Best Ceramic & UHMWPE Level III & IV Body Armor: Mira, RTS, RMA, Spartan, LAPG

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Pew Pew Tactical

Pew Pew Tactical

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@pewpewtactical
@pewpewtactical 3 жыл бұрын
BUT MUH SCIENCE 😭
@RedBeardWalking
@RedBeardWalking 3 жыл бұрын
Please keep doing what you do. Much love
@cuntdracula1
@cuntdracula1 3 жыл бұрын
MY HECKIN SCIENCERINO CANT BE DEFEATED BY GUN CHUDS! NOOOOOOO
@kevinjohnson3925
@kevinjohnson3925 3 жыл бұрын
Shot stop please
@dayontapout
@dayontapout 3 жыл бұрын
Sooooo what if you stack a level 3 steel plate behind the level 4 ceramic plate with a trauma pad behind it all?
@PolynesianSaus
@PolynesianSaus 3 жыл бұрын
@@dayontapout you’ll be over encumbered.
@BuffRANGE
@BuffRANGE 3 жыл бұрын
The actual NIJ doesn't test plates. They rely on third party labs to perform all testing. Whether you are testing for "NIJ Compliance/Certification" or just seeing if the materials you assembled will pass the threat assessment you hoped it would. NIJ compliance/certification ends up being more of a paper trail/auditing check to ensure you as the manufacturer are able to document every bit of the supply chain process for your raw materials, so that your plate as tested will perform the same when Follow up Inspection Testing (FIT) is done by the NIJ.
@AbsolutionArmament
@AbsolutionArmament 3 жыл бұрын
I love the fact you are here.
@TacticonArmament
@TacticonArmament Жыл бұрын
Amen to that... thanks for reinforcing the facts my friend.
@waterishdrake8693
@waterishdrake8693 10 ай бұрын
Don’t like his comment!! You gonna take a jab at him like! He’s a real 1!!
@BuffRANGE
@BuffRANGE 3 жыл бұрын
Just for clarification, the ballistic core/strike face, face towards enemy is generally the alumina part, with the PE/UHMWPE material as the backer for that :D
@AbsolutionArmament
@AbsolutionArmament 3 жыл бұрын
I love the fact you are here.
@seanmuehlhauser9612
@seanmuehlhauser9612 2 жыл бұрын
Did they test one backwards?
@BuffRANGE
@BuffRANGE 2 жыл бұрын
@@seanmuehlhauser9612 I don't think so?
@Bootbandwarlord
@Bootbandwarlord 3 жыл бұрын
Fudds on ranges - “Don’t shoot steel closer than 100m out so you don’t catch shrapnel.” Also fudds - “Just bought some AR500 body armor to strap to myself!”
@calebalcime9090
@calebalcime9090 3 жыл бұрын
Ahh this is funny 😂
@youmustvotenato
@youmustvotenato 2 жыл бұрын
Just wear a surplus flak jacket over your steel plates. Gtg
@hotheadedfilmshhf6734
@hotheadedfilmshhf6734 2 жыл бұрын
@@youmustvotenato sounds heavy asf😂
@WeaponizedAutismiii
@WeaponizedAutismiii 2 жыл бұрын
I got my truck liner on it, I'm good
@UncleDon226
@UncleDon226 2 жыл бұрын
The shrapnel just means it stopped the round. Another W for the steel armor.
@RenoMay
@RenoMay 3 жыл бұрын
Nice thing about NIJ certification in my opinion is that you can rely on science nerds and not gun nerds.
@RedMatthew
@RedMatthew 3 жыл бұрын
The only difference between a scientist and a bunch of idiots f****** around is that the scientist writes stuff down and drink less beer
@nemisous83
@nemisous83 3 жыл бұрын
problem with NIJ certification is its become largely a meme and down right disingenuous how many companies stamp "NIJ certified" without ever sending the plate in to be evaluated so gun nerds are really the only way to separate the wheat from the chaff.
@RenoMay
@RenoMay 3 жыл бұрын
@@nemisous83 not true at all. You can look at the list on the nij website. If the company says “nij TESTED” it’s not the same
@nemisous83
@nemisous83 3 жыл бұрын
@@RenoMay again its basically deceptive marketing, however i think this more or less calls into the question the NIJ test standards that a LV 4 plate cant survive 2 rounds of M80 in close proximity however a shitty LV 3 steel plate can eat 5 M80 rounds stacked on top of each other.
@JohnSmith-bf1sq
@JohnSmith-bf1sq 3 жыл бұрын
@@nemisous83 that just comes down to material properties, not the standardized test. A level 3 ceramic wont stop stuff like a level 3 steel will that isnt a testing fault it is just different materials. Steel plates can be stupid dangerous when hit more than once due to the spalling cutting into throats and legs.
