Peter Parker beats up Kingpin (Spider-Man Comic Dub)

Peter expresses some rage and doesn't pull his punches.
Context: Aunt May is in hospital after being hit by a sniper's bullet that was meant for Peter. Consequently, he pays Kingpin a visit.
Original comic: The Amazing Spiderman (2007) 542
Music:
"The Empty Moons of Jupiter" by DivKid (KZbin Audio library)
"The Rebel" by lemonmusicstudio (Pixabay)
"Voices" by Patrick Patrikios (KZbin Audio library)
#marvel #comicdub #voiceover

[@yumatsukumo1096]

Signs a villain fucked up : batman smiling or Spider-Man not telling jokes

[@trpoihgg]

Yep

[@megaman37456]

Dude if Blacksuit Spidey is eyeballing you without a word or much movement just close your eyes and wait to die.

[@mageeaaron2624]

Pretty much lol

[@ShadowdaHedgie11]

It’s either a sign that you fucked up… Or Peter has laryngitis.

[@JnEricsonx]

@@ShadowdaHedgie11 I understood that reference. Also, there was a time where I think he thought his villains had killed a kid.

[@haydenbennett3547]

There comes a time when the hero needs to send a message to evil; "we have good things worth protecting, take that away and we have things worth killing for"

[@JnEricsonx]

Batman needs to realize that.

[@tobsonasanya4765]

@@JnEricsonx ?

[@supergirl7717]

@@JnEricsonx ?

[@kevdadragonslxyer5300]

@@supergirl7717 talking about Jason todd

[@austinjones9276]

@@JnEricsonx oh 😲

[@briantaylor9285]

It's terrifying when you realize Parker was STILL holding back. 😳

[@checkoutmyplaylistsforente8054]

Spidey's punches can be acurately described as having the force of anti-tank rounds compressed into a fist.

[@Muslim_qui_doute]

let's do some physics since he held a train a plane crashing and a building, a plane that is crashing: it's 80_000 kg and the height where planes fly is around 10km so g = G * Me / (Re + 10)² // Me -> mass of earth | Re -> radius of earth g = 6.67 * 10^-11 * 5,972 × 10^24 / (6371*10^3 + 1000)² // converting from km to meters g = 9.81 N/km so the accual force that the earth or gravity was applying to the plane is p = mg // m -> mass of plane | g -> 9.81 = 784800N so for spiderman to hold that plane he needed to apply 784_800N to the plane to prevent it from crashing lemme remind you, the bite of a T-Rex is 35_000N his punch is stronger than the bite of a God damn T-Rex and thats only when we calculated for the plane we haven't calculated the force he applied to hold a building fun fact: Spider-man has beaten a T-Rex

[@Ciaramae7]

@@Muslim_qui_doute whay about how many people confirmed this dude can one on one fist fight the literally hulk

[@prad0gee432]

@@Ciaramae7 kinda. He can hold his own but he's likely not winning that fight. There's a time where he admits that he's not on the Hulks level, but he's still not a pushover for him.

[@rory8182]

@@Muslim_qui_doute And this maths has the saitama issue We don't know if 20 times a Trex is Spiderman's limit, or him warming up

[@ShadowdaHedgie11]

Today, Kingpin learnt a valuable lesson. Two, in fact. 1. If Spider-Man is being quiet, you fucked up. 2. Spider-Man is pretty much ALWAYS pulling his punches. Otherwise he'd be killing regular crooks left, right, and centre. That's why the Kingpin always thought he could beat Spider-Man in a fight, because Spider-Man is always holding back. Similar to the whole Superman "With every step, an earthquake. With every breath, I could create a hurricane" thing, but less so.

[@rockwellwebb8586]

I agree with that full heartedly

[@TheDetailsMatter]

The thing about Spiderman is, he doesn't look anywhere near as strong as he actually is. In gaming terms, his strength has the "invisible power effect" advantage. Instead of being a beach God rippling with muscles from head to toe, he has spindly little arms and legs and a rather puny torso. it's always a shock to see how much force he can actually bring to bear.

[@ShadowdaHedgie11]

@@TheDetailsMatter He's a lot more muscular than he used to be... and the thing is, while he is VERY strong, that's not the main thing his powers are really based around. They're more based around flexibilty and agility rather than full-out strength, and he can't really match up against some heavy hitters such as Thor and Hulk, although it might be unfair to compare him to guys like that. His strength is definitely superhuman, though. Captain America, who's basically supposed to be at peak human fitness (although I'm pretty sure his strength counts as superhuman) can lift 1,200lbs... or 1.2 tons, whereas Spider-Man can lift 10 tons. This information is from a wiki though, so... yeah. But basically while Spider-Man is really strong, his main thing is agility and his spider-sense. And if he was all bulky with muscles, he wouldn't be as agile. Remember, kids. Radiation: It does a body good.

[@foamfan7593]

If kingpin had to fight hulk...omg

[@ShadowdaHedgie11]

@@foamfan7593 I doubt it would happen. Kingpin isn’t stupid. While he’s been beaten by Spider-Man before, it’s always been a closer fight, due to Peter holding back. And even when not holding back, Peter is nowhere near as strong as Hulk. Kingpin would get DEMOLISHED by Hulk.

[@0axis771]

I love how Peter takes off the Spider-Man suit, saying that the suit represents the ideals Spider-Man represents, so it isn't Spider-Man that is there to kill Kingpin, but Peter Parker.

[@jay_arson5075]

But why the black suit one?

[@GabesEdtiz]

@@jay_arson5075 I guess to be more intimidating?

[@danielwood6833]

So he could send a message when he beat up folk to find May’s killer. But I’m the end it’s still a Spider-Man suit, and he doesn’t want that associated with what he was going to specifically do to Fisk.

