440 Chrysler Mopar Engine Building Part 12 - Dyno Test

[@AlexO-c1q]

2:40 Thanks Pete ever since my Dad passed it's been really difficult trying to remember all those special tips you've really are a Great Mechanic thank you for making it so easy to understand God Bless an peaceful Holidays

[@PetesGarage]

Thank you my friend, the same to you.

[@stevenfrederick2315]

Thank You Pete for all the Detailed information about the 440 Rebuild, Especially, The Roller Rocker Arms centering and lash adjustment and how to center the Roller on the Rocker Arm to the Valve stem with an Marker!

[@PetesGarage]

Glad it was helpful!

[@FCAutos]

Love the sound of that engine...

[@PetesGarage]

It is awesome!

[@kristenwilliams9880]

Feeling a lot more confident about pulling the 440 out of my 73 Charger now to rebuild it after watching this. Thanks!

[@PetesGarage]

Awesome....you can do it.

[@lexriordan8566]

Hey how'd it go

[@dinadaughtry8993]

Hey, same car engine I have not a number matches but I don't care,means that I can build it the way I want hope you have good luck with your 73 charger

[@jakemoody82]

WOW Pete! Great Build! Beautiful work. I started watching part 1 and I couldn't stop. I watched all 12 back to back. Amazing Job Buddy!

[@PetesGarage]

That's awesome! Thanks Jake

[@rjecsn]

Very informative video series on the 440 mopar @Pete's Garage. I will try to use your tips while re-building my 440. Thank you for sharing!

[@PetesGarage]

Glad it was helpful!

[@kevinl8350]

Thanks for these videos and all your hard work getting them on youtube

[@PetesGarage]

Thank you for watching

[@pablosgarage707]

Doing a similar build on my 440. Its going in my 68 charger. Your videos are amazing answered all my questions. Subscribed👍

[@PetesGarage]

Awesome! Good luck with yours

[@randylear8264]

Nice. I know this was 5 years ago. But I ran across it now. I know you probably will not respond and that is OK. Just want to thank you. As I am putting together my 1970 440 as I type. It is old school except for the aluminum heads. I will be using the 70 exhaust manifolds and a 69 Six Pack intake. It has an old 484 purple shaft flat tapped. I have pre oiled with a melling high volume oil pump and it puts out 80lbs. I have a Milodon 7 quart oil pan. It will appear totally stock in my 70 GTX. I have painted the inner fender wells and fire wall. Also have all the parts to the air grabber hood ready to go. Rebuilt the brakes and front end. New shocks all the way around. I hope to be driving it by summer. I have all the parts to put it back together except for the seat covers and new foam. Thanks again for a really nice build. I believe my engine if everything is with in spec. Will put out about 450 hp. 475torque. But it's only a guess.

[@PetesGarage]

Sounds like an awesome car Randy!

[@wedge4hire]

Thanks so much Pete, for the tip on cleaning up the corners on the Edelbrock Performer RPM intake! I ran into that problem rebuilding the 440 in my 69 Coronet RT and it really made installation so much easier! Wish I had seen the videos before assembling the motor.

[@PetesGarage]

Thanks very much my friend. Always have to check fit

[@stevejanka361]

Wow!! Big horsepower and torque. Dodge never got close to those numbers. Great job. Thanks and take care.

[@PetesGarage]

Thanks Steve, if they only built them that way from the factory.

[@markdraper4087]

A great video Pete. My 440 just got home from the dyno. Mine is a little more tame though. 488HP at 5400, but 565TQ at 3200, and it stays over 500TQ until 5000rpm. Thanks again for the video. A great series. Learned a lot.

[@PetesGarage]

That's awesome, thanks Mark

[@specwar64]

Hey Pete,this was the first series i actually enjoyed. In fact,i couldn't wait to see each ensuing episode. A little food for thought here: Perhaps you could do one of the Stage V 440 to Hemi conversions next. That would make an interesting series too i think. I think alot of the Ma Mopar guys might enjoy it. Thanks n keep em coming.

[@PetesGarage]

I am so glad you enjoyed it. I'm no TV host, but I'm getting better...lol. I have a couple other Mopar guys lined up. We'll see if one of them will do it.

[@purestress2]

Just layed here all night watching every part to your video... You sir are an Engine King! You have a new subscriber! Looking forward to more of your videos.

[@PetesGarage]

That is awesome! Thank you for watching

[@stansilver6791]

Another great project Pete! Your research, attention to detail and expertise are to be commended. That 440 ran as smooth as silk on the dyno. I'm certain it'll find a happy home in an iconic Mopar. Now, about that t-shirt? haha Cheers for now my friend....

[@PetesGarage]

Thank you Stan. It did run very nice and it will look awesome in the '69 Coronet it is going in to. I asked the owner for video of it running installed. Do I owe you a t-shirt?

