【YAMAHA CK61】比較！ピアノ・エレピ音色 [No Talking] ／ CT-S1、CT-S1000V、FANTOM-06、PSR-E373、Reface CP

00:00 ①CT-S1 との比較
06:17 ②CT-S1000V との比較
10:20 ③FANTOM-06 との比較
14:58 ④PSR-E373 との比較
16:02 ⑤Reface CP との比較
18:05 クロージング
　皆さんからリクエストいただいていました、CK61と他の機種とのピアノ・エレピ音色を、手持ちの楽器で比較してみました。録音はLINE OUT経由で、”ZOOM LiveTrak L-12”で録音し、エフェクトはかけていません。
　
　こうやって比較してみると、あらためて各々の楽器の特徴がよく分かりますね🎹♪
　
【CASIO CT-S1】
music.casio.com/ja/products/c...
【CASIO CT-S1000V】
music.casio.com/ja/products/c...
【Roland FANTOM-06】
www.roland.com/jp/products/fa...
【YAMAHA PSR-E373】
jp.yamaha.com/products/musica...
【YAMAHA Reface CP】
jp.yamaha.com/products/music_...
【YAMAHA CK61】
jp.yamaha.com/products/music_...
Masataka Kono WebSite
mkes.music.coocan.jp/kono/

[@papankunci]

Thank you Mr.Masataka! you really2 show how great the dynamic range and playability of the CK61 Keybed... you are an AWESOME Keyboardist!

[@pf_masa]

Thank you for your comment!!☺

[@jjacob25101]

Great video. All of these keyboards sound great, each with their own unique nuances in their timbres, but all pleasing to the ear. The Reface CP is a great compact mini keys with effects to take on the road in your travels, or to the park or everywhere you go. But if you don't need the large amount of voice tones, pitch bend wheel, or ¼" audio out connections, the CT-S1 holds it's own for its price, sound quality and portability.

[@pf_masa]

Thank you for your comment. I agree with all of your opinions. If the CT-S1 had a 1/4 inch audio output connection and could turn the speaker on and off at will, I think it would be the strongest instrument☺

[@Asmuk]

Fantastic playing, thank you.

[@pf_masa]

Thank you for your comment !!☺

[@seifeermax]

yamaha ck hand down. great price and great sounds

[@pf_masa]

I agree with your comment "great price and great sound"☺

[@CanaldoOTA]

Nice playing, nice demos. I always watch your videos. I think that you are the person that squeezed the best sound of Cts1!! Have you ever tested the Cts1 as a midi controller with something like Pianoteq/Noire/Keyscape? If so, what are your toughts about the action/dynamics. Cheers from Brazil.

[@pf_masa]

Thank you for always watching my videos! I've used the CT-S1 as a MIDI controller before🎹The action/dynamics (touch sense) at that time is very good! Here is the video of the test. thank you☺ kzbin.info/www/bejne/rmKmZGidnNWaa9U

[@CanaldoOTA]

@@pf_masa THanks!!

[@jonathandossantossilva2683]

O senhor toca super bem...e todos os teclados soam bem com o senhor...parabéns!!!

[@pf_masa]

Thank you so much !!!☺

[@user-si8cu7ey4g]

本当にいい音色です😌 カシオも負けてない⁇ 自分で引き比べしたいなー🎹 動画ありがとうございます😉👍✨🎹♪

[@pf_masa]

コメントありがとうございます！　弾き比べるといろいろ分かって面白いですね🎹♪　個人的にはCT-S1は今でも大好きな楽器です☺

[@wieselt]

I loved the keybed of the Yamaha Electone HX-1 and EL-90 back in the 80/90ies. If the CK-61 keybed is the same, it is the perfect light-weight option. The video shows that the possible dynamics of the Yamaha CK-61 is much better.

