch this clip after such a momentous day yesterday
@jamesrichardson3500
@jamesrichardson3500 2 жыл бұрын
I went to a Grammar School, we didnt have a pot to piss in, the education was first rate. I count my blessings every day that I was born 44 years ago and not in the last 20.
@matthewlynas5089
@matthewlynas5089 2 жыл бұрын
Same, best in Europe and still is.
@peterdoyle1591
@peterdoyle1591 Жыл бұрын
All you need to know about NI is that the protestant DUP refuse to enter the Northern Ireland Assembly because it now has a legally and democratically elected Catholic First Minister. All this talk about giving in to IRA terrorism is a load of rubbish. The IRA are gone because there are people in every society that refuse to be treated as second class citizen's and the GFA sorted that. The problem with the Unionists and a lot of British people is that equality feels like oppression to them.
@RazorMouth
@RazorMouth 2 жыл бұрын
Hitchens is like, "this guy's a fkin twat" I can see it in his eyes.
@qgde3rty8uiojh90
@qgde3rty8uiojh90 2 жыл бұрын
No regular person in England cares about NI. Only politicians do. Just let them go and be done with it.
@joprocter4573
@joprocter4573 Жыл бұрын
Must be you met no regular ppl in england
@peterharridge8565
@peterharridge8565 10 ай бұрын
That's proabbly true, anyway not care enough to die for it. Scotland, that is different. I know, I lived there once.
@miakeogh6844
@miakeogh6844 Жыл бұрын
The unionists in Northern Ireland saying they are British is a laugh as wherever they go in the British isles they are considered Irish. The big problem is that nobody wants them the Scottish the English or the Irish
@joekavanagh8997
@joekavanagh8997 Жыл бұрын
You hit the nail on the head by saying ," nobody wants them."The are the black sheep of Ireland ,Britain AND Europe.They did huge damage to our relationship with the English.Thankfully that relationship has been mostly repaired and the Old Queen did her bit ,while alive ,by going to Ireland and making friends of many , including in my native County Cork. Again ,well said,thank you!
@jdfiend
@jdfiend Жыл бұрын
We're not going anywhere we're born here and if the place has to burn it will burn
@joekavanagh8997
@joekavanagh8997 Жыл бұрын
@@jdfiend The comment Mia Keogh made is right on the money.NOBODY wants you including me.The only place you're welcome is at Rangers games spewing your hate and waving your flag per usual.Thats ALL you people are accomplished at . I was born in the Republic, many years ago ,and I ,like most people there ,do not want the beautiful and now successful country I grew up in united with the mobs on the Shankhill, the Sandy Row ,Portadown etc. Don't like the IRA and Sinn Fein either as they are in cloud cuckoo land with their pipe dream 32 County Republic. As long as my Catholic brothers in the six counties have their civil rights let things be I say.
@ike637
@ike637 Жыл бұрын
​@@jdfiend yes you stay there. And love it under irish rule. And if ya want war , it.ll have to be against the brits
@jdfiend
@jdfiend Жыл бұрын
@@ike637 you haven't a clue what your talking about lol , away back too nursery school
@bhagawanpoudel1155
@bhagawanpoudel1155 Жыл бұрын
Yes💯 UNITED IRELAND🇨🇮🇨🇮🇨🇮
@windowman929
@windowman929 2 жыл бұрын
26 + 6 = 1
@geoff873
@geoff873 2 жыл бұрын
Actually it equals thirty two.
@jaimehyland2250
@jaimehyland2250 Жыл бұрын
Peter Hitchens getting it almost exactly wrong again ... as usual. On Northern Ireland this time.
@jonathanlax734
@jonathanlax734 2 жыл бұрын
Peter Hitchens is s boring old Tory Fart and some of his pronouncements on Northern Ireland are ludicrous: constant harping on the “terrorist “ IRA without a word about the Ulster paramilitaries, with whom British military actively supported; the Good Friday Agreement actually favored the Unionist and left the Irish republicans with the short end of the stick, and hardly addressed the economic discrimination against the NI Catholics. However, PH does note that Westminster and Parliament have always regarded Northern Ireland as the orphan of the UK, and have done very little about its poverty and neglect. That is what is really behind Sinn Fein’s rise politically, both in the Republic and North.
@AnthonyWilliams-ew3wp
@AnthonyWilliams-ew3wp 2 жыл бұрын
The vast majority of people in the mainland can’t wait to hand NI over to Eire. It’s just a headache with no upside.
@conallcoulter697
@conallcoulter697 2 жыл бұрын
You don't even care about Northern Ireland. You just care about this feeling (you clearly have) that Northern Ireland represents the enduring British empire.
@oldskoolrools3087
@oldskoolrools3087 2 жыл бұрын
That might fit the narrative in your mind and make you feel superior somehow, but the reality is that most Brits look to the future, unlike the Irish (North and south) who are constantly looking towards the past
@conallcoulter697
@conallcoulter697 2 жыл бұрын
@@oldskoolrools3087 yeah good man yea 👍
@tomtomftube
@tomtomftube 7 ай бұрын
@@oldskoolrools3087 bit hard to look to the future when the British are still claiming stolen land from the 16th/17th century
@josejoseph493
@josejoseph493 2 жыл бұрын
It's about time Ireland comes together
@douglastaggart9360
@douglastaggart9360 2 жыл бұрын
Why what's your reasoning
@douglasdodds8490
@douglasdodds8490 2 жыл бұрын
Is that a romantic notion your having?