[@stansilver6791]

That would be great to see. Those older Mopars hold a special place in any enthusiasts heart. Even this old Ford guys heart. About the t-shirt, no you don't owe me at all, that was my subtle was of saying I'd love to have one. Your series and videos have added greatly to my experiences around building engines. Thanks for taking the time to do them. They've been very educational.

[@PetesGarage]

Email me your address

[@prashanthkrishanduth8521]

Beautiful build Pete, keep up the great work. Maybe solid roller upgrade in the future, to take advantage of the head flow (he said hopefully...):) Streetable choices for solid roller would probably be Lunati 40230734 or the more agressive Comp 23-705-9.

[@PetesGarage]

That's a great suggestion, I may heve 1 coming up

[@ericburk7301]

That 440 ran so smooth. !

[@PetesGarage]

It is really nice.

[@DjBaBaDProMiXX]

love all of youre vidos man !!!! ive learnd a lot from you thanks and keep going update us! take care over there in the u.s :) from israel

[@PetesGarage]

Thank you very much my friend. You take care, we will try to help

[@andyd9900]

Great project. I have a 1968 GTX 440. It would be nice to see a parts build sheet. I am interest in the serpentine set-up. I actually live 30 minutes from March performance. But I am running the same set-up just the alternator and water pump.

[@PetesGarage]

Great car Andy. Email me [e-mail] and I'll send you the parts list

[@themechanic6117]

Amazing work👍

[@PetesGarage]

Thanks my friend

[@MrPistons4life]

New subscriber big pete. I will be in touch I'm a mopar man from Detroit. I'm in the process of getting a 440 long block and a 413 wedge from a buddy of mine. My plan is to stroke the 440 with a holley efi fuel system with powerport 270 trickflow heads all hydraulic roller. I also own a 66 fury 2 with a poly 318 under 30k original miles. Thanks in advance for your help.

[@PetesGarage]

That sounds awesome!

[@ninjapumkin]

Amazing job and loved this series, Inspiration to do my own block myself. Just watched your vid on how to pick the right carb last night.

[@PetesGarage]

You can do it. Thanks for watching my friend.

[@jmcenterprises9591]

Pete, what a great series. Really enjoyed it and learned alot. Gotta check out your Facebook page next.

[@PetesGarage]

Thanks my friend. Facebook is a quicker way to communicate

[@saxmusicmail]

I've built LA engines, but never B or RB's. Learned a lot, thanks!

[@PetesGarage]

Thank you

[@felixvillanueva2576]

What was the total expense on the project

[@PetesGarage]

Total cost of parts is around $10k.

[@mariozermeno2649]

Yo Pete nice build one question on a 413 stock rebuild 10:1 compression how big of a cam carb combo can be used? Thank you pete!

[@PetesGarage]

That all depends on the head choice

[@chadklotz5494]

Pete, I’m in the process of building my 440 in stages. It’s a fresh stock 440 in my 70 GTX. It’s got a 509 lift flat tappet cam currently in it. My winter project this year is add the RPM intake and performer 800 cfm carb. Next winter is the trick flow 240 heads, TTI headers (I currently have factory manifolds) and roller rockers. What is the compression you are running on the 440 you show in this video? Thanks in advance for your response and great videos!!!

[@PetesGarage]

Thanks Chad, this one had about 9.5:1 static

[@christianmadsen3810]

Hi Pete! first of all how smooth and silent it does sound. How many rpm did you use. And how did the first start up go. Did you have to do adjustment around the distributor. Thanks

[@PetesGarage]

I think we ran up to 5400 RPM's and the timing is always the first thing you adjust. Get the timing and vacuum advance working properly before tuning the carb.

[@ELDIABLO444]

I'd like to see you build up a 360 and 440 for a ramcharger. You know a off road low end torque engine something that does all it's work below 3400 rpm. Great series tho I liked it, you know you're stuff pete.

[@PetesGarage]

Thanks John, I'll keep that in mind

[@Prostreeter64]

Enjoyed this series. I am considering a stroker with a six pack set up. Do you have a parts list for your build including part numbers?

[@PetesGarage]

I do, send me an email

[@johnrosado9245]

Pete's Garage [e-mail] Can I also get that list. I have a 1974 Dodge Challenger R/T clone with a 440. I would love to rebuild it. Thanks for the video series! How much would you charge for such work? Ballpark figures. Where in the US are you located? Thanks in advance Sir.

[@mostumpy]

Great series. Lots of head room left in that motor. Like to see it with EFI.

[@PetesGarage]

Maybe I'll get someone to ask for it, that would be cool to do

[@jdeere2141]

Wow!!! Super Build!!! Thanks so much!

