Star Trek Discovery: Red-shirting men. No straight men allowed.

[@CallMeChato]

Make sure you stay to the end. 😅

[@alexandermckay8594]

That was nice seeing Rick at the end. Hopefully everyone is doing well. Seeing that clip I really missed Prisoners of Gravity. I'd love to hear what the actual authors think about all this. DC Fontana would be having a fit, I'm sure.

[@007Thanos007]

BELTALOWDA! Bossmang Chato, 'im da truthtella!

[@RantTheRetort]

If Discovery wanted to be bold, they would do one of the following: Tell a good story or Write good characters. But well, every corporation needs tax write offs I guess.

[@Ootgreet1]

Kudos, Chato! This was a "brave and stunning" (hee hee) synopsis of the suck that is modern Trek. You're funny as hell.

[@HarosOfStyx]

Things with that crap from TOS have improved?! Seriously now?! How exactly are those good things?!

[@grimdolo918]

The Expanse: Strong female characters. Strong male characters. Strong female and male characters working together without diminishing either. Too few writers can pull this off anymore.

[@n.l.4626]

They would have to actively try first.

[@steppahouse]

True, and if you know anything about the politics of the two men that wrote those books, makes STD's angle even more insidious.

[@val_nightlily]

@@n.l.4626 Amen. The real story they're telling is that women can do anything men can do, e.g., running a starship, as long as the men are weak and incompetent.

[@Nyet-Zdyes]

It's not that we don't HAVE writers who can pull it off... It's that they DELIBERATELY CHOOSE writers who will push... THE MESSAGE. Writer... submits script with strong male character... Studio exec: "You've got a strong male in here. We can't have that. He'll make the women look bad..." Writer: "But, it's *got* strong women! Exec: "Not strong enough!" Writer: "I *can't* make them any stronger! They're *already* stronger than god! Exec: "Yeah, I know." Writer: "So... how can I...?" Exec: "Easy. Make all the men pathetic stupid useless losers."

[@adams303]

I pointed this out to the writers of the expanse, and how the Expanse wasn’t woke. They blocked me On Twitter because of this. They aren’t so good as you think.

[@whatever1618]

"Discovery is an anti male revenge fantasy show" Nailed it.

[@Dr_Mauser]

And that doesn't even make it special or unique these days.

[@DocMicrowave]

@@Dr_Mauser Indeed. I think Batwoman might have been a little worse.

[@sometimesfriendly9839]

I watched the first episode or two. Stereotyped white male fleet commander showed up to the battle and I knew he was going to be dead soon. After a minute I thought they might surprise me and let him live, but he died by the stupidest thing I've seen in Trek. A Klingon spacefaring ship designed with a Roman Empire era ram.

[@DocMicrowave]

@@sometimesfriendly9839 I made it a bit further. Episode 4 of the first season before calling it quits. But I feel you.

[@obyone878]

Lmao. Several male heroes and main characters, and it's still not enough for you. Gotta love snowflakes.

[@tyramasters-heinrichs921]

Thank you for the smile. As a woman who writes Science Fiction, I hate STD. What worries me is that the poor writing of the Agenda Education Television (can't call it entertainment) is lowering standards. Take care and keep the comments and break downs coming. Thank you, Call me Chato (and I loved the Expanse). Still hopeful in Manitoba, Canada

[@oldgoat142]

Spot-on statement. I must remember AET! As a writer myself and an old-school, very flawed male of the human race, (which seems to be a highly endangered species), it greatly disappoints me when I look around the landscape and see nothing but hopeless drivel, endless box-punching and pushing of "The Message," and deliberate legacy franchise destruction. With extremely rare exceptions such as the inaugural season of The Expanse, I don't watch anything "modern." Not worth my time.

[@oldgoat142]

AET. I must remember that!! I gave you credit for it in my own comment. Thank you and as a writer myself, I wish you nothing but bona fortuna with your writings.

[@Spacegryphon]

Well if you're a woman and don't like STD... you must have internalized institutional misogyny and must be rescued by a brave white male 🤡

[@rbu2136]

More like Agenda Indoctrination Television.

[@oldgoat142]

@@rbu2136 Yeah, that'll work.

[@cainemarko5021]

"The progressive agenda is not to sit back and enjoy hard-fought victories and shore up weak positions. It's about advancing a scorched earth policy to achieve micro-societal adjustments" Thank you for that quote. That could not have been better said.

[@guillermoelnino]

that's best case scenario. worst case of what they want is much much more sinister.

[@classreductionist]

You gotta use the proper terms. Progressives are not Liberals. Liberals are Republicans with rainbows. Progressives are socialists who want healthcare.

[@cmonkey63]

Even if I wasn't an ageing Trekkie, this is perhaps the finest video you've ever done. And kudos for bringing up The Expanse, which might be this generation's version of the original Star Trek, which I watched as a kid at 7am before my parents woke up, sitting 2 feet away from the colour tv with the volume on low.

[@earlsmith7428]

Got William Shatner's autograph last October. Was in the presence of the "Shat" for thirty glory seconds. He even spoke to me. "How would you like me to sign that?" All I knew is that he was the "Shat," and I was the "non-Shat." At 90, he could still get up and talk to people. Hope all of you get that experience. It will change your life.

[@steppahouse]

My William Shatner was the author Peter F Hamilton. Had lunch and brews with him for a couple of hours, just one on one albeit in the very crowded atrium at dragoncon. It was amazing for me.