@mick1406
@mick1406 2 жыл бұрын
Just more fantasy you're talking I'm afraid - it ain't that simple! The politics of NI is a minefield.
@jeremyboughtono2
@jeremyboughtono2 2 жыл бұрын
Why do you want a bloodbath.
@eamonn3446
@eamonn3446 2 жыл бұрын
The British: The people of Ukraine should have freedom to choose who governs them. They are a sovereign nation and we will do everything to support them in their fight against tyranny. Also the British: We own part of Ireland
@ralphdavidson9542
@ralphdavidson9542 2 жыл бұрын
Yes but Britain once had all of Ireland and a settlement arrived at the current situation. Britain respects the sovereignty of Eire and we have relative peace. Russian are attempting to take Ukraine by invasion and the murder of innocent civilians. Think of a stronger comparison.
@compedious591
@compedious591 2 жыл бұрын
Do you not understand what the orange in ‘our flag’ is for. The largest minority in Ireland are Brits. The ‘new Ireland’ can’t create unity through sneering.
@0w784g
@0w784g Жыл бұрын
Were you asleep in 1998?
@garyhutton2654
@garyhutton2654 2 жыл бұрын
Jayas this was not a intellectual interview from both sides I read and understand the good Friday agreement , terrible wrongs were visited by all the people of northern Ireland by all the players remember bloody Sunday , ballymurphy Birmingham , Manchester,Omagh and Monaghan . The fact of this is sinn Fein are more on the ball the dup are weak all over the shop . If anyone in northern Ireland wants to be British and remain thus nothing can by law change it and visa versa Irish . If there is an United Ireland it's doesn't mean we don't love or care for GB it's just we value ourselves more
@brianmcmanus7213
@brianmcmanus7213 Жыл бұрын
Almost all the colonies under British rule have gone, so it's natural progression that the Irish will reclaim there Country, by the way armed loyalists funded by the British murdered hundreds of innocent Catholics, so it's clear that the British were up to there necks in terrorism against nationalists . There are constantly in Court making payouts to people who suffered under the British.
@RPM.Belfast
@RPM.Belfast 2 жыл бұрын
Never ceases to amaze me how a man with such a brilliant brother in the late Christopher, can be so contrived and willfully ignorant. A distinct lack of nuance, on an immensely complex subject.
@jacksynth271
@jacksynth271 2 жыл бұрын
He does speak grains of truth and even though I find him awful pessimistic, he's probably my favourite contrarian alive today ha but you're right Christopher was far more competent to speak on NI. He abhorred the monarchy too if I'm not wrong?
@USS-SNAKE-ISLAND
@USS-SNAKE-ISLAND 2 жыл бұрын
He's got that "lack of nuance" down to an art, doesn't he? lol
@christopherhitchens163
@christopherhitchens163 Жыл бұрын
Apologies for my brother
@susannamarker2582
@susannamarker2582 Жыл бұрын
And you're better ?
@tomtomftube
@tomtomftube 7 ай бұрын
its not unanced or complex , its very simple the unionists and british are wrong they have no right to claim our territory
@cgmat7804
@cgmat7804 Жыл бұрын
Brexit and the rise of English Nationalism has been the ultimate end game for Northern Ireland and Scotland. Westminster has cared little for years. As soon as there was devolution and the chance to cut direct ties they gladly took it!
@catrionaskivingtonskivingt4819
@catrionaskivingtonskivingt4819 10 ай бұрын
The U.K. government would rid itself of NI in a heartbeat but sadly it’ll cling to Scotland.If WM loses Scotland it loses massive resources. The usual crap about Scotland being too wee too poor & too stupid to be independent is not cutting it anymore the Scot’s have woken up.
@openureyes
@openureyes 2 жыл бұрын
I'm giving SF my #1 vote in southern Ireland in the next election
@austinbourke9292
@austinbourke9292 2 жыл бұрын
Then Sir you hav'nt a clue what you are doing
@openureyes
@openureyes 2 жыл бұрын
@@austinbourke9292 oh but I do and so did all the voters in the north it's call democracy
@austinbourke9292
@austinbourke9292 2 жыл бұрын
@@openureyes Wait til you are paying through the nose for health care under sinn fein in the Rep
@openureyes
@openureyes 2 жыл бұрын
@@austinbourke9292 you get what you pay for I understand your concerns but SF cannot be any worse than what's in there at the moment
@austinbourke9292
@austinbourke9292 2 жыл бұрын
@@openureyes I totally agree whats here at the moment especially with those Greens killing us.But some staunch rep friends of mine have assured me that the Rep will never be able to match the benefits of living in the North and so when it comes to reunification they will vote to stay
@devinnlimbu7989
@devinnlimbu7989 Жыл бұрын
YES 💯%✔️ UNITED IRELAND🇮🇪🇮🇪
@vinniechan
@vinniechan 2 жыл бұрын
This will be interesting given the SF is also the joint largest party in the Republic as well That said after Obama I learn that every time we think some big changes are coming things stay the same or we just drudge along at best so let's see
@patbaker-ll8ef
@patbaker-ll8ef Жыл бұрын
One sided view of Northern Ireland. Believes in democracy as long as unionists win 🙄 The unionists would be treated just the same unlike rhe nationalist who were not allowed the same jobs, housing or healthcare when the unionists had total control.
@andrewleyden2752
@andrewleyden2752 Жыл бұрын
I quite often disagree with Peter Hitchens, but he does make very salient points here, which are very much alive today.
@daleanderin1
@daleanderin1 2 жыл бұрын
Scotland takes the U.K loving Northern Irish and the Republic can take Scotlands Rep of Ire lovers, sorted, harmony resumes.
