Phil Donahue (2010) on Jehovah's Witnesses, Gobitis (1940) & Barnette (1943)

[@sequencerman5]

People appear to have missed the point here. It doesn't matter whether JWs are a cult or not or seen as being a denomination that might be contrary to scripture, NO ONE should have the right to force ANYONE to salute a piece of cloth!

[@chrisdurant4627]

Ye well said nice one. .j, w, well said, chap,

[@zangiefromanov2563]

First the separate you from you nation and race. That's not to bad, most people don't feel very patriotic in this global world and it is frowned upon to have any love for your race unless you are a minority. Then they will separate you from your friends, wider family and colleagues because they are of the world and under satan's influence. That's a big step but you don't want to disappoint God or the governing body right? Then you will be alienated from your close family even those under your roof because they don't share your blind obedience to the watchtower and the 8 men who run in from NYC. Now you are totally alienated from anyone who knows you, loves you, who might warn you away from the danger you are in. But that's okay you have this new family now and they are better than the old satanic ones you left behind right? Congratulation you are in a cult and are under mind control and the only people you talk to and hang around with are other mind controlled cult members all encouraging each other along in a culty eco chamber. ''My my, wasn't that a lovely article brother? How the faithful and discrete slave provide us with our spiritual food right on time.'' Once day you start to question some of the teachings as they seem in opposition to the teachings of the Christ or you hear about the rampant p@edophili@ in the cult you are cut off. Now you have nothing and nobody. All these alleged family you traded your flesh and blood family for will disown you, and will cross the road if they see you in the street. Even if they are you blood family who followed you into the cult, you are dead to them. You have no hope because the 8 cult leaders in NYC have taught you, that your Gods enemy now and He will destroy you, you belong to the devil. This is why so many JW's commit suicide. They have been slowly taken apart piece by piece over time, separated from everything they know and love. All starting with cutting them off from their nation and race. Your allegiance shouldn't be to a a piece of cloth neither should it be to a cult run by 8 men in NYC.

[@lydiahenry8266]

Definitely not a cult. Didn’t break away from another religion.

[@kenba3636]

😂 a made up religion a moron fraude of a founder

[@jg7535]

Yes, show respect where respect is due.

[@gablespressurecleaning3497]

WHEN I WENT FOR MY CITIZENSHIP INTERVIEW THE INTERVIEWER LOOKED AT MY APPLICATION AND SAID "YOURE ONE OF JEHOVAHS WITNESSES" I REPLIED YES, HE RESPONDED "I DONT LIKE YOUR RELIGION BECAUSE YOU DO NOT SALUTE THE FLAG OR PUT ON THE UNIFORM", I DID NOT RESPOND. THEN, HE ASKED ME A QUESTION AS PART OF THE EXAM FOR MY CITIZENSHIP, "TELL ME ONE OF THE AMENDMENTS IN THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES" I RESPONDED "FREEDOM OF RELIGION", STUNNED HE LOOKED AT ME WITH A GRIN AND REPLY "YOURE PROBABLY GLAD I ASKED YOU THAT QUESTION BY MISTAKE", I SIMPLY STARE BACK WITH A SMILE AND DID NOT SAY A WORD, AND WITH ONE QUESTION AND ONE ANSWER I PASSED THE TEST AND BECAME TO THIS DAY A RESPECTFUL LAW ABIDING CITIZEN OF THE UNITED STATES DESPITE MY RELIGIOUS BELIEFS.

[@wapperjaw8282]

Haha ... great story ... I have to remember this ... well hope that I can remember this ...

[@MrMwurm]

Bravo

[@Brap-pl2me]

Congrats on getting into a country you won’t defend.

[@vm1552]

Congrats on belonging to a spiritual nation that belongs a God that will eliminate war, famine, sickness, hate, poverty...in the entire planet.

[@chrisdurant4627]

Ye eell done. Bro,, jah bless ya lad.

[@bluegrassreb]

Our allegiance is to God. We will never salute ANY flag, BUT also never disrespect any flag.

[@alexshatner3907]

True servants, sincere followers of Jesus Christ, must keep separate from the political part of Satan’s world, from all nationalism and politics. Are not these also opposed to God’s kingdom? When standing before the representative of the Roman Empire, Pontius Pilate, Jesus testified: “My kingdom is no part of this world. If my kingdom were part of this world, my attendants would have fought that I should not be delivered up to the Jews. But, as it is, my kingdom is not from this source.” (John 18:36) Since neither Jesus nor his followers were part of the political world back then , , neither may Jesus’ followers be today. That the nations of the world have nothing in common with the true God can be seen from the fact that they are being gathered by the god of this world, through his inspired expressions, to the war of the great day of God the Almighty at Har- Magedon. (Rev. 16:14, 16) As the apostle Peter so well notes, Christians are aliens and temporary residents. (1 Pet. 2:11) In keeping with that fact are the words of the apostle Paul at Philippians 3:20, showing that the citizenship of Christ’s true followers is in the heavens. That is why the Christian witnesses of Jehovah do not engage in politics, nor do they buy or carry political party cards. When Jesus Christ was on earth, he set higher standards for his followers, and he refused all involvement in political or military matters. After Jesus had miraculously fed several thousand people with a few loaves of bread and two small fish, Jewish men wanted to seize him and make him a political king. But Jesus avoided them by quickly withdrawing to the mountains. (John 6:5-15) Regarding this incident, The New International Commentary on the New Testament states: “There were fierce nationalistic longings among the Jews of that period, and doubtless many of those who saw the miracle felt that here was a divinely accredited leader, who was just the one to lead them against the Romans. So they set themselves to make him king.” It adds that Jesus “decisively rejected” this offer of political leadership. Christ gave no support to any Jewish insurrection against Roman domination. Indeed, he foretold what would be the result of the revolt that would take place after his death-untold woes for the inhabitants of Jerusalem and the destruction of that city.-Luke 21:20-24. Until his Kingdom puts an end to the rule of political governments, Christ’s disciples follow his example. They render obedience to those established authorities but do not interfere in their political undertakings. (Daniel 2:44; Matthew 4:8-10) Jesus left guidelines for his disciples, stating: “Pay back, therefore, Caesar’s things to Caesar, but God’s things to God.” (Matthew 22:21) Earlier, in his Sermon on the Mount, Jesus had said: “If someone under authority impresses you into service for a mile, go with him two miles.” (Matthew 5:41) In the context of this sermon, Jesus was illustrating the principle of willing submission to legitimate demands, whether in human relations or in governmental requirements that are in harmony with God’s law.-Luke 6:27-31; John 17:14, 15 These brief guidelines were to govern the relationship between Christians and the State. In his book The Rise of Christianity, historian E. W. Barnes wrote: “Whenever, for centuries to come, a Christian was in doubt as to his duty towards the State, he turned to Christ’s authoritative teaching. He would pay taxes: the dues levied might be heavy-they became intolerable before the collapse of the Western Empire-but the Christian would endure them. He would likewise accept all other State obligations, provided he was not called upon to render unto Caesar the things that belonged to God.” It was in line with this that, a little over 20 years after Christ’s death, the apostle Paul told the Christians in Rome: “Let every soul be in subjection to the superior authorities.” (Romans 13:1) About ten years later, shortly before his second imprisonment and his execution in Rome, Paul wrote to Titus: “Continue reminding them [Cretan Christians] to be in subjection and be obedient to governments and authorities as rulers, to be ready for every good work, to speak injuriously of no one, not to be belligerent, to be reasonable, exhibiting all mildness toward all men.”-Titus 3:1, 2.

[@daylansdesigns]

Your allegiance is to the eight men in New York and the private committee that completely transformed the meaning of Jesus Christ in your falsified NWT . But I know they have you brainwashed into thinking that you were serving the one true God . I pray that you do some actual research. if you would just break out the kingdom interlinear and compare it to your New World translation it is very clear that they have mis-translated on purpose many key facets of Jesus divinity. I was raised in the false doctrine of JW. I am saved by the love of Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior.

[@ricklee5802official.1Rope_fan]

Your allegiance is to 11 men

[@annavogt826]

They were "persecuted for righteousness sake". Not because they did anything wrong. JW's are moral, decent, kind, God fearing people and they were treated so hatefully. Why? Because they wanted to worship God in "spirit and truth" and NOT give up their integrity. Saluting a piece of cloth is idolatry to us. We do NOT pledge our alliegence to a flat or piece of cloth. We respect what it represents and we would never disgrace it but we do NOT worship it.

[@connieshuga6877]

JW are not the only morally decent people on the face of the earth.

[@annavogt826]

Of course not - that wasn't the point.

[@connieshuga6877]

And JW were not the only persecuted. So were the Jews, Catholic, Gypsies, children, babies, gays and lesbians. All of these individuals are human beings, created in the image of God. With morals and decency and integrity. JW are not God's chosen, the Jews are. I salute the Flag because it represents the Freedoms we have in the United States, it doesn't mean I worship the Flag. I only worship the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.

[@annavogt826]

To JW's pledging our alliegence to a piece of cloth is idolatry. The Bible example we feel comes into play are when the three Hebrews (gods chosen people) who refused to bow down to the image that represented the state they lived in. God miraculously showed his approval by sparing their lives. God has also shown his approval of OUR stand by allowing us - through human courts - to be able to legally uphold our integrity to our beliefs. We don't tell others what stand to take, that is THEIR job, but while we love, and respect the country we all live in and are obedient to the laws if the land we live in we choose NOT to salute a flag.

[@wallysmitty8659]

+Connie Shuga THE JEWS GAVE UP THEIR RIGHT FOR PRIESTLY KINGSHIP WITH JESUS IN HEAVENLY ...WHY? THEY INSISTED TO PONTIUS PILATE THAT JESUS SHOULD BE IMPALED! A PROPHECY FORETOLD IN THE BIBLE!

[@GloucesterLGB]

To those who make negative comments about Jehovah's Witnesses, I say this: Even first-century Christians were not perfect people. In addition to more individual accounts of some failings on the part of individual Christians, Revelation chapter 2 is very candid about the shortcomings of the entire congregations of Ephesus, Smyrnia, Pergamum, and Thyatira. It is not worth defending against accusations that some embittered former Witnesses experienced at times un-Christian treatment at the hands of those claiming to be Witnesses or that it may have been mishandled among those responsible for shepherding the flock in their care. That doesn't change the fact, as Jehovah's Witnesses themselves well know from firsthand experience, that such behavior is not taught by the Bible or condoned by those who follow it as a daily guide in their lives. There will always be those who ridicule and slander - no matter how perfect any of us or the organized effort that taught the Bible to us could be represented. (Matt 5:11) No one could have been more perfect than Jesus himself and yet recall how they twisted facts to make him out to be godless and evil. (John 15:20)(2Tim 3:12)(Matt 11:19)(Luke 11:15) If you want to find imperfection and fault, as imperfect people we will surely supply you with something you can use as an excuse to dismiss what we have to say and malign us with. However, that doesn't qualify any blanket statements about Jehovah's Witnesses as a group being evil, or not engaging in relief work, condoning wrongdoing, being brainwashed, etc. etc. etc. 2Corinthians 6:8 Paul, noting that he they had according to verses 3 through 4, "...given no offense in anything that the ministry might not be blamed: But in all things approving ourselves as the ministers of God..." says "By honour and dishonour, by evil report and good report: as decievers, and YET true;" So Paul and those preaching with him had acted blamelessly and yet were accused of being decievers and recieved bad reports about themselves and their activity. Can any religious group claim to be more blameless than Paul and his fellow Christians? Yet they were plagued with 'bad reports" and false accusations. So the accusations themselves are not unexpected in a world that Jesus said "lieth in wickedness" at 1John 5:19. It is also a proven fact that it is a waste of time to try to address every single accusation for those who make it clear that they are not interested in a dialogue but simply want to publicize their disdain for Witnesses and their beliefs in a public forum. 2 Timothy 2:23 suggests that we, "Further, reject foolish and ignorant debates, knowing that they produce fights." If someone sincerely is under some mistaken belief and genuinely is open to a more complete insight, there are plenty of non-public options to address these concerns. For just one example: on the charge that Jehovah's Witnesses do not care to include disaster relief as an evidence of their Christianity, a person who genuinely wants to know whether this is true and not just out to promote a falsehood to impugn Witnesses could view: www.jw.org/en/news/releases/by-region/sri-lanka/witnesses-help-flood-victims/ www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/activities/help-community/video-clip-hurricane-sandy-relief/ www.jw.org/en/news/releases/by-region/japan/video-clip-702012006/ Often local members of assisted communities and news organizations will further corroborate the voracity of these claims, as well as we or Witnesses we know personally who were involved with the on-the-ground relief-work. The same can be said for claims that "JW's destroy families, condone child-abuse, keep changing their beliefs, make repeated preditcions as to the date of the 'end of the world', don't believe in Jesus, or any other similar claims. Otherwise, know that those accusations are slanderous and without genuine validity. Say what anyone may, but such words are not without their consequences. Neither I, nor anyone will stop someone from saying whatever they wish. If they are wrong and are putting a stumbling block before those who are seeking salvation, consider what the warning was in relation to those who were actively opposing the Apostles, in accord with Acts 5:38 & 39. The King James version says, "38 And now I say unto you, Refrain from these men, and let them alone: for if this counsel or this work be of men, it will come to nought: 39 But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God." Jesus words at Mark 9:42 also apply, "And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea." None of that could ever be twisted to suggest that dissent is being silenced with threat. If someone publishes false statements about an individual, even the courts of the land will convict the one guilty of it of slander. The point is that reckless actions have consequences and even these have ones that are clearly specified in Scripture. Not believing in those warnings will eventually prove to be as unwise as not believing in gravity - refusing to accept what we cannot see doesn't eliminate the consequences of ignoring it. The aforementioned is no more a threat than a roadsign that indicates a safe speed on an exit ramp of 25mph. The fact that many have sucessfully gone 50mph through that ramp doesn't invalidate the warning that speeds of more than 25mph may have disastrous consequences. At present, it requires faith to accept these things. Soon a time will be upon us where there will be no doubt and it will be past the time to begin accepting. (Heb 11:1) Like the exit ramp, after a 'crash' for failing to heed the warning it will be too late to make a preventative adjustment.