[@earlsmith7428]

@@steppahouse Glad you had that time with Mr. Hamilton, but I'm afraid my "glorious thirty seconds" with the "Shat" probably doesn't quite equal with your experience. Bless you.

[@steppahouse]

@@earlsmith7428 It absolutely does if you're a Bill Shatner fan!

[@DivergentDroid]

If you haven't yet, read every TekWar book and watch every TekWar made for tv movies. You can download them all free on KZbin. It was GOOD though now a little dated. They could remake it today with great CGI and it would rock. They could re-make the 1995 first person shooter video game and go where no TekLord has gone before because the video game really sucked. Horrible graphics, stupid repetitive story and no functionality compared to todays giants like Skyrim, Fallout or FarCry. This game would be the TekWar we dreamed of. I know what it's like to stand in line to meet Shatner, I did it in the 80's at a Comicon in New Orleans. The TekWar universe has tons of potential, I do hope they don't let it die.

[@SpideyVids]

Careful - shat is the past tense of shit. 😁

[@RockosdogSpunky]

Glad you brought up The Expanse. Its a great example of a show that organically has a diverse cast and the show doesn't beat you over the head about how diverse it is. Seasons 4-6 weren't as good as seasons 1-3 but overall its a pretty good show.

[@reman81]

the first 3 seasons were brilliant.. the last ones were a woke disaster.. boring.. uninspired, focused on the diverse family of Naomi and her manbun ex, and the antics of their privileged murdering mommy-boy son... dumpster fire trash i could barely finish watching.. what a waste of a show that was..

[@Henry-jp3mc]

Amazon killed it unfortunately

[@WhitefoxSpace]

I especially loved how an Indian Martian is in love with Cowboy culture because fuck it, in 500 years who knows what people will latch on to for identity. Edit: it's because his area of Mars was originally settled by Texans, thanks commenters

[@cmonkey63]

Before I watched it, I didn't realise I was Amos Barton. Or at least wanted to be. Which is kind of the whole point of storytelling, isn't it? To identify with the characters.

[@TheVFXbyArt]

Yeah! Tough guy Amos admitted to wearing pumps! 🤣

[@BishopWalters12]

I watched the first 2 seasons of Discovery, and it was like a sledgehammer to the face. I agree with you, it's bad enough this heavy handed agenda is happening but what really gets on my nerves is that these people try to act like Discovery is so progressive and just like the older shows. Have the guts and just acknowledge what you're doing with these shows but don't bulls@@@ us.

[@johns9652]

I was a fan of The Walking Dead at the time, it wasn't completely dead yet at the time, just on life support. When I heard rumors that Martin-Greene was leaving to do a new Star Trek project, I was actually excited. I liked her on TWD, and I hadn't seen any good Trek in ages. Then TWD killed off Sasha in what I thought was a super lame way, and I found out the new Trek was behind a pay wall. I was not willing to pay for another streaming service, and by the time episodes came out on Prime or something else I was already paying for, I had heard how bad it was. So, like the old 7-Up commercial, "Never had it, never will".

[@evilchaperone]

The end of the second season battle scenes were some of the best sci-fi ever created. Pike was a bad ass.

[@rockerboyrage1609]

I never bothered after season 2. I did like the new Pike though.

[@BishopWalters12]

@@rockerboyrage1609 Same here, Pike is the only reason why I finished season 2.

[@Girthon1]

@@rockerboyrage1609 Yeah, the first fwo seasons weren't bad. But season 3 was absolutely unwatchable.

[@robertnitsche8410]

The Expanse is the gold standard for how to do modern science fiction right. They portrayed strong female characters that drove the story and weren't window dressing. Hell, they took Drummer, a minor character in the books, and turned her into one of the most baddass female characters in the history of sci-fi television, in no small part thanks to Cara Gee's amazing performance. In the books, Holden was my favorite character. Now, it's Drummer. That's how it's done.

[@olliefoxx7165]

I'm.dine with the forced wokeness and guurl power crap. It's always about "strong empowered" females while emasculating men. It's in every series, every episode, no matter what the show is or what it's about. I feel like our culture has dropped 30 IQ points in the last 10 years. Everything us just garbage.

[@williampearson6299]

issue is that one is on Netflix - which is accessible and the other is on Amazon which people have but mostly for deliveries.

[@robc9662]

I have not seen the last season but It is a good show. It told a good story that focused on the story and not a message. I did not even realize who was of what race, gender or sexuality. It did not matter. It was a good story and normalized all these things. It did not denigrate any group to make another look better.

[@DanielWijk]

Good show. Still think Babylon 5 did it better :-)

[@RealengoPrimordialDemon]

@@DanielWijk in your dreams.

[@misternobody1385]

I want to see a red-shirt fighting a stormtrooper. I believe the stormtrooper misses the shot but the red-shirt gets struck by a mysterious piano.

[@Inug4mi]

There were some stories in TOS that haven’t aged well, but at least the were comprehensible unlike most of STD and Star Trek: Picard. I also grew up in a military family and just watching the interactions on STD drives me crazy. No one seems to understand the fact that they’re in an exploratory NAVY. 🤦‍♀️

[@adavidf03]

Amen. No one seems to get that operating an insanely complex ship safely without killing anyone or accidently destroying anything takes an extremely intelligent, mature and focused team working together. It also requires a leader who knows what they are doing and is absolutely committed to the safety and well being of the crew. There is no time for feelings and voting at that fast pace. And this is just to get from point "A to point B." They must also complete their mission.