@delladog
@delladog 2 жыл бұрын
Yea but the mix of accents would be unbearable
@ArcadeCabNBud
@ArcadeCabNBud 2 жыл бұрын
@@delladog haha TOTALLY !
@asanulsterman1025
@asanulsterman1025 2 жыл бұрын
Scotland reunites with Ulster is a good plan. Did you know the last king of all ireland was a Bruce. Did you know that the native population of Ulster was Pictish before the Gauls invaded. Did you know that the Scot in Scotland comes from Ulster. Slava Ulster, Slava Ulster-Scots, Slava Greater Scotland
@RazorMouth
@RazorMouth 2 жыл бұрын
@@asanulsterman1025 🙄
@mrjars5721
@mrjars5721 2 жыл бұрын
@@asanulsterman1025 yeah and then "the Bruce" went to Dundalk and got wacked.
@AnthonyWilliams-ew3wp
@AnthonyWilliams-ew3wp 2 жыл бұрын
Apart from bruised ego, would we, the rest of Britain, really miss Northern Ireland? They don’t come across as a particularly nice bunch.
@roisinmalone3015
@roisinmalone3015 2 жыл бұрын
Say goodbye to Scotland too.
@bryanthompson6187
@bryanthompson6187 5 ай бұрын
Talk TV is hilarious. Honestly better than any intended comedy
@liammorrissey5407
@liammorrissey5407 Жыл бұрын
Freedom fighters
@redbox4363
@redbox4363 Жыл бұрын
Peter correctly pronounces Fianna Fáil unlike most even in the party itself.
@FreeIreland32CountyRepublic
@FreeIreland32CountyRepublic 2 жыл бұрын
People like Peter Hitchens never had any place in Ireland, the sooner we're rid of English/British interference forever the better 🇮🇪
@sandpiper2012
@sandpiper2012 2 жыл бұрын
What about people like me? what will you do with a 64 year old Unionist with a small u.....
@tuntejaable
@tuntejaable 2 жыл бұрын
@@sandpiper2012 you are 64. No offense but majority are very old.
@FreeIreland32CountyRepublic
@FreeIreland32CountyRepublic 2 жыл бұрын
@@sandpiper2012 What about u, there's plenty of ex-pat's living in Spain and other European countries 🤷
@dpg957
@dpg957 2 жыл бұрын
@@sandpiper2012 we have given you an irish passport there you go, youa re welcome
@ardri31
@ardri31 2 жыл бұрын
@@sandpiper2012 well we sure as hell won't treat u as bad as catholics were treated if that's what u mean, no one want sectarian violence again, end of story.
@keyboarddancers7751
@keyboarddancers7751 Жыл бұрын
Ireland is a separate place from the rest of the United Kingdom.
@robertdavies8305
@robertdavies8305 2 жыл бұрын
What a load of S..., This guy does not understand that southern Ireland owes the EU hundreds of billions of Euros that they did borrow years ago. This is still to be paid as they have just all most paid the British bank's loans off. Also, Northern Ireland relies on the major taxpayer for its budget. The Mainland. As Northern Ireland is like Scotland they do not make enough taxes to pay for their living. Scotland owes the Banks 301 Billion pounds. Dept and they owe a Chinese Steel bank £501 million. So Sturgeon has stitched Scotland up for good.
@1conor
@1conor 2 жыл бұрын
Ireland paid Britain back that loan years ago
@robintucker465
@robintucker465 2 жыл бұрын
Dismantle Britain and we might have a chance of surviving this globalization mess.
@asanulsterman1025
@asanulsterman1025 2 жыл бұрын
Ironic that Robin Tucker sort of rhymes with Clever Fukker, don't ya think?
@5thnorth
@5thnorth 11 ай бұрын
Yes Peter, United Ireland has been on the cards for the past 15 years but more so now
@normanmeharry58
@normanmeharry58 Жыл бұрын
The 1973 Sunningdale agreement included the clause that GB no longer had a strategic interest in NI. Though it was worded as it being up to a simple majority of its people to determine unification.
@johnbryson1019
@johnbryson1019 2 жыл бұрын
This is hilarious stuff. Two old pub bores.
@jacobmojapelo2448
@jacobmojapelo2448 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha! Bring Back the British Railway
@johnbryson1019
@johnbryson1019 2 жыл бұрын
@@jacobmojapelo2448 What we need is a few more car-bombs. That would strengthen the Union and the British temperament. Country going to the dogs.
@ralphdavidson9542
@ralphdavidson9542 2 жыл бұрын
How can it be hilarious and boring at the same time??
@inglejuice
@inglejuice 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to TalkTv. Tacky Mickey Mouse drivel. Dragging in all the has beens.
@johnbryson1019
@johnbryson1019 2 жыл бұрын
@@ralphdavidson9542 Because this kind of radio has become a parody of itself. They don,t give pub bores a microphone, pay them a fee to drone on like this and then label it controversial.
@simonlooms6206
@simonlooms6206 2 жыл бұрын
I always feel sad after I sad after listening to Peter because he’s mostly correct.
@krackerman3628
@krackerman3628 2 жыл бұрын
He's usually wayyyyyy off. Comes from being the lesser brother.
@trevaudio
@trevaudio 2 жыл бұрын
No he’s not !
@kenlandon6130
@kenlandon6130 2 жыл бұрын
No. He's mostly wrong. His whole analysis of the GFA as "appeasement" is nonsense. The only part he gets right is the part about why a United Ireland will happen.