[@PetesGarage]

Thank you for watching

[@supercargalaxy8233]

Great videos and series keep them going. Awesome work and a beautiful motor. I from Long Island but I've been up to Buffalo a few times to take a trip across the border for a couple lap dances lol. always a good time up there.

[@PetesGarage]

We call that the "ballet"

[@joedurso5192]

curious what headers you went with and what was the application for the 440 you built...??? very nice series...I subbed within 2 min of part 1 as I work at a 30K sq foot resto /custom shop and know what I saw was quality right out of the box...extremely well done all around Sir...

[@PetesGarage]

Hooker headers for a '69 Coronet. Thanks Joe

[@captnmitchnee1903]

Great job Pete👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@PetesGarage]

Thanks 👍

[@ibanezsrbass1759]

Hey Pete, What cam did you run, it seems that it would have made a lot more power, I am building almost the same build accept for the bottom end being 512 cubic inches and my cam is xe295hl by Comp, 564/564 lift, using 1.6 Roller Rockers and 251/257 duration on 112 LSA. With the 240 Trick flow heads and 1 7/8" headers ,it should put me around 620-40 HP..

[@PetesGarage]

I build engines to what the customer wants. In this particular case he wanted an engine that had just over 500 HP

[@ibanezsrbass1759]

@@PetesGarage yeah I get it but seems to be more of a waste of money, he could have done 500hp with basic 440 stroke, instead of buying a 512 stroker, TF heads just t make 500hp.

[@perry9251]

Great video. I do think the second guesser in the H.P. contest should get a sweatshirt also. Just saying. This is my first time watching one of your videos, I was very impressed. The best I have seen, and I've watched a ton of videos. Great job Pete.

[@PetesGarage]

Thank you very much Perry....I only have so many to give away

[@PirataSports]

A great series, thank you.

[@PetesGarage]

you my friend

[@kengruginski6889]

Awesome build up couple questions did you buy a complete stroker kit and when you did did you buy it through a reliable source and what was the compression for the Pistons

[@PetesGarage]

I bought all the parts separate form very reliable places. The compression was 9.5:1

[@wyrtwister4260]

How does the cost vs horse power compare , against the Hemi ? A Chevy engine ? A Ford engine ? All normally asperated . Thanks , :-) Wyr God bless

[@PetesGarage]

It really all depends on what you put in it. I can make a 351 Ford put out more HP than a 44 MOPAR or 454 Chevy.

[@wyrtwister4260]

Which yealds the greatest HP for the dollar invested ? Thanks , :-) Wyr God bless

[@PetesGarage]

Probably a 350 Chevy and a 302 or 351 Ford

[@wyrtwister4260]

@@PetesGarage Thanks , :-) Wyr God bless

[@markmurtagh4434]

Hi pete I'm in Australia I've just built a nice 451 stroker I wanted to ask you what brand of water pump an housing did u use on this an also I've noticed a lot of guys use a flat serpentine belt now is that because u get slippage fron a V belt,,by the way love your videos

[@PetesGarage]

Hey Mark, I used the housing and pump from 440source.com. I use the serpentine belts because they don't slip. Thanks for watching!

[@andyd9900]

I was wondering what type of air cleaner you ran. As that performer is almost 1.7 inches taller than stock. I had a half inch spacer on my stock setup an the top of the stock air cleaner would rub on the underside of the hood insulation. I was running a 750 street demon which I would also bet is lower than the 850 you are running there. This is on a 1968 GTX stock hood. I was just looking at using the rpm intake but think I may have interference issues.

[@PetesGarage]

I used the cats aluminum MOPAR air cleaner from 440source

[@andyd9900]

@@PetesGarage I checked 440 source seems they do not sell them anymore. I did find them at Mancini racing. Just FYI.

[@PetesGarage]

Thanks

[@martyjohnsonozarkoutdoors8198]

Great videos thanks for sharing your knowledge. Question for you... I have a 72 chevy 400 small block. And a set of new promax heads. 64cc chambers. 2.02/1.60 valves. With 185cc intake runners. The intake i have at the moment is a Weiand X-celerator. The block is stock std bore and factory pistons. Dished. It was a 160hp two barrel engine. But i was hoping the 64cc heads would increase the compression. I will eventually be having the block bored and trued up. But this year its going back together with the stock crank, rods and pistons. So my question is what cam shaft would you recommend for this engine combination. The car is an 84 camaro. 4.11 gears. 700r4 transmission and 2500 stall converter. Roughly 3200 lbs. Ill be running it on the 1/8 mile drag strip. And street driving now and then. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks again

[@PetesGarage]

You have to match the cam to the valve springs. So either choose a cam that matches what you have, or buy a bigger cam and get the valve springs to match. A racing cam will kill stock valve springs, even in promax heads.