[@Nyet-Zdyes]

STD... a more appropriate acronym would be difficult to invent. It's so versatile... Star Trek Dysphoria (or Disorder, or Drivel) Sexually Transmitted Drivel (or Dogma, or Dysfunction, or Disgust, etc.) Streaming Terrible Drama (or Drivel, etc.) BTW... I invite everyone to add your own versions of what the acronym "means" in order to feed the alogrithm... and maybe make us laugh...

[@tiggergolah]

@@Nyet-Zdyes or Steaming Torrential Diarrhea.....

[@Nyet-Zdyes]

@Rob Ha! Same here in USA... it was just so blatant that I didn't bother to list it. LOL again over your suggestion, "Scream the Diversity"!!

[@maxisussex]

I don't like discovery but I'm starting to really enjoy Picard. Especially with what now seems to be a Borg origin story.

[@MntneerWVU]

Excellent video. You relayed so much of what many of us are thinking. They are making these shows practically unwatchable, failing to realize others are doing "inclusion" the right way, but not focusing on the "inclusion" but focusing on the story first.

[@williampearson6299]

Did anyone watch Foundation series?

[@Bleakertube]

I forced my way through three seasons of STD and then I had to stop. It’s a show about telling you things: telling you how great its characters are, telling you how great its representation is, telling you how much logic is bad and emotions are good, and telling you that its Star Trek. It doesn’t show you any of those things. It just broke my heart and my brain over and over again.

[@ScottyKirk1]

I pained my way thru S4 and it was EVEN worse than S3 (if that was even possible). It's just plain dumb. In the distant future nobody will ever care what your pronouns or sexual preference is. We are all past this even now, but we have to be told how special others are because they are different. Good sci-fi and storytelling be damned, as "the message" is so much more important than telling interesting and thought provoking stories.

[@ScottyKirk1]

The Orville knows how to tell good morality tales. Best show out there next to The Expanse.

[@suzygirl1843]

@@ScottyKirk1 Orville is "safe". It doesn't do anything risky despite it being written by Seth McFarland.

[@gbalfour9618]

I was kicked out of a Star Trek group for saying the same thing about STD (Discovery). I grew up watching Dr Who then when The Next Gen came on I was watching that. And I loved it, even when kids at school made fun of me for watching it I kept watching bc it was fun and entertaining. I watched some episodes in the first season and I found 3hr of my life gone, and not in a good way. Not a one was fun or entertaining. When every envelope lays on the ground ripped to shreds by the people in charge of Star Trek (Star Wars, Dr Who, Lord of the Rings, etc) then there is nothing to push. The actors even act like they are the first to do this stuff, and that none of the stuff done before even happened.

[@HenshinFanatic]

What else to expect from fools that even Narcissus would admonish as being too in love with themselves?

[@robaitken4592]

Same thing buddy, I tried bringing up the facts about viewership numbers of Enterprise when it was cancelled versus the estimated viewership of Discovery. Discovery has never made the parent company money and its continuing renewal must be for other factors, got called misogynist by the admins and booted out

[@gbalfour9618]

@Rob Aitken I always forget that data point. But it is funny, the one show that puts women in positions of authority that people like (Crusher, Dax, Kira, Janeway, Torres, TPal) ones people like, and we all don’t care; it’s not a hatred for women.

[@ubuynow]

This guy is a gem! Glad I found this channel!

[@judsoncburton]

Wonderfully written and beautifully performed video. I have no clue why these videos do not get more views. Just a joy the watch!

[@kevinkorenke3569]

The problem that I see with television shows like this and most likely the new Lord of the rings series is that they are backed by companies that are so large and have such deep pockets that they can continue to push shows that would have failed otherwise in order to help spread the message they choose. They don't have to write a good show anymore they simply have to be backed by a large enough bank roll.

[@steppahouse]

This is a good point and I'd like for our host to address it. In several different videos on this channel, he has stated that it doesn't matter if a show/movie is good, it just matters if it is successful. The point you make is that they don't care how much it costs, they are getting their Message out, which flies in the face of the successful > good axiom.

[@stevecarey2030]

Yes and no. It still has to make money. As bad as the latest Star Wars trilogy was, it still made money so they will continue as is. If it lost money, then they would think about changing.

[@BertoxolusThePuzzled]

Sure, but without popularity "the message" doesn't spread anyways and you just end up driving people to the opposition with low quality.

[@lafeil]

Agree

[@Selvarin]

They have so much money they can continue to push bad ideas, yes. They have the power to ignore reality, at least for a time.

[@amyminty3165]

"Just tell me a great story. Nuff said!"- The Late, Great Stan Lee

[@rosewoodsteel6656]

My wife and I watched about 10 minutes of the first episode. We love Star Trek and were looking forward to enjoying the new series. 10 minutes was all we could take of it.

[@kmoustakas]

Rings of powder puff? That's better than rings of girl power. Here sir, have a like

[@iamtetsuo8348]

Consume product, then get excited for next product. Jay Bauman's words only become truer everyday

[@johnsnow9653]

You're Canada's treasure. It's ONLY treasure, mind you, but still a treasure.

[@nolongeramused8135]

He's worth at least a dozen old bottle caps.

[@CallMeChato]

Sherriff pudding hockey coins.

[@dennismason3740]

Your "eye position whilst reading" is most excellent. KZbin has taught me how valid a skill that is.