@kenlandon6130
@kenlandon6130 2 жыл бұрын
And really the whole characterization of the IRA as "terrorist." While yes it did commit terrorist acts such as attacking civilians like most armies do, it was only waging a war of independence during the troubles because there were no real democratic channels. The NI Parliament was gerrymandered in favor of unionists, the UK parliament had few NI representatives, and Jim Crow style discrimination against Catholics was perfectly legal. Civil disobedience was violently suppressed.
@SagaciousFrank
@SagaciousFrank Жыл бұрын
​@@krackerman3628 , "the lesser brother", only a troll would post this.
@garrymcfadden4105
@garrymcfadden4105 2 жыл бұрын
Oh the empire is finished , no foreign lands to seize...
@cheiftain732
@cheiftain732 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you ☘
@jeffatkins6890
@jeffatkins6890 2 жыл бұрын
It’s someone’s country you’re talking about , mind your own business
@bigbirdcage753
@bigbirdcage753 2 жыл бұрын
Spot on. I was told that in 2006 by a UK government official based at the NI Office who helped draft the protocol.
@grlfcgombeenhunter2897
@grlfcgombeenhunter2897 10 ай бұрын
He who cast the first stone very one sided discussion lads. There would be no ira if it wasn’t for England simple.
@AB-gi3qy
@AB-gi3qy 2 жыл бұрын
The UK needs to protect its borders and protect the people within, we're quick to help other people help there in other countries. It's about time we told the EU to do one and ensure that Northern Ireland is an integral part of the UK just the same as Wales and Scotland, England.
@dpg957
@dpg957 2 жыл бұрын
lol well dumbo the people of the occupied 6 counties will soon be voting to leave what you gonna do them
@johnbryson1019
@johnbryson1019 2 жыл бұрын
Er sorry but the majority of people in NI voted to stay in EU. The whole purpose of the Protocol was to allow the people of NI to cherry-pick and enjoy the maximum of advantage of being in the Uk and EU. This why the business community is strongly behind and many unionists are indifferent to it.
@colmmcdonnell6256
@colmmcdonnell6256 2 жыл бұрын
It’s brexit voting people like you that didn’t stop to think about what you were getting with. A brexit vote that caused the problems .Ireland will now unite while British will be friendless in the business world.borris will go down in history as. The pm that lied his way to divided uk .thanks borris enjoy your beer
@fomorians
@fomorians 2 жыл бұрын
The only reason Ireland was colonized by the English in the first place was because they were afraid of the Spanish and the French conquering Ireland first, and then attacking from there. They never had interest in Ireland otherwise. And the only reason NI exists is because it was the only plantation that succeeded. The English used Ireland as a colonial experiment. They then used the "knowledge" they gained on North America. It's a new era now, island of Ireland should be an independent Republic.
@dpg957
@dpg957 2 жыл бұрын
@@fomorians some truth in that but strongbow and the anglo-norman knights were the french and they came to ireland for the land and wealth of that land
@douglastaggart9360
@douglastaggart9360 2 жыл бұрын
I usually agree with Peter hitchens but i think he's wrong a united Ireland firstly most people in Northern Ireland won't too be part of the United Kingdom and more importantly the Republic can't afford a united Ireland financially or even politically.
@robdubz1510
@robdubz1510 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly sf are in favour of high taxes how would they afford reunification 🇩🇪 still can't.
@FreeIreland32CountyRepublic
@FreeIreland32CountyRepublic 2 жыл бұрын
lol the Republic has the 4th highest GDP per capita in the world 😅 Secondly the census next month is projected to have a nationalist majority for the first time in 100 years. It's only a matter of time 🇮🇪
@compedious591
@compedious591 2 жыл бұрын
@@FreeIreland32CountyRepublic What planet are you living on? The U.K. is 5th and ROI is 28th. Germany is 4th
@FreeIreland32CountyRepublic
@FreeIreland32CountyRepublic 2 жыл бұрын
@@compedious591 actually the U.K is 36th.
@compedious591
@compedious591 2 жыл бұрын
@@FreeIreland32CountyRepublic where are you getting these numbers?
@lesliesweeney368
@lesliesweeney368 Жыл бұрын
What's wrong with that, it's the way it away's sould have been done so get with it!
@garracloyne
@garracloyne Ай бұрын
They blew it.
@DSN262
@DSN262 2 жыл бұрын
What will happen first?! “United Ireland“ or England win the World Cup?
@austinbourke9292
@austinbourke9292 2 жыл бұрын
England will win the world cup 3 times in a row and get to keep the world cup
@opola1432
@opola1432 2 жыл бұрын
@@austinbourke9292 3... 2... 1... and then you wake up from your delusional trance. England win another world cup? You must be having a laugh
@tonywilliams7152
@tonywilliams7152 2 жыл бұрын
in what sport?
@austinbourke9292
@austinbourke9292 2 жыл бұрын
@@opola1432 Yes my firend I am having a laugh
@talktv
@talktv 2 жыл бұрын
Could this election result lead to a united Ireland run by Sinn Fein?
@sof553
@sof553 2 жыл бұрын
It’s only a matter of time at this stage. Look at the demographic trends it’s all going in one direction. Sinn Fein got a bunch of highly educated 30 something year old women elected (who will be in politics for the next 30 years) and the unionists are to their detriment represented primarily by dinosaurs who would be hard pressed to operate a word processor. Always remember politicians lie, the numbers don’t
@asanulsterman1025
@asanulsterman1025 2 жыл бұрын
No, it could easily lead to another war of independence on GB's doorstep though. Slava Ulster.
