My guy, THANK YOU for all the little details you spoke about. As a DIYer/homeowner, it's been difficult to find good resources on how to work with these radiators. Much appreciated!
@Shahrdad3 жыл бұрын
Air vent has to be on the top for a water system. You need to let all the air out, unless you want radiators that are half warm and act like compression tanks.
@gamatoutsikos Жыл бұрын
Correct. can be lower for 1-pipe steam system
@raksnishi3 жыл бұрын
I really wish I had found these videos sooner! Just spent big money on a job I don't love, but at least I'm getting the info I need now. Explanations are clear and concise, well done.
@hafunland89411 ай бұрын
EXCELLENT VIDEO!!!!!!!!!!! Hang in there sound is bad at first part it is well worth having patience. This guy covers EVERYTHING you need to know whether hot H2O or steam!!!
@FrustratedBaboon10 ай бұрын
A tip, Radiators are usually installed near or under a window. With that said, the sunlight cannot hit the PEX per whitepaper. PEX should always be covered in those situations as you suggested with the brass fitting.
@OldManZeke19694 жыл бұрын
Finally ...I found the video I need-Thank you good man.
@oldhandyluke5 жыл бұрын
You can't install hot water blenders halfway up the radiator it has to be on the top port for it to work properly
@mrtrek642 жыл бұрын
Bro...I'm sure we all appreciate the effort in making the video. Not to get into a long-winded reply, I'll just point out that if used for steam a 1 by 1/8 bushing must be used where you placed your 1" inch plug and the air vent installed there. If used as a Hot water radiator same thing except your bleeder gets installed instead of the air vent. You're not using the correct tappings. Installing an HW bleeder in the middle port will only allow half the radiator to fill with water and therefore reducing its BTU output.
@brandonyoder66466 ай бұрын
Very helpful I’m moving one of mine to another room and set it back up this answered everything I had questions about my biggest issue will be unhooking it to set it back up in another room.
@Tom-S19814 жыл бұрын
Quick question - will the threads be showing when done properly? (only kidding. Helpful vid thanks).
@jenniferbyrne83345 жыл бұрын
A steam vent is a steam air vent, air vents for steam are not supposed to release steam. Steam vents work by slowing down the rate that air is released from the system on each cycle. As soon as steam hits the vent a bellows or bi-metal element closes the valve so if you see steam coming from the vent on a steam radiator the valve needs to be replaced.
@103143475 жыл бұрын
AMEN!
@chephoenix25512 жыл бұрын
Good to know!
@kalemercer70532 жыл бұрын
Great video, If your using Pex (Witch I would recommend) take the few extra time and money and secure the Rad or supply & discharge lines. Had a little kid tip A rad over on to his leg, It wasn't pretty.
@stormbytes2 жыл бұрын
Outstanding presentation! Thank you! Extremely informative and helpful.
@janicemayo-march90515 жыл бұрын
Great information the best video I've seen yet how to connect hot water radiators looks so easy I might attempt my own hook up Thanks Again
@mattcramer3648 Жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was looking for, thank you for the video!!
@mueka903 күн бұрын
What’s did you use to release the bit in the begging 🙏 of the video because mine didn’t want to come out
@naelimartens64392 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!! I have been searching Hard for a video like this!
@JosephTammaro2 жыл бұрын
I just renovated a house. I took all the old cast iron radiators and repiped them with PEX. I have some issues and need to talk or visit a website that may give me a better understanding of how to come at the problem. Any suggestions? any ideas would be more than helpful. Thank you.
@hvac01453 Жыл бұрын
when and where do you connect to the top connectors? Hot water to the top connectors and return on the bottom? Vents up high because the air rises to the top of the radiator?
@laura-ye7fc Жыл бұрын
I have a hot water radiator set up for steam that I need to convert back to hot water. Currently, one pipe goes into the bottom hole on one side, and on the other side, a pipe comes from the top hole. Can I keep it set up this way or should I have the supply and return at the bottom holes or on the top and bottom holes of the same side?