[@Kaen880]

@@jay_arson5075 Because it's make him even stronger but he got changed the way he act and look just like in spider man 3 trilogy movie i guess

[@calamityknyte]

@I'm too beautiful Peter had two. The original symbiote version and a fabric version. Anytime he wears the suit after Venom's swinging around it's almost always the fabric version. He wears it when he's done playing around. He doesn't get any special boosts when he wears the fabric one.

[@thomask70]

Pete still gives him to much respect with the Mr Fisk here… I woulda just used “Willie”.

[@madvoicemuffin]

Old habits die hard, I guess

[@ultimatecontagion]

He said in his head he wasn't making jokes so it's implied that he's being real serious

[@thomask70]

@@ultimatecontagion it wouldn’t be a joke really, just disrespectful. I guess it’s how you look at it.

[@JnEricsonx]

@@ultimatecontagion When the joking character stops joking.....you done fucked up.

[@noctisx1830]

@@JnEricsonx The jokes were always a mask for Parker’s feelings this is the real Spider-man.

[@lordgenerias]

Kingpin forgot one of the most important things about Spiderman. When the webhead ain't crackin' jokes at your expense, you have made a *very* big mistake.

[@JnEricsonx]

Same thing with Deadpool. He once went to therapy, and during it told the therapist about a guy who manipulated and used a patient, who wound up killing herself. It was the therapist-who Deadpool then killed. During the whole story, there were no "other Deadpool voices", it was just him. That's how mad Wade Was.

[@lordgenerias]

@@JnEricsonx Always beware the quiet ones, but if the chatty ones become quiet, try not to be the reason.

[@JnEricsonx]

@@lordgenerias Yeah. Few times at one of my old jobs a friend of mine said he'd never seen me that mad. I also hadn't cracked any jokes or sarcastic one liners all day.

[@Supperdude9]

He made Kingpin the joke.

[@ashtonchane6126]

It’s that same feeling when Batman is smiling and laughing, or Superman is not holding back, or Guts completely going bad shit crazy. It has that same vibe.

[@xanderlowe1543]

"I'm not here to kill you... I am." One of Spiderman's best lines. Ever.

[@ruttsuco.804]

Peter didn’t just beat him physically. He tore down everything he had stood for and built. He crushed the very idea of Kingpin

[@DrTolis]

Too bad this whole scene was made irrelevant when Peter and MJ made the deal with Mephisto the very next issue

[@inkchariot6147]

@@DrTolis One More Day never happened, and nobody can tell me otherwise.

[@playerback7722]

Peter remembered

[@Agg1E91]

He defeated the Kingpin in a very "Kingpinian" way. Brutally, but also cruelly and cleverly sadistic. Force the the people to admit the emperor has no clothes, and then sent that "emperor" on his way.

[@covenant05]

@@Agg1E91 King Pin thought his cruelty was his super power. Peter just showed him how easy it is for anyone to pick up that ability. Cruelty is even deadlier wielded by an entity that can over power you in so many ways.

[@veteranimperial718]

The best part about this fight was how anticlimactic it was, Kinping goes through all that trouble only to have his ass handed over on a silver platter.

[@JohnnyDominion]

Kingpin never learns to before this event it wasn't long ago in universe and out that Kingpin got his ass clapped by Daredevil when he pushed the Man Without Fear too far. When I say clapped I mean he got utterly destroyed by DD

[@DoomMomDot]

the fact that Peter had worked out exactly how to kill someone with his webbing, presumably long before this moment, is the best reminder of how dangerous he would be if he let go of his moral compass

[@garytaylor8193]

Real shit i dont think people realize how deadily he could be if he really wanted to kill someone. Like yeah he aint no reed richards or tony stark but he is REALLY damn smart usually way smarter then alot of heroes he hangs around with and he's got the strength to back it

[@hagamapama]

@@garytaylor8193 Peter Parker is a genius in his own right. Not a super genius like Stark, but easily somewhere in the top 10,000 intellects on his planet. What he doesn't have is the kind of top flight education Tony got, because Parker isn't rich like that. But despite that handcap Peter can almost keep up with Tony. Imagine if education was free, what Peter would be capable of.

[@kaiju1281]

@@garytaylor8193 Reed Richards admitted that if Parker had access to the same technologies Richards had he would be just as smart

[@giovannidanesin4193]

@@hagamapama he is probably in the top 10-15 since Hank Pym (who we should remember is the creator of Ultron) said Peter is smarter than him

[@bryanwoods3373]

Yep. It's something mentioned every now and again. Reed Richards tested him once, and Peter is on their level. I think they've said elsewhere that the only reason he's not ranked is because Peter never took that test. When everyone can't figure out a flaw in a design or some solution, Peter is top 5 consults. If anything, Peter might be smarter just because of how effortless his intelligence is.

[@asurasyn]

Spider-Man is the epitome of the idea that the second best at everything is better than the master of one thing. He's not as strong as Hulk or Thor. He's not as inventive as Tony Stark. He's not as quick as Quicksilver. He's not as trained a fighter as Daredevil. He's second best at all of that, which means he's better at everything you're _NOT_ the best at.

[@sibionic]

Spidey is unique in all sorts of ways, not just in relation to others. His speed, strength, agility, spider-sense and equilibrium combine in a fighting style wholly unique in the MU.

[@docblade3270]

One of the few that said that is Wolvie in marvel canibals: "He fought everyone, from Hulk to Fantastic four, and nobody squashed that spider"!

[@Abominatrix650]

Yes. That's why Batman is so pivotal. There's always a way around his opponents because he is second best at everything. Lex Luthor is smarter, Cyborg is a better hacker, Constantine is a better planner and Wonder Woman is a better fighter. But he has other ways around that and that's why he's so cool!