@sof553
@sof553 2 жыл бұрын
@@asanulsterman1025 a loyalist ‘war for independence’ could reduce the north to 2 counties in a matter or weeks. I say go for it 👍🏻🇮🇪
@DomDeDom
@DomDeDom 2 жыл бұрын
It could. But Brexit was probably the main driver.
@asanulsterman1025
@asanulsterman1025 2 жыл бұрын
@@sof553 Ulster is 9 counties, that's what we will be fighting for. Slava Ulster.
@Mr.L007
@Mr.L007 10 ай бұрын
Mary lou will be the leader of Ireland North,South,East and West.
@DL10663
@DL10663 Жыл бұрын
Uniting Ireland and ending the sectarian Northern Irish state is righting an historic wrong.
@fossilfern
@fossilfern 11 ай бұрын
So the solution is No wiped off the map? Lmao there’ll never be a United ireland then.
@DL10663
@DL10663 11 ай бұрын
@@fossilfern are you drunk?
@jeremyboughtono2
@jeremyboughtono2 2 жыл бұрын
No chance the loyalists are more likely to declare UDI or wage a war of terror against the republic if they are forced into a unified Ireland.
@Paddy234
@Paddy234 2 жыл бұрын
Loyalists were nothing more than gangsters. They are about ad effective as such. They could never wage guerilla warfare which requires extensive support especially financial worldwide
@jeremyboughtono2
@jeremyboughtono2 2 жыл бұрын
@@Paddy234 Gangsters exactly like the IRA/SF butchers then. It requires very little support to wage a terrorist war now if you have cash you can buy anything. Cash will come from drug sales and other money will come from loyalist groups all over the world.
@didyeaye2481
@didyeaye2481 2 жыл бұрын
How would they do that? Will the British state be arming them again?
@rapier1954
@rapier1954 2 жыл бұрын
Not without the British arming them
@edwardbrady5843
@edwardbrady5843 2 жыл бұрын
They wouldn't last a week, wage war my ass unionists can't tie their shoe laces.
@Evemeister12
@Evemeister12 2 жыл бұрын
Well done to Sinn Fein. All of Ireland must be free of British rule. The unionists shot themselves in the foot when they supported the Brexit disaster.
@mick1406
@mick1406 2 жыл бұрын
But .... if you want a United Ireland you have to take on the Loyalist community as well and they will never accept rule by Shinners from Dublin. So good luck sorting that mess out. Yeah, well done Sinn Fein. LOL 😆
@jeremyboughtono2
@jeremyboughtono2 2 жыл бұрын
The loyalist community would be a difficult pill to swallow economically and politically it would certainly reignite the troubles.
@shanebell2514
@shanebell2514 2 жыл бұрын
Only repartition will solve the long term situation in NI, the status quo and reunification will not work. South Down, South Armagh, Tyrone, Fermanagh, Southern half of county Londonderry including Derry city west of the Foyle to be united with Eire, the rest of NI stay in the UK.
@jackmcnally9237
@jackmcnally9237 2 жыл бұрын
Reparations for 800 yrs.damage. Then repatriation enforced and payed for by the British!
@speedster2464
@speedster2464 2 жыл бұрын
Will that would be an extremely sad day for the law abiding citizens on both side of Irelands border!
@didyeaye2481
@didyeaye2481 2 жыл бұрын
Ireland's "border"...is the coastline.
@ProfileP246
@ProfileP246 Жыл бұрын
On three sides anyway😂
@joprocter4573
@joprocter4573 Жыл бұрын
Even Ireland don't want that
@raymiemac71
@raymiemac71 2 жыл бұрын
Our problem here in ulster is that we have to many unionists parties. One unionist political party and with the votes of the middle class Catholic people, SF/IRA wouldn't have had the numbers to succeed... SAD TIMES AHEAD. 🇬🇧
@frolicwitme
@frolicwitme 2 жыл бұрын
Ulster has 9 counties, you mean N I which is 6
@edwardbrady5843
@edwardbrady5843 2 жыл бұрын
Who is SF/IRA, never heard of that party?
@malsmith1618
@malsmith1618 2 жыл бұрын
Your theory wouldn’t work nationalists would just have to create one party
@galacticfederation9064
@galacticfederation9064 Жыл бұрын
The planters ARE the problem.
@scooby1992
@scooby1992 Жыл бұрын
What is putting off any Catholiics including right wing ones from voting for unionist parties is those parties anti Catholic views.
@loneprimate
@loneprimate Жыл бұрын
I'm going to ask the question. Who were the British to partition Ireland in the first place? Surely the country had the right to have its desire, AS A COUNTRY, to be independent respected in 1921. But let me offer a parallel case and see what people think. Suppose, in 2016, the EU had said, "We respect the right of the parts of the UK that voted to leave to freely go. However, it is manifestly clear that the people of Scotland wish to remain, and so with their help, the EU will be erecting customs stations along the Scottish-English border. Scotland will remain in the EU, it will continue to be represented in Strasbourg, and will continue to make and be subject to EU laws and standards." Now. The outrage that you're feeling at the very idea of that happening, and at the arrogance it even suggests, is what Irish nationalists, north and south, have been feeling for a hundred years. And wasn't bowing to the threats of Unionists back then the very first instance of "giving in to terrorism"?
@Judgementday-qp1ol
@Judgementday-qp1ol 5 ай бұрын
Sad Sectarian, Colonial, and Bigoted individuals indeed.