@djthx87574 жыл бұрын
Hello, there are one pipe steam systems and two pipe steam systems, which include a return connection. And the steam radiator valves do not release steam, but rather air pressure, that builds up in the empty pipes and is pushed by the generating steam.
@joseromero-sl6yb9 ай бұрын
En que parte del radiador va la balbula del cierre de agua en el retorno o la principal
@pavellopez23764 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the Video. I have 3 questions. 1) what's the difference between installing the relief valve on the top or in the middle on a hot water radiator? 2) What difference does it make if the valve is installed on the supply side instead? 3) what is the proper tool to remove the bit that comes with a new radiator, I had a hard time removing it from mine?
@JakeDeGrootNY2 жыл бұрын
I removed my 1/8" bit with a 3/16" allen wrench
@jrro61114 жыл бұрын
Can I use this from a wood stove if I have a hot water storage tank?
@chephoenix25512 жыл бұрын
Loved the video! Very informative! I’ll be watching lots more!
@jrscott58272 жыл бұрын
superb content 🧐🧐👍🏾
@PEXUniverse2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Scott!
@103143475 жыл бұрын
For steam systems, these are AIR vents, NOT steam vents. Also, for 2 pipe steam systems, you need a steam TRAP on the return side of every radiator if there are not main steam traps in the basement at the near boiler piping.
@frankalbert11892 жыл бұрын
Agreed Fully. 😉
@WinterSo1dier2 жыл бұрын
Can you use these radiators for either steam or hot water? I have a boiler with baseboard heaters.i was considering putting one of these cast radiators in my carport I enclosed and insulated. You seem knowledgeable on these. If you could give some advice I’d greatly appreciate it.
@pipers255 Жыл бұрын
@@WinterSo1dieryes you can when he showed the pex and then the black elbows would be the wa you install it Im in New York and we install these all the time hope that answers your question
@jethronh2 жыл бұрын
HI, I have an old cast iron radiator that was used for hot water. I want to use it for my steam system, to replace a cracked/leaking radiator. They are almost the same size, but I need to swap the fittings from top to bottom for steam, and put a vent valve in. Any advice on how to get the bushings off that have been on there forever? they are painted on pretty well to. Do i used flame, or heat gun? Do i need to score/cut the paint first? just brute strength to get them to turn? Lefty loosey still? Thanks.
@noellarcena64284 жыл бұрын
how about radiator trap for the return condensate
@bhadz1002 жыл бұрын
What kind of pex B was used?
@muslivormilch67692 жыл бұрын
Dont you use some kind of a thermostatic head in the US?
@garethsmith76663 жыл бұрын
What is the recommended pipe size for feeding cast iron radiators?
@jaefrmbk2k4 жыл бұрын
great video. I learned so much
@ighomesrepair4 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I needed!!!
@3r1cratpool222 жыл бұрын
I have air in a big wood dryer radiators so i needed air vents. The guy sold me maid-o-mist #675. Its for hydronic. Is this ok for steam radiator. I didnt install yet.
@yioryios12 жыл бұрын
How to level? Adjustable legs?
@james7775514 жыл бұрын
Very talented very helpful 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
@robbacon99694 жыл бұрын
Can you have the feed and return on the same side?
@PEXUniverse4 жыл бұрын
It all depends on the radiator that you currently have. Older models might permit this from happening but newer models don't.
@tomk67354 жыл бұрын
Is that any sort of baseboard or anything I can use for a radiator I have one that has a crack (all ready tryed high temp jb weld). Tyed calling salvage yards in my area no has any.? Steam heat.
@rickringler50212 жыл бұрын
Is that one of the Gov-Free radiators, sure looks like one?
@heatherbrennan7553 жыл бұрын
Hi, Where did you find that radiator, that is the exact size I need. Thanks
@walterbrunswick3 жыл бұрын
Probably PEX Universe? 🤔
@smidi09244 жыл бұрын
Great video!!! I would like to see how to connect and run pipes from an existing cast iron steam radiator on the bottom to the upper floor or an attic for a new steam cast iron heater. I'm looking for to install a new one on mynattic by myself. I need a clear idea how i can do it perfectly with your help. Thank you in advance.