[@pf_masa]

Thank you for your comment!! I agree with your comment. Actually, I had an EL-90! It was my favorite instrument☺

[@PakBudiTarigan]

Yamaha win, but casio is amazing for its price. Somehow i think casio better for solo piano. Yamaha to bright, suit for band

[@pf_masa]

I have the same impression as you🎹 I think Casio is amazing for that price!☺

[@ryoutayamagoshi]

すごい参考になりました。趣味でDTMをやっていて、最近はMIDI鍵盤一つあればいいかなって感じだったんですが、単体で音出せるキーボードはやっぱりいいなと。CK61音いいですね。

[@pf_masa]

ありがとうございます♪そう言っていただけると動画を掲載して良かったなと思います。私もDTMをやっていますが、やはり、アイデアとかちょっと弾くとかは、コンパクトで音の良いCK61のようなキーボードを使うことが多いですね♪　悩みは、気に入ったMIDI鍵盤が見つからないことです…　YAMAHAで昔のように、DTM専用のMIDI鍵盤を出してくれないかなあと思っています☺

[@ys2069]

カシオCT-S1 すごく良いと感じました。

[@pf_masa]

同感です🎹　この内容でリーズナブル♪　鍵盤もスピーカーもしっかりしており、製品としてはかなりすごいなと思っています☺

[@user-ey9gi4ul2e]

スペインの比較演奏の時は、コロコロ感の生々しさとか勝っていると思いました。

[@francescomanfredi]

Great comparison! Did you use the Zoom microphone or line input to record? The ck61 seems to have a much warmer tone then the other keyboards, do you agree?

[@pf_masa]

Thank you! The Zoom L-12 recorded using the line input. I agree with you that the CK61 has a warmer tone than other keyboard🎹☺

[@dwsel]

Conclusion: CT-S1000V / CT-S500 = CT-S1 (speakers make only difference in the sound - CT-S1 being warmer, via line there's no difference) CK61 the same signature sound as Reface CP but more effects CT-S1000V vs CK61 I liked either of them differently depending on the repertoire FANTOM-06 I'm kind of surprised it can be brighter than Yamaha, but not my cup of tea E373 I think I got tired of classic home-range keyboard Yamaha sound for some time, but I'm starting to rediscover it, and thinking "it's not that totally bad as I used to think about it"

[@pf_masa]

Thank you for your comment!. I agree with most of your comments. Just two more comments from me. Although the CT-S1 and CT-S1000V have similar sound quality, they sound slightly different to me. I would have been happy if Reface's Rd1 sound was included in the CK61.

[@TCBees73]

@@pf_masa I agree with you Kono, I thought the reface rhodes was included on CK61 and is apparently not which is a shame.

[@jonathandossantossilva2683]

Esses casio do vídeo são ótimos também😮😮😮

[@pf_masa]

Thanks for your comment!☺

[@miraclesanta1797]

私はずっとヤマハエレクトーンを弾いているので聴き比べると耳はヤマハの音の方がどうしてもしっくりきてしまいます 鍵盤もエレクトーンと一緒との事でちょっと興味があります😉いつかこうしたキーボードも購入してみたくなりました！ 楽しい動画をありがとうございました！

[@pf_masa]

いつもありがとうございます！エレクトーンを弾かれるのですね☺実は私も若い頃はエレクトーンを弾いていました🎹FX-20という機種、好きだったです♪

[@miraclesanta1797]

エレクトーン弾かれていたのですね！私もFX20を使って学生時代は勉強してきました😊あの存在感、貫禄ある楽器すごく好きでした！ ３段目のピアニカみたいな鍵盤が懐かしいです♪

[@pf_masa]

はい、３歳～20歳くらいまで弾いていました🎹当時、FX20の動くボリュームスライダーに驚きました。３段目は一番上の３オクターブの鍵盤ですよね。ショルダーキーボードのKX5にも使われていた鍵盤と思います。あの鍵盤、弾きやすかったなあ☺

[@rezeik]