[@williamwarbeck7040]

You say everything I want to say on my KZbin channel but I decided to just stick with reviewing films and TV shows. I have become a big fan of this channel and it warms my heart when I hear the things you say cuz I don't feel alone on my thoughts and beliefs. I did a review of Star Trek Continues, which is by far superior then what Paramount and bad touch robot have been giving us. I did make a STD joke but kept it tame, fear of the backlash. Luckily I didn't get any hate. Thank you for making your videos, they inspire me and makes me want to get off my butt and make some more episodes of my own. Have a wonderful day and keep trekking my friend 🖖

[@hollyweirdland940]

Just your "hello", triggered me. I need some Kombucha and a safe space. Happy, now?

[@davidsanders5652]

Once again - spot on! I'd love to see viewing figures on this dreadful show but the joy of streaming means, even if Paramount/ViacomCBS whoever actually have figures, they don't have to share them.

[@LongfusedbombasticBarbarian]

Bless your soul for saying this as a writer myself this is what I legitimately miss good stories and subtlety please God subtlety

[@ZarMationStudios18]

And the toilet seat joke hit way too hard.

[@Funkylogic]

Spot on and brilliantly stated!!!

[@07cali4nia]

You had me at "gender ambiguous purple haired basement dweller with metal hardware imbedded in their septum." 🤣🤣

[@BoopSnoot]

Google Paul Chato and it says "Canadian person of Hungarian-Jewish descent", so Jewish ethnicity, not white.

[@aaronrowell6943]

Kirk: no I won't kill him Modern star trek: kill him because he's a man

[@earlsmith7428]

"Spock's Brain" is a classic. If you want to discuss the worst episode, let's talk about "The Way to Eden." "Spock's Brain" had humor (lots), some great acting from the bridge crew, who normally didn't get too many lines, and . . . well it's just great.

[@gbalfour9618]

Both those are tour da forces compared to ‘And the Children Shall Lead’ If TOS is on I’ll watch any episode, any but that one.

[@neozeed8139]

I just rewatched it. I must have seen too much modern stuff it was a fine episode. Hell it was freaking amazing, good balance of humour, drama and intrigue. It was fine

[@kathleenhensley5951]

I liked "The way to Eden" !! Hippies in Space? I Thought the absolutely worse episode was Spocks brain. I knew, even as a teenager that the show wasn't going to survive doing junk like that.

[@LaughingLion4Ever]

You're just jealous of Sevrin's ears.

[@earlsmith7428]

@@LaughingLion4Ever Maybe I am!

[@henrydavidvoltaire4752]

Another great take on or dying pop culture. That meme at the end was gold.

[@slyaspie4934]

Definitely, I wonder if that soundtrack is available lol

[@MoonjumperReviews]

Very well said! (Although that Godzilla creature at the beginning really scared me. I hope I don’t have nightmares tonight!)

[@hollyweirdland940]

This guy is like the cool uncle I never had.

[@genghisgahan9623]

I was so scared I dropped my phone in the toilet.

[@us89na]

Just look for bamboo, charcoal, sulfur, saltpeter, and diamonds. That critter won't stand a chance.

[@MoonjumperReviews]

@@us89na - I'll keep that in mind!

[@garethmorgan8326]

Terrific, as always !

[@FourToedJones]

I was sort of excited to watch STD as I wanted to see where they'd take the exploration aspect of it, but was saddened to see it was only about conflicts. No strange new worlds, no seeking out new life, just fighting, both "enemies" and internal conflicts. I was fascinated with the spore drive and am a fan of the real Paul Stamets, but all they used it for was to kill, not exploring. I really didn't care about a female with a male name, nor the same sex couples and the like, I wanted to see some science fiction. Too bad all the sci fi shows I've grown up on are now basically virtue signaling crap. I stumbled across your channel the other day and really like it. Has given me some perspective as to how Hollywood really works and just confirmed why I really don't watch movies anymore. Thanks!

[@viniecastro7728]

I really Love your FNER (Former Network Executive React) Videos :D

[@mcfarlanddavej]

"That which we call a rose by any other name is NOT as sweet" -- Captain Kirk mangling a line from Shakespeare to make a point.

[@christianbecker7212]

I really like your take on things. It is without the vitriol many of the other youtube showmakers spread around, though I have to agree with many of their points concerning my beloved and now desecrated franchises. Your clips are different. They are witty, funny and accurate. Thanks for that. Live long and prosper!...and may the force be with you!

[@FatNorthernBigot]

Star Trek Discovery looks more and more like Fraggle Rock with every season.

[@HenshinFanatic]

Please, Fraggle Rock was actually entertaining for kids; the same can not be said of Simply Terrible Dreck.

[@FatNorthernBigot]

@@HenshinFanatic you got me there.

[@beargrylls235]

"One cuts my hair" :D

[@tomsiebert1941]

Smart, funny & incisive as usual. It's hilarious how these terrible shows that nobody watches inspire so much entertaining content.

[@mrnateford]

Too many of my students seem to think all of this is a fresh revolution; they just can't seem to grasp the fact that these are all reruns.

[@DreAmeoba1]

Never watched STD, as I already knew it would probably be more “woke” nonsense, thank you for pointing out how The Expanse (a personal favorite) has managed to have strong ‘diverse’ characters, without having to beat the audience over the head, & tell a good story (unlike most stuff nowadays)..l

[@billprator3594]

YOU ARE A KZbin HERO OF A LOT OF PEOPLE.