@JohnnyAppalachia
@JohnnyAppalachia 3 жыл бұрын
Anecdotal Hee Haw Testing. I'm in.
@project86xero
@project86xero 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to Chipotle.
@Stoney_AKA_James
@Stoney_AKA_James 3 жыл бұрын
Good test guys! I switched from RMA Level IV plates after my P.C. fell onto concrete and fractured last year. Knowing that 30-06 A.P. rounds are uncommon, I switched to ShotStop Ballistics Duritium GT2 Level III+ plates, and so far so good!!
@BuffRANGE
@BuffRANGE 3 жыл бұрын
How do you know they fractured. Did you have them X-ray'd or perform a torque test? That ceramic strike face is .390" thick and would require a LOT of force to crack
@Stoney_AKA_James
@Stoney_AKA_James 3 жыл бұрын
@@BuffRANGE Yes, I had them x-rayed, but a crumbling corner was pretty good indication that they were compromised
@BuffRANGE
@BuffRANGE 3 жыл бұрын
@@Stoney_AKA_James wow that’s a rare instance. Did you contact them?
@Stoney_AKA_James
@Stoney_AKA_James 3 жыл бұрын
@@BuffRANGE No, because my P.C. fail from about 5 feet onto concrete and it was my fault. I cannot NOT blame RMA, ceramic composites can brake. Again it was my fault, and I took responsibility.
@BuffRANGE
@BuffRANGE 3 жыл бұрын
@@Stoney_AKA_James Wow that must have been a precise hit to do that. the 1155 has a foam edge protectant on the strike face.
@ACOJV214TX
@ACOJV214TX 3 жыл бұрын
It would’ve been nice to see the hesco l210 tested. Good job.
@NPS69
@NPS69 3 жыл бұрын
The L210 is capable of a lot more than it's rated for with a kevlar backer too, I want to see someone get a few and really push them hard.
@ACGBLR
@ACGBLR 3 жыл бұрын
Hesco has the most failed follow up tests from the NIJ, stay away.
@ryennino5470
@ryennino5470 9 ай бұрын
in the two years since this video prices on all these plates has gone way up some almost doubled
@joelerk6298
@joelerk6298 3 жыл бұрын
I thought steal armour was great. Until I found out straping hand grenades to my Plate carrier also works
@yakivpopavich
@yakivpopavich 3 жыл бұрын
I thought Ceramic armor was great. Then Hescoe and LAPG and all other companies stated it had a mere 5 year shelf life. " The materials the plates are composed of will deteriorate and degrade overtime, eventually compromising the overall security of the plate as a whole " - Hescoe Customer Service If your in Law Enforcement or the Military, go Ceramic for sure!. Better for extended duty use and also Uncle Sam will replace your plates!.
@nostep8058
@nostep8058 3 жыл бұрын
@@yakivpopavich rma has a 10 year shelf life
@HowardLuken
@HowardLuken 2 жыл бұрын
Shotstop has a 10-year warranty but that may just be marketing because I'm guessing so far nobody's got shot within that 10 years on one of their plates. I bought them anyway.
@averageusercommenter199
@averageusercommenter199 2 жыл бұрын
No Hesco, Premier, or Safelife body armor? All the same thank you SOOOOOO MUCH for testing the armor you DID test on an actual ballistic dummy. VERY MUCH APPRECIATED!
@tillerzeit
@tillerzeit 3 жыл бұрын
This new episode of back blown out was surprisingly educational
@Aslowman
@Aslowman 3 жыл бұрын
Beard wizard gives much words about break anti ouch hards.
@blitzy8221
@blitzy8221 3 жыл бұрын
Great testing! My only gripe is that you used 7.62x39 Hollow Points instead of just regular 7.62x39 FMJ , FMJ would honestly been a better test round overall.
@nnerrfman6326
@nnerrfman6326 3 жыл бұрын
You're correct, but it's not that much of a difference. 7.62x39 is just too slow to penetrate armor very well.
@robreadinger5340
@robreadinger5340 2 жыл бұрын
@@nnerrfman6326 unless AP ...which cough cough illegal in usa
@ascotfive
@ascotfive 2 жыл бұрын
@@robreadinger5340 *illegal for import and subject to your state. They're legal in GA just not for import
@BlazingGunner
@BlazingGunner 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the testing, I have the RMA level 4 plates.
@BlazingGunner
@BlazingGunner 3 жыл бұрын
@Suck it Google Thanks No Milk?
@MeanestManAlive
@MeanestManAlive 3 жыл бұрын
@@BlazingGunner Your mother took it all first. I have RMA too.