これは聴いちゃいけない比較だったかもしれません！ものすごく音の違いがわかりやすいです CK61はピアノもエレピも素晴らしい音で、アコースティック感をしっかり感じられて、 演奏してて気持ちいい音だろうと思いました。いいですね！YAMAHA流石だな 普段FANTOM使ってて、ピアノに少し物足りなさを感じるのですが、CK61は良いですね。 FANTOMはバンドとかオケにいれるなら良い系なのかもしれない。。 Refaceは音の傾向似てますね。特にピアノ。元波形が同じなのかも？ でも出音がぜんぜん違う。CK61、魅力的な音です ちなみにスピーカーは全く同じiLoud micro monitor使って聴きました

[@pf_masa]

いつもありがとうございます！　今回の動画はみなさんのリクエストがきっかけで作りましたが、正直、価格帯もキャラクターも違う製品を、私というプレイヤーだけが比較して良いのか、正直悩みました。ベストは、これらの製品を　違う人が弾いたらどうなるか？というコンテンツも合わせて載せたら、公平性という観点でベストだなあと思いながら動画を作っていました🎹 弾き手によって、楽器の出音はかなり変わると思います。おっしゃるとおり、FANTOMはバンドやオケの中で弾いたり、ロックバラードの曲にとてもマッチすると思います♪ RefaceCPは音の傾向が似ていると私も感じます。iLoud micro monitor、持っていらっしゃるのですね☺

[@abath07]

The Casio Piano sounds like it was close mic recorded with little reverb involved and the Yamaha Piano sounds like it's shrouded in cathedral reverb. I think we need to equalize the reverbs to judge. The close mic always sounds better to me in terms of clarity. The Casio Electric Piano sounds like a more authentic fuller sounding Fender Rhodes, IMO. Less reverb again, closer mic sounding which I prefer.

[@pf_masa]

Thank you for your comment !!! I agree with you.☺

[@davidmartin123]

Would be interesting to compare the sounds of the CK88 and the DGX-670. Certainly much different front panels and OS interfaces and stage versus arranger. Same GHS keybed. If the sounds and speaker quality are comparable, the DGX-670 may be preferred for some given the bonus of arranger features, styles, and drums.

[@pf_masa]

Thank you for your comment !! DGX-670 is not available in Japan, but I would love to play it if I have the chance.

[@Roberto-qb2dj]

Amo la sonorità di cts 1 per quanto riguarda il piano, migliore come sempre yamaha nei pianoforti elettrici. Bisognerebbe averle tutte e due! Yamaha reface stupefacente! Fantom 06 bella nel piano elettrico. Yamaha per e373 ha lo stesso campione di pianoforte della mia psr e363. Ciao dall' Italia.

[@pf_masa]

Thanks for your comment! I have the same opinion as you.☺

[@user-kt1bu7ru9j]

甲能さんお疲れ様です。😄 いつも動画ありがとうございます。 僕は最初の黒い方が好みのピアノサウンドです。 バンドアンサンブルで弾くと ちょっと音が埋もれ気味に聞こえて くるかも知れませんが、 ナチュラル感がたっぷり 感じ取れます。😌🎵 これはエフェクトの違いなのでしょうか？ 自分が持っているKORGのKronosのピアノSoundと ROLANDのピアノSound… やはりビミョーな、違いがあります。 それもまた心地よいものです。 いつも同じ音で弾いてると 飽きがきます。 電子ピアノは音をすでに加工している… とお聞きしたので あとはエフェクトやその他機能で 音を加工するしかありません。 僕が欲しい究極の電子ピアノは どんなピアノ音色にも 加工が自由にできるピアノ音源です。 (そんなの、あるわけない😱💨)

[@pf_masa]