[@bloodyidit4506]

There is one thing, his powers mean that on top of all that, he's stealthy if he wants to be. People in comics when they dealt with spidey before knowing him called him creepy for a reason.

[@tylernelson310]

Im not tryong to undermine your point, its a good point, but he's not second best of he isnt as strong as hulk or thor, thats more like third best you know, good point though

[@Harmonica821]

I love Peter's Goku route of, "I won't kill you for the sake of morality, I want you to live so you can suffer more."

[@kevinsantos5050]

And that part is negotiable as it said if Aunt May died or someone he love dies, be fucking scared cuz I'm sure he ain't no pu s sy like batman hurt someone he loves he will hurt you back Joker got would be dead the Marvel series cuz unlike DC heroes were they represent the ideal heroes with a moral compass so strict the sheer thought of breaking it breaks them or turn them into a tyran Marvel heroes have real personalities and will fu c k you up if you mess with their love one

[@arthurgoes1994]

I though the same when i heard peter's dialogue in this scene, it's very similar to goku in namek, but tbf he only has that mentality against frieza, generally he's thinking " i don't wanna kill you, i just wanna a good fight"

[@diegosotomiranda4107]

​@@arthurgoes1994it's not only he wants a good fight, he gains respect for The opponent and it's not seeking Revenge (similar to Peter, of You don't Mess with his loved ones, he wouldnr kill You, just stop You from hurting and killong others and expect that they learn their lesson knowing theres someone who would put them down of they try something dumb)

[@trpoihgg]

A few thing to keep in mind guys. 1. This is not symbiote spidey. The real deal. 2. In the previous story line before civil war. He gotten his powers enhanced by this Spider god avatar called "the other". Which gave him organic webbing and increased super strength speed and agility. 3. During the aftermath of civil war. He is not only a fugitive of the law and unregistered superhero. His identity is revealed. 4. Every villain and criminal he put away know who he is now. 5. His aunt is in intensive care after being hit with a sniper bullet meant for peter. And kingpin was the one who sent the hit. With all that listed why in the hell did kingpin think he was gonna walkaway from this untouched?

[@chrisgoris3794]

He thought he could beat spider man because he's always holding back. But when blacksuit Spiderman is eyeing you down in silence, that's when you know ya really fucked up.

[@arnoldgreen4278]

@@chrisgoris3794 Wrong

[@chrisgoris3794]

@Arnold Green I'm not wrong lol. Spiderman holds back half the time and tremendously at that. Because in the superior Spiderman saga. When dock ock was fighting Scorpion in Spider-Man body he didn't know how to hold back his power causing him to punch scorpions jaw off.

[@arnoldgreen4278]

@@chrisgoris3794 But it’s just mega stupid. Why does he *ever* struggle with fights. And don’t put it down to “he doesn’t wanna hurt his villains” cause he could just punch that tiny bit harder and knock them out before they hurt themselves or others

[@amisstake8040]

@@arnoldgreen4278 In actuality, fighting to incapacitate rather than kill your opponent is actually MUCH more difficult than it looks. It's similar to trying to get a lvl 1 pokemon down to 1 hp to catch it, but you only have max lvl pokemon without false swipe. It's a fine line to balance holding back enough to not kill your opponent, but not giving yourself so many disadvantages that they're able to beat you, which is why he struggles. And for the "he could just punch them a tiny bit harder", you'd be able to touch an ant and possibly not hurt it, but touch them that tiny bit harder and you might just end up crushing it. Obviously it's just as hard for different reasons for stronger opponents, since if they're strong enough to somewhat hurt you, like a wasp repeatedly stinging you, if you don't take it seriously enough that wasp could keep stinging and eventually kill you, but at the same time you could just swat it with your hand and kill it. Now imagine how hard it would be to knock out that wasp but make sure not to kill it or give it permanent damage

[@scrapfox3695]

Peter: *Doesn't do his usual Spidey routine* Fisk: *becomes uncanny*

[@JnEricsonx]

One thing got driven him to Fisk by this: Peter could go Fist of the North Star on his enemies if he wanted to-whenever. Otto realized this when he punched Scorpion's goddamn JAW off. Also, somewhere.....Logan and Frank: "Holy shit kid."

[@justapassingbycommenterrem5642]

Spiderman is one of those people you ABSOLUTELY do not wanna piss off. His responsibility and moral compass is in essence his limiter and he get overwhelmingly strong with those taken out. One thing about spiderman that makes him dangerous is his sheer will. I'm in the believe that if spiderman ever cross over to the DC Universe he's a perfect candidate for the green ring. You see it time and time again how determined he is at protecting others, turn that determination to a killing one and you have a very deadly anti hero. I'm gonna say this once, If spiderman really REALLY wanted to kill you you'll be dead, one way or another.... Although that scenario will probably never happen because of the nature of his character and comics

[@zaki7583]

@@justapassingbycommenterrem5642 he could also become the world's best assassin with his powers

[@ShadowdaHedgie11]

Peter realised it himself in his early days (albeit possibly a retcon) when he almost killed a criminal by punching them. But yeah, when you have super strength, you have to be careful and hold yourself back… unless you don’t mind killing people, of course.

[@chrisgoris3794]

@Cobalt Yea agreed, and even though he's nowhere near the level of being universal tier doesn't mean he should be taken lightly. He's capable of easily breaking scorpions jaw off if he ever decided to stop holding back against him. Which otto when he stole peters body and became the superior Spiderman he didn't know how to hold back which caused him to punch scorpions jaw off. Further proving how strong and how DEADLY he can truly be. If he was hired as an assassin your not escaping him, he would kill you one way or another. He also took on venom whom was able to take on hulk. (I know this because I had done research on the Spider-Man comics) Obviously hulk was holding back tremendously against venom. Its still impressive nonetheless. I wonder if Spiderman held back against venom? But ones things for sure. You don't wanna get on spidey's dark side.