[@martyjohnsonozarkoutdoors8198]

Pete's Garage Sorry i should have gave you those specs too. The springs are supposed to be good for .550 lift. And for a flat tappet hydraulic non roller cam. And i would also like to be able to get by on pump gas. I was watching your video on cam selection and realized that the cam timing of the intake closing has a lot to do with the actual compression and what type fuel i can run. I know going from the 76 cc stock heads to 64 cc is going to make a considerable difference in compression even on the stock dished pistons . I just don't want it to be so much that i have to cut back on timing and lose power. So i guess what im asking is. With a cam that makes power in the 2000 to 5600 rpm range. For drag racing. And no more than .525 lift. What in your opinion would be the best duration and lobe separation angle to go with on a 400cubic inch engine and what should i look for as far as intake valve closing btdc. The cam is the heartbeat. And i dont have a lot to spend on the engine this year. So i really need to get it right the first time. Always before i looked at the power range that the cam was advertised at. And picked one that way. But i see after watching your video that i could have done better. Oh and if you have any decals about your KZbin channel. Id be happy to slap some on my old hot rod this summer before the track he opens. I think a lot of guys could learn from your channel. Thanks again.

[@PetesGarage]

That's a great idea, I'll get some decals made. I would go to the Comp Cams website and use their tools to help you select a cam. Call tech support from a couple manufacturers and see what they say. It's not as difficult as you think. 110 LSA for sure with a .525/.525 is a good tartget

[@martyjohnsonozarkoutdoors8198]

Pete's Garage Ok thanks. I did email compcams yesterday so maybe they'll have a good recommendation for me in the next few days. Let us know when you have your decals available.

[@colinmarklein6788]

Great series to watch. I will be doing a similar build soon!

[@PetesGarage]

Awesome....thanks Colin

[@moepar8954]

I would have expected a little more than that. What is the cam specs? Compression ratio? Is only a mild cam?

[@MrThisIsMeToo]

Honestly. How could you expect anything without knowing the cam specs or compression?

[@moepar8954]

That's why I asked.

[@PetesGarage]

The cam is 242/248 @ 50, 93 octane, 9.5:1 dynamic compression. The goal was 500 HP and still be a nice street runner.

[@tobiaswillson5900]

wow ,

[@moepar8954]

That's pretty good for that comp etc. Nice work mate.

[@lilxtra8716]

What timing chain setup and cam button did you use? Cloyes? Thanks and good video!

[@PetesGarage]

SA gear 78525T-9R and COMP Cams cam button

[@lilxtra8716]

Thank You!

[@stevel7957]

Nice work Pete! Wondering if the #6 exhaust temp profile is anything to note being 100 odd degrees cooler than the rest? Sensor needs calibration? (Some great learning's in this series for me. I'm prep'g to rebuild two marine 440's this winter.)

[@PetesGarage]

That's a great question Steve, I'll have to look into that

[@AB-80X]

It's a function of the dual plane intake. They make a lot of low end torque and run great, but at the same time, their cylinder to cylinder distribution is not very good. With the Edelbrock RPM Airgap on BBC engines, i have seen as much difference as 11.5 AF on one cylinder and 14:5 on another. I have a Mopar 540 with the same heads, and after trying a few manufolds on the dyno, I settled on a Weiand single plane. It virtually overlaid the graph of the Edelbrock from 2500 to 4000 rpm, and above that it picked up power. Part of that was of course because it was a single plane and the large cube motor liked that monifold, but some of it was also because the distribution was a lot better. When I used the Edelbrock it leaned out in the higher rpm, and looking at this dyno sheet, this looks to be doing it too. I adhere to the idea that the right AF is where the motor makes the most power, i.e the engine tells you what AF and what timing it wants. But an AF over 13 at WOT in the higher rev range is a bit uncomfortable for me. 12.5 to 12.7 is about as high as I like to go, and usually that's also where the power is the highest. Maybe a 92 or 93 jet would be the ticket rather than the 90. Once i was blissfully unaware of in how much danger a cylinder could be in on a carbed setup. Then I started to dyno things with 8 sensors. It's amazing what we get away with and how bad cylinder to cylinder distribution can be with carbs and dual plane manifolds.

[@maximeaugier6307]

Hello Pete. In first thanks for all this build videos. I have a 1973 440 in my 70 Challenger, this engine have Toker II intake, Holley EFI Sniper, 0.507 Comps cam camshaft, stock heads, and probably stock pistons. I wanna be in the 500/600 HP range, I'm looking the KB 237 piston and Edelbrock Performer RPM heads (75 cc), do you think I need to upgrade pistons and heads (10.7 to 1 with KB 237) or just the heads will be nice ?

[@PetesGarage]

Sounds like a good plan, you should upgrade the heads and pistons if you're looking to get 500/600. That .507 my need a bit more too.