[@RiverDanube]

"Not believing in those warnings will eventually prove to be as unwise as not believing in gravity - refusing to accept what we cannot see doesn't eliminate the consequences of ignoring it. " You mean like believing all their predicted dates in the past for Armageddon? Think again.

[@Mellow_0007]

Well said, brother!

[@advocateforyourself]

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 Thank you, brother.

[@justinthyme3396]

It's NOT your average JW, it's the GOVERNING BODY, who are living a life of luxury at the top,continually begging for money, just Google BARBARA ANDERSON WATCHTOWER and view the videos a real eye opener to the TRUTH ABOUT THE TRUTH. They have paid millions in lawsuits re. Pedophiles in the "clean organization "...P.S. the phrase governing body not found in any version of the Bible...

[@MrJmurp]

Yes You Are Right! God Almighty & The Early Church "Did Not Hide" Their Short Comings & Their Failings! The Jehovah's Witnesses Do!

[@GoodScienceForYou]

Matthew 7:21 “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will.

[@hrh4961]

Fun fiction selection from the cobbled together collection of antique Jewish fairy tales widely known as the buy-bull(sh*t).

[@danielraymadden]

Mathew 28 : 19, 20. Jesus commanded go therefor and preach this good news of Gods kingdom to all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations and then the end will come. Who is preaching the Good news of Gods kingdom. The ones saying lord lord are not. The Watchtower Announcing Jehovahs kingdom, kingdom halls of Jehovahs Witnesses all over the world are teaching the Good News of Gods kingdom. Christendom cannot preach Gods Kingdom.

[@hrh4961]

@@danielraymadden LOL Say goodnight, Gracie.

[@j.m.3235]

My dad was expelled from school for not saluting the flag at the age of 13. Years later he ran into his teacher who helped expel him and she actually apologized to him.

[@chrisdurant4627]

When I was 12 I was ssked.to salute this sargent guy,,, I said no, lm.nt saluteing you,, he sent me to the t Edmasters, I went in side and he.pulled.the.cain.out of his draw, he asked me.why didnt.I salute him, I.said, shadderac abnigo, esisk refused to bow down to the image,,, he looked at me,, and said,,, go,,,,,on get out,, thanyou. Sir. We.a smurky cheeky smile onhis face,,, I dont no why he didnt caine to this. Day,,, let me no some one,,,,, plesde do,

[@tdomingues89]

@@chrisdurant4627 broken english

[@barbwire531]

​@@tdomingues89..well JW'S aren't well educated....so what did you expect 😂😂😂😂😂

[@elizmal533]

@@barbwire531 You obviously haven’t seen our video on blood transfusions and why we obtained from having a transfusion. The video explains blood composition and all its factions, down to the most intricate part. Many Drs. have found this video very educational. Many doctors in the medical community praise our firm stance against blood transfusion and our dedication to Jehovah because they have been challenged to find alternatives for blood during surgeries. Not just for us but for many of the surgeries they perform for millions of ppl today. These new alternatives are safer than actual blood itself. Our educated brothers put this information together and educated the world health community on this subject. Because of these humble educated brothers, you have bloodless options if you ever need surgery ( remember that). We have many doctors, lawyers, engineers etc. In fact, we have developed the ONLY technology that can simultaneously translate literature in 200+ languages. No one else has this capability. The difference between us and many “ Educated “ people of the world, is that we do not boast about our educational accomplishments. Our pride comes from our service to Jehovah. We pride ourselves in living with high moral standards that God has outlined in the Bible for EVERYONE calling themselves a christian. How many educated ppl in today’s world can say the same?!

[@pamelasloan1664]

@@barbwire531 how cruel you are, I think it's you who's uneducated in decency

[@GloucesterLGB]

Dear Brothers and Sisters, From time to time I end up following some link to a KZbin or Facebook page like this and find the comments section laced with anti-Witness slurs, accusations, and even downright slander being responded to by well-intentioned friends who feel they are making a defense of the good news. (Phil 1:7,16) I see many of you drawn in and spending a great deal of effort trying to respond to false accusations. Please consider first the words of the Daily Text for Sept 12, 2016 before deciding to make a reply to negative comments on internet forums. As tempting as it might be to want to set things straight, it is never appropriate to attempt to vindicate Jehovah's name by stooping to Satan's methods. (1Pet 3:9-15) Much of what you or I would try to convey is not only going to not be accepted by them, but doesn't even have enough basis in common with them to make sense to them. (1Cor 2:11-16) If you were to know the faceless individuals hiding behind the anonymity, you could almost guarantee that those who are inclined to spend time making such negative and at times even hateful comments against you and our life of worship, have their own agendas and motivations. There may be a few who are sincere in their beliefs. Others give evidence by their words and their tone that they are seeking to condone their own choices in their lives by finding fault with us, our worship, our beliefs, and if possible Jehovah himself. (2Cor 4:4) Keep in-mind that the Apostle Paul was such a man. (Acts 8:3, 9:1-2) If your objective is to enlighten opposers, in accord with Paul's example, it is noteworthy that none of the Christians he mistreated is ever credited with being part of Paul's readjustment - that was left to Jesus direction. (Acts 9:3-16) Have faith that the Bible says that it is God who draws people to Him. (John 6:44) If someone is 'rightly disposed', trust in God to insure that they will not be overlooked for salvation because we chose to heed the advice found in 2Timothy 2:23-26. The strongest testimony of the correctness of our own course as Jehovah's Witnesses is the very real personal relationship that we have with our Heavenly Father Jehovah - through prayer and how we have each seen how He has answered us personally in concert with our association with His organization. It was through that organization that we learned to get to know the God who called us. (John 6:37,44) We are in a better position than our detractors, who often just repeat unjustified claims they have heard read or seen, to recognize the real tangible positive effect that our association with Jehovah's Witnesses has had on our lives, how well everything we are taught harmonizes with the Scriptures, and the good 'fruitage' it has borne in our lives and others around us who are sincerely putting forth the effort to make the Truth their own.(Matt 5:48)(1Cor 6:11)(2Cor 10:4) As for former Witnesses who have left the path of life, there is almost certainly a thread of self-justification running through their complaints and accusation. Having been disfellowshipped myself, I know this personally for a fact. The Scriptures address this as well at 2Pet 2:22. Can there really be any credibility among those who failed to continue to suceed in applying what they've learned and turned away? (Luke 8:12,44) There is almost always some important personal detail that such ones seem to omit that is at the root of their crusade to attack God's people. (1Pet 4:3-4) I have been associated with Jehovah's Witnesses for over 40 years. I was baptized in the late 1970's, inactive for a period and was even disfellowshipped for almost 14 years before I came to my senses and returned to the Truth. I have had plenty of time and exposure outside of the influence of Jehovah's organization to see the contrast between the world of those who malign God's people, and those who walk in the way of the Truth. I am neither indoctrinated nor brainwashed. I am not on the Governing Body or on some commitee for the defense of Jehovah's Witnesses - just a blue-collar 'nobody', in the way the world would estimate my value. (1Cor 1:26-31) In the end, time will tell who is right and who is wrong. (Matt 25:31-46) We accept that everyone will not be convinced that we have the Truth. It is enough that we understand clearly and go on making sure of the hope we have within us. The appropriate channels for applying the preaching, teaching, and defending the Good News of the King and his Kingdom are available to us without resorting to becoming overly embroiled in time-wasting online arguments with those who are not asking sincere questions, or seeking answers to address their doubts. Better to spend our time in the ministry, family worship, prayer, or personal study of the Bible. (Eph 5:15-16)(1Thes 5:16-22)(Phil 1:10) This time spent interacting with commenters online is also 'association'. (1Cor 15:33) Therfore, it would be proper to ask ourselves individually, "Would I spend time trying to 'correct' someone like this in the ministry or would I apply Jesus words at Luke 9:5 or Matthew 10:14? This is not a judgement or failing to defend our faith, simply a wise admonition from Jesus as to how to best spend our time. Something worth considering. In harmony with my own advice, I composed this one single reply in defense of our true faith that I will simply cut&paste wherever it seems appropriate, and ignore any reply as a waste of time. (1Pet 4:7) Those fault-finders do not have any better alternative. (John 6:68) The very attitude that permeates their comments shows what sort of thinking and life they are advocating - not one of peace, love, harmony, and Christlike personalities. (John 3:19) We know our Master and where we belong. (John 10:14,27) Just keep doing what you know is right and use discernment in dealing with people who challenges. (Matt 10:16) Matthew 7:6 makes it clear with sufficiently strong language that we should be discriminating with our efforts. 　 May Jehovah continue to bless all of your ongoing efforts to serve Him and the interests of His Kingdom.

[@janicehussock7735]

Jehovah is not God's name so Jehovah cannot bless you. Further, you do the same thing you warn others about in your post. These "fault-finders' show better alternatives than a cult that directs your mind. Think, ponder, read multiple sources. Your life is not your own but is controlled by a corporation with no transparency. There are so many WT scandals. Pedophile scandals are serious. The WT is being hit with damages and has settled many. It refuses to adopt prudent measures to avoid child abuse. The WT denies knowledge and present false teachings and history. Read, ponder, think.

[@janicehussock7735]

Your Master is the governing body. You are a slave of a publishing corporation. There are so many scandals and beatings of children in Kingdom Halls. Denying blood transfusions is not love. Ignorance is not love. Christ is love. and the Truth. Not your cultlike corporation that compels you to believe or you are shown the door.

[@garydunn3037]

They are not regarded as "Masters" they are referred to as the"Faithful and discreet Slave" class, who act as servants Not Masters.

[@janicehussock7735]

The Governing Body does not act as servants. True, they do not live lavishly. They order you what to read, whom to date, what sexual practices to engage with your married spouse, how many hours to preach, what medical care you may receive. Indeed, I recall conventions where even food colors were ordered. It is an extremely authoritarian religon. I believe active Witnesses have no idea just how authoritarian it is because they do not visit other churches. Often poor and socially isolated people believe such orders are necessary or common. The Watchtower overreaches on a massive scale that shocks the conscience. If they are servants, one can politely disagree with them.Yet Witnesses may not without ending being ejected from the Kingdom Halls and losing family and friends. Some servant who orders your mind and your daily life. So many Witnesses give up basic freedom to be enslaved by the Watchtower. No apostle nor Jesus ever exercised such minute and total control in the scriptures. They claim it is for unity. There is also the claim that they are governed by the Holy Spirit. How can one objectively test guidance from the Holy Spirit? And their Holy Spirit definition is very definiton from that used by almost all other Christians. Witnesses have many strange and unique defintions for basic Bible terms. I suggest one test is success of prophecy. Witnesses have claimed so many dates for the end of the world with Armageddon. Sadly, Witnesses rely on these failed dates. They do not plan for retirement, learn basic life skills or other necessary and prudent things because Armageddon is expected. Yet it never arrives. Witnesses who read other Bibles, who ask questions are kicked out. If you discuss the pedpophile scandals or their strange sexual teachings, you are ejected. And not politely. It is an all or nothing religion. Have no doubt. If it were a casual religoin and one were free to come and go without serious personal consequencs, I would not bother to post. After a certain point, adults have a right to choose. I would never ban the Witnesses as many people want. One should know how much time, energy is demanded to the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society. No to God, Jehovah, or Christ. Jesus showed tolerance for dissenters. Witnesses tolerate no dissent. So people should be aware that the organization is not paradise on earth. It is most certainly not a zone of perfection on earth. Holy Spirit direction would not include so many failed prophecies. nor so many changes in doctrine. God's spirit would preclude a very sick pedophile policy that does not discourage such men from seeking children for sick purposes. I strongly believe that God is not against knowledge, either. God can take science and accurate information. Still, when I was very young and naive, I believe Bethel had some magic Holy Spirit power because my parents directed me to believe. Most of us grow up and leave fairy tale land behind. Witnesses are so critical of every other religion. Members of other religons are enouraged to leave their groups, investigate their claims, etc. Witnesses never think to investigate their own house. There are many sincere individual Jehovah's Witnesses who honestly believe the teachings. I do not want to disparage them. Yet at the same time, adults need to be responsible. Blind faith is never good. Informed faith is good.

[@Simon-pl2zi]

Dear Brothers and Sisters, From time to time we as Jehovahs Witnesses make many anti-religious slurs, falsely accuse others of apostasy and even downright slanderously call people Satanic, but that's ok because we are making a defense of the good news. (Phil 1:7,16) I see many of you drawn in and spending a great deal of effort trying to make our false accusations appear truthful.

