VERONICA'S FEUD PLUNDERING! Flayn, Ilyana, Melady & Veld Refine Builds & Analysis [FEH]

[@Pheonixmaster1]

Who is your favorite demote refine unit?

[@DominikGuzowski]

Not Flayn that's for sure

[@5577Step]

Sothe

[@chrosairs7057]

Melady

[@nobunagaoda9277]

Maybe Fallen Lumera and units such as like Rearmed Reinhardt with Arcane Euphoria. Oh I also like units like CYL 1 Ephraim, and probably Brave Seliph since I gave him Potent 4. Sorry not Legendary Seliph that was my mistake.

[@Gandhi0]

Ilyana, Palla, Seliph, Seteth now too.

[@chichichichichichichichichichi]

giving reopening to the embla character is so ironic

[@vendetta1645]

Palpatine: ironic

[@Theblaziken2000]

What do you mean by this?

[@nobunagaoda9277]

​@@vendetta1645Yeah I do not understand like are you just talking about Random stuffs? Instead being on topic on FEH's weapon refines?

[@gabrielgalvis6697]

@@Theblaziken2000reopening when embla power is closing dimensions n stuff

[@Theblaziken2000]

@@gabrielgalvis6697 oh lol, I thought you meant in the weapon

[@VerkatosEnsei]

I think it's kinda funny how Seteth, a demote, got a better supportive fixed DR refine than his sister Flayn, a 5* locked unit who provides very pierceable DR support I was really expecting Flayn to get fixed DR too at the very least, but her support is just... nothing

[@evilhero3297]

Wished Flayn could've gotten better support, but I'm at least happy Veronica's refine turned out well. Also, glad to see Melady got a great refine from this batch, really makes up for how she turned out when she first came to feh.

[@Sonicwisp21]

Something I've noticed is that all refines in this batch grant +10 to all stats (with Veronica being +10 to two/-10 to two on foe). I don't *think* we've ever gotten a refine batch where all the stat gains are like this, usually being a total of +8 to all.

[@VerkatosEnsei]

I noticed that the demote/free weapons from the ice banner last month provided +5 to all stats rather than +4, and now refines are following suit +5 to all stats in the base, another +5 with the effect And like with Seteth and Legendary Claude, another "base and skill effect have the same condition", ie Ilyana just needs to be above 25% HP for her entire weapon

[@HikkiDeer]

I think the cyl 3 refines gave +10 to all units too But cyl refines, especially back then, were on another level, so maybe they don't count

[@JosepiThe13th]

Aside from Brave units... you're right.

[@M4SKED2001]

I'm happy Illyana got a pretty decent refine even though Melady had won this batch. I'll probably start trying to use her more now that she is just a Res Obliterator

[@alexanderkashtanoff7006]

I have to say, while I'm disappointed with how Flayn and Veld's refines turned out, I'm extremely happy with Melady's refine. She finally got the weapon she needed after how she was done dirty years ago.

[@LunaSaint]

Veronica is besties with Jorge, who gives her Hexblade and lets her fire off two bonfires in one combat.

[@giratinalight]

Mauveir too!! :)

[@brunkosproogle5046]

Flayn came so close to greatness, but Pirate Vero did NOT disappoint!

[@Paiguy7]

I'm begging people to vote the PoR hall of forms rerun

[@justaman9344]

Thank you for the refine analysis! I'm happy with Ilyana's refine, wish they changed some things here and there and made some conditions easier, but oh well. I just hope this causes her to win the next revival poll, so I'll be waiting until then to build her!

[@saizoandoborobestduo6865]

Flayn was the one I was looking forward to the most, but her support just doesn't work with today's meta, especially with guard and guidance 4, which is ironic since Seteth basically got a better support weapon.

[@bigslappy823]

Pirate Vero and Ilyana's refines are great but I'm more happy that M'lady got something good. Nice to know IntSys didn't decide to go 0-2 with Morgan Berry voiced red wyvern flier refines.

[@DarioKalen_Kagenui]

Melady my beloved.

[@nobunagaoda9277]

Oops, imagine if Milady and Zeiss would be better? Although at the end of the FE6 Gale disappears and Milady gets in a romantic with him.