@byronnelson1556
@byronnelson1556 2 жыл бұрын
Another test. It’s good to se a variety of tests. W E found the shrapnel part just in our bullet back stop so there seems to some kind of protection for this needed. Almost like a belt 360 degrees around the armor. I guess it would be ok to get so cuts and injuries Soave lives. This test was pretty good compared to other tests. The kinetic energy effect might be worth thinking about. Thank for the effort.
@ethan5.56
@ethan5.56 3 жыл бұрын
The LAPG plates totally do smell like new shoes lmao
@Legalizeasbestos
@Legalizeasbestos 3 жыл бұрын
Personally I’m surprised they didn’t use 5.56 M193 (NOT the XM193 they did use) out of a 20 inch barrel because as far as I’ve seen that’s actually been the most dangerous in armor tests. M855 gets outclassed by it because the M193 goes so damn fast.
@BuffRANGE
@BuffRANGE 3 жыл бұрын
XM/M 193 designation doesn’t matter as much as chronoing then and ensuring they are delivering max velocity. IMI M193 is one of the few that make legit M193.
@MagicPrepper
@MagicPrepper 3 жыл бұрын
Although the test wasn't the most impressive, I had to go with LAPG lvl IV plates as they offer them in the 11x14 sizing where MIRA and RMA currently do not. Sucks to be tall.
@Monztuh
@Monztuh 2 жыл бұрын
How do you like them bro? I just ordered 2 of the level 4 ballistic plates with their atlas carrier for like $367 with 7 day shipping and a 10% off coupon
@wildman473
@wildman473 2 жыл бұрын
@@Monztuh how did you like your armor? I was debating that and never saw level 4 11x14 size too
@gregzapata2537
@gregzapata2537 2 жыл бұрын
It’s been a year since you commented this, any update on you LAPG plates
@ConditionZero
@ConditionZero Жыл бұрын
@@gregzapata2537 the LAPG plates aren’t as bad as this video makes them out to be. If In a carrier, the ceramic stays put.
@ArmedAtlas
@ArmedAtlas 3 жыл бұрын
Ima be honest, I get excited when PPT drops another banger.
@pewpewtactical
@pewpewtactical 3 жыл бұрын
💕
@kasper_429
@kasper_429 3 жыл бұрын
Idk why but I laughed every time you said UHMWPE as a word. "Ummwippa" 🤣
@erstepa1
@erstepa1 3 жыл бұрын
Is it weird that I get excited when I see your face on my recommended videos?????
@patwalsh2868
@patwalsh2868 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks John, I’m in the process of learning all I can pick up from real people testers like you guys are !!! Thanks Buddy you made a good informative video , that gave me good information to have before I make my purchase !!! Tough decisions when the plates n prices differ strangely !!! Thanks again, I enjoyed your video !!✌️😉😷💥🔫
@BuffRANGE
@BuffRANGE 3 жыл бұрын
Can you tell me if the MIRA has a nice foam ring on it like the LAPG and RTS?
@rileyhewson5915
@rileyhewson5915 2 жыл бұрын
They do, but it doesnt negate any ceramic around the edges. Its still 10x12 which is nice that its not all just foam and essentially becomes a 8x10 plate
@BuffRANGE
@BuffRANGE 2 жыл бұрын
@@rileyhewson5915 I’ve been told the Mira plate has a foam ring and a 10x12 is more like a 8x10.
@Mrgunsngear
@Mrgunsngear 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@DesertTactical
@DesertTactical Жыл бұрын
Thorough video. Doing my homework on ceramic plates.
@cmorin522
@cmorin522 3 жыл бұрын
Do you think you could do a video on ar500 steel armor and have it at a slight angle like if you had a beer gut I'm curious to see if the bullet would Ricochet into the head or neck area or if the plate would stop it
@bkackmagic555
@bkackmagic555 3 жыл бұрын
Bulletsafe already tested that. Ar500 is horrible armor and should never be purchased.
@kilowatt9598
@kilowatt9598 3 жыл бұрын
Put those plates where they belong, on a target stand and buy some Hesco L210 plates
@yakivpopavich
@yakivpopavich 3 жыл бұрын
​@@kilowatt9598 Some deals are around $400 for a set them. Not bad at all, if it was not for the expiration of Ceramic I'd purchase another set!. For now I'm gonna be cheap and stick with the LAPG's. I just wish they came in 11x14.
@kilowatt9598
@kilowatt9598 3 жыл бұрын
@@yakivpopavich how much is your life worth?
@yakivpopavich
@yakivpopavich 3 жыл бұрын
@@kilowatt9598 Not worth paying for overpriced Hesco's. I'm a civilian buying for SHTF. Not a US Marine pal.