[@ShadowdaHedgie11]

@@chrisgoris3794 I have heard (and actually seen) the thing about Scorpion, yeah. As for Venom... I think Venom is a case of an enemy who is stronger than Spider-Man, but he's not as smart. Even if Peter wasn't holding back, the symbiote shared his body and mind. Even if Peter was holding back, the symbiote would know how strong it was, and since a lot of Spider-Man's powers were passed onto Venom, who also magnified Peter's powers... it's safe to assume, in my opinion, that Venom is stronger than Spidey, but the symbiote and Eddie Brock (or whoever else is wearing it) is not as smart. Which is fair enough, considering Peter Parker is a genius.

[@godrxys3389]

This is the reason I love Spider-Man so much, because he's got the power to properly screw up criminals but holds back despite all that he's gone through. Pete beating Fisk this badly because of what happened to Aunt May and threatening to cross the line he never has before shows how much he cares for his family and friends, that he's willing to go through hell and back and break his moral code to get some closure because he's already lost Uncle Ben and he's not gonna go through it again. This is why the spidey stuff in Civil War is my favourite Spidey story, it fleshes out what Peter can do once truly provoked. Sorry for the long read lol

[@chrisgoris3794]

Don't be sorry. I enjoyed reading this. And I 100% agree with you. And yeah it does symbolize how much he holds back. I'm glad I'm not the only one who likes the civil war story lol.

[@thullraven1]

Maybe it's because I'm Italian, but I would have left a more permanent reminder to show him how serious I was. I would have removed one of his eyes or a finger or two. At the very least, I would have broken one of his arms.

[@godrxys3389]

@@thullraven1 Pete still has a moral code at the end of the day, disfigurement doesn't really seem like something he'd do unless he was 100% influenced by the symbiote

[@thullraven1]

@@godrxys3389 The symbiote would have killed him without hesitation or mercy. As for Pete, I get it. Pete also isn't Italian and didn't grow up on the streets of Newark either. If he did, he would have had more of an edge. To do what I would have done would have sent a more concrete message and REALLY showed Kingpin and everyone else there that he would have the capability to carry out the kill if he chose to do it. My moral compass would be just fine, as I wouldn't have killed him. I would have severely injured him like he had Aunt May injured and clinging for life.

[@godrxys3389]

@@thullraven1 That's fair, I'm not Italian so I wouldn't know the half of it

[@SammyHanson2005]

This Black Suit design actually looks pretty intimidating

[@garytaylor8193]

Ironically enough this isnt the symbiote but a black suit that black cat made for him because she said he looks good in it

[@N.I.A23]

​@@garytaylor8193 he does look good in it lol

[@ShUrIkEn2558]

@@N.I.A23 Nah fr imagine he's stop pulling his punches with a symbiote💀💀

[@ExeErdna]

It's the "not so friendly neighborhood" Spider-Man suit

[@marcjustinpascasio9955]

@@ExeErdna I hate this issue for making me buy 3 separate black costume spider man and emptying my wallet. The retro marvel legends is probably the closest resemblance to the suit in this issue.

[@moisty5478]

I love moments like this. it's where everyone gets that wake up call for spiderman. sure they all hate him for putting them away, but NOW they fear him. they know that with a flick of his wrist he can kill all of them and horrendous ways. that's if he's merciful. the FEW times we see him go all out and not hold anything back are the most terrifying moments in these comics. because it says 'Usually when I punch you hard enough to send you to dreamland, it's the force you use when you lift a fork. if I used a real punch, there would only be red mist.

[@chrisgoris3794]

When spider man stopped holding back and beat down on kingpin I actually got scared for him. He just better be grateful Miles Morales wasn't his opponent.

[@scrapfox3695]

Jesus Christ, Spidey

[@godking]

@@chrisgoris3794 He was still holding back.

[@Equinox2149]

@@godking Yeah at this point he could lift 25 ton under normal conditions one full powered hit would splatter you across the room.

[@nurse425]

Yea, it's Peter basically telling everyone in that room: "I could kill all of you in this room right now, EASILY, and you'd never even TOUCH me"!

[@ermacmacro7136]

When Spidey's quiet FUCKING. RUN!

[@kenthefele113]

I can’t tell what’s scarier. A laughing Batman or a serious Spider-Man.

[@thescottishkarter6151]

Laughing Batman. Always. Because that mwans that Joker has won. Serious Spidey just means he's angry.

[@H.K.5]

@@thescottishkarter6151 That doesn’t mean Batman himself is scarier. Spider-Man is a superhuman being and usually holds back against normal humans.

[@pazzettossaurorex2974]

@@thescottishkarter6151 Serious Spidey just means he's angry? Dude... an angry Spidey means that you are fucked up. He always hold himself back because he knows what he's capable of with all his power and he doesn't want to kill his enemies... but when he decide to not hold back and gets really serious, you know things are going to get bloody and brutal.

[@thescottishkarter6151]

@@pazzettossaurorex2974 and yet there is The Batman Who Laughs. Because he finally gets what the Joker meant all these long years. In a fight between serios Spidey and Bat who Laughs... I honestly feel that the Bat is the scarier option.

[@WilliamGarrow]

​@@thescottishkarter6151 Batman has bad writing.

[@masonbateman7490]

This is a lesson to everyone. All it takes in life is the slightest nudge in the wrong direction to turn a gentle soul into a ruthless monster.