@brianhunter50474 жыл бұрын
What would be an alternative hot water heat application where previously the radiator was installed with a Honeywell Unique Valve where supply and return are from the same side?
@hijodelaisla2754 жыл бұрын
I like the clunky valve. It's honest. "Installation"
@daniellindey3 жыл бұрын
Don't you need the orange PEX-C tubing, because it has the oxygen barrier and the max working temp and pressure are higher than the standard red PEX tubing?
@daniellindey3 жыл бұрын
Ah, I spoke too soon! He mentions that towards the end of the video. Great video... just what I was looking for!
@GotSig15104 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you
@PEXUniverse4 жыл бұрын
No problem man, that is what we are here for. Let us know if there are any other topics you want us to cover.
@kaitang62124 жыл бұрын
Temperature changer? LOL. The vent is not for releasing steam, otherwise you'll have a very efficient humidifier and heater. The air vent is to release cold air that is inside the radiator so the steam has a place to go. Different size vents will regulate how fast the radiator heats up which influences how warm the room gets in relation to the rest of the system. And my 1929 Tudor does have 1-1/4" supply lines - no bushing required. I didn't watch the whole video so I don't know what other mis-information is on here, but needless to say accurate and correct information is important!!!
@ironwill043 жыл бұрын
When using those pipe nipples for hot water do you use Teflon or pipe dope? If so, how do you get a clean look?
@chan.tal.Ай бұрын
5:12, is it safe to take from this comment that I can use cast iron radiators for a hot water Navien combo boiler?
@ighomesrepair4 жыл бұрын
Can I use pex for steam?
@PEXUniverse4 жыл бұрын
Hey, the maximum rated operating temperature for PEX tubing is 200F. It would be a bad idea to use PEX for steam applications since you may melt your tubing.
@lovelyek81874 жыл бұрын
The radiator valve in my bathroom crumpled!! And the other side is missing the steam thing, some radiators wont get hot especially the on in the attic!! Do you guys come out??? i need help!! Brought a old house and i know nothing!! I have lots of radiators!!
@iwanttosurvive39924 жыл бұрын
How's it goin at your house now? Were you able to find help yet? Just wondering. (I'm on YT here cuz I'm trying to research if radiators can still be installed in new homes not just old homes. Haven't found the answer yet.)
@lovelyek81874 жыл бұрын
@@iwanttosurvive3992 it's going well we took the valve from the attic heater and put it in the bathroom, the attic heater won't get hot and nobody is up there anyway.
@iwanttosurvive39924 жыл бұрын
@@lovelyek8187 ok good! Glad it worked out.
@mikeluciano73055 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I wanted to install 2 separate hot water radiators in one room on either end of the room. How do I plumb them together so I don't have to run separate lines to the boiler? thanks for the help!
@ericfleury83695 жыл бұрын
Use the return line off the first radiator to the supply on your second radiator. Then run the return off the second radiator back to the boiler.
@mikeluciano73055 жыл бұрын
Eric Fleury thank you
@smidi09244 жыл бұрын
Eric Fleury hi Fleury, im looking for to add another steam cast iron radiator on my attic. Therefore, i need to run a new pipe from the existing cast iron radiator valve on 2nd floor to the attic. Please help? Thank you.
@WBIGTVBuffalo2 жыл бұрын
Typically each radiator circuit is branched off the mains using a smaller diameter pipe. That way each radiator gets fully heated water.
@baritone7773 жыл бұрын
So, the only thing I lose by getting rid of the valve is the ability to completely shut off the radiator, correct? I'm trying to save some space... Excellent and informative, thank you!
@WBIGTVBuffalo2 жыл бұрын
Also the ability to adjust how warm it gets in relation to the other radiators so your heat is balanced the way you want it to be.
@1sornram3 жыл бұрын
So radiators uses oil and baseboards uses gas heating system?
@694864 жыл бұрын
How do you remove the air valve bit?