[@giratinalight]

PM1 u have no idea how happy I am about Pirate Veronica refine!! I really love how the feud is a reference to Embla since she's the one who introduced it and Vero is one of her emblain blood inheritor it's such a neat detail that they added here I love it!! :)💖 She got such a great refine she deserves it she's so fun to use now and the instant special is really nice with the canto distant 4. Her tanking ability also isn't that bad she can tank hits pretty well and the feud effect they gave her is so broken it helps so much with her matchups!! (⁠＾⁠∇⁠＾⁠)⁠ﾉ💖 Thank you so much for ur hardwork as always PM1 really appreciate these refines reviews and builds so I can update my pirate Veronica now!! :D💖

[@TheZintastic]

For a batch that received rather lackluster reception, Ilyana's refine is a spark of light in darkness for me.

[@LovelyRemorse]

Oh Flayn... My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.

[@indigo1562]

finally got pirate vero this year on the 4* special banner, just because I liked the duo a lot--so stoked to see her have a great refine! it's so cute xander reminds me of an actor at a theme park or birthday party trying to cheer her up😭

[@MoTheGuy]

Thanks for the ideas. ,I'll be borrowing and improvising a little for Veronica's build #3 :)

[@Ssbb7777brawler]

Veronica learning feud is such a cool thing. It’s still pretty rare to this day

[@sei7015]

Lets goooo the Verónica refine is awesome!! One of my favorite dúos ever

[@SomeWheats]

Ilyana went from a regular f2p infantry mage to one of the tankiest unit in the game atm. I still have some fine tuning to do on mine but she can have around 34 flat DR per hit with Laguz Friend, and with Flare + Emblem Ike's Engage effect she's nearly impossible to kill for most ranged units.

[@Everyellow]

"The best thing is the omni guidance" unless you foddered Guidance 4, Soaring Guidance and Soaring Echo to her first LOL.

[@catnapgaming7320]

Kind of hoped Flayn could've gotten something better, but nope, her support just isn't it, and Veld's refine is so-so, but at least Melady got a pretty good refine out of this batch.

[@slateportraichu5416]

Thank you for the builds and analysis. =3 As always, your advice is so helpful=3

[@crimson1million]

How come rarely anyone is talking about Melady’s refine?

[@Pheonixmaster1]

Most people don't have her and she is in a sea of lance fliers.

[@nobunagaoda9277]

​@@Pheonixmaster1Yeah I get that especially Milady's was a old unit back in the good old days, so I understand how many of Binding Blade/Sealed Sword fans wanted a Milady for her weapon refine.

[@innocentorphan1213]

Blessed Ilyana refine, been my pet project forever.

[@oppenheimer.469]

Im going to start running occultists strike celica emblem veld

[@Utenarosemary]

Ilyana getting a good refine makes me real happy.

[@Rodi_1111]

P!Veronica got such an incredible refine! I also really like how she can be effective even on a budget build. I'll definitely be giving her that refine Thanks for the fantastic vid!

[@UAshton5090]

Grail villains were getting shafted so hard before Validar showed up.

[@thel-iteralone4592]

2020 - Flayn was everywhere due to her drive DR, Seteth was an above average demote due to his prf. Child outperforming their parent. 2024 - Seteth is crazy good with his joint drive true DR support, Flayn is still stuck with percentage DR. Parent surpassing their child.

[@ItsAZues]

Sure love me some massive upgrades. In the form of getting a giant wall of text.

[@TheDjdeath45]

We really cant have nice dancer or staff refines...

[@nonmetateams4278]

Anything that makes Veld better i'll take it!

[@nobunagaoda9277]

Ilyana because of my Tellius units collection so yeh she's my favorite weapon refine for this update.

[@nobunagaoda9277]

Have I done something wrong? Why is the like button keep going back and forth?

[@smooshandchill4724]

Finally melady refine wooo 😊

[@metallicxx]

Melady is like flying diamant now

[@JackieWohlenhaus]

If Ilyana gets a rerun in HOF I might invest.

[@jordanebo1367]

I wanted veld to be so much better with true DR and turning off actions 😭

[@moreOddThanNess]

My +1 Vero finally a super insane unit agin woo. Galeforce+heavy sealed a lot with her years ago. My +10 Ilyana also eating good(heh).