[@owainwilliams12]

I'd like to imagine an ending to this where after Peter leaves Fisk in secret uses his money to hire the best doctors around to work on saving May so he doesn't go through that again.

[@Madgearz]

*This is now canon.* Can't convince me otherwise. May gets an anonymous donor to cover all her medical bills.

[@jonathancristal]

Is the best what fisk can do because if not,he is going to suffer the worst. XD

[@umapessoa240]

Didn’t read the comic, but someone told me that’s literally what happens

[@chrisgoris3794]

I like how Spiderman despite all his anger managed to keep his composure in the fight.

[@waffles5433]

It’s funny he said “definitely” because people come back in comics all the time

[@invisanon]

"I'll kill you so hard your counterpart in another universe would drop dead."-Spiderman probably

[@chapacoka]

Except Uncle Ben who exists solely to die.

[@waffles5433]

@@chapacoka Yeah Uncle Ben, Gwen Stacey, and his parents are the only ones that tend to stay dead

[@danielramsey6141]

Regular people and those prisoners are just nameless body bags. If they have no name, their more than likely dead.

[@obsidiandragon1385]

@@chapacoka there is at least one universe where peter dies and ben becomes spiderman

[@master-of-many-fandoms2020]

Man, Kingpin’s monologue about the criminals that surround him and Peter and how Peter’s worldview has only brought him nothing but suffering and loneliness is really something extraordinary.

[@meruem1920]

Should be in a movie

[@Sith35864]

I don't remember where I heard it, but summed up as... When Peter wins, Spider Man loses. When Spidey wins, Peter loses.

[@carloscatarino7890]

When Spider-Man drops all his jokes and stops holding back, that's the man you should fear.

[@MarquisdeSuave]

According to canon, Parker has Class 10 level strength which means he can lift 10 tons with great effort. Its not nearly at Hulk levels but still around 100 times the strength of a normal human being of the same size, weight and age. Fisk is HUGE and he is strong and he can fight but he's still a normal human being who AT BEST could deadlift 600 lbs under great strain. Fisk can hold his ground against Daredevil or Punisher but he never had a chance against Parker.

[@ATalesTruth-]

Spider-Man’s actual limit is above 10 tons At his most adrenaline exertion of strength he can lift about 100-200 tons at most in his prime That is about as heavy as a ferris wheel The idea is peter when he first started out as Spider-Man had the same physique of the nerd who has no muscle mass or worked out even when he got the powers of a spider that his limit was 10 tons when he first started out at 15 Given he hasn’t trained his body yet or fully developed But as he grown up and has been doing Spider-Man stuff for years his strength grew, like it’s said he became a 25 ton lifter within the same year as he increased from 10 to 25 by working out or doing his thing as Spider-Man and it wasn’t till he was in his mid twenties did he start lifting (AT MAX)about 100-200 tons And this makes sense given if in a year he can increase his strength from 10 to 25 that’s 15 tons increase in just one year being 15 starting out as a 10 toner to 25 in a year Assuming he increases his max strength by working out and growing into and adult And physical people are at their prime in their mid twenties anyway so So by the time he is 25 he is in his physical prime And 10 ton plus 15 tons every year for 10 years His max would be about 150-170 tons And it likely stop their given he is at his physical prime But that kinda show’s Spider-Man shouldn’t be underestimated in any fight

[@paulsmart4672]

Just knocking Fisk around with little slaps. Pure contempt for an opponent nowhere near strong enough to threaten him.

[@spiderboi_29]

That scene just proves how brutal Spider-Man could be if he was a villain

[@calebstephens6059]

And this is without the symbiote imagine if he had it at this moment.

[@kerravon4159]

He didn't need it, he was *still* holding back. If he wanted to he could have literally ripped Fisk limb from limb as easy as a child pulling the arms and legs off a doll.

[@thelegenda8462]

he's always holding back even when in anger. shows how a good person deep inside peter is.

[@lucario774pika]

If he had the symbiote, Fisk would be a red stain.

[@ShermanYeo]

@@lucario774pika amen, he will be a bloodied and gruesome corpse that will give anyone a trauma.

[@lordrath9674]

The cool thing here, is the reason why he is so quiet at first. Peter said it before, in many incarnations, that his witty banter and joking comes from nervousness, and fear during battle. But here and now, he has no jokes. No comebacks, no clever answers. Because he has no fear. Just sheer bloody anger

[@andrewames247]

"There are 3 things all wise men fear; a night with no moon, a sea in storm, and the rage of a gentle man!" THIS is what happens when you push a good man to and past his limits!

[@ltrain7715]

I really like how the MCU showed a fraction of this in NWH when Peter just beat the hell out of the goblin and almost killed him

[@4UST1N]

Technically NWH is the movie adaptation of one more day, but heavily modified. I still believe they will adapt this scene to the movies, specifically when he gets the black suit.

[@tonybippitykaye]

Ngl, never thought of Tom Holland as an angry Spidey, but seeing him beat the shit out of Goblin while Goblin was laughing was pretty cathartic.

[@cooldemon5545]

This kinda reminds me of something I heard years ago. 'Hurt me, and you're gonna need crutches. Hurt my friends, and you're gonna need an ambulance Hurt my family,, and I'm gonna need a shovel.' I don't think that's how the saying went exactly, but close enough.

[@gp-1542]

I saw a panel somewhere where a villain (for got his name) basically was fighting Parker but Parker didn’t talk or joke and he legitimately got scared and turned himself in But Parker just had a cold

[@TheGreatBackUpVIDEOS]

Honestly though, that's a pretty accurate depiction of what would happen if you were fighting a man hundreds of times stronger than any human could hope to be and you didn't know what he intended to do with all that strength. Are you thinking of the group Headmen?