@pavellopez23764 жыл бұрын
I have the same problem, I've tried all Allen keys possible and none seems to fit
@694864 жыл бұрын
I was able to find an allen key. I think it's 1/8". Try to clean and measure inside from one side to other
@pavellopez23764 жыл бұрын
I guess that mine came with a damaged bit. I've try every Allen key and none can fit properly
@JakeDeGrootNY2 жыл бұрын
Got my OCS radiator bit out with a 3/16" Allen Wrench
@markincomevideo91115 жыл бұрын
In the hot water setup, isn't the return side suppose to be at the top so the radiator can be filled with water. And the bleeder valve on the opposite from the return
@denisrhodes545 жыл бұрын
supply and return at bottom vent at top, same side as return after running the system, bleed the air. let the system run for a white and bleed again. the rad with the most air repeatedly - install automatic air vent
@BlisterHiker5 жыл бұрын
Supply can be at the top and return at the bottom, but not the opposite way. Return line at the top is not recommended. It may seem weird at first, but it actually helps to maintain proper water circulation in radiators. As hot water cools, it becomes heavier and sinks down toward return. Vent must be at the top, of course. Typically, as Denis explained, both supply and return lines are connected at the bottom and radiators are built in such a way that it helps to use energy better.
@spectralprism32255 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard this as well. The reasoning is that you have the hot water in the radiator for longer and it is a more efficient setup. I am finding that if the hot water in and out are at the bottom the hottest water never reaches the top of the radiator.
@TheCrushinator713 жыл бұрын
You need oxygenated pex tubing Usually orange in color For radiator installs.
@ivantorr3 жыл бұрын
So just using the crimping rings good enough for the oxygenated pex tubing? What types of connections are available for connecting the oxygenated pex tubing? Thx
@TheCrushinator713 жыл бұрын
@@ivantorr I used the crimp rings or you can use shark bites even if you wanted too. I did my one install years ago with the rings and haven’t had a problem
@ivantorr3 жыл бұрын
@@TheCrushinator71 thx JD
@TheCrushinator713 жыл бұрын
@@ivantorr no problne
@marccole83454 жыл бұрын
If incorporating old functioning cast iron radiators into a forced hot water system should the supply water enter from the bottom and return water exit from the other side top?
@WBIGTVBuffalo2 жыл бұрын
Heat rises so it is better to use both lower connections.
@TheFiremaker0073 жыл бұрын
Copper for steam hummmm
@mrbig4532 Жыл бұрын
It’s not a relief valve it’s a air bleeder.
@mikev.1034 Жыл бұрын
👍👍
@TheFiremaker0073 жыл бұрын
Not a relief valve air vent
@mugen-mundo5 жыл бұрын
Either his a giant person or this is the smallest radiator ever made.
@MemoGrafix4 жыл бұрын
There are radiators smaller/shorter than that. Some of them hasve 2-3 fins.
@bugattivi71104 жыл бұрын
All the new age models are sized smaller and slimmer but as long as they have the right sections they will work and give off the same heat to the room as the older over sized beast from the old ages lol
@kinokind2936 ай бұрын
Wow, is this a terrible video! There are so many errors that it's evident the presenter doesn't really understand how some of this works. He's in a nice shirt, and the warehouse is clean, but that's about it. In a hot water system you can make the pipe connections at any pair of taps, but the air vent has to be at the very top, since air will start accumulating from the top down, and if you don't vent it from the top then most of the radiator will be full of air, not hot water. With one-pipe steam, although there are two 1/8" taps for venting, only the top can be used for hot water and only the lower one for steam. Why, because if you put the steam vent at the top steam, which is lighter than air, will rise to the top of the radiator, travel to the far side, and shut the air vent leaving the radiator partially filled with air, not steam. Also, he is incorrect saying you need a bushing at the bottom in all cases. Untrue. one-pipe steam often has a 1-1/4" valve connection. Only the smallest radiators will have 1".One-pipe steam never, ever, uses anything smaller than 1". And the brass return elbow would never be used with one-pipe and almost never with two-pipe. Only hot water. And he never even mentions 2-pipe steam, which comprises probably a third of all steam. I am impressed that most of what he says is either partially or totally wrong. Do your research elsewhere!
@plungulator2 жыл бұрын
This Kid doesn't know what the heck he's talking about !!!!