[@Poxenium]

thinking is bad, mkay

[@Darrylizer1]

14 Quatloos on the green haired fetal tissue transportation device!

[@moseshorowitz4345]

That bald gut in The Gamesters Of Triskelion wasn't modeled on Ming the Merciless, but Anton LaVey, founder of the Church of Satan.

[@robertgibbs8953]

Great video. You’re channel gets better every video!! Keep going!!

[@charlescoffey9523]

I think it was John Wayne who said I will be the man so you can be the woman, the problem today is few boys want to do the work it takes to become a man. There are a lot of males in the world, but the supply of men is dropping fast. Most women do not want to be men but when no man comes forward, they will give it a try, women are very pragmatic. This is ironic because, it takes a mother as well a father to make a man. Most fathers without the influence of real women are about useless for being strong parents, most mothers without the contribution of strong men also fail in being great parents. It is the destruction of the family that has driven our civilization to the brink of failure. Science Fiction offers countless ways the future may be expressed, it is the ultimate what if. Good science fiction has layers of truth built in, reflections of history, morality, the character flaws which are part of the human condition. I am glad I discovered your channel; it brings back the underlying theme of not who we really were but of whom we wanted to be. That too, is part of becoming a man, always striving for what he may never reach, without giving up. I could wish most boys and girls for that matter, could have lived in a time where wonder and possibility existed. Where men and women were valued for who they were, not what they were. I would recommend David Weber and John Ringo for any who have not sampled their work, Weber's Honor Harrington series does an excellent job of showing both the good and the bad possibility in our civilizations current path.

[@remo27]

"Men aren't men"... and why is that? Is the it the fact that something around 70 percent of all African American boys and 30 percent of white boys grow up in homes missing one parent (usually the father)? Could it have anything to do with the various laws and policies that serve to either make men useless (Daddy Government) or actively 'defang' or 'defenestrate' them? What about the horrible divorce statistics in pretty much all economic demographics except the Upper Middle Class (Divorce is actually expensive and will lead to loss of living standard for BOTH if both are high earners and thus they have an actual incentive to stay married) and the fact that family laws mostly favor women and many men don't want to commit to an institution where they will be paying for their wives lover and get to see Junior every other week if mommy feels he's a 'good boy'. We've had 50 years of radical feminism, and lots of the 'conservative' right helping it along to 'protect women'. We've had the same time frame of not only women working in large numbers (thus decreasing wages) but jobs being shipped overseas thus making it much harder for a man to be a 'sole provider' even if he wants to be and is willing to take the ridiculous risks that modern family law exposes him to. You have lack of male role models. Then you have constant berating of men, starting in elementary school where they are now learning about sexual harassment before they even have sexual thoughts. Preachers and politicians CELEBRATE women, even single moms on Mothers Day. What do you hear on Fathers Day? More screeds about how bad men are and that they can never do anything right. Then you've got the workplace and deleterious impact of increasingly radicalized and empowered Human Resources departments. Despite all the time people spend at work, trying to find a mate there is now extremely hazardous. Everything is potentially offensive and abusive and the smallest 'power differential' is problematic. ALL of this is going on in the lives of your brothers, sons, and friends and you want to whine about why "Men aren't Men" anymore? Besides bitching at other men and probably beating your own chest, what the heck have you ever done to try to lift men or boys up?

[@shenotski]

Love the Prisoner references at the end of every episode

[@ChrisVandenheuvel]

Great content and analysis. I look forward to live streams of you with the Critical Drinker, Nerdorotic, Heel vs Baby Face etc.

[@robertfalse9063]

Critical drinker is great, and his take on why Rey and Burnam are poor characters is very insightful along with Chato's.

[@rbu2136]

Nerdrotic in particular

[@rbu2136]

Also Doomcock. He’s led the charge against Discovery destroying trek.

[@patrickday4206]

every episode is like a counseling session more about emotions than exploring/adventuring

[@mallios13]

The hilarious thing left for sci-fi to explore is opposition to anthropocentrism; a topic that Carl Sagan himself wanted to push during his time. It was also an issue Asimov dealt with. As someone who enjoys sci-fi and fantasy, and has watched Star Trek's first five shows and three film series, as well as the first season of Discovery and most of the first season of Picard, on top of the many other sci-fi shows and films, the one thing we've yet to let go of is our own narcissism as a species. Of course, we know the folks involved in the recent Star Trek shows would never do this. How could they spend so much effort uplifting "minorities" as the expense of whites, men and heteros, only to admit that even women, POC, gays, trans, etc. are not special in the big wide cosmos? We wouldn't dare depict a sci-fi where we humans are the true monsters and other alien species look at us as that. The closest Trek ever came to that was the "Mirrorverse," but even then it was blunted so that some of the evil parallel were still capable of sating the collective narcissism. That's ultimately why Discover and other such woke projects today aren't progressive. They can't bring themselves to finally break that last bit of supremacy we hold. They need to feel like they're in the 60s fighting the good fight, trying to deny any proof that we've progressed to the very point that their brains work on. These people wouldn't be pushing for the rights of "minorities" if we weren't at that point now, because none of them would have the courage and desire to do so in an environment that actually opposed those groups. So the real fiction now is that humanity is grand and glorious on the final frontier stage, because we all know how insane we'll actually be when we finally meet sapient life off our own planet. Dictating to aliens that they need to accept one of our major gods or that their genders are problematic social constructs.