いつもありがとうございます♪　 音を加工できるという機能はRolandの一部の機種にはありますが、やはり元の音に左右されるので、なかなか難しいですね。かなり自由度の高いパソコン用のソフトウェア音源でも一緒です。 しかし、一方で、生音のピアノをマイクで録るのはかなり大変です。ピアノ・マイク・プリアンプの種類、録り方でかなり違ってきます。 まあ、こんな風に考えるだけでも楽しいですけどね☺

[@jonathandossantossilva2683]

Audio muito bom

[@pf_masa]

Wow, thank you !!✨

[@curtbalsinihubbe2417]

The Yamaha is better in my opinion. The only exception is the rhodes sound with phaser, where the Ct s1 is unbeatable. The acoustic piano of the reface cp is very similar to the CK but it has a very strong attack. in the comparison of the rhodes CP with the CK, in the CK the attack is also very strong, being a better sound in the reface. The PSR 373 also has a very good acoustic piano, but it sounds "that PSR piano" where the CK sounds a more special Yamaha line, but I love the "PSR sound". They are all good keyboards with good pianos, what matters is what you do with them, an example of this are the wonderful arrangements that Masataka makes with the "little PSS A50". Let's go MUSIC!!!

[@pf_masa]

I agree with all of you and think you are right☺ I used to play a real Rhodes piano well, and for some reason the feeling of playing it is the same as the CT-S1. Rather than the reality, I feel that the attack and others are similar to the real Rhodes piano🎹 You're right, I think there are different playing styles and song genres that are best suited to different instruments. It's up to the player to play the instrument! I think.

[@eddie1brazil]

I agree, and I believe the reason for one keyboard to have a stronger attack than the other is to do with the velocity samples. So on acoustic piano on the Ck, Yamaha must have included 5-7 layers, now on the lectric pianos on the ck we can hear it has less layers 3 perhaps 🤔

[@user-ey9gi4ul2e]

スペインでCT-S1のコロコロ感、まさかの生々しさ。もちろん総合的にはYAMAHAの底力が勝る感じですが、どっこいcasioも猛追してると思います。

[@pf_masa]

私も、まさにそう思っています☺

[@user-ey9gi4ul2e]

@@pf_masa 毎度のお早いリプ恐れ入ります。「どちらがいい？」は、ユーザーの用途が第一でしょうし好みや相性もあるでしょうし。コスパや外観・色（スマートなデザインにボックス鍵盤・NORD風の赤ｗ）ならCASIO CT-S1、程々の数のドローバーにツマミ・何気に嬉しいコントロールホイールや標準フォンのアウトプットやヘッドホン端子はYAMAHAに軍配。世界に誇る電子機器のコスパ王CASIOの力量の向上も感じるし、はたまた楽器業界の旗手的グローバル企業YAMAHAの品質の完成度。気に入った方を購入するなら決して損しないと思えますね。ただ懐に余裕あるならスピーカー付き電池駆動可のステージKEY「YAMAHA　CK61」は魅力的だなぁ…。

[@eddie1brazil]

I’m wondering how does the facing down speakers sounds to you in the room. Do you feel it sounds muffled ? Also, I wonder why Yamaha didn’t consider have the speakers on top on the ck88, it does plenty of space for it 🤔🤔

[@pf_masa]

Thanks for your comment! Downward speakers don't sound muffled, but... When you play loud sounds such as an electric piano or an organ on your desk, the speakers tremble! Even with the EQ set for the table. The chattering sound of the main unit is terrible unless the master volume is about 80%. I also wonder why the speaker was not designed upward. As for the speakers, the CASIO sounds much better.

[@sociedadartificial]

Las teclas del ck61 se sienten como las del psr ??? Saludos grcaias por la demostracion

[@pf_masa]

The CK61 "FSB keyboard" is completely different from the PSR keyboard. The FSB keyboard of CK61 is very good. thank you!☺

[@dinaslingkunganhidupdankeh4336]

@@pf_masa I briefly owned both the CK61 and PSR SX 900 . and it is the same keybed as the psr sx900 and sx700. but not with the PSR series below

[@pf_masa]

@@dinaslingkunganhidupdankeh4336 Thanks for sharing the information! The sx900 and sx700 are not sold in Japan, so I would love to play them if I have the chance☺

[@Rafael-Vdmqd]

Mr. Kono, I have a Fantom 06 and the pianos sound worse than in this video, especially the Grand Concert, have you configured the sound in any way? Thank you so much.