[@maximeaugier6307]

@@PetesGarage okay thank you 😀👍

[@maximeaugier6307]

@@PetesGarage Do you think KB 237 will be a good choise for a 500/600 HP Street build ?

[@PetesGarage]

I'm not sure, never built one.

[@AB-80X]

To get to 600 hp SAE, you need to go this route. Get a piston that takes your compression up to 10.5 or 11. Get Trick Flow 240's. Get a solid roller with about 250 int. @ .050 w. about 650 lift. Use the Trick Flow single plane intake That's what you need to make an honest 600 hp SAE. The stuff you have a far from up to the task. I make about 650 hp STD but at 185 F. So about 600-610 SAE. But that's a bored and stroked 540 with the Trick Flow 240 heads, Weiand single plane and the largest hydraulic roller Howards make paired up with Harland Sharp 1.6 rockers. If you want a 440 to make that power, you need RPM and much more flow that what the stock heads will give you. That Torker II is also a pretty terrible intake to be a bit blunt.

[@70Superbird]

Hi Pete, Awesome series on the 440 build. I like your style. I learned a lot which is good as I'm getting ready to build a 440 for my Superbird race-replica. I'm thinking I want to get at least 600 hp for the Silver State Challenge. What recipe would you recommend for doing a 90 mile endurance race with a top speed of 200+? Obviously I'll have a rear end with some tall gearing and I'm thinking of putting Gear Vendors gear drive behine the 727. I need help with which heads/cam/ pistons and crank combo and intake and carb set up. Any recommendations? No turbo or supercharger wanted yet. Thanks! Chris in Seabeck Wa.

[@dannyfasttcars8612]

Yes I totally agree I build mopar engine for a living so do have high expectations but the output that this engine produced was more inline to what a stock stroke 440 with properly ported cast iron heads and mild flat tappet cam does. I just pulled a 499 off the dyno last weekend that has ported cast iron heads a old mopar .528 flat tappet cam factory six pack induction and 9.8:1 compression. It produced 640 ft lbs of tq at 4300 RPM and 578 HP at 5200 RPM. This combination should have easily made the same amount of tq with at least 615 plus HP. I would be embarrassed and taking the engine back apart if it couldn't perform better then a stock stroke cast iron heads engine at half the cost. I don't know any professional engine builder who would ever just pull a head out of the box and bolt it on without verifying that every specification was correct. This gives Mopars a bad name with such a under performing 10g combination. The detail on the other hand was fairly nice but some of the most important details have been overlooked.

[@PetesGarage]

Interesting point Danny. I agree with you and could have gotten huge numbers, but I have to think about what the customer wants and build an engine that not only fits their needs, but will perform for a very long time. The target was 500 HP, not 600, so I met the goal and it runs fantastic for the car it's going in. It is also going to England so it's not as cheap to run as it is in the US. Gas over there is very expensive and giving him a 600+ HP engine would cost a fortune to run. I'm never embarrassed when the customer is happy. Maybe I will make a video series about how to squeak out every last bit of HP. Thank you for your comment.

[@PetesGarage]

You'll have to work backwards, how fast will the tires be rotating, what gear ratio in the back, what RPM will the transmission be turning, where is peak torque needed in the engine to make sure 200 MPH is possible, what cam fits that torque range etc...

[@70Superbird]

I'm working on that process now as I'm gathering parts and pieces (and money for it all!) Thanks Pete! Keep up the good work.

[@rileyqissentell1647]

I've been thinking of doing an engine swap on my 99 ram 1500, taking out the 360 and putting in a 440

[@PetesGarage]

Do it!

[@TheBukesde]

Thank you for this awesome video series! This really helps a lot while building a motor. Do you remember the vacuum at a idle with this cam? Would it be enough for power brakes? At which rpm. Did the engine idle? Thanks a lot Pete!

[@PetesGarage]

Thanks my friend. The vacuum was around 12, I would recommend a vacuum pump, but if you have no other accessories it may be enough for power brakes. It idles around 1150

[@TheBukesde]

@@PetesGarage thank you very much for that info!!!

[@camillefaubert9430]

Hey Pete, ever thought of doing a Mopar 340 they are little screamers.

[@PetesGarage]

I have a coupe guys asking, maybe I'll get one soon

[@radelarosa97]

I know this is totally off, but does anyone know what mounts I could use for a 1975 Dart (A Body) for a 440??? Been looking everywhere and everything is just 72 and down. When I do find the parts that I need it’s either “out of stock” or the website is down.

[@PetesGarage]

That's a rare part

[@tobiaswillson5900]

this engine proves that there is no need to wast money on a hemi, very nice build sir.

[@tobiaswillson5900]

excellent thats good news

[@gibbsey9579]

Yeah....But the hemi LOOKS, 100 hp stronger..