[@gp-1542]

@@TheGreatBackUpVIDEOS idk but that’s all I remembered really

[@thatboyakira4202]

laryngitis to be precise.

[@tonybippitykaye]

I’m pretty sure that was Mysterio who turned himself in. There were three other villains mocking him for not quipping and all Mysterio could do was go “oh no…” in fear

[@farizr.batarai8271]

​@@tonybippitykaye im pretty sure its shocker who turned himself in

[@MrRonald327]

Spider-Man needs more moments like these.

[@10RexTheWolf01]

This gives me the same impact from Monster University where before they started the final games Johnny was like "After you lose no one will even remember you" and Mike replied "Yeah but after you lose no one will let you forget it".

[@lurker8593]

Peter Parker is a good man, and all good men care about one thing- hold _one thing_ as truly sacred. That thing is their family. Hurt a good mans family and "good" is not what you will remember them for. After all... *The devil runs when a good man goes to war.*

[@Realkeepa]

no good man do war

[@atharvadeshpande6907]

The quote is actually Demons Run when a Good Man Goes to War.

[@Realkeepa]

@@atharvadeshpande6907 😑

[@levonpoe]

I think that's from Doctor Who

[@JnEricsonx]

@@levonpoe Yup!

[@davidtrainor9569]

I really love this moment, Fisk really needs the mystique taken from him every once in a while. In the end he's a normal man with an manageable giantism condition, any of the superheroes he deals with could him at whim if they wanted.

[@magne7771]

Oh my god he's a make-a-wish villain!

[@tylernelson310]

His exact powers are that he is like 100% muscle, so he is strong, but not spiderman strong apparently

[@DarkInception]

@@tylernelson310 Correct, he’s mainly muscle mass. Despite his obese appearance. Strong enough that he’s taken on Captain America, Falcon, Daredevil etc. Not suggesting he can physically beat them, but he can almost hang with them on occasion. Which is pretty impressive. Of course, Spider-Man scales far above them physically lol

[@Ozzy_2014]

@@DarkInception he manhanlded Daredevil but then Murdock was at his lowest point and suicidal or half way there. But spider man has super strength. Never mind superhuman refelexes, spider sense, ability to walk on walls. Though I never seen Peter have organic webbing except with the symbiote. That is new. Fisk is powerful financially, politically but say if he crossed paths with woverine or Dead pool for example, he won't survive one on one without some kind of help. Be that magic, or tech. Green Goblin should be able to kill him. And could.

[@TheDetailsMatter]

5:40. Peter threatens to fill Fisk's lungs with webbing by pouring it down his esophagus. I kinda wish you had used the word "windpipe" instead of what was written, because that would fix the one glaring error in this piece: The esophagus doesn't lead to the lungs, but to the stomach. The human airway is the trachea, generally called "the windpipe." What Peter is mistakenly threatening is to give Fisk a bellyful of his webbing.

[@madvoicemuffin]

Good point, athough I always try to stay true to the original source unless I misread something :D

[@madvoicemuffin]

Then again, maybe Peter just wants to keep the villains guessing 🤔😂

[@storefront6070]

Won't he just choke on it

[@EtherealRoninERProductions]

Is it oesophagus or is that American spelling, just curious?

[@newfoundwisdom8532]

I mean said webbing would likely deal up his esophagus and would forcibly close it off. And it's meant to withstand a lot. So I doubt anything like the stomach acid would do much to dissolve it all unless Fisk suffers reflux. Would be moreorless denying his ability to eat or drink. Starve him out and make him wish for death. Glaring error aside this could also have been a way to kill Fisk. It just would have taken a lot longer.

[@playerback7722]

Kingpin was literally asking for that.

[@chrisgoris3794]

And Spidey basically responded with a simple sentence and I quote...... "I'm gonna put some dirt in your eye"

[@lazerstudios9982]

This gives me Daredevil season 3 vibes, and I love it

[@leighm9986]

Wouldn't be surprised if they took notes from this for season 3

[@rbwtn]

“THIS CITY REJECTED YOU, IT BEAT YOU. IIIIIIII BEATTTTT YOUUUUU “ towards the last part type of energy

[@jasminedragon3315]

It’s super satisfying to see Peter let loose doesn’t happen often but when it does, it’s always personal

[@storefront6070]

Spider man usually uses 10% of his power when fighting but now he's using 15% of his power

[@prawiraagung4011]

use 69% when

[@storefront6070]

@@prawiraagung4011 he beat up hulk

[@storefront6070]

I'd say about 70%

[@chrisgoris3794]

@Storefront Hulk is still WAY stronger tho.

[@samuelkohi2534]

Spiderman: I only used 1% of my power.

[@naelmohammed9551]

When a nice man gets angry, the devil shivers.

[@Ivan-fp8eu]

He put dirt in Wilson Fisk’s eyes

[@sniper9840]

"a chump is someone who trusts the government" -kingpin

[@LabTech41]

There are three things all wise men fear: a night with no moon, the sea in a storm, and the anger of a gentle man.

[@aliman_6128]

Spiderman has lifted hundereds of tons, and even taken a blast from a weapon thats ONLY purpose was to take down the hulk. And walked away with just a few broken ribs and bruises. Just imagine alll of his power all of the speed and strength condensed into a fist.... Even in this comic peter was holding back...way back... Thats terrifying and so fucking awesome

[@JoelleCasanof]

this is the definition of "f around and find out"

[@aurorablaize]

I have always loved this. It shows that for all of his jovial, wisecracking attitude, when Spider-Man is NOT cracking jokes and is pissed off instead, it's downright terrifying.

[@inkchariot6147]

When Spider-Man is silent, that just means he's thinking of ways to bring you as close to the brink of death as possible, but allowing you to just barely survive.