[@pf_masa]

Thank you for the question! The FANTOM-06 piano sound in this video is the instrument's preset sound, and no settings have been changed. Also, this video was recorded with Zoom L-12, and no changes have been made to the sound quality.

[@Tommy_Lee123]

聴き比べると意外に全く違う事に驚きました。ピアノは馴染みの有るヤマハの方がしっくりきますが カシオの方は何か違和感があります。ローランドは流石に違和感は無いです。 エレピはどれもまぁまぁですね。トータルでCK61が一番良いように感じました。

[@pf_masa]

そうなんですよね♪　弾き比べてみて初めて分かる部分もあり、音のキャラクターの違いに私も驚きました。コメントに書いて頂いた内容が参考になります🎹　ありがとうございます☺

[@TCBees73]

Superb comparison video Kono and great playing! I love those sweeps up and down the keys, so nice thank you. I agree with your statement at the end. In my opinion the difference in piano sounds on the CTS 1 to CK61 is that CTS 1 has a woody close mic sample room sound, whereas the CK61 has a Classical hall reverb - further mic sample sound with more brightness but is obviously a far more superior piano sound. I like both but personally I do like the CTS 1 closer room sound. The same is with the Rhodes sounds, I personally prefer the CTS 1 rhodes, the rhodes on the CK61 is too bright and bell sounding and Phaser a bit too strong and sweeping. The CTS 1 has a more authentic vintage Rhodes sound imo. I think the Reface YC has a better sounding Rhodes than CK61, they sound like the same sample but with different EQ. I understand the E373 concert live piano is from the Tyros series? I still love that piano sound and in my conclusion I like both the Casio and Yamaha brands. PS - there is a comparison video on youtube comparing the piano sound on reface CP and the PSS a50 and they sound very similar 😊

[@pf_masa]

I agree with you all, and I think you are right☺ The CK61 is certainly a great instrument. On the other hand, like you, I like the sound of the CT-S1's Phaser Rhodes piano. I think the best way to apply Phaser is. I have the same comment as you, what I would like to see in CK61 is to increase the variation of the Rhodes piano sound with less attack bell sound. The CK61 sounds great, but it feels like it has something different than real comfort.

[@xaverNOkage]

本当にヤマハは流石の貫禄、というか音をそれっぽく美しく誤魔化す（いい意味で）のが上手いですね。カシオのct-s1も大健闘してますが、聴き比べるとまだまだ素直で未熟……　まあ、値段も、販売する対象も、メインステージの方向性が違う品物ですからね。

[@pf_masa]

コメントありがとうございます♪　おっしゃるとおり、対象とするユーザが違うのかもしれないと私も思います☺　いずれにせよ、メーカ同士が競い合って、より良い楽器が開発されることを願うばかりです🎹

[@abrahamsg8318]

How about CK61 vs SX-600..?

[@pf_masa]

I don't have a YAMAHA PSR-SX600, but I've tried it at the shop. When it comes to piano and electric piano tones, I think the CK61 has more tones. And the important point is that the touch of the keyboard is different. Please try playing it at the shop. I hope you can find a good instrument.☺

[@sarahhey8654]

Sounds like Studio Ghibli music 😉🔥✌🙇

[@pf_masa]

Thank you for your comment !!☺

[@eddie1brazil]

Wow Yamaha, definitely sounds best. But I’m surprised how bad the Roland sound to my ears, almost like it had no velocity layers, dynamically poor and thin. Although the Casio has decent low register tones, I find it loses too much of the body in the upper register, it pretty much sounds like stretched samples from c4 upwards. Thank you for such great demo and amazing playing Sir 🙏🏽