[@PetesGarage]

And if you put it in all caps HEMI adds like 3 HP

[@00buck80]

That rocked 🐴🎸🍺

[@PetesGarage]

It was awesome

[@travisbettencourt1479]

Wonder what this build cost for someone who wants to build a 440 over winter for a 65 Dart

[@PetesGarage]

With all of the machine work, maybe $7k-$10k

[@markdraper4087]

Could you list the engine specs please?

[@PetesGarage]

Email me for a list, specify iron or aluminum heads [e-mail]

[@ThePaulv12]

Why would you have a dual plane intake on a 500 cubic inch motor. What, do you need the extra bottom end torque ?

[@PetesGarage]

It looks nice

[@general23cmp]

What timing did you end up with?

[@PetesGarage]

It was around +32

[@zxtenn]

Nice results, plenty of reliable tire shredding power there

[@PetesGarage]

Killer power

[@tyhighway2127]

What three idiots thumbed this video down? You should all be flogged. Jealousy must be your problem. This was an amazing build, and done like the best professionals of all time. Congrats on your series Pete....

[@PetesGarage]

Thank you my friend. I think it's always the same three people, at least it seems pretty consitsent.

[@tyhighway2127]

@@PetesGarage ...Yes, I agree Pete...but please, continue with your incredibly interesting vids because your explanations are clear, distinct, & illuminating. Believe me, it is highly appreciated & a blessing to enjoy your careful steps to avoiding problems. I am a MOPAR man since I was 15, and find your choice of parts & explanation top notch.

[@tomcox2565]

What did that RB end up in?

[@PetesGarage]

A '69 Coronet

[@tedstigall1343]

What's the pulley system part number or make used on this project? Thanks.

[@jasont.1530]

Awesome build Pete!

[@PetesGarage]

Thanks Jason

[@keithlipford3205]

Ur a great teacher. Please do a Pontiac 400 in the future.

[@PetesGarage]

Thanks Keith, I'll try

[@waynewalleye8458]

MAN I WOULD'VE THOUGHT CLOSER TO 600HP OR SLIGHTLY OVER, DO YOU THINK AN 850 WAS BIG ENOUGH FOR A STROKER? DID YOU PLAY WITH THE TIMIMG AND WHAT DID YOU END UP WITH ALL IN?

[@PetesGarage]

There was still more HP to get, but the customer had a goal of just over 500. That's all he wanted to pay for.

[@claudiodelcastillo893]

I believe there was more power in that engine....

[@Torquemonster440]

@@claudiodelcastillo893 yes, much.. the Afr's were over 1 point lean !!.. 12.2-12.5 AFR is ideal at WOT. Nothing against Pete, if 500 is all his customer wanted .. why push it ?

[@exploranator]

@@Torquemonster440 Yup. Gotta have a policy of "a bit more than they pay for, but not a LOT more."

[@InvincibleExtremes]

Wow, amazing numbers. Something like that would kick butt in my 69 charger.

[@PetesGarage]

Let's build one for you!

[@InvincibleExtremes]

Pete's Garage one day... I already have a 440, just not a 500hp one. Once I have all the parts needed I sure wouldn't mind swinging by and saying hi though. But right now we're dealing with a baby in the hospital in San Diego with a fatal heart condition, so it's been rough...

[@PetesGarage]

My prayers are with you and your family....God bless my friend

[@animalmother6211]

I’m sure it’s already been asked.. but what was the total cost of this job minus your labor?

[@PetesGarage]

around $8k

[@exploranator]

@@PetesGarage Pretty reasonable on today's dollars. I think your power-to-dollar ratio could go higher, but at the expense of streetability. Who wants a big block that can only idle at 3000 RPM?

[@michaelrichter8973]

Nice work Pete very matriculate ,I like that kind of work,I'm an old retired mechanic I worked on heavy equipment big loaders dozers off hiway trucks etc,etc working out in the field leaves a lot to be desired try keeping stuff clean around a stone qaurry or stripmine site many a time I wished for a shop!,The company I worked for would never build us mechanics a shop but they could buy a corporate jet worth 40 million a Gulfstream if I remember right!For the life of me I never will understand the thinking of the very rich,it goes something like hooray for me but screw you!I don't miss it ,only the money as they did pay very well!

[@PetesGarage]

That sounds like a common story

[@shanedoyle677]

I just hope I have enough to push slightly over 600HP. Mabye you could give me a decent estimate being your around big HP engines frequently. I'm sitting at a stock stroke/bore (.030 clean up job) 440 steel crank,eagle rods, speed pro pistons all balanced, solid roller 660 lift 324 advertised duration with 282 duration at .050, 108 lobe separation, indy ez-1 max wedge port heads 12:1 compression, super victor manifold, 950 holley DP and a 1050 dominator I havnt used yet with 2in long tube headers and a full msd high fire ignition. Will I be disappointed hoping for 600HP??