[@ixlness]

I can finally use my Melady hell yeah! I have an extra Rosado that I will feed to her.

[@luisrincon8922]

My Xander/vero ate hard!!! 🫶🏽🖤

[@oscarhannerz6986]

To anyone who doesn't use P!Veronica: What a pity...For them!

[@MegaMaster1021]

Wished Veld weapon went on a loop and also got a second debuff effect like deep wound or preventing canto

[@johanngonzalezmunoz6035]

Need Verónica on hall of forms

[@giratinalight]

She's a duo/ harmonic hero it's still not clear if they'll ever add them yet. :')

[@johanngonzalezmunoz6035]

@@giratinalight they'll add them eventually just like with legendary/mythic heroes.

[@giratinalight]

​@@johanngonzalezmunoz6035 I hope so I would love pirate Vero in hof. But we'll see how long till they add the duo heroes although they're kinda valuable as they help score high in arena at high investment but hopefully they do add the old ones.

[@gamefoxo19]

I'm pretty disappointed with this refine batch because I really liked using Flayn, but I'm glad Vero's refine was good. Vero inflicting Feud making Flayn's support even less useful is just twisting the knife tho 😅

[@blxcksage1931]

The last 3 Resplendent reviews are missing. Have you stopped doing those?

[@Pheonixmaster1]

Last 3? Pretty sure its 2 - Catria & Dimitri. Not at all, I haven't stopped with them and I don't intend to. Just my ADHD spiraling out last month. I do plan on getting to them once I am done with the Halloween Coverage before Dimitri releases. Thanks for your patience.

[@blxcksage1931]

@@Pheonixmaster1 Ah yes its the last 2. Its just through out the years you always released the reviews so quick that i got used to it. I was just suprised that after a few days the reviews were still missing. But dont stress your self too much about it i was just suprised because it was an unusual precedent.

[@nobunagaoda9277]

​@@Pheonixmaster1Yeah I understand how you feel, especially uploading videos can take a long time, so take your time you don't need to rush it I will be always waiting for your Resplensdent videos.

[@aubird456]

Couldn't Pirate Veronica use Marth Ring + Aether for guaranteed Aethers? Maybe I am missing something but that sounds like it would be strong

[@VidaCrowe]

I'll probably just wish for Melady on Hall of Forms.

[@CArkbird]

Idk what everyone is so upset about with flayns refine. They definitely undercooked but considering the available options right now it's just arcane charmer with better combat for her and better support for allies with no slaying. Again, they could've cooked harder but it's not bad at all

[@BaneofGods]

same, it seems pretty good to me-the guidance 4 and special charge boost alone would be pretty awesome support effects, with everything else just being very nice bonuses, especially the guard and DR, even if the DR is pierceable

[@nobunagaoda9277]

Yeah I know right? What's the problem with people like are they just mad? Because it seems pretty good too me as well, so I have no idea what are people might be thinking.. Like Just because Flayn got a bad weapon refine that doesn't mean everyone has to disagree and be mad at someone you just gotta accept it and move on that's how you become Normal person. Okay I know this but many people are not going to accept it they just want to be at their own goods so that way like for an Arena Assault players can dominate others, y'know what's worse? Most of people uses Ninja Lyn like crazy to blame someone, which we are just doing right things and it's their opinions on being mad at FEH for Flayn's bad weapon refine. I mean think about it whenever the new update comes out will people might be complaining to others, probably not in my case. These people has no ideas how we feel, it's called being selfish to others and only thinking about good stuffs they don't want a bad to the game, if it does then many people knows how players are in a painful part of being not getting a good weapon refine. Like can't you even tell what's the problem? And people still talks like a strong players in FEH when you realized you didn't accept other people's feelings. How very sensitive of other players, lol. Just to let you know a few days ago I was really mad and people were disagreeing and it made me feel like do I even need to quit this game when the FEH itself was already in a negative mood. You know what's worse at that time? It was my birthday and nobody ever didn't think about players like me how I felt, so I just felt like was the FEH community was this bad?

[@reishiki8682]

"Not bad" might as well be "why bother". Now, let me ask you who'd you rather use? Flayn with a very outdated support gimmick and in colorless hell, or Seteth that's a demote and with a very relevant support effect? Saying otherwise is pure copium.