[@pf_masa]

Thank you for your comment. Your comments are helpful!☺

[@user-zt5rp5qs9d]

CK61はあの鍵盤とこのグレードの音源エフェクターで10万はなかなかいやめちゃくちゃインパクト有るようなきがします。 でもGHS鍵盤のCK88が15万は支持できないなあω定価12万実売11万くらいだとP125の代替案として一押しになるけど。

[@pf_masa]

おっしゃるとおり、CK61はリーズナブルですね♪　CK88は、タッチに加えてデザインやスピーカーの出音など、是非試奏してみたいと思っています🎹☺

[@ayrtoninchejanampa6874]

17:32 el piano que se obtiene de forma secreta o extraña xd

[@pf_masa]

I was surprised to find that RefaceCP contained the sound of an acoustic piano♪

[@arkar500]

Casio も悪くないと思う、ただヤマハには勝ってない😊

[@pf_masa]

コメントありがとうございます♪　CK61の1/3の価格のCT-S1は、正直すごいと思います。CASIOは電子ピアノでもここ数年での開発の追い上げがすごいとも思っています。一方で、中低域の音質のふくよかさと、高域での倍音の処理の仕方は、YAMAHAはさすがと思いますね☺

[@snebam]

fantom 06 the best

[@pf_masa]

Thank you for your comment !

[@jonathandossantossilva2683]

O fantom zero é top mas nesse vídeo saiu ruim demais😢😢😢!!!

[@pf_masa]

I think the FANTOM-0 series' piano-like tones are well-suited to rock and pop music. Also, the quality and design of the keyboard is good, and the sequencer is very comfortable to use, so I think it's an instrument that I want to use for a long time to come. Thanks for your comment!

[@jonathandossantossilva2683]

O 373 não faz feio não 😮😮😮

[@tzodearf2596]

Ck61 - lid closed. . CTS1 - lid open. You have to pay Yamaha an extra $500 or 60,000 yen to take the electronic whine out of their piano samples. The Ck61 wins. The Fantom piano is dry as dust. Casio's perform well.

[@pf_masa]

Thank you!! Your comment is very helpful.🎹

[@timpullen4941]

Casio's is wrong spelling. Correct spelling is Casios for plural. If you are talking about something that belongs to the Casio like the sound, then you must use an apostrophe. Casio's sound. If it is lots of Casios then it becomes Casios' sound.

[@tzodearf2596]

@@timpullen4941 The definite article "the" should precede "wrong," and in the next sentence, "Correct." The gerund "talking" is imprecise since the post is written speech. The sentence fragment "Casio's sound" does not express a complete thought; neither do you - gfy!

[@user-gs7ev5hk3v]

変なクセもないので使いやすそう

[@pf_masa]

そうなんですよね♪　とても使いやすいです☺

[@ChrisP3000x]

Roland should be ashamed to still keep putting out those horrible old 90's samples. Yamaha CK obviously can't do a Rhodes......that sharp bell attack is harsh. The CK piano is decent, has a little depth, a bit too distant, but decent enough for live work. The Casio has the best Rhodes between Fatom and Reface, but that ain't saying much with those 3.

[@pf_masa]

I agree with you!! Thank you for your comment.☺

[@user-zt5rp5qs9d]

値段とポリ数を表示してくれたら 初心者にもっと参考になるとおもう。 DXショック経験世代の我々おっさんだと見たら分かりますけどω

[@pf_masa]

コメントありがとうございます♪　値段は表示してませんが、下記の比較動画をあげていますので、よろしければ是非ご覧ください♪ CT-S1、CT-S1000V等 kzbin.info/www/bejne/epSbdmxud5KsrcU CT-S1，PSR-E373 kzbin.info/www/bejne/poCTZYN-irimq5I