@natashalall3553
@natashalall3553 Жыл бұрын
and the british army shot innocent civilians dead on the street, the uk police imprisoned innocent irish people pulled out of their beds in northern ireland, not to mention the long history of discrimination and oppression...
@Chris1553
@Chris1553 2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s time NI, Scotland and Wales went on their own, it’s time England looked after No 1 !
@shanebell2514
@shanebell2514 2 жыл бұрын
That would mean the home counties.
@mick1406
@mick1406 2 жыл бұрын
As a proud English man I'd certainly vote for that. Time to look after ourselves for first time in 300+ years!!
@DaBIONICLEFan
@DaBIONICLEFan 2 жыл бұрын
London and the southeast would still be all Westminster cared about, regardless of whether Scotland and Wales are attached to us or not.
@shanebell2514
@shanebell2514 2 жыл бұрын
@@mick1406 The English has had their cross overlaid over others in the union Jack, and the capital has been in London, you have had the lions share of the glory within the Union.
@shanebell2514
@shanebell2514 2 жыл бұрын
@@DaBIONICLEFan So are you advocating Northern English independence?
@benvids
@benvids 2 жыл бұрын
We’re a relatively small island, I feel as at home in England as I do Scotland. Ireland feels very familiar to me too. The Celtic keyboard warriors and the Empire nostalgia heads need to get out more. There’s little difference.
@roisinmalone3015
@roisinmalone3015 2 жыл бұрын
A bit confused. You talk about a relatively small island. Ireland is a separate island.
@benvids
@benvids 2 жыл бұрын
@@roisinmalone3015 I acknowledged that in my comment.
@roisinmalone3015
@roisinmalone3015 2 жыл бұрын
@@benvids No you didn't. You mentioned Scotland and England (left out Wales), and then said Ireland feels very familiar to you. You didn't say that it was a separate island. Plus most of it is an independent country to the UK
@benvids
@benvids 2 жыл бұрын
@@roisinmalone3015 Now you listen here Roisin. I mentioned Ireland in a separate sentence, that ought to be sufficient. I didn't mention Wales because I haven't been to Wales, much to the upset of the Welsh. The divisions within the UK are to me, superficial. I say again, it's a small place and the trees up north look as good as those down south. The contentment those trees provide is also present a short hop across the water in Ireland (which I am reliably informed is a separate island).
@roisinmalone3015
@roisinmalone3015 2 жыл бұрын
@@benvids A separate sentence means Ireland is a separate island and an independent country? That is a new one to me
@jasonmendelli6023
@jasonmendelli6023 2 жыл бұрын
And the winner of the most pompous is...
@FirstLast-ve6jg
@FirstLast-ve6jg 2 жыл бұрын
Bring the boys home. No more British forces in Northern Ireland.
@themccarthyplan2020
@themccarthyplan2020 2 жыл бұрын
Sinn Fein are not for the Irish People remaining dominant in our ancestral homeland. They are about English out, every other racial and ethnic group in❤️🙏
@mikki3562
@mikki3562 2 жыл бұрын
It's quite amusing actually, listening to two British gentlemen talking about a part of a country that Britain has absolutely no right to be in. The six-counties are Irish national territory that was annexed on the basis that Britain had a local settler population around which it could erect a border. Irish national rights are denied by a British occupation which was enforced through its military. Settlers do not have sovereignty and Britain must leave Ireland completely and forever. The British have had control of the narrative of the conflict in the north based on their bombing of Dublin in 1974, where British military intelligence used its proxy, the UVF to demand a crackdown on the popular support for the national cause and the struggle of the Irish people in the north under British sectarian domination, and of course to impose only their narrative of events. There is always the chance that the British will start another conflict just as they started the last one. The difference this time however is that Ireland has immeasurably changed since the 60s and 70s in terms of population, demography, economically and politically. If that conflict were to happen, it would certainly be finished on Irish terms, with the removal of Britain from Ireland and its British empire sectarianism, to be replaced with an independent democratic 32 county Republic.
@maxmartin7080
@maxmartin7080 2 жыл бұрын
Have to say I kind of liked Peter Hitchens before this (and certainly his brother Christopher), but this has ended now watching this pompous, ignorant and arrogant crap! If Northern Ireland had ever been a fair and equal place to live for Catholics, they would never have had any reason to take up arms in the first place Peter!
@brotherdom1
@brotherdom1 7 ай бұрын
Peter Hitchens .what a great human being and his brother Chris Hitch Slapped .Im not atheist and i am sure his spirit dwells in an energy of pure love Yes an energy science will undoubtly ,Will discover and already have a serious inkling it does.From a not so religious Theist
@jimjiminy5836
@jimjiminy5836 2 жыл бұрын
A United ireland is inevitable and long over due.
@shughy1
@shughy1 2 жыл бұрын
Not really, Ireland can't afford to pay 14 billion quid a year to make it float. Do you think Irish people can afford to do that?
@pjconey
@pjconey 2 жыл бұрын
@@shughy1 We'd rather sink into the Irish sea, than remain under British rule.
@shughy1
@shughy1 2 жыл бұрын
@@pjconey you're not under British rule, it's been your choice for many years... Do you think Britain wants a place that costs billions every year just to keep afloat? Speak for yourself, I live in Republic and do not want the north as it will bring new civil war into the republic, I'd rathe keep the peace
@yermanoffthetelly
@yermanoffthetelly Жыл бұрын
@@shughy1 Ireland won't be paying anywhere near €14 billion as there are many costs that won't transfer over to a unified state (UK defence spending, share of UK national debt, ect) €3.5bn according to DCU studies and €4bn according to the CSO.