[@GoodScienceForYou]

The Watchtower Magazine is delivered FREE, and has no advertising in it. All the publications and Bible studies are free and they ask for no money. There are no paid preachers, and no human in the organization makes money off this system of delivering Jehovah God's message. It is how Jehovah God Himself set this up. The Jehovah's Witnesses also do not participate in any money making ventures. No money is invested in any businesses where people are paid, as what Churches do. The only source of income comes from the preachers themselves. There are a few associates who also give, and all are free to give what they can, instead of being ordered to give or you don't get salvation as I was taught in the Baptist Church. *Every Baptized Jehovah's Witness is an ordained minister* of the Truth and work for free and these ministers are the main part of the congregation, close to 9 million are doing this work today. The Baptized ministerial servants, “publishers, elders, and all “preachers” donate their own money earned from regular jobs to the purchase of , printing presses, paper, machinery, cameras, building materials, real estate, and all that is needed to do the work that Jehovah God has directed them to do from the Bible. There are no paid ministers. The ministers actually pay to serve Jehovah, instead of being paid. This is according to scriptures. Everything is according to God's Holy Scriptures. Matthew 23:8 *But you, do not you be called Rabbi, for one is your Teacher, and all of you are brothers*. Jehovah's Witnessed do NOT MAKE ANY MONEY FROM MINISTERIAL WORK. They pay from regular jobs to support their own work. *Being a Jehovah's Witness minister means it costs you money to be a minister*. This is the opposite of what churches do in making piles of money and the preacher never contributes anything. In Jehovah's Witnesses the preachers are the givers to their own service. They make it at regular jobs and then donate what they can from their heart to the service work, serving Jehovah God's will on earth. I hope that helps you to understand how an actual Bible based organization works. It would be good for you to learn something about Jehovah's servants on earth before you tell more lies about them. You get your information from who? Paid preachers who hate Jehovah's people? It is a matter of your own salvation that you do not tell lies about them any more. Get an education direct from the ministers. Get a free Bible Study. http;//www.jw.org

[@GoodScienceForYou]

Luz A2 I pity you. You must want to die and never have life again. Proverbs 1:7 The fear of Jehovah is the beginning of knowledge. Only fools despise wisdom and discipline. Proverbs 9:10 The fear of Jehovah is the beginning of wisdom, And knowledge of the Most Holy One is understanding. Proverbs 14:27 The fear of Jehovah is a fountain of life, To turn one away from the snares of death. John 17:3 This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ. Satan is considered to be a god, worshiped by most "Christians" who mix money and God. Jehovah is the only Almighty Jehovah God. We are only to worship Jehovah, not any image or human we think is God. “You must not make for yourself a carved image or a form like *anything* that is in the heavens above or on the earth below or in the waters under the earth. You must not bow down to them nor be enticed to serve them.”-Exodus 20:4, 5. Jesus is considered to be "who is like God". But is not God. To weak degraded sinful humans he seems like God. Adam was made in the image of God. All of the Angels are like gods to us mortals living in the weakness and suffering of our sin. It is scientifically interesting that Jehovah, made sure that not one speck of Jesus was left on this planet, not one molecule of DNA was left. He knew that if his body was left here, that moron humans would put it in a box and worship it. if they dug it up today they would do DNA analysis of it. Great lengths were done, by Jehovah to see we don't worship Jesus, and he was the only man ever raised up from earth to heaven in his body. John 3:13 Moreover, no man has ascended into heaven but the one who descended from heaven, the Son of man. Matthew 7:21 “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will." It is worth noting that Jesus had to be born through a human mother to fulfill his duty. Jehovah is a God of Love and of Life. He is your savior who sent His son to save us from our degraded and disgusting condition of disease and death. We are pretty degraded according to over 10,000,000 DNA studies on humans. Do you know that every human has at min 1000 deleterious mutations that are a direct cause of disease, suffering and death? evolutionsciencenow.blogspot.com/2013/04/are-humans-getting-better-what-is.html All of the REAL data we have on humans shows the Truth of our condition. It is because I am a scientist that I understand the Bible on the molecular basis of life and health. Humans were once all like God's compared to the weak and sickly emotional, nearly extinct, creatures we have become. If you want to be restored to life in the new Heavens and the new Earth then learn what God's plan is far away from religious nonsense. God has given you His people, meek, mild, kind and obedient to his will to help you. They are teaching this Good News of God's Kingdom in all the inhabited earth. Ezra 9:6 And I said: “O my God, I feel ashamed and embarrassed to raise my face to you, O my God, for our errors have multiplied over our heads and our guilt has mounted up to the heavens." Consider that this guy was, "Ezra was born in 480 B.C. and he died in 440 B.C" That means that to us he would be considered a genius and nearly a god to modern morons. Because recent DNA analysis of ancient humans showed they were much more intelligent and far less emotional. Consider that emotions, like anger, lust, hate, fear, greed, need, are all the conditions we have increased in our much more degraded condition compared to them. And this guy was talking about how messed up he was. When you realize just how stupid and emotional you are (as we all are), and how you are controlled by fear and brainwashing easily, it is no wonder to me that you believe in fantasies and religious garbage that was part of pagan religions and is not found in the original scriptures. I am really trying to help you out of this rotten system of fear, and control put on you by your "religion". That fear was instilled in you as a child and now you cannot overcome it with any logic nor reason from scriptures. All I am offering you is the knowledge of God that is found in everything on this earth. It is clearly found in the Bible. If you don't take in the knowledge of the Almighty One True God, Jehovah, you cannot be saved according to scriptures. John 17:3 This means everlasting life, their *coming to know you, the only true God*, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ. Did you see the "AND" in that sentence? What God has to offer you is far greater than any religious nonsense pretends to offer you. He promises to "fix" us and restore us to health and to get us back to the original plan before Adam decided to play God, like you seem to want to do. If you want freedom and the joy of life, you need to let God "fix" you now. Imagine all you weaknesses, anger, lust, fear, hate, and all those things that make you hate other people, would be gone and you would live in peace forever. That is what Jehovah offers you. But you are hung up on some religious crap, put there by greedy kings, politicians and greedy preachers. Why is it so difficult for you to get free from that level of degraded thought and try to find out what Jehovah's Thoughts are. Ezra 9:6 And I said: “O my God, I feel ashamed and embarrassed to raise my face to you, O my God, for our errors have multiplied over our heads and our guilt has mounted up to the heavens." If Ezra can say that when he was far healthier and far more intelligent than any modern human, what do you think our condition is like now? Are you going to let your condition of weakness and sin keep you from Jehovah God, simply because he is not found in your religions emotional bag of death?

[@GoodScienceForYou]

Donna Smith Your life depends on the Truth. You risk everything because of your needs to believe in lies. It doesn't matter what you believe. What matters is the truth. Because; There are no truthful sources about Jehovah's People, because they are threats to most false religions that exist only to serve money. The Jehovah's Witnesses books and all donations are public information. Why don't you know this? They teach all Jehovah's Witnesses not to promote war or death in any way. It is rare to find any Jehovah's Witness working even for a subcontractor supplier of military. Jehovah's Witnesses have done more for religious freedom in the USA and the world than any other organization. If you hate Jehovah's people, then you cannot be a Christian. You hate of Jehovah's people gives you a direct scriptural reward. Psalm 81:15 Those who hate Jehovah will cringe in his presence, And their outcome will be forever. Romans 6:23 For the wages sin pays is death, but the gift God gives is everlasting life by Christ Jesus our Lord. People like you are prophesied in the Bible. Psalm 9:13 Show me favor, O Jehovah; see my affliction by those hating me, You who raise me from the gates of death, Psalm 118:7 Jehovah is on my side as my helper; I will look in triumph on those who hate me. But thoseDeuteronomy 7:10 who hate him he will repay to their face with destruction. He will not be slow to deal with those who hate him; he will repay them to their face.

[@GoodScienceForYou]

Luz A2 It does not matter what you believe, what matters is the Truth!

[@GoodScienceForYou]

Donna Smith You know, literally nothing about Jehovah's people. You get your information from people who make money from selling Jesus. This means eternal life or eternal death, if you don't get this right. You cannot present yourself as clean unless you can follow the commandments of God. You cannot enter God's Kingdom if you are unfit to be there. This is Jehovah God's law. And you must worship God with a clean heart without all that hate you have for Jehovah's people. There are more women ministers in Jehovah's organization than men. In order for you to enter the Kingdom of God you must clean your heart of all hate, and have a loving heart. You must realize that in this world ruled by Satan, God understands our plight and the sins of man. That is why he gave all of us a way out and it is a *very narrow path*. You cannot enter the Kingdom of God with hate in your heart for anyone nor any group. You must let Jehovah's Grace through Jesus wipe away all that emotional pain. It all comes from emotional pain. When you hate others is only destroys you. 1 John 4:11 Beloved ones, if this is how God loved us, then we are also under obligation to love one another. 1 John 4:12 No one has seen God at any time. If we continue loving one another, God remains in us and his love is made perfect in us. 1 John 4:7 Beloved ones, let us continue loving one another, because love is from God, and everyone who loves has been born from God and knows God. 1 Thessalonians 4:9 However, concerning brotherly love, you do not need us to write to you, for you yourselves are taught by God to love one another. John 15:12 This is my commandment, that you love one another just as I have loved you. John 13:34 I am giving you a new commandment, that you love one another; just as I have loved you, you also love one another. God is LOVE and He will not allow any anger, hate, war, killing disease, fear, and stupidity in the New Kingdom. It will be free of all those types of people. You are not saved until the Grace of Jehovah removes all that Satan has given to you from this rotten system that Satan owns. All the emotionalism = death. Romans 13:8 Do not owe anything to anyone except to love one another; for whoever loves his fellow man has fulfilled the law. It is a matter of life or death that you learn to forgive. Just as you are forgiven by God, you must do the same to your enemies. 1 Peter 4:8 Above all things, have intense love for one another, because love covers a multitude of sins. Deuteronomy 6:5 You must love Jehovah your God with all your heart and all your soul and all your strength. 28 One of the scribes who had come up and heard them disputing, knowing that he had answered them in a fine way, asked him: “Which commandment is first* of all?” 29 Jesus answered: “The first is, ‘Hear, O Israel, Jehovah* our God is one Jehovah,* 30 and you must love Jehovah* your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul* and with your whole mind and with your whole strength.’ 31 The second is this, ‘You must love your neighbor as yourself.’+ There is no other commandment greater than these.” It is a matter of great urgency that you get this right. You will never enter God's Kingdom if you hate God's people. It is a matter of life and death. If you want the Truth about Jehovah's people there is only one place you can find it. In Jehovah's people. Get a Free Bible study and find out what the Truth really is. www.jw.org

[@GoodScienceForYou]

***** I am sorry, but that is not English you are using. There are NO PAID ministers in Jehovah's and Christ's people.

[@stefeeze]

It's truly amazing how people go out of there way to disrespect Jehovah's Witnesses when Witnesses on the other hand go out of there way to encourage people to serve God.

[@SpecialPioneerSmerf]

Serving god by obeying the Governing Body, and if you don't you will die a horrible death when said WatchTower GOD kills you at Armageddon.

[@RootTilden]

Stephon Graham My learned opinion as a constitutional scholar and born-in Witness who fled is that Witnesses go out of their way to encourage people to worship Jehovah and the Governing Body. Christ is not worshiped No, Witnesses consciously lie about scripture. They misappropriate the scripture to back up wacko doctrine. Please..

[@greenribbon49]

Really? A JW once called me a nationalist pig for serving in the military.

[@greenribbon49]

It has been my experience that JW go out of their way to disrespect the Faith and Beliefs of others. I am Catholic and would get home from Mass with them waiting for me at the end of my driveway. It took me a year to chase them away.

[@RootTilden]

Witnesses are reviled for annoying people at home, preaching at work until employers tell them to stop or be fired. Although I am not Roman Catholic, but High Church Episcopal, former Witnesses always comment about the utter rubbish we were taught about the Roman Catholic Church. Pope Francis is Christian, the WT Governing Body is not. We are entitled to our opinions and beliefs, regardless of your Witness sensibilities. Further, you are not supposed to be watching a KZbin apostate video. We have freedom. You do not. Freedom often invites envy.

[@SuzanneTegroen]

im studying and i love Jehovah and jesus his son and he has made my life fuller now !

[@deeb2021]

Don't listen or reply to the haters and slanderers, they have nothing to offer you. Can they direct you to the path that leads to life? No they cannot. @ Xana bumblebee.

[@donaldmartin7719]

Did u make it to Baptism?

[@onesunnyday5699]

RUN!!! DON'T DO IT!! IT'S A CULT!! You can love God & Jesus & believe, just don't get baptized into the cult!!!

[@SteamAllchill]

@@deeb2021 🤣🤣

[@jackmi2733]

A very balanced presentation of the facts. So rare in todays world !!

[@wylolister3218]

JWs "truth"? "Jehovah's Witnesses, in their eagerness for Jesus' second coming, *have suggested dates that turned out to be incorrect."* Awake 1993 Mar 22 page4 *Jehovah’s Witnesses have had wrong expectations about when the end would come.* Jan 1, 2013 Watchtower "Does this admission of making mistakes stamp them [Jehovah's Witnesses] as false prophets? Not at all, for false prophets do not admit to making mistakes." Watchtower, Nov. 1, 1972, page 644 - in brackets added Admitting to making false prophecies doesn't magically change them, they are Bible defined false prophecies (Deut 18:2-0-22) Very poor reasoning, probably why JWs "suggested dates" and went beyond scripture. "suggested dates, wrong expectations" ARE false prophecies. God's channel of communications, his voice on earth, God's mouthpiece, JWs? Nope just a false religion!

[@angelarequinala6908]

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[@williamhughmurraycissp8405]

Balance is what he is known for. He not only could present both sides of any argument, he appreciated both sides.

[@leonardmiller2336]

Phil i used to do what your talking about ridiculing the JW's calling them what ever came into our mouths and minds at the time we did not treat them well at all, but geuss what today i am a Jehovah's Witness and i love my faith and practice it dilligently, and i don't care what others think or say

[@leonardmiller2336]

It doesn't make the faith wrong just some men being human and imperfect, The faith as a hole is the truth and shal always be

[@leonardmiller2336]

@roger schmidt one thing i am not is gulible The worlds greatest synic yes but gulible no

[@MorningDove]

You put a big smile on my face brother when I read your comment. I have met some nasty, cranky people who smiled at first until they realized I am Jehovah's Witness. I left happy knowing I am serving my God in the best way I can. Now I will also remember what you said and hopefully these people will one day serve Jehovah too just like you 😊

[@daylansdesigns]

⁠@@leonardmiller2336 there’s no Jehovah’s Witness that’s not gullible that’s a faithful witness… because study of the Greek and Hebrew with the kingdom interlinear and the New World translation you will clearly see the Jehovah’s Witnesses have intentionally replaced the loving respect of Jesus Christ for eight men in New York… Lots of people go on about all of the pervasive child molestation that Jehovah’s Witnesses have permitted for decades … yes all of your loving brothers and elders are hiding information from you about pedophiles in your congregations… when they get called the court, they have their legal counsel lied to the courts so blatantly that they get sanctioned. I pray for you, just like I pray for my deceived family.