[@aserkarim9154]

As once said "nothing is more dangerous than a man who has nothing left to lose"

[@teemusid]

Or as Frank Miller wrote in the Daredevil "Born Again " arc,: A man without hope, is a man without fear.

[@kenthil]

One of the baddest ass Peter Parker moments in the comics. Hands down.

[@chargerman440]

This just goes to show you that the heroes in comics don’t protect their loved ones. The loved ones protect the villains in the stories from the hero. Because if a villain takes away that love, there’s nothing to stop the hero from destroying them.

[@DreamingYokai]

The fact that he knows exactly how long it would take frightens me

[@connorplays6263]

I love how the inmates just did nothing but watch because they were too scared

[@ashtonchane6126]

Or impressed. Maybe both.

[@bthsr7113]

"When you find that one person who connects you to the world, you become someone different. Someone better. When that person is taken from you, what do you become then?" The light in Young Justice considered attacking the family of heroes to be the nuclear option. For all of Fisk's tactical and strategic skill... he made a classic mistake. One that is only survived by underestimating a character's humanity and compassion. If you push a hero over the edge, you're likely their first victim.

[@EternalRoman]

Reminds me of NOWHERE HOME Andrew Garfield's Spidey talking about him stopped pulling his punches, which coincidentally the comic where Spidey revealed his face to the public, Peter was drawn with Garfield's likeness. Can't wait for another Andrew Garfield Spidey film.

[@diakreesedeets7970]

Do more voiceovers, you’re incredible!

[@madvoicemuffin]

It warms my heart to hear that! Also I have some areas of voice over I want to get better at based on the feedback I've gotten, and will be trying to improve on those in the future dubs that I'm definitely going to make :D

[@KumaoftheForest]

I would love to hear “Kraven’s last Hunt” from you

[@madvoicemuffin]

@@KumaoftheForest I'll definitely check that one out, and see if I am able to make something out of it :D

[@thedman1754]

@@madvoicemuffin If i could give a bit more advice, it would be to put some real feeling into your voiceovers. Like, right now, they sound too calm, but that can be easily fixed. Hope this helps!

[@edwardbo4666]

@@madvoicemuffin sorry, but the guy was wrong, your average, except for your Peter voice, it's terrible, the delivery especially.

[@whupps]

Great voiceover of a really good comic!

[@madvoicemuffin]

Many thanks!

[@Temujin1991]

There are three things all wise men fear: the sea in storm, a night with no moon, and the anger of a gentle man

[@JnEricsonx]

Because I won NYCC tickets a few years ago, a friend of mine got to meet the source of that quote cause he loves the author. That and we both got free selfies with Mark Hamill. It was a good weekend.

[@dexter27ll6]

The moment where Spider Man became a mix of Batman and Punisher

[@slickchick5811]

Sigh. We need this version of Peter back.

[@darkwar232100]

Kingpin: Talk confidently (Getting punched hard by Spider-man) Kingpin: Talk again with confident (Getting beaten down hard by Spidy and Peter again) Kingpin: Talk… (You know the rest. Lol)

[@lloydmorman1979]

The moments that you as bad guy fucked up, 1. Batman smiles. 2. Spider Man goes quiet & there’s no jokes!

[@paulsmart4672]

I love the "Spiderman quits fucking around and and oh boy you fucked up." moments.

[@sofa_king_kool]

4:42 Bragging about your super powers, eh? Great, real responsible, sure Ben's proud...

[@dalelerette206]

It is really good to see how much Spider-Man holds back. He even unmasked himself. Then he decimated the Kingpin nine-fold and left him with only 10% left, that last vestige of life in pure humiliation.

[@kasper7574]

I mean if he really wanted to he could punch a hole through kingpin's chest... or just break his neck with a single blow to the head...

[@dalelerette206]

@@kasper7574 Peter was showing us the difference between weak (not strong enough) and meek (strong enough but holding back). With great power comes great responsibility.

[@donlucio03]

Kingpin took the longest way to saying "see ya, chump"

[@damotoneko1500]

Sucks how this was all another plot for the writers to split him and Mary Jane up.

[@trpoihgg]

Just like the Goblin, Ock, and carnage. Kingpin definitely deserves to get axed. However if Peter ever crossed that line he would be no different than the people he put away. He would have proven Jameson right about him being a murderer and a menace. He would no longer be your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man we know and love. Would just be a dark souless killing machine and shell of the good man he once was. The fact he hasn't went on the path like punisher, wolverine, and even batman shows how much better morally he is than those guys. Those guys are lost causes that will never know what peace and humanity feels like again. They are lost in a pool of darkness. Peter always had this light in this dark world. Without the light there would be no hope for humanity. That is why he is my favourite hero. He never fully loses himself in the darkness

[@chrisgoris3794]

Who do you think deserved to die more than the other though between The Goblin, Ock, Carnage, or Kingpin? Who deserved death the most.

[@hagamapama]

I disagree. This is the difference between Spiderman and a character like Batman. Sometimees good people have to solve the problem posed by an enemy so that it can't come back. Spiderman gets that. Batman is too afraid of himself. I honestly think that Spidey could kill if he want to, and come back from the abyss easily. His soul isn't tarnished by the level of hatred Batman struggles with. Batman doesn't kill for fear of losing control but I don't think Spidey has the same hangups so it's just not the issue for him that it is for Batman.

[@JnEricsonx]

Jameson tried to shoot Goblin because he was tired of seeing the effect Goblin had on Spiderman.

[@JnEricsonx]

@@hagamapama See also the last ep of Angel.

[@gregrowe1168]

I don’t think Peter would ever become like injustice Superman but nobody thought that would happen either. It all started with one villain killing somebody very close to them. Superman killed a villain who vey much deserved to die in Joker but it just couldn’t be contained after that.