@williamcollins136
@williamcollins136 3 жыл бұрын
Remember your plate carrier carries your plates and like anything made to carrier something as long as the carrier doesn’t blow open you would be able to hopefully maybe and possibly maintain your ceramic fragments a couple of layers out duct tape couldn’t hurt but as always any protection is better then none.
@exposed445
@exposed445 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'd like to see the armor with a pc strapped to gel buddy.
@SolidSnake_1776
@SolidSnake_1776 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to see this test with plates in plate carriers. I'm sure that would add significant cost and time but i'm wondering how much of the material is kept in place by a plate carrier. Also I know hesco plates are expensive but i'd like to know how they stack up. Is the price worth it?
@jimmymartino5433
@jimmymartino5433 3 жыл бұрын
Based off what I hear, they’re worth their weight in gold
@hjorturerlend
@hjorturerlend 3 жыл бұрын
I'd say no, as backface deformation against the torso is kind of a meme and entirely negated by a cheap aramid backer if you're actually concerned about it.
@hudistactical4319
@hudistactical4319 3 жыл бұрын
When you see the fragments flying out, most of it will come through plate carriers like butter. We did noticed that when testing our own plates thats why we're starting to add spall plates to our products. You can take a look at our videos.
@yakivpopavich
@yakivpopavich 3 жыл бұрын
@@hjorturerlend Is that like an extra thick trauma pad?. Some of the backface deformation I have seen from M855 and high grain 308 loads on IV ceramic literally protrudes 3-5 sometimes more inches. I feel like Trauma Pad or Kevlar Composite won't exactly stop your ribs and or lungs from being caved in with some of the heavier rounds on Ceramic.
@hjorturerlend
@hjorturerlend 3 жыл бұрын
@@yakivpopavich 60mm of backface deformation is considered acceptable for the US Army, they don't consider it very important after being shot at for 20 years in the Middle East. The torso is pretty good at receiving blunt force trauma. And yes a kevlar backer will significantly reduce even heavy backface deformation.
@hwi7114
@hwi7114 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting results on the LAPG level 3 plate, Mrgunsngear shot it with black tip as well and it didn't go through. Still, not bad for the cost.
@BuffRANGE
@BuffRANGE 3 жыл бұрын
Surplus M2ap depending on condition can be anywhere from 2500-2700 FPS. Well under the 2880 FPS needed. That’s why i moved my m2ap to 300WM
@RammaJamma3
@RammaJamma3 Жыл бұрын
They shot the black tip to close to the destroyed green tip whole. Fresh hit lapg 3 stops black tip every time I’ve seen it and done it myself. Here is thing to remember u are more likely get beat up behind the wood shed by Joe Biden than get hit by black tip. And if you stand there and get shot 10 times in the chest u need to die
@Chuck_Stick
@Chuck_Stick 3 жыл бұрын
I'd really like to see you fellers abuse some Tactical Scorpion LVL 3+ Extreme.
@bkackmagic555
@bkackmagic555 3 жыл бұрын
Don't wear steel yall. Even with the build up coat. It can be penned by m855a1 from a 14 incher and m193 from a 20 incher. Level 3 plus is stronger but it will spall. If you have a slight gut and you're not flat as hell like the target the spall is gonna fly into your face. Even if you're that flat the build up coat won't last long. Don't play on getting shot 10 times and sitting still.
@NavySooner
@NavySooner 3 жыл бұрын
Probably my favorite pew pew video
@Stormclowe
@Stormclowe 3 жыл бұрын
How much of that ceramic and other filling would reasonably come out when the plates are in place in a proper carrier? That's, I think, at least somewhat of a factor.
@thatoneguy454c
@thatoneguy454c 2 жыл бұрын
That is kind of nuts considering that the $100 level 4 plates from botach stop black tip 30-06 and I have seen many videos of them stopping ridiculous amounts of 5.56 even after the ceramic is pulverized. Not every plate is created equal I suppose.
@justinbellamy3017
@justinbellamy3017 Жыл бұрын
Keep supporting those spy balloons homie
@kasper_429
@kasper_429 3 жыл бұрын
If y'all ever do another armor test in the future, I would love to see some Hesco plates in the mix. I've been looking at getting the L210 "Special Threat" plates, but can't find literally any videos of them being shot tested in real world conditions (i.e. outside of the extremely sterile and protocol-oriented NIJ lab).