[@joecaruana5036]

A witness girl and a non-witness girl were both told to spit on the flag. You know what happened? The non-Witness girl DID spit on the flag. The Witness girl did NOT. When asked why she didn't she said 'Although I cannot salute the flag because that's idolatry, my parents taught me to respect the flag.' Which girls behaviour do you think is more acceptable?

[@greenribbon49]

Is that a true story? I do not know one single American who would spit on the American Flag.

[@joecaruana5036]

Connie Shuga​ Yes its true. However we are talking about children who often follow the instructions of a teacher without thinking, or because they don't understand. That is what I teach my children, to respect the flag.

[@greenribbon49]

+Joe Caruana I feel that this is the United States of America. We may be far from innocent but I was born on this soil. The Flag represents the Freedoms I have. The men and women who fought to make this country what is. I will stand for Flag and I will Salute since I served in the Army, my brother and father served as well. We have unimaginable rights that no other country has. To spit on the Flag is sacrilege. I also think it is wrong to not register when a young man turns 18. I am at least glad that you are teaching respect. But on you going to sit on your butt if we are attacked again? I can't serve again because I am disabled. Regarding me, my family and our property I will do whatever it takes to protect my family. Knowing full well I will answer to God in the end.

[@greenribbon49]

+Joe Caruana Have you read the letters the Witnesses wrote to Hitler saying why they shouldn't be arrested? They are very interesting.

[@joecaruana5036]

Connie Shuga No, I havent seen those letters. There were some who did compromise. I personally know one elderly Greek man who was tortured in Greece around 25 years ago because he wouldnt renounce his faith. They tied him and beat his feat with a stick until he'd fall unconscious from the pain. But there are hypocrites everywhere even among us. Some are just keeping the seat warm. To these ones its just a big social club. I've had trouble from hypocritical 'brothers' even some hypocritical elders. And I've stood up to these. But the same problems happened in the 1st century congregation. Indeed when Christ comes, a number will get a big surprise. Matt 16:27. The teachings are not wrong because some refuse to apply them. We ourselves need to keep integrity to God.

[@annavogt826]

This little Globitas boy was imitating the behavior of Shadrack, Meeshak and Abendego when they refused to bow to the immense image in a symbolic worship. Same thing!

[@Jwhelpisontheway]

Oh dear!!! with all the lies that jehovah's witnesses teach you think they were obeying God. 140 years of being false prophets yeah God is happy 😉

[@naomianson1335]

Anna Vogt, I think you should look into how your religion started and how Russell used symbols, the occult, and a magic pyramid to come up with dates for the end of the "system of things"...none of which came true. False prophets are false prophets.

[@annavogt826]

Very familiar with the history of Jehovah's organization. Even historians are amazed at what this organization has been able to accomplish through the years. Even Phil Donahue is not blind to the faith of Jehovah's people - even the faithful children.

[@bowrudder899]

Except that Shadrack, Meeshak and Abendego believed in the one true God, whereas JWs don't. Otherwise it's the same.

[@annavogt826]

JW's believe in ONE God -Jehovah, not the trinitarian gods of Christendom.

[@renaislam4820]

It is a matter of justice ,to have a paradise that will be only for harmless people, those who have been trained by Him by means of His Holy Scriptures. He can't put poisonous snakes in a rabbits cage. So He will simply delete those that don't want to submit to his loving rules. They will be evicted from our beautiful planet. There will be no more pain and suffering. Revelation 21:3, 4.

[@vincentsaunders5617]

Jehovah doesn't deliver his faithful people from every thing Satan's system throws at them but his holy spirit will help them to remain faithful even to death because God has promised they'd be resurrected into Jehovah's new world order governed by Jesus a flawless, world uncorupt.

[@D800Lover]

Try find a religion, let alone individuals, that obey the divine command "they will be taught by Jehovah and learn war no more." WHO DOES THAT TODAY?

[@wylolister3218]

“The indisputable facts, therefore, show that the “time of the end” began in 1799; that the Lord’s second presence began in 1874.” - The Watchtower, March 1, 1922 For the Lord Jesus is now invisibly present on earth, establishing his kingdom. - The Watchtower November 1, 1922 p. 339 The Truth that THE GOLDEN AGE stands for is that Christ Jesus returned to earth in 1874, and that His kingdom is in process of construction before our very eyes. - The Golden Age March 25, 1925 p. 407 "The Watchtower has consistently presented evidence to honesthearted students of Bible prophecy that Jesus’ presence in heavenly Kingdom power began in 1914." Watchtower 1993 Jan 15 p.5 "A religion that teaches lies cannot be true." Watchtower 1991 Dec 1 p.7 I must agree!!!

[@Michael-dq8xc]

@@wylolister3218 what's your religion?

[@deeb2021]

Only Jehovahs witnesses.

[@wylolister3218]

@@deeb2021 Only JWs can claim to be God's mouthpiece and 8.5 million follow this kind of "truth" * "accurate knowledge" LOL. "Jehovah's Witnesses, in their eagerness for Jesus' second coming, have suggested dates that turned out to be incorrect." Awake 1993 Mar 22 page4 Jehovah’s Witnesses have had wrong expectations about when the end would come. Jan 1, 2013 Watchtower "Does this admission of making mistakes stamp them [Jehovah's Witnesses] as false prophets? Not at all, for false prophets do not admit to making mistakes." Watchtower, Nov. 1, 1972, page 644 - in brackets added Admitting to making false prophecies doesn't magically change them, they are Bible defined false prophecies (Deut 18:2-0-22) Very poor reasoning, probably why JWs "suggested dates" and went beyond scripture. "suggested dates, wrong expectations" ARE false prophecies. God's channel of communications, his voice on earth, God's mouthpiece, JWs? Nope just a false religion!

[@D800Lover]

@@wylolister3218 - There is nothing wrong with "dates" - only the attitude that some have towards them. I looked into this and found that these "dates" were *not* actually predictions of the end of the world. But if you take a bit of truth and then distort it, then it becomes a lie, a dangerous lie. For example, 1914 brought about the deadliest war in all human history, but it wasn't about predicting the 'end' of the world, but rather the 'end' of what is called the 'Gentile Times' and while it sounds similar, it is not. I can go through all these "dates" and see the same pattern, distortions lead to lies. Using the false prophet accusation is just so cowardly weak. Even if you could make a case for somebody to have been wrong, that still doesn't make them a false prophet, just wrong. Who has not been wrong some times? You have religions that have supported wars and genocides, they are indeed the true false prophets, they are the deadly ones. *The worst crimes in all history has been committed in the name of God.* Many teach that God sends them to a burning hell and tortured forever. They make God into a monster. Look how many times the Apostles made errors, made wrong assumptions, and Peter denied Jesus three times. *Peter must have been a false prophet* would be the conclusion. Rubbish! *This is about putting other people down and make themselves feel elevated and superior. Pick on a weak perceived target, that is what cowards do. But God looks on and the cowards will get their just desert.*

[@rhonda6791]

My mother’s cousin was abused by her husband. JW came to the door one day and saved her life. Much respect for them.

[@wylolister3218]

Too bad about all the false prophecies, letting members die, sexual child abuse,ect in this cult. Good for her but...

[@rhonda6791]

@@wylolister3218 And which church is innocent of these things?

[@wylolister3218]

@@rhonda6791 My comment must have disappeared but here it is again. The Bible says that what comes from your mouth is what defiles you. Not that it's ok if others do it too. The JWs couldn't be a religion without making false claims and stating dates found nowhere in the Bible. *JWs claim to follow the Bible and yet* no Bible I know of says anything about 1799,1844,1874,1879, 1914,1915, 1918, 1919, 1925, 1936, 1940's, 1950's, 1960's,1975, 2000,ect. JWs call their literature "food FROM God", repeat "food FROM God" yet it has these false dates.

[@wylolister3218]

@@rhonda6791 As far as child sex abuse, governments are investigating JWs and Catholics not for being like other religions. They are being investigated for how they "handle" these claims. Hide, lie, deny,ect. Please research Jehovah's Witnesses and molesting or sexual child abuse.

[@rhonda6791]

@@wylolister3218 When religions have autonomy they have the power as you said to hide their crimes. And what a lot of crimes they inflict on the innocent. But I know they saved my mother’s cousins life for which I am grateful. Being a JW is not for me but she lived a long and happy life. And never tried to convert anyone.

[@d800lover5]

It's pretty obvious what Phil would be thinking about what is happening right now in Russia. Thanks Phil, you have a heart.

[@pearlclark5494]

Jw love their children &they want Best for them both children& parents obey Jehovah regards the sanctity of blood they willingly obey their loving heavenly father

[@TheHonestPeanut]

Except this was from 2010.

[@joeyjackson6527]

@@debbie8023 do you know how many complications result from blood transfusions? And death is not the end. Obedience is paramount.

[@deeb2021]

@@debbie8023 your comment sounds more arrogant than any witness ive ever heard. JW only speak Jehovahs words .The scriptures command that they do this. The scriptuures warn about taking blood of animal or human into our bodies. As far as Russia , what would you from expect from a communist party that are atheists , dont believe in God. .

[@praisetheLord2377]

Romans 3:10 10 As it is written: “There is no one righteous, not even one; Romans 6:23 23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. Romans 5:8 But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 10:13 For whoever calls on the name of the Lord will be saved. Romans 3:23-24 23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, 24 being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,

[@TheCaledonianBoy]

Well done Phil. This dark part of American history is not well known

[@williamhughmurraycissp8405]

I would have expected no less. Public discourse in America suffered hugely when he retired from public life.

[@growthandunderstanding]

Yes, AND that history continued and continues in various ways.

[@annavogt826]

Jehovah's witnesses do exactly the same work Jesus did. People hate us just as they hated Jesus. Phil Donahue can't help but respect and admire something he knows most people could not stand up to like the Witnesses did. We are moral, peaceful, peaceable people who are simply trying to share Bible truth with those who are being misled by false religion. We do it out of love for God and our neighbor.

[@TheDarkMikado]

Better read up on the Governing Body's double-standard in reference to Malawi and Mexico, before you speak about love for your neighbours. See, that's the thing about JWs. Great people, but ruled by a corrupt and morally empty set of leaders with a long and terrible history of false predictions, vicious attacks and smear campaigns, profiteering, bloodguilt, assumptions and sick delusions of being a pipeline to God. And therein lies the conundrum. For as good as you, and many Witnesses are, your religion was built on a house of lies, fallacies and corrupt practices.

[@simonrankin9177]

I admire witnesses ,I am not one ,I like anna Vogt and her comments ,it makes me sad when so many people find hatred for Jehovah people ,strict religions are needed otherwise people just do as they like and that's not gods way...

[@annavogt826]

Simon Rankin Thanks for your comments Mr. Rankin. We believe in doing things God's way - not the ways of imperfect men. I'm glad you can appreciate that. Bless you.

[@RootTilden]

Anna Vogt People do not hate you. We laugh at you. Witnesses are not on the job of being Christian. They lie massively and are such idiot/ignorant fools that they can never threaten Christianity or western democracy. We allow you some freedoms in the greater interest of western democratic thought. See Machiavelli and Plato, Rousseau. Sartre and Camus. We are monitoring you and North Korea. Don't flatter yourself. Witnesses don't stand up for rights. They cave in like dutiful sheep to the Governing Body's latest New Light. The world sees it clearly. You are not worthy of hate. Hatred is reserved for true fiends, not mindless sheep. I would rather be a goat anyday. Will Jesus really condemn goats when he comes again in power and glory? Jesus of Nazareth was a goat. He was crucified because he was a goat. I suggest that Christ will embrace the goats and tell the sheep to work harder. Blind faith in ignorance is not faith. It is blind, ignorant, and dangerous. Love? Praying for the imminent destruction of humans and animals is not love. Checking out homes to move into after such destruction is not love. Christ agrees. You are the apostate. I am not.

[@garydunn3037]

You are so right Anna, I personally have known many JW's for over 40 years now, and they are a really Peace loving organization. I have attended some of their Conventions, and there is a real feeling of Peace and Unity among them. People from all Races and Nationalities all at Peace, and in unity with one another.

[@IMJW1000]

JEHOVAH IS OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS The expression translated from the two words Yehwah′ Tsidh·qe′nu, found at Jeremiah 23:6 and 33:16. Jeremiah 23:5, 6 is a Messianic prophecy describing the future king sprouting from David’s line to “execute justice and righteousness in the land.” Since he rules as God’s representative (even as David, and others, sat “upon Jehovah’s throne” as God’s anointed king; 1Ch 29:23), the prophecy says, “This is his name with which he will be called, Jehovah Is Our Righteousness.” There is no basis for claiming, as some have, that this means that Jesus, the Messiah, and Jehovah are the same, forming one God. This can be seen from the fact that the similar Messianic prophecy at Jeremiah 33:14-16 applies the identical expression to Jerusalem, saying: “And this is what she will be called, Jehovah Is Our Righteousness.” In both cases the expression shows that God’s name, Jehovah, placed both upon his promised king and upon his chosen capital, is a guarantee of their righteousness. Moreover, the justice and righteousness emanating from or expressed by these sources are the product of full devotion to Jehovah and his divine will, bringing Jehovah’s blessing and direction.

[@Mellow_0007]

@Roy No, it wasn't. You may need to further your research a bit more.

[@julietmwanza646]

I will still remain a j.w no matter what. I am not being forced but I chose to be.proud j.w

[@wylolister3218]

Says most cult followers.

[@blackbird396]

So why are you on here watching this?