[@thecrimsondragon2379]

All these years. He was holding back.

[@JnEricsonx]

Otto realized this and he was like "HOLY SHIT".

[@Nam3less2U]

Ofc

[@infinitecontent8001]

When Spider-Man stops cracking jokes, he's about to put someone in a body cast and shorten their life span... Ask the Sinister Six.

[@mykal145]

That was the most badass thing I've ever seen or heard Peter do and say

[@thelockedemon9533]

This is the moment where you see what hero can do if you decide to screw them, they will strike back, Harder and Deadlier. No matter the odds, whoever stands in the way, or the obstacles in the way, they'll get there revenge through any means necessary. On that day, every villian would start praying to every celestial being before death comes knocking down their wall.

[@jafeir]

The fact that Kingpin gave a whole speech about how foolish and outmatched Spider-Man is against someone like him is just showing that the REAL issue here is actually Kingpin's arrogance. That he actually believes his own hype, he honestly thinks he's as untouchable as he says he is, and that he truly thinks he can take Spider-Man in a straight fight because _he's that strong._ All Spider-Man had to do was remind him that _he has superpowers and Kingpin doesn't_ to make him realize that he's NEVER been strong enough to take on Spider-Man. Spider-Man is just that good of a person _to never use his full strength_ . I can only imagine how crushing the realization was that Kingpin was NEVER going to win like he THOUGHT he would.

[@billcox8870]

On that day Mr Fisk experienced the fury of a good man.

[@bgt2848]

There was something deeply satisfying of watching Wilson Fisk Realizing that despite being physically strong he’s still just human and Spider-Man has always held back

[@batbullet3315]

I love scenes like this because it shows how much Spider-Man has been holding back all these years he could have killed any number of villains anytime he wanted with relative ease but he chooses not to and because of all of his jokes and bluster they underestimate him they look at him as a joke but every once in awhile he gets serious and shows them just how powerful he really is

[@Michael-kd1ho]

Here's the thing - Fisk is about as peak human asyou can get. He is huge, but it's almost all muscle, a behemoth of a man, and a trained martial artist of a very high level. He has stood toe to toe with several enhanced, including Cap, and more than held his own. Angry Spidey is scary, shows just how much he really holds back - even now. He could have killed Fisk in less than 3 seconds, but he keeps the beating going.

[@outermarker5801]

Haven't read a comic since my teens, a loooooooooong time ago. Had no idea SM had gotten this dark, and the writing is excellent.

[@noelmejias552]

Holy shit. Not only did Spidey beat Kingpin with his bare hands, he beat him with his words.

[@alistorblueandangelgreendu2316]

God dam 😰Peter park is fucking with him here he’s means business he did with just his fits and no webbing 😱dam that’s just dark could you imagine if Marvel did a dark Spider-Man like this shit 😰

[@robertharrison1058]

Yep this is what the black suit was always unlocking and why peter always feared wearing venom again probably why he dressed as through he'd got venom back here in this story when it was just black clothes to look like the venom symbiote had returned parker showing he can be sneaky and deceptive as the villains he fights when he needs to be.

[@Lord_TigerMan]

Maybe in MCU Spider-Man 4 if they adapt the black suit in it. If not, we know it’s coming in the future. Also, he did tap into his darkness in NWH and nearly killed Green Goblin.

[@ThePlastikChair]

@@robertharrison1058 well this is just a cloth version of the black suit made by black cat, not the symbiote suit. peter's pissed off because kingpin shot aunt may.

[@ez-8238]

Spiderman as the real badass he really is.

[@BaconNuke]

I know at some point Peter knocked out Hulk in a single punch.. dunno when it happened but I'd so wanna know the reactions of his rogues gallery if they ever found out he was capable of that

[@jasengriffin485]

About damn time!! It used to piss me off when writers would make it seem like Kingpin could go one on one with Spider Man 😂😂😂. What a joke. Finally they show Kingpin doesn’t have a snowball chance in a hell against Spidey!

[@eliandervalderen5849]

I just realized something. When Peter told Fisk to pray as he left he probably did. And his prayers were answered maybe not by the one above all but someone definitely answered them. That's why the next thing we know with this though is there offering Peter a chance to undo the wounding of his aunt so that she can live at the cost of his marriage.

[@gilgameshthetreasurehunter2750]

Though I can't imagine Aunt May is too thrilled to be saved by Mephisto

[@Tetsujinhanmaa]

Everybody gangster til Spiderman stops joking.

[@michaeltwigg6376]

And this is why I always say "You Do Not Fuck With Spider-man"

[@WakkasLove]

Incredible narration and editing love this whole thing

[@nekonomicon2983]

Tell me... when ever does targeting someone's loved one ever work? You'd think Kingpin would be smart enough to realize that.

[@yetanotherwannabeyt14]

I love it when get to see Peter be badass! It's so cool to see him take off his costume to fight him mono e mono

[@Tywil714]

Punisher would be proud of this version of peter.

[@chrisgoris3794]

Agreed.

[@thereccher8746]

'See ya around red.'

[@ricwatt]

Finally after all these years ! Peter gives Fisk the ass kicking he deserves !

[@JYDY-if5rf]

kingpin should be rivals with princess morbucks

[@dar6gh]

kingpin sounds like homer

[@Albeare]

Thank you for posting this! I collected Spiderman comics 20+ years ago. You have done great job in producing this video.

[@CaptainFALKEN]

Epic voice over. And the sound effects. Great work

[@robertnewell4054]

I’ve been reading SpiderMan since 1968. This … was… is .. profoundly excellent!! Браво🙏🏽!!