@VietNguyen-co2hz
@VietNguyen-co2hz 3 жыл бұрын
I was researching about L210 hesco plate, just giving you a head’s up, it is not nij certified and it won’t stop 308, 7.62x51
@BuffRANGE
@BuffRANGE 3 жыл бұрын
Video will be live on my channel next Tuesday for L210
@Furiouspenguin27
@Furiouspenguin27 Жыл бұрын
There’s no point unless you’re in a city and don’t expect .308 rifles to be around
@thenkk4914
@thenkk4914 3 жыл бұрын
I bought level III+ plates from ar500 and a gas mask for shits and giggles last December right before everything went to shit, and everyone called me crazy... until March
@joelerk6298
@joelerk6298 3 жыл бұрын
DONT EVER USE STEAL ARMOUR unless you have Kevlar inserts
@IC67204
@IC67204 3 жыл бұрын
@@joelerk6298 don’t even use it with the Kevlar tbh
@bkackmagic555
@bkackmagic555 3 жыл бұрын
Don't use it. Steel bad
@thenkk4914
@thenkk4914 3 жыл бұрын
@@bkackmagic555 I know, spalling can slide shrapnel into the jugular. I bought it for shits and giggles. The carrier itself is fairly comfortable though, the ar500 vertus I think.
@yakivpopavich
@yakivpopavich 3 жыл бұрын
@@thenkk4914 Don't read too much into what people on Reddit and KZbin have to say regarding Steel Armor. Here is the honest take. Spall is a serious issue with AR500 Armor , and it can be negated via doing two things - Built Up Fraglock Coat at Purchase - Use high quality external spall liner If you layer the spall liner ballistic material bag ontop of your already coated plate, you will be fine. And yes Steel is heavier than Ceramic, however if your not out of shape and or straight up morbidly obese, your carrier weighing 22 pounds instead of 12 won't make that big of a difference. If you are not in Law Enforcement or the Military, don't get too caught up in the world of Armor and Plates. Get yourself a set and forget it. Despite what you will be bombarded with on the internet buying any type of armor is a good idea. Especially in the current cultural, social and political climate. Stay safe and have fun!.
@rileyhewson5915
@rileyhewson5915 2 жыл бұрын
Ngl, I find it kinda ironic that a CBRN Equipment Company made a plate that did noticeably better than all the others made by Armor Manufactures, especially while being lighter, thinner, and more cost effective while providing a 10 year warranty
@devon9822
@devon9822 3 жыл бұрын
Some say the backing track loop in this video gets played in hell.
@MilGrip76
@MilGrip76 8 ай бұрын
Ceramic atop aramid is a hard to beat combo. Weight is reasonable too.
@Matt-co9rn
@Matt-co9rn 3 жыл бұрын
Funny + interesting means you get a like. Great video.
@28_babyshark
@28_babyshark 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks for all the information
@20DYNAMITE06
@20DYNAMITE06 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how the level IV would have done inside a plate carrier? I would think the outer pocket would have helped keep the ceramic in place a bit?
@boopy123
@boopy123 Жыл бұрын
yeah it probably will if there's isn't a lot of wiggle room for the plate.
@FishHuntFreedom
@FishHuntFreedom 3 жыл бұрын
You had me at the mocking of the “overlords” 😂
@Megames2012
@Megames2012 3 жыл бұрын
You should compare the 3/3+ UHMWPE/lightweight plates to a Caliber Armor level 3+ steel plate with their build up coating.
@GM-ln7te
@GM-ln7te 2 жыл бұрын
The problem is that the plates are not in a carrier. I have watched Mr. Guns and Gear test the LAPG level 3 that survived the 30.06 black tip. Also, I am not gonna stand there and let someone shoot me multiple times. If they use a full auto and it's my time then it's my time. Don't think 30.06 black tip is gonna be a big issue in SHTF/TEOTWAWKI
@brandensalinas1256
@brandensalinas1256 Жыл бұрын
Collab with the slow-mo guys would be bad ass
@kingofshrimp
@kingofshrimp 2 жыл бұрын
M80 is badass. I’m glad I got a stash before the pandemic
@rickypickles2219
@rickypickles2219 3 жыл бұрын
LA police gear lvl 3s are actually super nice. not crazy expensive either but theyll stop 308 and 556 green tips. a few times before they start pulling through tht broken ceramic
@gregzapata2537
@gregzapata2537 2 жыл бұрын
Would you take LAPG over RMA?
@rickypickles2219
@rickypickles2219 2 жыл бұрын
@@gregzapata2537 honestly no. Just because rma is reputable and nij certified on their plates except the super lightweight lvl4s. I run highcom lvl 4s with soft 3a backers. Nij cert and like 6lb a side. Rma are good but super heavy. Eventually im getting the hesco lv4800
@zacksovine6923
@zacksovine6923 Жыл бұрын
You can't say that for about $100 saving money and buying level III from LA police gear then placing it in a carrier with a soft IIIA backer wouldn't be effective for anything most would ever have to face except for head shots and a rare .50 BMG.
@turnitdowntyler
@turnitdowntyler 3 жыл бұрын
For the price I paid for the LAPG's, i'll take the performance lol. But my Hesco's are my go to.