[@wylolister3218]

Yes, JWs are a cult. Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, and 7th Day Adventists plus other religious movements all come from the same small 300 mile geographical area in western New York state called the "Burned Over District' (because of religious zealots) and formed at roughly the same time period in America's history. JWs, Mormons and 7th Day Adventists all claim to be the "true" religion. They formed halfway around the world from where God made his laws and Jesus walked the earth. A cult is a real thing. 99.99% of all people in a cult claim that they are not in a cult! *Yes, JWs are a cult!*

[@vince2370]

You should be a follower of the commandments of GOD,not a religion.

[@vince2370]

@@wylolister3218 They all originated from the Millerite movement.

[@carlosarturo4816]

Much respect to Phil Donohue.

[@JesusChrist-im8xy]

Explain...

[@Simon-pl2zi]

hard to respect anyone who defends a high control cult.

[@joecaruana5036]

As regards how my wife and I have taught our children about whether to sing the national anthem or the flag salute: My younger daughter got frightened at morning assembly once, so she sung with the others. We did NOT hit her or scold her in any way. We prayed to Jehovah through Christ with her, and gently helped her to reason on the matter. We also reason on all things, including helping them to see WHY God thinks that sex before marriage is wrong. That is the way you help your children to make the truth their own. You can't force anyone.

[@greenribbon49]

I agree that teachers should prepare and teach what our National Anthem means. However, I believe that the National Anthem should be sung. If not, at least stand while it is being sung

[@joecaruana5036]

Connie Shuga To me, one of the saddest things in this world is that we are divided into nations. When it comes down to basics, we are all the same. We feel the same pain of heart. We all descend from Noah.

[@greenribbon49]

That is part is true.

[@GoodScienceForYou]

+Connie “Silver” Shuga Every body has a very short sickly life, in case you have no eyes to see? Somehow this idea that being treated by doctors (artificial life support) and then dying at some young age of 80 is "normal"? How is it possible for people to believe that? What exactly is wrong with my statements? If you can correct me using scriptures and actual physical evidence, would be fine. The loving thing to do is to tell the Truth. Without Jehovah, that is your reward. It is our inheritance from all the sins we got from our ancestors: death. evolutionsciencenow.blogspot.com/2014/10/what-is-human-sin-and-where-is-it.html When people are so degraded that there is no hope for them and they have no signs of having any eyes to see with, you have to let them go, and according to scriptures you have to tell them it means life or death that they get this right. The wages of sin is death. That is why we die from some 17000 genetic diseases we inherited from our ancestors who were just as stupid to cause fetal mutations in offspring as we do now. Germ line mutations are caused by diseased lifestyles. Only now it is 10 times the speed of acceleration of the numbers of new diseased every 30 years.. The Truth becomes more obvious to some (very few according to scriptures) people, but you have to tell them what it is. Then when crap happens they realize I was telling them the Truth. If no one ever tells them the Truth, then when crap happens, they have no clue and are even more lost and confused living in despair. I am a scientist so I deal in evidence and facts to back up what I say. People are so stupid today that they are ground into this idea that living for 80 years and being sickly needing medical aids all along is "normal". That this sickly body, is somehow "good". It breaks easily, catches every new virus there is and dies very young. There is nobody I have met over 80 who said being old was "so much fun". Normally it is; "Old age is not for wussies." And they will all tell you their life was extremely short. Yet they want life. This is because life was instilled in us at the beginning. As the Bible states; "eternity is in their hearts". sciencereligionpolitics.blogspot.com/2014/12/religions-and-first-lie-ever-told.html evolutionsciencenow.blogspot.com/2014/04/absolute-morality-what-is-it-by-james.html Death is not normal. Death is part of our diseased existence in which we have defied God for thousands of years. It started with Adam and Eve who decided they wanted to "be like God and know good and evil". Since then the "good" has waned and the evil has taken over, obviously. Even worse people are so degraded they think that "evil is good". According to medical doctors, modern humans, especially, white Caucasians could not live in the wild with no technology, no medical, no vaccines, no antibiotics, no drugs, no surgery, for more than 15 years. And massive deaths of children with no vaccines. The merciful and loving thing to do is to point out these facts to people who are living in some fantasy world of delusion put there by lies and lying to themselves. And so many "well meaning" people who say they love you, but are ignorant as a box of rocks. This includes all of Christendom, Academia, and those who follow all the lies of this rotting world. sciencereligionpolitics.blogspot.com/2014/12/who-is-babylon-great-now.html And the way out is very easy, once you realize how messed up this all is, it is easy to stop doing the things that destroy life and join in with Jehovah's Kingdom. You see Jehovah is setting up a new Kingdom on Earth and in Heaven. It is happening right now. All of the prophesies of the Bible show this, and my evidence shows that humans don't have long before extinction. No one who promotes, disease, suffering and death will be allowed to live in God's new Kingdom. The sins (compulsions and desires) that bind us to everlasting death can be removed by the Grace of Jehovah through the Death of His Son. This shows amazing love of Jehovah God for us. We certainly don't deserve any of it. Jesus came to remove your sins so that you may live. Not for you to continue to sin and die. evolutionsciencenow.blogspot.com/2014/10/what-is-human-sin-and-where-is-it.html It means your eternal life, or your eternal death that you learn to stop destroying life out of ignorance. Every sinful action is associated with disease, suffering and death. If you want to live, all you have to do is to ask Jehovah to save you with all your heart and soul and mind. Then have convictions that you want to align with Jehovah's Laws for life, and not listen to the emotional baggage in your mind. If you want eternal death, you have that as the reward of the gift of our ancestors who followed Satan's ideas of "religion" and "good".. The Bible is the inerrant word of the Living God, Jehovah. It has the information to save you. Nothing else does. I know I have been to the most revered places on earth and they all Teach from the Bible. Even the Siddha Masters of India, a lineage that goes back 6000 years.

[@greenribbon49]

I have already accepted Christ as my Lord and Saviour. I already have Eternal Life because I believe in Christ and that He is Lord.

[@willchacon5888]

Satan has blinded the minds of the unbelievers.

[@deeb2021]

@ will chacon Agree , Revelation 12: 9 says " satan is Misleading the entire inhabited EARTH

[@wylolister3218]

@@deeb2021 *"… spiritual food provided by God through the faithful slave."* Watchtower 1992 Nov 15 p.20 *"Jehovah's Witnesses, in their eagerness for Jesus' second coming, have suggested dates that turned out to be incorrect."* Awake 1993 Mar 22 page4 *Jehovah’s Witnesses have had wrong expectations about when the end would come.* Jan 1, 2013 Watchtower False spiritual utterances is not the mark of a true religion!

[@DarkFemEnergy222]

Did satan tell you that?

[@zwarriorism]

That took courage to say what he did too..Good for him..:)

[@wylolister3218]

"Jehovah's Witnesses, in their eagerness for Jesus' second coming, have suggested dates that turned out to be incorrect." Awake 1993 Mar 22 page4 Jehovah’s Witnesses have had wrong expectations about when the end would come. Jan 1, 2013 Watchtower "Does this admission of making mistakes stamp them [Jehovah's Witnesses] as false prophets? Not at all, for false prophets do not admit to making mistakes." Watchtower, Nov. 1, 1972, page 644 - in brackets added Admitting to making false prophecies doesn't magically change them, they are Bible defined false prophecies (Deut 18:2-0-22) Very poor reasoning, probably why JWs "suggested dates" and went beyond scripture. "suggested dates, wrong expectations" ARE false prophecies. God's channel of communications, his voice on earth, God's mouthpiece, JWs? Nope just a false religion!

[@nexus1g]

You're a true Witness. I respect what you guys do, and always have done, in the face of such intolerance and hatred. While I'm an agnostic-atheist myself, I find inspiration in our Founding Fathers, the United States and the freedoms and liberty it provides a home for. Jehovah's Witnesses have done so much to maintain the freedoms and liberties that our nation is known for. Keep up the good work, and keep your head held high knowing you're doing the best you can.

[@tammiep45]

When I was 10 my teacher only asked me to stand for the pledge I refused my mother stood up for me I stood in the hall when pledge was said I loved her for that.

[@kuzinvknee3318]

@Shovern : So how many times did you have to Repeat third Grade?? Can't you understand that Tammie did not punctuate. She should have though.

[@deeb2021]

@ Tammy powell Your mother did right. JW stand for the pledge showing respect. So many haters on here . Jehovah hates malicious lies and slander.

[@kuzinvknee3318]

@@deeb2021 : However there are a few who are not, but are just curious about us. So they need help and I get some positive responses from them when I correctly state our beliefs with scriptural evidence. They go to websites like this to get information, and these haters poison their minds. I try to help them.

[@MrMwurm]

Standing for truth, righteousness, loyalty, uprightness, this is always better than falling for anything. Jehovah remembers your faithfulness. If ever we stumble or fall down, get up brush yourself off and keep going,"firm and determined in this time of the end........."

[@R.Oates7902]

@Tammie Powell-Bishop I was a Witness in the Western U.S. and we could STAND for the pledge. It was OK to do it there. We didn't put our hands on our hearts, of course. What do you think about that? You were treated like trash for NOTHING!!

[@karenm3816]

I always knew he was a smart man and he proved it in this video....kudos to Phil who honestly answered what he truly believes about these beautiful people!

[@pandabear7426]

Really enjoyed this video.. Very honest observation of faith and the right to faith. Nice to see someone make an unbiased observation.

[@josephribaudo1173]

im really surprised at him, i always thought he was always a liberal pest , but now i see he is a wonderful fair man , thanks phil.

[@kimkelly5512]

When I was in school, my parents went each year to let the teacher know that I wouldn't be saluting the flag. They gave scriptures on explaining why, I was also taught to show respect as well. Stand quietly be respectful.

[@paulb4496]

In the early 1960's my brother and I were in the same class in Summer school and the Teacher made an example of us. She made us move our desks out in the hall. All because we wouldn't salute the flag. The teacher called us Communists. My Uncle was a tailgunner on a B 17 and our Dad built Air Strips on Luzon in the Philippines (Under Combat Conditions). We were taught to be Obedient to Jesus's Kingdom. We were to be Obedient to man's government as long as it didn't Violate God's Laws.

[@kimkelly5512]

@@paulb4496 I am sorry that your teacher did that to you, I know a lot of kids went through terrible times. Being expelled from school and bullied. But know this that Jehovah and his son Jesus were very proud of you both, for making a stand. I came from a military family as well but by the time I went to school, we didn't have it as bad as you. I was taught to respect the flag, but not worship it. Some people don't know the difference.

[@ohgawd]

Lucky you! We weren't allowed to stand! Not for the flag salute nor the national anthem. Took a lot of abuse for this cult of pedophilia.

[@Hakltz]

Phil, you have gone up hundred fold in my eyes.....well done!!!!!

[@paulconcadora9395]

And show me in the bible, where it says do not solute any flags for any person of any ages, is it a commandment, show me,

[@randalllake2785]

What an outstanding, unusual interview.

[@iananderson3294]

An honest interview with an honest man who when young saw the difference between false religion and the TRUE religion.

[@Simon-pl2zi]

yeah he is so convinced yet he is not a Jehovah's Witness.

[@janicehussock7735]

Yeah. Phil is not serving at Bethel or pioneering. There is no "true" religion. The truth about the Truth. Trademark.

[@iananderson3294]

+Janice Hussock Matthew 10 v 40-42 have a read coz it must be difficult to hear something positive being said about JWs but the guess when you hate the truth you just can't help it goodbye.

[@iananderson3294]

+Si mon and your so convinced your watching something positive about JWs lol

[@Simon-pl2zi]

Ian Anderson wow are you really that angry? I watched this video our of curiosity, I was interested in Donohue's opinion, how does that bring in to question my convictions? It doesnt.

[@nigetom208]

It's refreshing to hear a celebrity like Phil Donahue talk about his experience about JW. Having what seemed like a profound hate as a young man, to expressing admiration and respect. This is like in a way Paul, who hated Christians, then coming to an understanding and expressing respect and love for the God they believe in.

[@janicehussock7735]

Nige Tom, He is not talking about his experince as a Jehovah's Witness. Phil is merely talking about western freedoms that Witneses would deny to others. Robert Jackson was highly educated and accomplished. He would be appalled that someone thought him a Witness. Phil donahue is no JW. Get a life and get a grip.

[@deeb2021]

@@janicehussock7735 I think you are the one one that needs to get a life and stop your lies about a decent group of people that love God and their fellow humans. Your reply to Nige Tom dosent even make sense as he never implied that phil Donahue was a JW. Read the comment again. And then read yours. .

[@janicehussock7735]

Dee, I am a Christian. You are a Witness. I am a lawyer who has devoted most of my life to civil liberties and rights, including the rights of cult-like groups such as Witnesses. If anyone has a right to post here, I do. Robert Jackson would agree. Any present Supreme Court justice would agree. The issue is freedom and responsibility. I have First Amendment religious liberty and associational rights. The Watchtower litigated heavily. I agree with its position. They were far from the only ones, however. The ACLU provided the intellectual thought and case law. I have a rich, vibrant life of free choice. Witnesses would never provide rights to those who oppose them. They promise to be far worse than the Spanish Inquisition or ISIS. It is the richness of law and western democracy that we extend legal protection to such groups as long as they do not incite imminent violence. Readers have a right to know the story from all viewpoints. Not only the Witness limited view of propaganda.

[@leonardmiller2336]

@@janicehussock7735 not that we as JW would deny others but what others denied us our right to worship how we want. Phil in this case is sticking up for us because he agrees people have a right to worship.

[@leonardmiller2336]

@@janicehussock7735 ma'am u speak rubbish woman i am a faithful witness and i know our history is and i realize u have your 1st amendment rights and your 2nd amendment rights but you'll never find a JW picking up a gun because we trust in the one who has the ultimate right to do as He sees fit in true justice and love which is something no man including and especially your judicial system will never have. Jehovah God thru his son Jesus Christ is our ultimate judge the ultimate judge of mankind but ones like you will do as the Psalmist wrote in the 2nd psalm maybe u should read it along with revelation, it is not our doing but your own that will bring u against Him. Amen. ps. you can change and accept of free will just as i did. And ma'am we are not a cult or a sect because we follow no man and we are not a breakaway from another faith. We are the one true faith of peace and love with God's justice not our own.