@shughy1
@shughy1 Жыл бұрын
@@yermanoffthetelly it'll cost more than that to police the new civil war it will bring. We are at relative peace right now remember, so the figures are small right now.
@michaelfern4079
@michaelfern4079 2 жыл бұрын
Islamic Caliphate of United Ireland - 2045
@jooseppielleese7156
@jooseppielleese7156 4 ай бұрын
You know Britain has more muslims and they're are in postions of power.
@danielbuxton4493
@danielbuxton4493 2 жыл бұрын
I'm English, and I have no problem with a united Ireland - it makes sense. However, the SNP can dream on if they think that independence makes sense to them!
@pov_music
@pov_music 2 жыл бұрын
All nations should have a right to self-determination!
@fyrdman2185
@fyrdman2185 2 жыл бұрын
The Problem is that there are still a lot of British people in Ulster that was sent there to colonise the land that they still have a firm British identity, what do you do with them? As an Englishman i'd support my kin, why would i want to sell them out to appease the irish?
@oracle8589
@oracle8589 2 жыл бұрын
@@pov_music But they do lol. Nobody is holding Northern Ireland hostage, they are free to do what they want, the problem is they want to be in the UK but the government probably don’t as Ireland has been nothing but a ball ache for decades as far as they’re concerned. Not the same with the average brit who would I’m sure like Northern Ireland to stay
@briancarton1804
@briancarton1804 2 жыл бұрын
@@fyrdman2185 If you support them take them back. Bet you would be soon fed up with them as they are religious nutters.
@peterharridge8565
@peterharridge8565 10 ай бұрын
@@pov_music What is a Nation though. What about East Anglia, is that a nation. Used to be. My view is Britain is the nation, Scotland is not a nation . This way leads to anarchy, look at Catalonia. And more smaller nations which leads to wars. But Scotland already decided in 2014 (not a liftetime ago), and now the SNP has imploded. So won't happen I would suggest. Polls say SNP on 36%, at polls a time ago was 48%. So over.
@ataboyboyboy8895
@ataboyboyboy8895 Жыл бұрын
The mighty USA will make sure of that. They love Ireland.
@totallybonkers2447
@totallybonkers2447 2 жыл бұрын
Just politics , Willy waggling , Ireland doesn’t want , n, Ireland, uk pays £400 million a week to n, Ireland, good luck Ireland paying that , plus loss of trade , as Ireland is per capita one of the most indebted countries in the world , 47 k euros per person even a child , well done Eu loving Ireland 👌🏻
@LeMerch
@LeMerch 2 жыл бұрын
I think thats the problem. NI doesn't work in the UK. It would work in a United Ireland.
@douglasdodds8490
@douglasdodds8490 2 жыл бұрын
Did Britain not give the South 6 billion pounds in 2008. They were on there knees.14 billon to keep N Ireland,they don't call them cute whores for nothing.
@Jen8973
@Jen8973 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Dublin wouldn't want tbe headache.
@greglyons2526
@greglyons2526 2 жыл бұрын
Ireland is loaded my friend
@mick1406
@mick1406 2 жыл бұрын
@@greglyons2526 Yeah loaded with drug dealers, crooks, dodgy politicians, freeloaders, tax avoided, immigrants and gangsters!! LOL 😅
@joekavanagh8997
@joekavanagh8997 2 жыл бұрын
I usually agree with Hitchens more than disagree with him.His book ,"The Rage Against God" puts into words my feelings on the subject. But like a lot of Englishmen ,his evaluation of the Irish and the Irish Question leaves more than a little to be desired. I was born in the Republic and I know my country and my countrymen even though I haven't lived there for well over 40 years. The majority of people in the Republic will balk at voting "Yes" to a United Ireland. They quite rightly ,like myself ,do not want the peaceful and now successful country they were born in ,to incorporate one million Ulster Unionists ,most of whom have an undying and quite perverse.allegiance to Britain. I say "perverse" because that loyalty is not reciprocated by the citizens of the larger isle. No I say ,like most Irish Nationalists will say ,let England keep Northern Ireland and let it be a noose around its neck eternally.They created the problem and therefore they should suffer the consequences.Let them pay for "the sins of the fathers." As long as Catholics in the North have equality before the law I am quite happy with the status quo.I believe the majority of my countrymen will vote to maintain that status quo when they are in the quiet privacy of the voting booth. Who ,in his right mind ,would want those political neanderthals on the Shankhill Road ,the Sandy Row or Portadown etc,in their nice, peaceful ,law abiding country? Mr Hitchens and his countrymen are more than welcome to them till hell freezes over! PS -- The IRA and indeed Sinn Fein do not have anything even close to a monopoly on Irish Nationism.This is not the Sinn Fein of men like Arthur Griffith and Michael Collins and the majority of Irish Nationalists on the island of Ireland know this and will act accordingly in any future referendum on unification.