@lone_wolf_survival
@lone_wolf_survival 3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see this testing done to a agilite level 4 before I spend 2k on them
@flyoverkid55
@flyoverkid55 3 жыл бұрын
Lesson learned: Don't be a cheapskate when it comes to things that you use to protect life and limb. I don't own a boat, RV, jet ski, etc. But my body armor is tight.
@NPS69
@NPS69 3 жыл бұрын
You don't even have to spend a ton, you can get legit level 4 plates for about $160 a piece. Or L210s for even less.
@thomasmcozart1093
@thomasmcozart1093 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this interesting data
@thecelestialworld6934
@thecelestialworld6934 2 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to do these tests with Dayton armor level 4’s, defenders lvl 4 and shot stop lol?? Especially daytons lol. Supposed to be lvl 4 at 1.3lbs
@HowardLuken
@HowardLuken 2 жыл бұрын
I asked the same question. But that Dayton armor plate that tactical rifleman shot at that was only a pound and a quarter was not a real tactical vest style plate. It was a light plate meant to be put in your kid's backpack. I looked at the Dayton armor site and it looks like some 10-year-old put it together with almost no information. Their actual tactical plates are a good deal heavier.
@akmarksman
@akmarksman 3 жыл бұрын
woo! RMA 1155 for the win. It's what I have in my plate carrier because Alaska.
@mikeyb.3306
@mikeyb.3306 3 жыл бұрын
my opinion, if youre taking "hunting rounds" its safe to say they wont be aiming center mass anyways hahaha
@Freezer003
@Freezer003 Жыл бұрын
I've long thought this. There's plenty of 22-250's and 300 win mags around here. I'd like to see a level four plate take a round at 4000 fps
@Z33Garage
@Z33Garage 3 жыл бұрын
Sad to not see Hesco 4401s
@slevinkelevra8696
@slevinkelevra8696 9 ай бұрын
4:21 the best italian armor plate in the world 😂😂
@Dangler83
@Dangler83 Жыл бұрын
I wish these test were done in a plate carrier to see how they will actually perform.
@Dero_milsurp
@Dero_milsurp Жыл бұрын
Plate carriers do literally nothing to mitigate penetration lol
@Dangler83
@Dangler83 Жыл бұрын
@@Dero_milsurp no shit Sherlock, but people typically run loaded mags and other items on their plate carrier. I would like to see how pistol rounds are affect with the addition of other items on the carrier...I'm sure rifle rounds wouldn't be all that affect, but that's an assumption. Sorry i wasn't descriptive enough chief.
@kraigmiller8027
@kraigmiller8027 2 жыл бұрын
You mean to tell me the level 3 LAPG plate did better then their level 4 plate did?
@lighlotus117
@lighlotus117 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like, of the tested plates, for Lvl 4 the only ones worth your while are RMA or Mira. Obviously in a pinch anything is better than nothing. When it comes to staying in the fight, if you plan on tanking multiple rounds, steel 3+ might be the best option. Unless you're up against opposition with high level AP ammo. Longest life best multi hit and can be "light." Also not so sensitive to environmental factors or being dropped. I was surprised how M80 chunked most of those Lvl 4s. M80 is pretty common. As is 193 and 855 and might be safe to say is coming out of 16 in barrels for the most part. 30-06 AP not so much.
@bkackmagic555
@bkackmagic555 3 жыл бұрын
Incorrect. You won't take anymore rounds. That horrible bed liner that is already bad will be totally gone and you'll end up with spall in your arms, throat, and face
@lighlotus117
@lighlotus117 3 жыл бұрын
@@bkackmagic555 depends on the type and amount of buildup as seen in their previous armor test. Carrier also has an effect on the amount of shrapnel reaching you as well. No one wants to take a round. But I'd prefer a chance of some shrap hitting me vs a round in my vitals. You aren't wrong. Some coating on plates is useless and blows out on first hit. A bunch of scrap to the chin could be a game over. To each their own as with all things. The point of the first comment is that steel will take(stop) more rounds and is more "durable" and has longer life. 3+ also will stop most of the rounds out there. That is to say the rounds one would be most likely to come across. Take it easy, baby. Stay safe.
@bkackmagic555
@bkackmagic555 3 жыл бұрын
@@lighlotus117 the carrier will stop spalll that wasn't lethal. It isn't stopping spall moving at 1000fps and up for example. That stuff is going to mess you up good. Plus again. Why are you getting shot that many times. You're larping or you're already dead anyway. You'd be down or domed at that point. No ones gonna keep shooting your chest like it's a movie
@lighlotus117
@lighlotus117 3 жыл бұрын
@@bkackmagic555 I said, "if you plan on taking multiple rounds." You're goal is to not get shot at (or hit) at all. Shit happens. Why do companies make multi-hit plates? No you're not gonna gonna stand there and tank rounds like it's an 80's action film. No one thinks that relax. Fact remains: Steel will take more impacts(except AP.) Steel isn't sensitive to environment. Steel is drop safe. Build up quality and amount affects shrapnel reaching you. Carrier construction affects amount of shrapnel reaching you. This is will be my last transmission. Godspeed, Vault Boy.