[@Yarghvid]

Nonsense. Lovecraft did it over a hundred years ago and there's plenty of great contemporary writers continuing to explore it. Douglas Adams and Liu Cixin springs to mind. Maybe you mean Star Trek hasn't progressed? Or that western civilization is stagnant?

[@williampearson6299]

I think it's not about progression. There's a lot of angst that people weren't allowed to express until today and it's been unleashed. Give it a couple more years before we revert back to normalcy.

[@markspearsart]

Ending was AWESOME!!!!!

[@LKaramazov]

As a black man, that’s kinda when I stopped watching std. not only was the black guy gay, he was the wife! That was just too humiliating. We they killed the doctor, I was like ok, at least he’s gone, but then they brought him back. I left. It was just too much.

[@Erlisch1337]

theres a black straight guy in it now. and he has a cat...

[@DivergentDroid]

@@Erlisch1337 I'm a white straight guy with a black cat who enjoyed watching that black straight guy with a cat. Now Booker is going away to pay for his crimes so he's probably out as well as the cat, both were good actors. At least he got to make out with Michael.

[@DivergentDroid]

@L Karamazov I feel your pain. Ru Paul exists.

[@esecallum]

its awful the diversity casting and gender swapping. UGH. Look how Foundation was ruined by this nonsense.

[@euterpe55]

I'm a Black female and I kind of resent the fact that you completely ignored Bryce, the very competent, Black male communications officer as well as Cleveland Booker who is very male and has (had now) what is possibly the coolest ship in Sci-Fi. (He came after you stopped watching, but he has a pet cat so probably not macho enough for you.) Your comment was disingenuous and misleading since this is not the 1960s and there was more than one Black guy on the ship.

[@Nubodir]

I'm loving your content. Thank you

[@DarioDarrow]

4:19 I tried to keep watching as I’ve watched every episode of Trek since 1989 when it aired...but I just can’t watch Disco. I gave up putting myself through all the stress of screaming at the TV 😆

[@anthonywoodroof2800]

Good work ! If I saw myself on an episode of my favourite sci fi show, I would not be watching that show. I watch for escapism, not for things I see everyday.

[@donaldmiller7098]

I don't know man, that "forgetting to put the seat back down" bit might just be enough. I did it one night and my wife got up in the dark and sat on the rim. Yes, I'm still alive - but never forgot again!

[@doodledee4084]

We can move on to issues of which way the toilet paper should roll, or does the gal lower the lid before the toothbrushes (which have their home on the tank's lid) fall into the bowl.

[@alienlife7754]

What? Women don’t have eyes? They can’t look before sitting down?

[@hunchanchoc8418]

You're wrong - the problem is the women forgetting to put the seat back UP .

[@icedriver2207]

@@hunchanchoc8418 You beat me to this comment.

[@hunchanchoc8418]

@@icedriver2207 No problem bro ;-))

[@shorttimer874]

Your mention of how awe inspiring sci-fi used to be reminded me of a Ray Bradbury short story I read many decades ago. Am sure I've got the details wrong after all this time, but as I remember it was about a couple of boys going time traveling. At the end of the story the big reveal was they were going over to neighbor's house and listening to the stories told by an old man. Classic. And then there was the Twilight Zone episode, To Serve Man.

[@kathleenhensley5951]

There is a short story by Ray Bradbury, "There will come soft rains" - It's an awfully dark story about an computer run house that is still running after the human beings are vaporized in a nuclear attack. It was one of those stories (Arthur C Clarke's "The Star" is another one) that I can remember decades after originally reading it. When my husband came home, one day, back in 1976, and told me that Home Computers were actually going to happen in our lifetime and he wanted to buy a very expensive calculator for work and save for a computer.... I was shocked .. the story 'There will come soft rains' immediately came to mind and I mentioned it and said, 'Sure, in the next century, maybe, but not yet!' He said we weren't quite there, (computer run houses) yet, but computers were going to available for home use and wanted permission (my consent & cooperation) to start saving money for his first home computer. I, of course, the forever Sci-fi fan, consented.

[@shorttimer874]

@@kathleenhensley5951 Kindred souls, bought an Apple ][ Plus in 79 just 'cause it was so neat.

[@shorttimer874]

Except I wasn't smart enough to mention it to my gf, oops.

[@13thdukeofwybourne69]

Well the gloves were well and truly off on this one. :)

[@obiwanceleri]

Geezus your opening scene nearly gave me a heart attack!

[@acerimmer8357]

I attributed some of STD, Picard and other Sci-Fi failure to lazy writing/poor storytelling and use of special effects to compensate for the lack thereof. I think Rise of Skywalker is a prime example "I wouldn't repeat everything wrong it's been beat to death" where New Hope had a Death Star the size of a small moon now we have a Death Planet that sucks energy from the sun.....then shoots it thru hyperspace wow, oh my gosh etc. STD had some very impressive special effects but failed in the story department, no hopeful future here, I watched maybe two and a half episodes and have regretted wasting my time. Whereas The Expanse had a great story told in an interesting way, good character development, with a fairly balanced amount of special effects, the writers, actors and showrunners did a good job of pulling you in and making you anticipate the next show. Well said sir, I concur on your take of the revenge theme.

[@BunBun299]

I don't think we're bored of special effects. I think we're bored of special effects as a substitute for writing. Put those effects in a well written show, and we'd all be there for it, loving every minute.