[@PetesGarage]

I think you'll get it with the 950 Holley

[@JoseDiaz-bk9mh]

Dang, I was close. I was first to say 535 and I thought that would be the one. But congrats to the person who guessed it right with 532

[@PetesGarage]

More contests coming up, you'll hit one for sure

[@felixvillanueva2576]

I like to series I'm trying to do the same thing as you but not so expensive

[@PetesGarage]

You can build it many ways. The goal was 500 HP so I had to make sure the parts would produce.

[@mrboffo44]

Do you think coil on plug ignition would have given you anything more?

[@PetesGarage]

I use the same ignition power I use on bigger engines. The spark it pretty hot and I don't think the difference would be measurable.

[@codeyhanna767]

What was your overall cost? Fantastic job :)

[@PetesGarage]

The overall cost is up to the owner....lol. But the parts were around $10k

[@codeyhanna767]

Pete's Garage Ya my budget will be around 2k lol. I'm hoping 5k this yr for a build

[@verticlehold]

The reason the thermostat is left out is not to heat it up faster - it's so the dyno controls the engine coolant temp and not the thermostat. Note from former Chrysler dyno engineer of 13+ years :)

[@PetesGarage]

That is true, and I agree. My dyno guy has a small reservoir of water with no thermostat so it heats hp pretty quick.

[@Zero-Fox-Garage]

i guessed higher than 532 hp, but that was before I saw it being tested with the alternator, water pump and at 180 F coolant temp. The 850 didn't help anything, and either did the dual plane, but both are easy to swap out.

[@PetesGarage]

The customer had 1 goal, just go over 500 and make it streetable

[@zxtenn]

agree with the dual plane comment, I would have tried a single plane, stroker already has gobs of torque but for the street maybe customer wants more? Yes, carb with airhorn, etc... Nice strong street motor, plenty of guys run 650 cams not 550 so Pete being moderate, something over cammed is hard to live with on the street

[@AB-80X]

Not only is the engine dressed and at a real world temp, the correction factor is SAE. 532 is pretty stout. Between 570-600 hp if you compare it to the STD numbers many others use.

[@AB-80X]

@@zxtenn The 850 is very much in the right spot for this combo. You could probably get away with a 750, but 850 is pretty much spot on. As for the manifold, you are not entirely wrong. I have a 540 Wedge and tested a few manifolds, including the Edelbrock. Now normally the notion would be to run the dual plane for street, but I found that the Weiand single plane picked up power everywhere in the curve, and also found that cylinder to cylinder distribution was better. I have heard similar things from others running the old Holley single planes on the Wedges. My guess is that it has to do with the fact that a single plane normally has short runners, but due to the general design of the RB, even the single planes often have quite long runners. They kind of end up being the best of both worlds.

[@zxtenn]

@@AB-80X Many times its an educated guess and the dyno is the judge by swapping this and that, takes time and costs $$$$$ but a good motor isnt cheap anyway so its worth the extra to get max. output of a given engine and combination and living with a hugely overcammed engine isnt fun when all the real power starts at maybe 4 grand unless it's like you 540. This isn't 1968 were people take a stock GTO 400, throw on an 850 then all they get is a HUGE bog. I am 65 and had a 67 Camaro which was i built as a Yenko clone so it was a 427/425 with 456 gears and a 4 speed, that was 1975 so a typical STRONG set up for the day. 425 version had a good solid cam, 4 bolt mains, 11:1 comp. and the rect. port heads which there is STILL so much debate about VS the oval port heads. I had a buddy with a 65 GTO and he threw on an 850 with a powerglide, he thought it was fast until be brought it to the drags and barely got 15 flat. Unfortunately in those days you couldnt just order a set of DART AL heads and gain 75 hp with a good cam and manifold. Since i bought only my Camaro body with the 12 bolt i also knew someone who had an L-88 with the AL heads but that was kind of expensive so a friend found me the 427/425 which came from a late 60's Impala, it had a spun rod bearing, stock bore, etc. I miss the looks my 67 RS with the L-88 hood, 8 quart pan hanging down scattershield and front spoiler, looked and was intimidating

[@whirlwind8825]

Hi Pete. I have a engine I want to prime with oil in a car sitting for some time. I want to know if it is possible to do it through the oil filter center pipe without removing the distributor . Clear 1 1/8" tube ....6 feet long..... clamped to oil tube with filter removed .. Fill tube with oil and put compressor fitting on end of tube . Then use air pressure to drive oil into engine oil galleries . Like this prnt.sc/sodrrt What do you think?