[@cinnamongirl52]

It takes a LOT OF COURAGE to NOT salute the flag in this country. The person is opening themselves up to insults and BULLYING by people who have the emotional intelligence of a child. Saluting the flag is not compulsory but a CHOICE in this country were many are so proud to live.... well, FYI, the USA is a country that encourages DIVERSITY. If you don't want diversity and won't respect the religious views of others, move to North Korea where they have NO choices and require EVERYONE to salute the flag of their country.

[@jamesarjuna927]

Conforming to other weak and stupid humans is physiological, emotional and spiritual suicide. It is called "group think".

[@cinnamongirl52]

James Arjuna Yes, I agree.... in psychology we call it "Bystander Effect"

[@kauaicouple]

Look at the comments by jws and those opposed...the negativity from opposer's is so apparent and only unhappy people want to drag others down.

[@shugahhigh3204]

Yup. That’s why even if I leave the organization, I will not engage with the ex jw community. Damaged, angry, unable/unwilling to heal.

[@hrh4961]

@@shugahhigh3204 Obviously, still in the thrall of the mind-control cult.

[@gothictheurgist9367]

Maybe it's because they are resentful for the abuse and manipulation they experienced on behalf of the organization? I think it's natural to be angry when an organization of people brainwashes you with fear to believe lies and controls so many aspects of your life and causes you to lose everything you love if you leave. You say unbelievers are"free to leave" but impose serious consequences on someone if they do try and leave. How is that being "free to leave"? That's clearly an attempt to force people to stay while being hypocritical about it and throwing fluff in there with the wording. Your "positivity" is nothing but hypocritical fluff. Fuck the organization.

[@hrh4961]

@@gothictheurgist9367 Bravo/a! Well said.

[@kauaicouple]

@@gothictheurgist9367 I wish you the best.

[@pamelahassan1415]

Since the Bible is prophetic, examine this: According to Psalm 83:18, in some Bibles, it says that God's name is Jehovah. In Isaiah 43:10, God declares individuals who follow Him ARE His Witnesses and, once again, He states his name as Jehovah. In Matthew 24:9 and Luke 21:17, there it states that individuals will be hated because of His name. So, it makes perfect sense that JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are disliked because they follow Him, Witness for Him....after all, He doesn't speak directly to us nowadays. The Bible does that! (It's God's Word). AND, they bear HIS NAME---JEHOVAH! Why would people call JWs a cult when cults are secretive? It makes no sense! JWs are doing what the Bible states that ALL of us should do....and that's, LOVE Him, LOVE each other, LOVE mankind, and because of this LOVE----Go and teach (Matthew 28:19-20) others about WHO He is, Why this world is in the turmoil that it's in, WHAT he promises about the future, and what to do in the meantime! Exactly, what's wrong with that? I don't think a salient feature of cults is LOVE....Do you? I commend Phil Donahue for discerning the truth about JWs, and ultimately changing his mind and actions towards them. He demonstrated that he's not a follower of wrong.

[@ld1623]

Very interesting....who knew he had such good things to say about JW's, of course when I was a ;youngster in school faced with the pressure to salute the flag my courage came from Jehovah, not from the fact that I would make my mom unhappy. Young Gobitas that Mr.D references was probably relying on prayer to Jehovah God to get him through and make him stronger for the next time. My two cents.

[@barbwire531]

I bet you either faded or are out now😂😂😂

[@deborahmattern5660]

No child should ever be put in to a position of any type of abuse...Religious or otherwise.

[@t.jonnson7306]

Deborah Mattern They aren't... STUPID !!!

[@t.jonnson7306]

And that would be your nosey business because why ???

[@garydunn3037]

I agree with you totally, these kind of people are vile, and will receive their "Divine Vengeance" for their Sins.

[@elram2649]

"abuse" is the keyword here...and that would first have to be defined. If I'm understanding what you mean here correctly, then literally everything is abuse. You need to be specifically clear in what you mean.

[@BobbyJacksonandDanna]

Gotta love my Family and PROUD to Be a Jehovah's Witnesses - Now what is your Religion doing, Is it trying to make Mathew 24:14 Come True, No other religion is in all Countries but Only Witnesses now since the web site is on the web. See the next time you might want to listen, BECAUSE JUST LIKE THE DAYS of NOAH - None of you are Listening - ARMAGEDDON is COMING like a THEIF in the Night

[@supehero22]

MuscleMaxZ1 Noah preached and built the ark for that amount of time too, and the flood surely came. Armageddon will come as well. Matthew 24:39..."and they took no note until the flood came and washed them all away, so the presence of the Son of man will be." This is speaking of the times that we live in now, Jesus is King of God's Kingdom, he is ruling and present and judging mankind. Be careful!

[@SpecialPioneerSmerf]

supehero22 And that is your idea of healthy fear? LOL fuck off with your pious threats. Go back and read what Jesus thought of false prophets and those who judge others.

[@Adub333]

***** Why the rudeness you can't hold on to only the pieces of the bible that you want. This system will come to a conclusion. GOD's zeal for righteouness and his anger will be let loosed on this world and a wall will not be left standing. His name will be known as his son prayed....Let your name be sanctified, Let your Kingdom come, Let your will be done on earth as is in heaven. So if you think the conclusion of this world will be nice then you don't read your bible. The majority of people on this earth will not be saved. "Broad and spacious is the road leading to destruction"..... Matt 6:9 “‘Our Father in the heavens, let your name+ be sanctified.*+ 10 Let your Kingdom+ come. Let your will+ take place, as in heaven, also on earth.+ Ezekiel 38 18 “‘On that day, the day when Gog invades the land of Israel,’ declares the Sovereign Lord Jehovah, ‘my great rage will flare up.+ 19 In my zeal, in the fire of my fury, I will speak; and in that day there will be a great earthquake in the land of Israel. 20 Because of me the fish of the sea, the birds of the sky, the wild beasts of the field, all the reptiles that creep on the ground, and all humans on the surface of the earth will tremble, and the mountains will be thrown down,+ and the cliffs will fall, and every wall will collapse to the ground.’ 21 “‘I will call for a sword against him on all my mountains,’ declares the Sovereign Lord Jehovah. ‘Every man’s sword will be against his own brother.+ 22 I will bring my judgment against him* with pestilence+ and bloodshed; and I will rain down a torrential downpour and hailstones+ and fire+ and sulfur+ on him and on his troops and on the many peoples with him.+ 23 And I will certainly magnify myself and sanctify myself and make myself known before the eyes of many nations; and they will have to know that I am Jehovah.’

[@SpecialPioneerSmerf]

ToastalStrudelYah Interesting how you follow false prophets, judge people, and threaten people who point out how you cherry pick scripture. Sorry if a swear word offends you... cults like yours who brainwash, blackmail and kill children offend me. Now go back to spitting in Jesus face, Jesus warned us about you.

[@Adub333]

***** How do I judge people by warning them of the upcoming destruction of this system of things. Wouldn't that be more like trying to save them from the Judgement of GOD against this world? You speak from a place I am not fond of. You don't recognize the words of GOD because you follow the tradition of this world. GOD can come tomorrow if he wanted or he could come in a 1000 years does that make my point any less important?

[@deleted_why]

Really MISS YOU, on air, Phil ! Too thoughtful for Prime Time, I think. (Isn't THAT a sad commentary?!) Really miss you on air. No one has taken that place. Wish there was a way for you to come back with an interview program of some sort.

[@renaislam4820]

Either you are a lier, or you had terrible parent. A good parent can never, never forces his or her child to worship any god. Now Almighty God do not forces any human being to worship Him. We worship Him because we love Him, and truly believe that His way of ruling is loving. Now, He is love and He will never torture any one.False Religion is the one that promotes torture in hell.He as the creator and supreme judge, Has the right to delete anyone that doesn't comply with His laws and regulations in a near future.

[@blacbraun]

Parents always make their kids worship their god. The parents are so brainwashed they think they have the one and only answer to the universe.

[@Peacewiser]

australians do not need to salute any flags either.

[@jhoannekelso805]

Proud of you for sticking up for the. Jehovah. Wittnesses

[@D800Lover]

Author Edward Gaffney,interview by US Catholic. When his daughter told him after her first day at school, she had learned a “new prayer at school,” he asked her to repeat it. “She put her hand on her heart,” said Gaffney,“ and proudly began, ‘I pledge allegiance to the flag...’” He continued: “All of a sudden, it kicked in. Jehovah’s Witnesses were right. There is an aspect of national spirituality that’s being shaped in our schools at a very early stage, an unquestioning transcendent loyalty.”

[@carolyn5637]

Thank you Jah. Your name is being sanctified!!!

[@Simon-pl2zi]

yes - thank you Jah for using the _Australian Royal Commission to investigate the massive Child Sexual Abuse problem within the Jehovah's Witness Organization_

[@GoodScienceForYou]

There is no "massive" pedophiles in Jehovah's Witnesses. And in most cases the charges are dropped for lack of evidence. There is no place in a Kingdom Hall nor in any Kingdom activity where children are allowed to be seperated from parents. It is EXTREMELY difficult for pedophiles to operate near Jehovah's Witnesses. The number one percentage of pedophiles, rapists, extortioinsts, and just plain adulterers is in the Baptist church. They even cleared out all the children from one church so that a pedophile preacher on parole could preach. Part of his parole requirements is that he cannot be withing 100 feet of children. But he people liked the way that idiot pervert sounded on the pulpit. This is how stupid people are today. Second is the Pentocostals and they have the all time record of the most cases in numbers (because the Baptists would beat them but there are less Babptists), of pedophile rings operationg in churches. And then comes the Catholic priests as number three. Next comes day care centers, where people are now forced to take their children if the wife wants to work. Then Boy Scouts, is notorious for camping sex with minors. Girl scouts. Then public schools and school teachers. You have to be out of your mind to not know this.

[@deeb2021]

@@debbie8023 Google YHWH . GODS name is Jehovah IN English and Yahweh in Hebrew. Maybe you have been reading to mant apostate sites.

[@margomckaine78]

@@debbie8023 The name Jeremiah was NEVER used in the Old Testament. The name Jonah was NEVER used in the Old Testament. The name Josiah was NEVER used in the Old Testament. The name Jonah was NEVER used in the Old Testament. The name Jehu was NEVER used in the Old Testament. The name Jehoiakim was NEVER used in the Old Testament. And the name Jesus was NEVER used in the New Testament.

[@shannonm75]

We are also persecuted in Jesus. That is what it was all about. We share in God's will and we are persecuted in his will. We suffer shame as Jesus who can sympathize.

[@stevehumphries4928]

@@debbie8023 “. . .true worshippers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for indeed, the Father is looking for ones like these to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit, and those worshipping him must worship with spirit and truth.. . .” JOH 4:23, 24 JW’s are not the only ones telling the truth about Christmas and it's pagan origins … not even the first … but we have made it known just how bad it is! Christmas is not Christian and the story being told over and over so much that people can’t even see the lie when they read the accounts at Matt and Luke chapter 2. Fact - Jesus birth was not Dec 25 and was not commanded to celebrate. Do you not know how God views a lie? According to John 4: 23, 24 What makes us true worshippers? If we are following a lie then we are not a true worshipper! And you misapply the Watchtower! However, we do love our and help our brothers … and after all it is a command “. . .Honor men of all sorts, have love for the whole association of brothers, be in fear of God, honor the king.” 1PE 2:17 But it also appears you left out some very important information! *** w17 May pp. 5-6 Helping “Foreign Residents” to “Serve Jehovah With Rejoicing” *** GIVING REFUGEES PRACTICAL HELP 11 At first, we may need to supplement our brothers’ food, clothing, or other basic needs. Even small gestures, like giving a brother a necktie, mean a lot. And when refugees show gratitude, never demanding anything, they help their hosts to experience the joy of giving. Granted, living indefinitely on others’ generosity may erode the self-respect of the refugees and may damage their relationships with other brothers. (2 Thess. 3:7-10) But they do need practical help. 12 Giving refugees practical help requires, not a lot of money, but mainly our time and concern. It may be as simple as showing them how to use public transportation, how to shop for healthful but inexpensive foods, or how to obtain tools or equipment-such as a sewing machine or a lawn mower-in order to earn some income. More important, you can help them to become fully involved in their new congregation. If possible, offer them rides to meetings. Also explain how they might approach people with the Kingdom message in your territory. Take the refugee brothers and sisters along with you in the ministry. PREACHING TO NON-WITNESS REFUGEES 17 Many of today’s refugees come from countries where our preaching work is restricted. Thanks to zealous Witnesses in the lands receiving refugees, thousands of refugees are hearing “the word of the Kingdom” for the first time. (Matt. 13:19, 23) Many who are “loaded down” are finding spiritual refreshment at our meetings and quickly acknowledge: “God is really among you.”-Matt. 11:28-30; 1 Cor. 14:25. 18 Those who preach to refugees *need to be “cautious” and even “shrewd.”* (Matt. 10:16; Prov. 22:3) Listen patiently to their concerns, but do not discuss politics. Follow directions from the branch office and from local authorities; *never put yourself or others at risk. Learn and respect refugees’ religious and cultural sensitivities.* For instance, people from some lands have strong feelings about proper dress for women. Therefore, when preaching to refugees, dress so as not to cause needless offense. 19 Like the neighborly Samaritan in Jesus’ illustration, we want to help suffering people, including those who are not Witnesses. (Luke 10:33-37) The best way to do so is by sharing the good news with them. “It is important to make clear right away that we are Jehovah’s Witnesses and that our primary mission is to help them spiritually, not materially,” notes an elder who has helped many refugees. “Otherwise, some may associate with us only for personal advantage.” Nowhere in the article does it say “that non-Jehovah’s Witnesses be given no material support” those are you words. I have no idea why you not be truthful ... but perhaps “. . .Do not be surprised, brothers, that the world hates you. 14 We know that we have passed over from death to life, because we love the brothers. . .” - 1JO 3:13, 14

[@deeb2021]

@@debbie8023 you are the one doing the judging of a people that do Not judge or condemn others. JW only speak what Gods word says. God is the one that says who will be thrown into the second death where satan and the demons are going. Revelation 21: 8 says, But as for the cowards and those without faith, and those who are disgusting in their filth, and murderers, and fornicators, and those practicing spiritism, and idolaters, and all the liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulpher. THIS MEANS THE SECOND DEATH. GOD is the judge And He loves humans and wants His message to be delivered by His people before His time for executing those ignoring His law and principles. He wants them to repent so they can live . And JW'S love others enough to risk their lives to take Jehovah's and Jesus warning message to others. They are commanded to do so. If they didnt warn others they would be blood guilty. Jehovah is still inviting people to repent , draw close to Him, follow His son and keep living. Most of JW have come out of Different religions after a diligent study of the scriptures and many have comitted gross sins before changing their lives in harmony with Gods will and purpose. So JW do NOT think they are above anyone else . They are far from arrogant .