@myvirtualpresencefyi
@myvirtualpresencefyi 2 жыл бұрын
Well said!!! Although I do have a proposal: The (now wealthy with double the GDP of the UK) Irish State could buy* tracts of land in, say, Yorkshire, build beautiful houses on them and give them to NI Unionists. It worked for Scotland/ Britain when they wanted to purge themselves of impossible to please extremists and bought** land in neighbouring Ireland. Basically a "please fk off and when you've fkd off, stay fkd off" deal. Whaddaya think????*** *buy not steal ** lol let's not go there!! * * * totally tongue in cheek idea
@joekavanagh8997
@joekavanagh8997 2 жыл бұрын
@@myvirtualpresencefyi You said "Well Said " to my comment, I say "WELL SAID X10 " to yours! You are a man after my own heart ,we love our country and we love it too much to be united with those people on the Shankhill and the Sandy Row. In an act of Christian fellowship we should build houses for them in the UK and they can take the train ,instead of the boat or plane ,and watch Glasgow Rangers on a Saturday and spew their hateful filth ,while getting hammered by our boys at Celtic Park! PS - I'm not a rich man , but I would gladly pledge $2000 for the building of these accommodations.I'm sure there are at least a million more Irish /Irish Americans like me who would gladly do likewise.Thats two billion dollars right there! Dude ,that's a lotta semi detached!! You said your comment was "tongue in cheek" but you don't realize what a great idea you had! Don't undersell yourself and don't underestimate yourself! Your idea oozes potential!
@endasims3443
@endasims3443 Жыл бұрын
Excellently put .
@joekavanagh8997
@joekavanagh8997 Жыл бұрын
@@endasims3443 Thank you Mr Sims ,for your positive reply to my post..If there is a referendum in the near future ,I believe that people with our same view of "The Irish Question" ,will carry the day.I find the Loyalist attitude to Roman Catholic Irishmen quite repulsive and the Sinn Fein position unrealistic in the extreme. Maybe redraw the border to make the wee North even more wee and let them march in their sashes and beat their drums till the Apocalypse. Again ,I say thank you
@loneprimate
@loneprimate Жыл бұрын
You underestimate your countrymen. I agree that while Catholics have full equality, the people of the Republic will be satisfied with the status quo and unwilling to do anything to upset an apple cart that's working well enough for the apples on it. But if it comes to a vote, if they're asked, I myself do not doubt that they will rise to the occasion and take on the task of healing the nation. It will be with some trepidation and a clear eye, but they will do it, just like the Germans. Refusing to take in family when it comes knocking? Surely to God that has never, EVER been the Irish way, and I'd be ashamed to be Irish if it is.
@highvolumepls
@highvolumepls Жыл бұрын
Dublin and Monaghan bombings buster, or did we make that up?
@johngreene7911
@johngreene7911 7 ай бұрын
Ireland in its entirety was part of the UK during its most successful era, a coincidence? I don't think so. Ireland was able to supply a massive resource of able men to serve in the British Army and especially the Royal Navy during the Napoleonic and Great Wars . Unfortunately they, along with the general population were taken for granted, and decided to tell the Anglican ruling class that they had enough. This severing of the union has been detrimental to the UK
@DerekTJ
@DerekTJ 7 ай бұрын
Are you including the famine and mass emigration in this most successful period?
@jooseppielleese7156
@jooseppielleese7156 4 ай бұрын
@@DerekTJ He talking about how successful it was for the british and fetile land aswell man power it provided.
@vapoureyes
@vapoureyes 2 жыл бұрын
Would Sinn Fein stay in the EU if Ireland was United because the EU wants a United States of Europe meaning what has been gained, on the other hand if the Nationalist party was in power then they would have a United ireland 🇮🇪 and not replaced by a new so called master.
@frolicwitme
@frolicwitme 2 жыл бұрын
A United Ireland will remain in the EU after unification, look how well brexit is going!!!
@oracle8589
@oracle8589 2 жыл бұрын
@@frolicwitme Brexit is fine. Inflation is hitting most country’s hard, it has nothing to do with Brexit but of course you euro lovers will point at anything bad that happens for now on in the UK as “oh well you see, it’s that Brexit again!!!!”. Nothing has changed, life continues as normal. The apocalypse that you predicted never happened surprise surprise
@frolicwitme
@frolicwitme 2 жыл бұрын
@@oracle8589 I never predicted anything at all. Your brexit fiasco is unfolding as time goes on lol, have to say its getting more and more fun. What is your next big idea to save brexit?
@oracle8589
@oracle8589 2 жыл бұрын
@@frolicwitme Save Brexit? Bro nobody cares anymore!! We’ve all moved on it’s barely spoken about anymore, it’s only the Irish that are still talking about it constantly. They’re obsessed!!!
@frolicwitme
@frolicwitme 2 жыл бұрын
@@oracle8589 what lol, it's the Brits keep going on and on about it lol
@everready2903
@everready2903 2 жыл бұрын
Demographics are only going one way. Democracy in action!
@susannamarker2582
@susannamarker2582 2 жыл бұрын
Demographics will win, not terrorists. The british were right to resist republican violence for so long. Now, the people decide.
@asanulsterman1025
@asanulsterman1025 2 жыл бұрын
Demographics does not predict future voting intentions it's really just a code for... wait another 18 years and maybe we will be a bit better off then.
@mick1406
@mick1406 2 жыл бұрын
Up to a point. No one on the reunification side can tell me what you are going to do with the 35 to 40 % of NI population ( Loyalists) who will NEVER accept a united Ireland? The Troubles showed you what happens when a minority feel undervalued and oppressed. Your solution please ....
@asanulsterman1025
@asanulsterman1025 2 жыл бұрын
@@mick1406 No need to guess, we already know what happened to the unionist population of the irish free state in the 1920s and it's not pretty. My own Granny was burnt out of Dublin and moved to Londonderry. But don't worry, Ulster has been resisting attacks from the rest of ireland (ROI) for thousands of years already.
@mick1406
@mick1406 2 жыл бұрын
@@asanulsterman1025 Proud of you guys!!
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