[@greyman1104]

The third season of The Expanse was mindblowingly good.

[@Spacegryphon]

And then the show started to detoriate once Amazon took over.

[@kevinkorenke3569]

@@Spacegryphon not really, they followed the books. Some creative license was necessary here and there simply because books never transfer 100% to television or movies, but they more or less followed the story lines and plot lines of the books and did so very well.

[@greyman1104]

@@Spacegryphon Couldn't continue season 4.

[@Spacegryphon]

@@kevinkorenke3569 Three episodes in a row with nothing but Naomi heavy breathing and crying ain't what I call entertainment.

[@kevinkorenke3569]

@@Spacegryphon well I'm sure there's some episodes of space 1999 you can go watch. Not every plot line is going to be equally entertaining, not every characterization is going to be as equally received. For me the overly emotional portrayals were a downside but I was able to soldier through them like a big boy and enjoy the rest of the show. Most of the highly emotional portrayals we saw in the series were injected by the studios it seems because the characters in the books were actually much more professional in those situations and were able to handle that drama within a page or so. That's really the only downside to the show that I found.

[@breaker2479]

Great video. Hope things turn around soonish because it's frustrating me to no end.

[@kylej741]

Just bought from Amazon the Blue Ray ‘Star Trek TOS’ [note the two shameless plugs] - ah, the good ol’ days of sci fi writing. Menly men being men with strong female characters.

[@spcfeole52]

"Edith keeler must die" "Mr. Spock how goes the stone knives and bearskins?" Payoffs, humor. TOS had it all.

[@johnblack8655]

Spend 20i minutes on TikTok and you may reconsider that a certain group getting "rights" and "independence" was a positive development.

[@mpnuorva]

STD creatives: "Our show is a vehicle for progress and representation!" Also STD Creatives: Lean on Men Are the Expandable Sex. Also STD Creatives: Our's is the first black commander in the series.

[@erichooper2794]

Sisco never gets the respect he deserves.

[@us89na]

@@erichooper2794 Doctor Richard Daystrom in TOS was the developer of the M-5 computer. Black computer genius in 1968. Did everyone stand around going "look, he's black?" Nope, he just was.

[@jorgedasilva7665]

@@erichooper2794 And he's one of the best too. 😢

[@nordan00]

@@us89na He had that booming bass voice, too!

[@cmgweb6951]

Don't know why this was suggested to me, but I almost fell out of my chair when he said "Sorry, fetal tissue transportation devices" Holy f'n sh*t, that's hilarious. May have to watch some more episodes when time allows.

[@DarioDarrow]

6:17 Disco space battles are always “shot” with an impossible camera. CGI only works for me if the camera movements are constrained to real world limitations.

[@VRnamek]

this is the best KZbin channel ever!

[@michaelmayo]

You just made me realize ToddToys hasn't done "The Expanse," which is a drag since they (A) had the best spacesuits and (B) I'd buy a Drummer figure in a heartbeat...

[@LukeKorolowiczArt]

okay this gentleman needs all our time and money

[@planetdisco4821]

I was watching this and was like: “what about the Expanse?” Then you said it! Best Science Fiction show since B5 Also there was talk a few years back of Amazon doing a big budget adaptation of Iain M Banks sci fi classic “Consider Phlebus” which potentially could have been amazing. His ultra hi tech utopian society “The Culture” would have great to see in the screen. Oh well…. Apparently Netflix is doing a Conan series too? please god, don’t let it be woke or I will lose it….

[@wolfetom10]

Hahaha! Mid-video, KZbin broke in with an ad for Star Trek Discovery. Way to go, KZbin ad algorithm!

[@jodi2847]

What baffles me the most is that these woke TV shows have been, like the films, consistent loss leaders, yet they take the hits to their collective pocketbooks proudly and then make another season, and another, and another. Are they prolonging shows like Batwoman and Star Trek: Discovery in service to "the greater good?" Because they sure as hell aren't making money. Are they? Has their dedication to spreading "the message" finally given them the sense of purpose their empty souls were always lacking?

[@jpb2366]

it is because is it not a lone wolf doing woke shows. It's the whole pyramid behind them. There is no counter weight or conservative views allowed in their ranks. It's pure leftist staff, which allows for far-left activist to prosper without interference

[@patrickstewart3446]

No, it hasn’t. That’s why they keep going. They are never going to be happy because the things they are doing to make themselves happy are actually causing them to become more miserable.

[@gbalfour9618]

Bc they buy into the fallacy that TOS was canceled bc it was too progressive, so they have to make sure people watch and will do 5 seasons even thou they only do 5 a season and after that time just meet the 26 the first season had in total.

[@michaelkrull3331]

Two words for you dude: tax shelter.

[@daistoke1314]

Thanks for making me laugh I needed that today.

[@shanezielinski7418]

You really need to speak to KZbinrs such as: NERDROTIC, THE CRITICAL DRINKER, COMIC ARTIST PRO SECRETS. Get on a livestream with them. These are the guys talking about the massive problems associated with 'The Message' - the idea that everything has regressed to the Dark Ages (as you said, it hasn't) - Single Narrative Cultural Marxism - And the realities of ESG (if you consider that a factor).

[@cjk5115]

I couldn't agree with you more about The Expanse - the characters and writing were all excellent and they were organically good, not at the expense of someone else. I forced myself to watch the very first episode of Discovery and barely survived with my sanity intact. How this crap which shouldn't even stick to film STILL gets televised is beyond me. Great commentary!