[@deeb2021]

@Shovern And who are you and what religion are you? And what God do you worship if any. ? Please tell us. And can you tell others what God says to do to get on the road to life? Can you tell others what God's Kingdom is, and what it will do for humans who obey God ? Can you tell us who has the mark of the wild beast and how one gets the INVISIBLE mark? All the accusers of Jehovah Witnesses cannot tell you these things because they do not have Gods SPIRIT. Jesus Said the blind leading the blind, both will fall into the pit.

[@deeb2021]

@Shovern I've done plenty of research and know for sure that JW'S teach bible truth and expose religious lies that put people on the broad road leading to destruction.

[@deeb2021]

@@debbie8023 Havent you read that Gods word is what judges people,? JW do not judge they leave that to God. They just deliver Gods message because they are told to do so by God in His word. They certainly are very much aware that we are all imperfect born in error aka sin. They love people and want as many as possible to be on the road that leads to life.

[@georgestetson1132]

I get a kick out of the fact that my fellow ex-JW friends can't get over the organiztion and at least acknowledge that if nothing else good came out of the Watchtower organization, the right to freedom of worship was pushed to it's limits and we enjoy the benefits today. I know many other Christians that are not comfortable with the Salute, but wouldn't have had the where-with-all to stand up like that. You gotta give credit where credit is due.

[@nexus1g]

You should. It's their right to do as they please. Move on with your life. Don't pretend like you're the good guy because you're "for the kids!"

[@bryangry]

Watch for it :) Mat 4:6 and said to him, “If you are the Son of God, throw yourself down, for it is written, “‘He will command his angels concerning you,’ and “‘On their hands they will bear you up, lest you strike your foot against a stone.’” Verse 7 Jesus said to him, “Again it is written, ‘You shall not put the Lord your God to the test.’” What scripture is Jesus quoting? Duet 6:16 “You shall not put the LORD your God to the test, as you tested him at Massah. What happened at Massah? Numbers 21:5 And the people spoke against God and against Moses, “Why have you brought us up out of Egypt to die in the wilderness? For there is no food and no water, and we loathe this worthless food.” 6Then the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people, so that many people of Israel died. Psalm 106:14 In the desert they gave in to their craving; in the wilderness they put God to the test. 1 Cor 10:9 We must not put Christ to the test, as some of them did and were destroyed by serpents, BAZINGA :)

[@RootTilden]

Larry Charms Jehovah's Witnesses insult the world. They do not know that most Americans and even Hindus, Moslems, and Buddhists know "Matthew." When I was at Columbia University, foreign students of other religions knew Matthew better than any Witness. I was shocked. They could finish obscure New Testament quotes. Don''t be fooled by selective and misleading WT quotes. It is a fraud. I term it unconscionable hubris or how to lie to the public.

[@rawbrutaltruth]

Hebrews 9:24 "for Christ entered not into a holy place made with hands, like in pattern to the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear before the face of God for us:" American Standard version 1901-- this Scripture clearly shows that even after Jesus was resurrected and went to heaven. He is not God Almighty, but that he went to heaven to a be appear before God who is God Almighty Jehovah. Paul being a Israelite would've seen things in concrete terms, and from this description that he gives us about what Jesus did it is pretty clear that Jesus is not God Almighty

[@bryangry]

Nice scripture RBT.....So when he is standing before Gods face for us, (thats why he is called our mediator).....who is going to be doing that for you since the JW's teach he is only the mediator for the 144,000 :)

[@Murphy9701]

It is really sad. People who have absolutely NO clue what the Bible teaches, pick verses that they have absolutely no idea what it is talking about and use it as "proof" to deny what other scripture obviously teaches. I would be very careful denying who God really is. Sad

[@bryangry]

Gee raw, I dont know about that, based on what the watchtower teaches I could be. The wtbs teaches the 144,000 are the ones to rule as kings....Lets look at what we christians have in common with that doctrine The 144,000 according to the wtbs are the only ones born again I am born again The 144,000 are part of the new covenant I am part of the new covenant The 144,000 have Christ as their mediator I have Christ as my mediator The 144,000 partake of the emblems I partake of the emblems Oh no raw I am going to be a king over you based on your doctrine. So tell me Raw who is going to mediate for you??? Remember raw ... “A person who represents himself has a fool for a client." :)

[@bryangry]

Who is your mediator raw if it is not Jesus as watchtower teaches.....who is going to plead your case?

[@rawbrutaltruth]

that been answered already by more than me ,....look up the post

[@bobbystclaire]

I salute flag,because I want to,no one should be FORCED to violate their consciouss :)

[@MrJmurp]

Phil Should of Stayed A Catholic & Kept His Lovely Girlfriend!

[@trgvtrgv9384]

Stop! saluting a flag of any kind. There's no reason to. The flag has no feelings or power within it. Why does anyone salute a flag? I can respect the government without bowing, I can love the part of the earth I live on without taking a life nor giving mine, and I can obey laws until they conflict with our Most High. I don't need to pledge my alliegense to fabrics or symbols of government or religion. Symbolic observation of anything even of our Creator is wrong to Him, so nobody should be doing this and millions are not and most are not JWs but people that have learned they should not so no longer do. I am not a jw but I am thankful for the foundation I got from going to kingdom Hall most my life. It helped me to continue to avoid what He does not want people to do. I actually don't like celebration of Holliday's to my core, in a good way. I love it. I prefer being given love and presents all year round from family. And I feel free to get others things as they need it or as l feel to show my appreciation by gifting, no pressure ever. I save so much more dollars than most too.

[@janicescott7338]

I am one of Jehovah’s Witnesses. We obey the law’s of the land, unless the law goes above Jehovah Gods superlative law’s. I appreciate Mr. Donahue. We respect the flag as a symbol but it is an inanimate object and cannot hear or see the pledge’s to it. We give exclusive devotion to God who hear’s and can see us.

[@RiverDanube]

Who told you that saluting the flag was going above God's laws? What makes you thing that when you salute a flag that there is some sort of pledge of devotion to the flag? It's ridiculous. When we went to school saluting the flag meant nothing more than showing acknowledgement of what your country is doing for you.

[@RiverDanube]

Art Deco I was one of those JW children who was told not to salute the flag. I was ridiculed by other children and scolded by the headmaster a number of times. I felt ostracised at school and not like other normal kids. And there was no biblical reason for it. I would never want my children to feel that way , it's cruel and I see no reason to be quiet about it.

[@kuzinvknee3318]

@@RiverDanube : The very saying, "I pledge allegiance", does tell us. We can pledge allegiance only to our Creator and His Son.

[@kuzinvknee3318]

@@RiverDanube : Did you get your 30 pieces of silver?

[@RiverDanube]

@@kuzinvknee3318 You are confusing worship to God with allegience or obedience to higher authorities.

[@nexus1g]

I've never heard of a child having been disfellowshipped from the Jehovah's Witnesses since disfellowshipping does require baptism and children are not baptized. When it comes to killing children, I haven't a clue what you're talking about. I certainly didn't see any child sacrifice.

[@nexus1g]

I've read the publications current at the time I had attended the congregation and I didn't see anything even closely related to what you're claiming. So unless there has been huge, dramatic changes since I attended, I highly question your claim that they are distributing such publications.

[@RavenWolfDrum69]

THANK YOU PHIL. JEHOVAH BLESS YOU

[@darling_danke_schoen]

What's even more interesting about what he's saying is that not only were these kids obedient to their parents, but they were really being obedient to their God, which Witness children are taught the importance of early on. Saluting the flag and pledging allegiance, like he said, is tantamount to idolatry! He states it well, it takes a little while to come out that way... hah... but you can tell his admiration for our deeply held convictions! Thanks, Phil, for speaking in and on our behalf

[@cf8959]

The U.S. Constitution (which guarantees our freedom to practice whatever religion we choose) and the Bill of Rights did not stop the abuse of Jehovah’s Witnesses or their children. Nothing was done when I, as a 5 yr old kindergartener, was spanked over the knee of my teacher in front of the entire class for not celebrating Christmas. Nothing was done when I was in 6th grade and my teacher berated and screamed at me in front of the entire class for not saluting the flag and told the entire class that I was a Communist because I was a Jehovah’s Witness and “those people” don’t fight for their country. Nothing was done when I was in elementary school and was beaten to a pulp in the girls gym locker room by a girl, and many other students, who took turns doing the same thing. I’m certain the teacher could hear the yelling, screaming, whooping and hollering from the crowd, but did nothing. Nothing was was done on my first day of high school when this SAME GIRL took scissors out of the teacher’s desk and proceeded to cut off my long hair in front of the entire class, as the teacher turned her back and started writing something on the blackboard despite my cries for help. Nothing was done when my high school history teacher gave the class the assignment of polling people in their neighborhoods during an election year. When I respectfully asked my teacher to assign me another project, because Jehovah’s Witnesses don’t vote and we maintain neutrality, I was screamed at and told that if I refused to do the assignment I would fail the entire semester. He refused to give me another assignment, despite my repeated requests. Upon asking him what if others in my class refused to do the assignment, would they also receive a failing grade for the semester? His reply was “Yes, if they’re Jehovah’s Witnesses.” At the end of the semester, my grades were : B, B and F, with an average grade of F for the semester. My mother called the teacher to ask how he determined my semester grade was an F, when 2 B’s and an F should have been a passing grade for the semester? He told her the same thing again that he told me, since I refused to do the assignment, I failed the semester. Only after going to the principal and showing my report card to him, did my history teacher modify my semester grade to a D minus, which was passing, but certainly not the average grade for the semester. As I grew up enduring all this and more, I learned that a Constitutional Law was only a piece of paper that these people rationalized didn’t apply to me. And that breaking that same law didn’t apply to them. Now, I’m a 64 year old servant of Jehovah. As His slave, I get far better treatment than a slave of this system.

[@timshel011]

Phil Donahue, one of the best Irish Catholics out there...

[@annavogt826]

Thanks Phil for your wisdom and insight. Few see it as you do.

[@janicehussock7735]

He is NOT agreeing with Witness beliefs. Phil Donahue is speaking about the role of the US Supreme Court as part of a forum organized by the Justice Robert Jackson Foundation. Robert Jackson was a Supreme Court justice and , if my memory serves me right, he was one of the judges of the Nuremberg Tribunal Jehovah had nothing to do with legal reasoning used by the justices. Nothing. Absolutely nothing. WT lit will not get you to college, let alone law school. Anna, you are a poor apologist for the Witnesses.

[@janicehussock7735]

"Few see it as you do." Aside from demagogic people on the right, such as Trump, every American believes in religious freedom. I certainly do and i do not support the Witnesses as a choice. Freedom is important. What is sad is that Witnesses would deny other people their freedom. Witnesses would be as the Taliban or ISIS if they had political control. They only care about their rights, not the rights of a community or country. I became a lawyer because of these cases. My mom and uncle were expelled from school. They were only children doing their parents' bidding. Mostly their mother's bidding. They had no choice but to not salute the flag. In five decades of practice, I have heard no one assert that expelling children or punishing parents for not saluting the flag was a good thing. You have very biased eyes. Yet the WT allows national flags inside Kingdom Halls in Peru, and Chile. Witnesses in Mexico pay bribes and pay to support the political apparatus. While the WT made payments and allowed flags inside their very place of worship, Witnesses inMalawi were mowed down. The difference is simple. When WT corporate assets are threatened, the WT sees new light. When individual Witnesses suffer, all is hunky dory.

[@annavogt826]

Few saw it as Jesus did as well. You say you're a lawyer? I doubt it. My step daughter is a lawyer and she said when she attended Law School it was then that my beliefs became more clear to her. She said that JW's have paved the way for ALL RELIGIOUS organizations to share their faith if they see fit to. Most don't of course. However, the cases we've won have made religious freedoms more sure for ALL people. We have no desire or need to deny people their freedoms. We could make issue of religious holidays being celebrated in public schools. We dont. We let our children stay home when these occasions take place RATHER than step on the rights of those who WANT to celebrate, even though, as a lawyer, you should know it's illegal to celebrate religious holidays in a public school setting. You would also know (if you were a lawyer) that JW's are NOT political. We do not vote. We do not run for public office, so our rule of the world will never happen. We KNOW human rule doesn't work and that only God's Kingdom will solve man's problems. Sad that you can't give your mother and uncle the credit they deserve for making such a courageous stand at such a critical and devastating time in our world's past. Last but not least, comparing us to the Taliban or Isis is about as ridiculous as your comment gets. We are peaceful, law abiding people and are known the world over as such. We refuse to go to war even though in times past it has cost our brothers and sisters their lives. JW's were many of the first in the concentration camps in Germany because of our refusal to fight in Hitlers war. Many were shot by firing squad and some beheaded - even young men only 19 years old! Check it out at the Holocaust Museum in Washington DC. We also weren't firing AT those Americans, French,, Italians and others in the war, while Catholic was killing Catholic and Protestant killing Protestant.