[@CArkbird]

@@reishiki8682 i use both

[@Spyder-Marth]

When are the refines dropping?

[@khalilsabur9922]

FLAYN let goo

[@KevinLi3903]

Flayn’s weapon refine quality is about as what I expected, her having super guidance in her weapon makes her at least usable in the meta but it is still far from what all she needed

[@62swordsmen]

How are they gonna give Ilyana and Melady flat DR in their refines but not Flayn? DR was her whole gimmick. I'm glad that Melady finally got justice but I'm really wondering why does I.S hate Staff units when it comes to refines?

[@xemnasxiii3992]

Judging off reactions... It really feels like Ilyana's refine is unremarkable Like you either see people complain that Flayn's is lacking or that Vero's is pretty neat for her with Instances of Melady being dispaointing and Veld (?) being flawed Like Am I crazy here for thinking that ? Why is Ilyana's refine flying under the radar ?

[@krislee3155]

Man it's really tragic how Flayn's refine came out. It's not bad but it's just meh. Especially comparing it to Seteth's refine, F's in the chat for our poor fish loving gal. 😔🙏🏼

[@TNinja0]

With how Gharnef, Iago and now Veld's refines turbed out kinda "eh", I have little hope for Solon and Riev. I guess villains cant win.

[@pigeonleader]

How in the Zaharas did Flayn get a worse refine than her d- I mean brother Seteth????? Why did they give her 30% dr and guard what healer is going to be attacking without razzle dazzle? What I think they should've done was increase her dr, like what if it had the weaving fighter effect where you get 80% if the foe can make a follow up. Or give her true dr everything nowadays gets true dr so why not give it to the 5 star healer the 4 star Seteth got it?

[@LovelyRemorse]

crystalline wöder

[@papasmurf789]

Been out of the game for a few years. WHAT are these Yugioh level effect boxes? 💀😭😂

[@CasualFehPlayer-rf6sl]

Flayn with her 2 range drives: exists😰 Sabotage and Feud: How bout NO! I literally have not used mine since she was released shame, Melady’s refine was definitely a surprise for sure too bad I’ve literally never got her, gotta say for me at least this entire refine batch felt underwhelming.😐 Please IS just hurry up and give me Valentia Palla’s refine I’m dying to use her again.😭💀

[@terranproulx721]

Yippee

[@llukelcs]

Let's be honest, if IS wanted to be lore accurate with Veld he would have gotten the unconditional ending the foe's action at the start of the turn (or the phase!), but I guess that would be too much for a grail unit haha would have been so annoying trying to rush and reach him, behind all those saves and bulky nukes, at turn 1 in AR-O with one less unit on your team. I'm happy for Melady, though! She's so important in FE6, she deserved that half-freeze effect! RIP Flayn.

[@Ludecil]

I'm devastated at Ilyana's refine. I would've traded any one of those of those effects for slaying. Seriously? Back to Euphoria for me, I'll only be using the refine for arena purposes.

[@RubyChiang]

At least Flayn goy a refine, Im good with anything.

[@ObadiahCorey-u7y]

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[@zhinin_rosa]

I miss the PM1 calculations info

[@Pheonixmaster1]

Calculations info? 😅

[@zhinin_rosa]

@Pheonixmaster1 like you use to do damage calcs. Like how x unit survives the meta units

[@RobotnikPlngas]

For some reason I think the global community energy was so negative towards flayn since the beginning. Its exactly what happened. So its sorta your fault. YES, YOU

[@nobunagaoda9277]

Well I wouldn't say that... it's more like how IS ruined Flayn's weapon refine making FEH community into a negative.

[@RobotnikPlngas]

@nobunagaoda9277 I jest brother. But yeah, when Flayn refine was announced I kept seeing all these "they are gonna f up flayn I just know it" I don't know what it was. And how they were right. But there they go. It happened :(

[@nobunagaoda9277]

​@@RobotnikPlngasOh I am truly sorry that you were disappointed from Flayn's bad weapon refine but fear not I bet IS can change more positive ones in the future, which it should include good amount of weapon refines update.

[@quintonwashington3946]

Vero is so back🏴‍☠️🪓 💰 This is really everything I needed and I hope this helps her stay around for a long time when I use her