@sleeplessgamingct4227
@sleeplessgamingct4227 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder how much less "blowout" there would be with the plates inside a plate carrier.
@ConditionZero
@ConditionZero Жыл бұрын
With a quality plate carrier using quality material, highly doubt any would “bounce” out. Especially with the plates fitting tightly inside the carrier.
@prodigypenn
@prodigypenn 3 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly M193 penetrates level 3 steel only out of a 20" or longer barrel, should have tested a 308 in that first armor too just to see if it stops. I know differences in material and barrel lengths can have different effects on armor, would have liked to seen that
@BuffRANGE
@BuffRANGE 3 жыл бұрын
M193 will penetrate steel when it's velocity exceeds 3150 fps depending on the hardness of steel. Real M193 is doing 3200+ from 16" :D
@prodigypenn
@prodigypenn 3 жыл бұрын
@@BuffRANGE so milsurp ammo can but not the stuff I get from the local shop?
@BuffRANGE
@BuffRANGE 3 жыл бұрын
@@prodigypenn All depends on the "stuff". IMI, Independence, and Lake City offerings specifically marked "5.56x45mm" would do it. That's the primary reason I test a lot of ammo on my channel, because you'll find quite a few statements on those ammo boxes grossly overstate their performance :D
@MrShadow1995.
@MrShadow1995. Жыл бұрын
How come i dont see any tests with shellback tactical level 4s on youtube?
@3nertia
@3nertia 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't test Guard Dog? *sweats nervously*
@donaldschumacher3683
@donaldschumacher3683 2 жыл бұрын
My big question is aren't the plates supposed to be in a carrier. I have never seen a test to see how much a carrier helps in the protection.
@ConditionZero
@ConditionZero Жыл бұрын
A quality fitting carrier would help mitigate all that ceramic coming free. It would help hold it in place thus helping the plate survive more hits in the same area.
@MLinktheprophet
@MLinktheprophet Жыл бұрын
Please do a video on tacticon srt plates
@rlm2010az
@rlm2010az Жыл бұрын
Great video
@m.7n6
@m.7n6 Жыл бұрын
This exactly why I chose to spend more money on silicon carbide level iv plates
@apb5866
@apb5866 3 жыл бұрын
Are the level IV plates made to be worn by themselves or with level III?
@Ceyx000
@Ceyx000 2 жыл бұрын
By themselves, with trauma pad, or soft armor underneath. Depends on how much you want to carry.
@TipTop_171
@TipTop_171 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video
@stephenerpelding819
@stephenerpelding819 2 ай бұрын
I can improve the Bullet Resistance of Ceramic and Compressed Kevlar Plates (from Nothin Fancy?)
@squirreltakular9049
@squirreltakular9049 3 жыл бұрын
If y'all have the cash, it would be great to see tests on higher-end ceramics like Hesco, Velocity, AT Armor, etc.
@sa-amirel-hayeed699
@sa-amirel-hayeed699 3 жыл бұрын
How about putting the plates in a plate carrier? I just bought level 4 ceramic plates with PE but the PE is in front of the strike face.
@packet-burner
@packet-burner 3 жыл бұрын
What plates did you get that have the PE on the front??
@Wonderboy205
@Wonderboy205 2 жыл бұрын
Just purchased the RTS Level IV ceramic plates. Anyone have any experience with them? With the lack of NIJ certification and all.
@rybaneightsix5085
@rybaneightsix5085 Жыл бұрын
Video starts at 6:15
@tyronejackson6593
@tyronejackson6593 Жыл бұрын
I feel like armor tests should be somewhere in between the two. I agree that doing 6 shots perfectly spaced to split the plate perfectly isn’t the right way because you are doing a “best case scenario” test. But also, punching multiple rounds into the same hole isn’t realistic either. Worst case scenario for sure. Good info to have but I feel like maybe just standing at X distance and shooting a plate like you would shoot a drill makes most sense. Even at CQB distances the chances you get hit in the same spot during a gunfight is pretty damn low.
@EddieTurner-rk4of
@EddieTurner-rk4of 10 ай бұрын
But it comes with rounds that make cars butter.. I wanna hear your take on a Public Defender judge.. we we need you to link up with the mythbusters
@johncheatham6616
@johncheatham6616 2 жыл бұрын
Real Testing
@nyogtheeldritchgentleman
@nyogtheeldritchgentleman 2 жыл бұрын
Are there any reviews for AR500 C2 plates?