[@PetesGarage]

That looks like it's worth a try

[@chevy6299]

Lots of HP at a reasonable RPM and all that torque, your tires will not stand a chance. =)

[@PetesGarage]

lol....not my tires!

[@ziggassedup]

Nice.

[@zxtenn]

Nice strong street engine,,,someone going to have a low 12, high 11 second Super Bee with plenty of traction naturally, I think a BBC would make about a 100 more though...….. Did you or the owner think of a single plane intake? I see you used a 'basic' carb with the airhorn intact HOPE YOU GOT THE 'ISSUE' WITH SOMEONE STEALING YOUR CHANNEL NAME RESOLVED? I watched your entire series and enjoyed it, in particular the casting differences, 'Performance Engine Rebuilding' can get 650 from a 496 BBC, he has a series where he explains the head casting's, which head is a better choice and the 'good' port and 'bad' port scenario, you can make the cast heads perform with the proper work and naturally time

[@PetesGarage]

Thanks Jim....I'm still looking to the channel name issue. It's not as easy as you'd think. I'll look into that channel thanks.

[@sawdust613]

456 hp?

[@blueneko333]

Thars all there is to these engines?? Well ive got a block, heads and guess its time to take it to the machine shop and find the rest

[@PetesGarage]

Yup, pretty simple

[@deanmoser5907]

At least you had accessories hooked up and run 180 degrees.

[@PetesGarage]

I usually do

[@jasonclements1978]

429hp 523 torque

[@PetesGarage]

Close

[@AustrianAnarchy]

YEA!

[@PetesGarage]

Good job my friend, sweatshirt on the way

[@AustrianAnarchy]

Shirt arrived today! AWESOME! Thank you again!

[@PetesGarage]

Just in time for the winter weather

[@bradleyschrier]

Total cost?

[@PetesGarage]

It was around $10k

[@paulshain5243]

@@PetesGarage Was that figure about half in labor cost? Just wondering total parts price. Love the videos, watched others and learned what not to do. Thank you!

[@vivalosdoors]

That intake and carb is choking that motor. With that big of cam and those great flowing heads that motor need a victor jr intake and at least a 950 if not a 1050 dominator. There is alot more power in that motor

[@PetesGarage]

Perhaps, but the goal was just over 500 HP and streetable, not as much as possible.

[@AB-80X]

Really? So you don't think an 850 will do? Interesting. I have made over 1100 hp with a 1050. Trust me, an 850 is perfect. As for single planes, sure, why not. But the correct one to use would be the Weiand or Trick Flow, not the Vic Jr.

[@rileyqissentell1647]

I'm from knoxville tennessee lol

[@PetesGarage]

That's a nice area.

[@jeffleblanc8850]

I said 525 and I never looked at nothing till now just for fun I was close

[@PetesGarage]

You were so close

[@sebdupree1]

1:11

[@Fritsvrolijk]

price off the motor Pete

[@PetesGarage]

parts were about $10k

[@dominicdaley5702]

1st!!!

[@PetesGarage]

Woo Hoo... t-shirt?

[@cobyporschifer221]

M.A.S.T ENGINE NEW CRATE MOTOR HP=550 ☆☆☆ $15,000 (KEEP YOUR MOTOR)

[@AB-80X]

You are not very well informed, are you? Let's look at how Mast test their motors. First off, they used STD, not SAE. Second of all, they STEP test, which adds about 10-15 numbers easily. Third of all they run temps in the 120-130 range. If you dressed a Mast 550 hp motor and tested it like this, you are probably looking at 490-500 hp. Have a nice day.

[@dinadaughtry8993]

$15000.00 could build a 650+HP 440 that would be pump gas friendly and have enough left to buy the ole lady something nice so she doesn't kill you for spending 15grand on a hotrod!

[@johnadams9044]

Don't believe it.

[@PetesGarage]

Believe it

[@chadhaire1711]

A stock 440-6 has 390 hp gross on a bench but was only 325 NET hp in the car....if this is 530 on a bench it drops to about 430 net in the car......any Dodge 2021 SRT will smoke it.

[@PetesGarage]

Interesting

[@Vinicius-xm3cy]

Are you seriale comparing a Supercharged engine with a naturally aspirated one?

[@chadhaire1711]

@@Vinicius-xm3cy The SRT 425 and 485 are not supercharged Gomer.

[@Vinicius-xm3cy]

@@chadhaire1711 both the 425 and the 485 make those numbers at the crank not at the wheel goomer, the only stock srt's how can Challenge this engine are the superchaged ones.

[@exploranator]

@@Vinicius-xm3cy I saw a bone stock Hellcat do 605 to the rear tires.

[@danuw3lls]

Something is wrong with this combo.

[@PetesGarage]

The goal was to get just over 500HP.

[@AB-80X]

What is wrong with it?