[@tim2269]

We can take back Science Fiction TV by rebooting The Starlost....Harlan Ellison is rolling in his grave.

[@Peorhum]

Just think of all the minorities that could "woked" in a starlost reboot. Each dome could have it's minority majority, ruling it's version of utopia. Each week have a new dome being visited by a group of white, straight genders, explorers and being put in their place by the ethnic group and sent on their way with their tail between their legs, to only be rebuffed next week in another minority majority ruled dome... a SJW's dream storyline.

[@MV-ir7sk]

Not only is your commentary insightful, but you're damn funny too.

[@ZarMationStudios18]

Thank you for addressing the interent fad - and thank you for shedding light on what's behind it! Sci-Fi has always been a haven for controversy, as you said, and I believe it should stay that way. It just depends on how crazy we wanna get with it.

[@thurin84]

most adults are capable of seeing themselves in characters they share no commonality with.

[@MrMustardfinger]

I actually didnt mind the first season of discovery it was ok. had some good moments and some really bad ones but i gave up after season 2. Picard, I managed about 2 episodes dont think id ever go back to either of them. Its actually a shock when I watch a film or tv show made in the last 5 years that doesnt have overt white straight male bashing. I watched the Adam Project last night and it was so refreshing and enjoyable because it didnt even try to lecture me.

[@JennySparkz]

All of everything that you said was true and correct and pretty much my line of thinking. The only difference being I did not get through the second season of STD.

[@MrMustardfinger]

@@JennySparkz Good choice in not carrying on to season 2!

[@icitrom]

I'm also old enough to have seen Star Trek (The Original Series) as it was originally broadcast. To say, Star Trek: Picard, season 2, episode 1, had a background character on the bridge named Moshe. He was part of the series for about 20 seconds. After 55 years, finally, finally I too can enjoy Star Trek now that I have been represented on the show.

[@pilroberts6185]

Star Trek (TOS) was classical liberalism. ‘Discovery’ is Modern Liberalism. And therein lies all the difference.

[@jacobbrasher2511]

Awesome. So glad I found your channel

[@edrosa3485]

I watched the first episode of S2 of STD. I noticed 3 things; the writing was horrendous, the females had nice figures and many diversity boxes were checked... Probably at least 6 episodes into The Expanse was when I noticed the attractiveness of the females as well as how diverse the cast was. Why did it take me so long? I was engrossed in the story of The Expanse and I could not have cared less about the story of STD.

[@mnamnam6061]

Oh my, what a reliefe again to listen to someone, who is able to watch what happens, asks for the consequences, makes me listen closely and think and smile. Thank you human born on Terra, System Sol, Milky Way, Andromeda Cl., Virgo SCl. I really work hard to push myself into consiousness and awareness with my mind active and a laugh in between really helps a lot. This is all so insane, ideologic loud statements, but nooooooooo ability to start or lead anything with a useful outcome. Maybe I was right from the beginning and the virus was not only deadly for many people, but a lot more may even suffer from brain damage and nobody realises that. Maybe Microphones are more dangerous than we ever thought and standing in front of Camera's may ... ;)

[@noeldillabough]

I was going to watch the last season of Discovery but my wife said it was "complete drivel" (she being a star trek fan forever) so we aborted. This season fares no better and I guess we made the right decision.

[@coleparker]

As an old white male myself who watch Star Trek TOS from the beginning, I think your review is spot on. Some of the observations you made actually started with the TNG series, which I cannot stand to watch anymore.

[@MightyJonE]

I’ve always preferred sci-fi novels over futuristic TV shows or films. I remember Heinlein’s novels after Stranger In A Strange Land tended to feature characters sleeping with their own mothers, sisters, etc, in such an extremely casual way that it’s incidental to the main story, never focused on, almost an afterthought, so is portrayed as perfectly healthy and normal. Nothing drives home the point more that a story’s set in the far future when something that’s absolutely taboo in current society is presented as perfectly acceptable in that future human society. So I absolutely agree with your assessment of sexual relationships in STD - essentially, it’s not being forward-thinking; it’s safe, merely reflecting the accepted norms seen in most modern Western entertainment. There’s no equivalent of that ground-breaking inter-racial kiss from 60s Trek. I guess the equivalent nowadays would be a lead male in a heterosexual relationship! 😂

[@thac0twenty377]

Ah you read Time Enough for Love too lol

[@thomasmaughan4798]

" sleeping with their own mothers" There's nothing wrong with sleeping with your mother, your cats 'n dogs or anything else. It is what you do when *awake* that sometimes matters.

[@simonlamarche1]

Thank you for existing

[@nolongeramused8135]

I first heard that as "Star Trek: POS" for which I assumed he was referring to Discovery.

[@slyaspie4934]

No that's aptly abbreviated to STD which is a POS, so it's an understandable mistake if you misheard

[@nomdeplorable3362]

Bravo good sir! You hit the nail on the head.

[@Jdikmen]

As a life-long Trekkie, I made it through about the first 10 minutes of Discovery and shut it off. Currently forcing myself to endure the horrible writing in "Picard". The two series just taught me that even hundreds of years from now that they never found a cure for gay or baldness - the latter being personally depressing.

[@thebigphilbowski]

Why would they need a cure for either?

[@andrewj6611]

Can’t wait for your reaction for the Halo show.