@bizzlebeedizzle3910
@bizzlebeedizzle3910 3 жыл бұрын
His sarcasm 🤣
@MrTopflight29
@MrTopflight29 3 жыл бұрын
My gripe is if you’re wearing armor are you going to stand around after be shot once? While serving in Iraq I have friend that was hit dead center of he vest by 7.62x39 knocking him on his ass. Sure quick follow up shots are possible but I’m sure not going to be sticking around for the follow up.
@Brimwald
@Brimwald 3 жыл бұрын
Room clearing would be more likely to get hit multiple times which is common for mil, pd, and even civis doing home defense
@b_doc6142
@b_doc6142 Жыл бұрын
I’m glad they replaced him. He cared more about showing off his arms at the range them putting out good non-annoying content
@EddieTurner-rk4of
@EddieTurner-rk4of 10 ай бұрын
I rock a judge 410 on me you know what I mean and I need to know where the limit is on this thing because it has a lot of different rounds and they're all Overkill
@TheWeekendShooter308
@TheWeekendShooter308 3 жыл бұрын
All those those thousands of dollars spent on plates and yall couldn't get 1 plate carrier? Hahaha
@ParanormalNODS
@ParanormalNODS 3 жыл бұрын
So, knowing all this am I screwed if all I have are hesco L210s?
@cc-vg4ed
@cc-vg4ed 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Another youtuber has a video coming out within 2 weeks
@BuffRANGE
@BuffRANGE 3 жыл бұрын
If you want to protect against .308 Yes :D Video drops Tuesday ..
@ethanwiley7605
@ethanwiley7605 3 жыл бұрын
I have l210's also and I really like the weight and how thin they are but only having protection against 5.56 and 7.62x39 ap is pretty good in the modern times but if you think you'll ever be facing .308 then yeah its not great.
@BuffRANGE
@BuffRANGE 3 жыл бұрын
@@ethanwiley7605 Or boys with 22" bolt 5.56 guns either :D
@JR-ld1et
@JR-ld1et Жыл бұрын
Good night Sweet Gelatinous Prince!!! Lol
@Church449
@Church449 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I find the rests to be the worst case scenario to face. If you roll up on some guy running m2 ap, I think you gucked up somewhere along the line and if you are getting peppered by 223, refer to last statement.
@brutusgallicus3568
@brutusgallicus3568 3 жыл бұрын
It looks like on a cost-protection basis LA Police level 3 is the way to go. On sale now for $89.
@yankinoz1956
@yankinoz1956 3 жыл бұрын
I think I will dust off the M1 Garand and load it with black tips!!
@waterishdrake8693
@waterishdrake8693 10 ай бұрын
Why you gotta go at buffman like that?
@glockman9c
@glockman9c 2 жыл бұрын
You should have shot black tip first dead center then go on with the games. How about just shooting 5 black tip in the 4 corners and center???
@ds6872
@ds6872 3 жыл бұрын
You can take the time share in Costa Rica, I'll be at the hotel del-ray
@gridtac2911
@gridtac2911 2 жыл бұрын
No Spartan level IV?
@paulcritchfield6958
@paulcritchfield6958 3 жыл бұрын
I use hard cati armor. It heavy but I put everything up to 300 msg and 45-70 and it stopped them all. So I got zither with double coating. I wear it often and each time the weight is riding easier each ride. CATI ARMOR 3+ IS THE WAY TO GO IN MY BOOK JUST HEAVY SO MAN UP 😆
@Struggle-Snuggle
@Struggle-Snuggle 2 жыл бұрын
Level IV plates aren't rated to stop multiple intermediate threats AND a 30-06 black tip. It's rated to stop multiple intermediate threats OR 1 round of 30-06 black tip.
@CalzaTheFox
@CalzaTheFox 2 жыл бұрын
Even more impressive when it can though.
@khanj42
@khanj42 3 жыл бұрын
So...who knows which agency uses 30.06 Black Tips?
@BuffRANGE
@BuffRANGE 3 жыл бұрын
Likely none. They may be using M993 AP which will ruin Level IV
@HowardLuken
@HowardLuken 2 жыл бұрын
CIA and mossad.
@RammaJamma3
@RammaJamma3 Жыл бұрын
Lapg level 3 isn’t pose to stop black tip it stopped everything level 3 pose to.
@Dudewtf388
@Dudewtf388 Жыл бұрын
Note to self don’t get shot more than once
@oldleatherhandsfriends4053
@oldleatherhandsfriends4053 Жыл бұрын
Really seems like ceramic is hit or miss and in no way outside a lab multihit capable
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