[@annavogt826]

I have been to college and there are many in my congregation who currently attend college so your information unfortunatley in skewed and in error. We have a Dr. , Architect, many nurses and people of other skilled trades in our congregation. When you don't have a good point to make you just insult the intelligence of people. Jesus, according to the Bible, as well as his apostles were "unlettered and ordinary" yet that did NOT prevent them from having an accurate knowledge of God's word and purpose. Your prejudice is showing.

[@annavogt826]

Here is a short video of a Catholic priest who was a college professor and how his study and research of Jehovah's Witnesses along with many OTHER religions, led to him the choice to BE a witness. www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/activities/living-bible-principles/leaving-church-finding-god/#?insight[search_id]=24bdcc3e-01f1-4395-b585-7a6897c83ea3&insight[search_result_index]=30

[@paulconcadora9395]

Is there any proof of anything that is talked about in this video,

[@DLeske]

Phil ...wow. I was a JW for 42 years....and just walked away one day seven years ago. I was not disfellowshiped or kicked out, just got tired of all the meetings and knocking on doors of people who do not care. There are some JWs who are not good, in time they will be found out. Most really believe in the Truth they learn and you will not have to fear that they will kill you or your loved ones. You do know I am sure that Jesus and his apostles with disciples went from door to door and house to house, city to city to spread the word and make converts in that way... but many of us are fishermen, bakers, shoemakes and people who are trying to raise a family and I would rather leave the teaching and disciple making to those who wish to do it. I really do not believe Jehovah will kill innocent babies who are born into a non believing family. In seven years I have met many wonderful people out here in the world. I have opened my eyes, but I have not joined any other religion. I say; walk softly and carry a big stick brother. We should have never went to Vietnam, what did we gain or prove? We lost thousands of good boys. I was in old Saigon last September, now known as Ho Chi Minh City ...the people are beautiful kind and simply wonderful, the food is good and streets were clean. I actually cried for their lost boys.

[@teamexpress851]

"I really do not believe Jehovah will kill innocent babies who are born into a non believing family." 🤷‍♂️ Neither did Pharaoh of Egypt and the vast majority of Egyptians who had their first born babies killed by Jehovah due to their lack of exercising faith in the saving power of the blood of the lamb... But it happened nonetheless. Then there's also the testimony of Almighty Jehovah God’s word as recorded in both Ezekiel and Revelation where it is written: "Then he thundered, “Call those to whom I have given the city! Tell them to bring their weapons with them!” 2 Six men appeared at his call, coming from the upper north gate, each one with his sword. One of them wore linen clothing and carried a writer’s case strapped to his side. They all went into the Temple and stood beside the bronze altar. 3 And the glory of the God of Israel rose from between the Guardian Angels where it had rested and stood above the entrance to the Temple. And the Lord called to the man with the writer’s case 4 and said to him, “Walk through the streets of Jerusalem and put a mark on the foreheads of the men who weep and sigh because of all the sins they see around them.” 5 Then I heard the Lord tell the other men: “Follow him through the city and kill everyone whose forehead isn’t marked. Spare not nor pity them- 6 kill them all-old and young, girls, women, AND LITTLE CHILDREN; but don’t touch anyone with the mark. And begin right here at the Temple.” And so they began by killing the seventy elders. 7 And he said, “Defile the Temple! Fill its courts with the bodies of those you kill! Go!” And they went out through the city and did as they were told." ~ EZEKIEL 9:1-7 (Living Bible Version) "Then I saw heaven opened and a white horse standing there; and the one sitting on the horse was named Faithful and True-the one who justly punishes and makes war. 12 His eyes were like flames, and on his head were many crowns. A name was written on his forehead, and only he knew its meaning. 13 He was clothed with garments dipped in blood, and his title was “The Word of God.”[Jesus Christ‼️] 14 The armies of heaven, dressed in finest linen, white and clean, followed him [Jesus Christ‼️] on white horses. 15 In his mouth he [Jesus Christ‼️] held a sharp sword to strike down the nations; he ruled them with an iron grip; and he trod the winepress of the fierceness of THE WRATH of Almighty God. 16 On his robe and thigh was written this title: “King of Kings and Lord of Lords.” 17 Then I saw an angel standing in the sunshine, shouting loudly to the birds, “Come! Gather together for the supper of the Great God! 18 Come and eat the flesh of kings, and captains, and great generals; of horses and riders; AND OF ALL HUMANITY, both great AND SMALL, slave and free.” " ~ REVELATION 19:11-18 (Living Bible Version) Once you come to understand that ALL humanity (including infants) are IMPERFECT/ STAINED IN SIN FROM CONCEPTION, under condemnation of death by God's wrath and can ONLY be saved by exercising faith in the saving power of the shed blood of THE LAMB OF GOD (Jesus Christ), you'll remain in ignorance of this most sacred truth. EVERYONE deserves eternal death and it is ONLY due to Jehovah God's IMMENSE love and UNDESERVED kindness/grace/mercy in sending His most beloved only begotten Son to die as a sacrifice that those of humanity who choose to exercise faith in that sacrifice have HOPE IN SALVATION. The apostle Paul shows at 1 Corinthians 7:14 that out of consideration for parents who faithfully serve God, Jehovah views their young children as holy. This motivates God-fearing parents to be careful about their own standing with God, out of loving concern for their offspring. To young ones who are old enough to exercise faith and demonstrate obedience to God’s commands, Jehovah extends the privilege of having an approved standing as His servants through Christ. 👉 This is but only yet another reason that Jehovah has His witnesses preaching far and wide the message of the good news of His now established heavenly Kingdom Government as a witness to all the nations BEFORE the long awaited END of this entire global ungodly system of things is VERY SOON brought to fulfillment (Matthew 24:14). 🙏 May Jehovah through Christ Jesus grant your eyes and heart to be opened while there is still time... Once The Great Tribulation BEGINS, the door will be shut and mankind will face the consequences of their choice at that time. wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1102003057#h=1:0-9:373

[@foggylegg6362]

Marking the foreheads of those who wept and sighed because of the hatred and violence around them shows that they had love in their hearts for others and the God of love. That's why they were marked and spared. When Jesus was anointed, he taught us that Jehovah had not changed in that those who show love, hate what is bad and take no part in it and love their Creator who gives all good things will have the real life. The life for which humans were first made.

[@망히-z9z]

A good thinker.I agree with him.

[@marlenewilliams5775]

False teaching of J W will not go unpunished by almighty God

[@Michael-dq8xc]

@@marlenewilliams5775 We will see that in future which religion has false teachings :)

[@Michael-dq8xc]

@Shovern It's not funny at all. You don't even know nothing about Jw's, not about the bible

[@MaleahsDiary]

Dear Brothers and Sisters, if you ever wonder why your congregation is not growing, there's this thing called Google that most people have access to. You should try using it. -Inactive/Baptized Jehovah's Witness.

[@wylolister3218]

@@markymark6928 Where? Link?

[@wylolister3218]

@@markymark6928 ?

[@no1sebfan]

My respect for the little children that stood up so strongly for their belief. That man, nor his govn'ts can come between them and their Almighty God Jehovah.

[@MonetJackson_here]

Great video. It shows unyielding faith, courage, and a true love for Jehovah. Qualities exemplified by Paul, Moses, Abraham, Issac, Jacob, Ruth, Rachel, and especially Jesus

[@janicehussock7735]

+Latrice Severan None of whom were Jehovah's Witnesses. Paul would be very angry concerning the doctrines the Witnesses preach. Jesus would be furious. Jesus was no Jehovah's Witness. They did not form until the 1880s and pyramid, occult was a key feature. It is a "cult." These Bible personages were hardly Witnesses. It takes a lot of arrogance to claim these Bible people as your own when they lived many thousands of years before the Witnesses wee formed. My mom was expelled from school for flag salute. It was not courage. She was very sad because she loved school and dreamed of being a teacher. The motivation was that my JW grandmother would have punished her so severely. They were children following the orders of their parents. I also had to fight for the simple right to finish high school. That was courage. Phil Donahue is NOT endorsing the Witnesses. He is endorsing the Constitution of the United States, a country the Witnesses believe is evil. They would take all our western civil rights and civil liberties. Our very notion of fairness and justice in every civilization would cease. If they had control of a territory, they would be no different than ISIS or the Taliban. Roman Catholics, Episcopalians, and Lutherans, to name a few, have long passed stronger tests of courage. I agree with Donohue that our civil rights are crucial. It would be nice if the Witnesses faded away. They are losing ground wherever their is Internet access. Witnesses have lower educational attainment than Muslims.

[@richardinman9146]

+Janice Hussock Jesus Christ was a faithful Witnesses it says that revelation

[@janicehussock7735]

Show me the specific chapter and verse in a true Bible. It is not even int the New World Translation. Yet more proof that Witnesses fail to know their Bible. Today, they don't even know the Watchtower. Standards were never great and they have declined. No Bible verse states that Jesus of Nazareth or the Risen Christ is a Witness. Prove your assertion.

[@janicehussock7735]

Phil Donohue gave this interview to discuss Supreme Court First Amendment jurisprudence. He never became a Witness. If he were so impressed, he might have attended a few meetings.

[@janicehussock7735]

@gemma harden Excuse me, I am a New York attorney whose passion is connotational rights. Opposing a cult and offering commentary is not hate speech. Russia banned them for extremism and hatred. Yet here they are trying to silence an American attorney.

[@MrJmurp]

What was Her Name Phil?

[@shannonm75]

How can people judge JW when they know nothing about them? You have to get to know the people. Then come those that don't like the way the elders arrange something or GB at the headquarters say something people don't agree with, pout and leave the congregation. That's so immature.

[@randalla.941]

Let me tell you something right now little lady. My mother got involved with these freaks when I was probably 6 years old and I remember in 1974 because she was so scared of the autumn of 1975 when they implied heavily in their literature that Armageddon was coming. I remember vividly my mother and Elder and his wife telling me how I had to get baptized and would get baptized or my mother would died in Armageddon because of me. At 14 years old sitting on my bed I had a rifle in my mouth ready to blow my brains out because I didn't want to be responsible for my mother's death . Thankfully I couldn't find it in me to pull that trigger. So little girl there are a lot of us out here who know the truth about this organization and the people in it and that's all I've got to say.

[@GoodScienceForYou]

Mathew 6 "Our Father in Heaven" : Jesus was standing on the earth telling his disciples who to pray to and where this Father is. "Let your name be sanctified": So, Jesus said that we are to sanctify God's Holy Name. "Let your will be done on earth and in heaven"; Jesus did not say that this was "Jesus will" but the will of OUR Father. And Jesus called his disciples his brothers, because they were to be sons of God also. Mark 3:35 35 Whoever does the will of God, this one is my brother and sister and mother.” God's name appears in the oldest scriptures we can find about 7000 times. I think that means He wants us to call him by his name, Jehovah, or Yehovah as it was pronounced in Old English and transliterated from the Hebrew by early Bible Scholars.. Psalm 83:18King James Version (KJV) 18 That men may know that thou, whose name alone is Jehovah, art the most high over all the earth.

[@connieshuga6877]

it is not "let your name" be sanctified

[@GoodScienceForYou]

Connie Shuga According to Koine Greek and Hebrew scholars from the oldest hand written copies thousands of years old, it is. "let your name be sanctified". "hallowed" in old English means the same thing. Most people don't understand old English. I have been reading it for 55 years.

[@connieshuga6877]

I will be asking a true Bible Scholar about this.

[@GoodScienceForYou]

Connie Shuga Exodus 3:15 15 Then God said once more to Moses: “This is what you are to say to the Israelites, ‘Jehovah the God of your forefathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you.’ This is my name forever, and this is how I am to be remembered from generation to generation. Psalms 148: 11 You kings of the earth and all you nations, You princes and all you judges of the earth,+ 12 You young men and young women,* Old men and young together.* 13 Let them praise the name of Jehovah, For his name alone is unreachably high.+ His majesty is above earth and heaven.+ 14 He will exalt the strength* of his people, For the praise of all his loyal ones, Of the sons of Israel, the people close to him. Praise Jah!*

[@GoodScienceForYou]

***** I think you will not make it into God's Kingdom, because you do not have a loving heart. Yes, Jehovah gave humans rules for health. Humans want to play "god' so that brought on all of human disease, suffering and death. We can see that human emotions desires and compulsions are a disease. ALL children are now born with serious genetic diseases, including you, from this behavior. You really think it is normal to (if you make it 70% don't make it past 67years.) to have old age (which is suffering), disease which is suffering, suffering and death? It is not a joy to be a crippled old person. It is not a joy to be a diseased person limited. It is not a joy to see your loved ones suffer and die. It is not a joy to see your child die. It is not a joy to die. Without life you have nothing! This is not how God had planed it. Jehovah in his generous loving nature, gave humans free will and we screwed up, not only ourselves but the planet. We are now so attracted to the things that cause diseases, suffering, old age and death that we think it is normal. It is not normal to die. It is not in you heart to want to die. There is no hope for humanity from humans. It will never happen. Every generation thinks they can fix this, and they just make it worse because they are stupid. Humans are proven beyond all doubts to be unable to stop themselves from destruction. Here is what God's plan is from the Bible. First, he is letting this rotting system run down and self destruct. At the same time sending out people (Jehovah's people) to find those willing to give up rotting actions (sins) and have decent hearts and want to live. Jehovah is seeking out those on the planet who love life and want to live. Those who want to live so much that they would surrender to God's will and learn God's ways to love and life. Jehovah's Will is that we stop destroying ourselves, and stop creating suffering in our amazingly retarded condition. Then he is going to destroy all evil on the earth forever. Everyone who is not found in the Book of Life, will be destroyed because they have no desire to live and do not have good hearts. In the new Kingdom about to come on earth, no one who promotes diseases, suffering, death, or defies Jehovah's Laws will be allowed to live. Only good people will be allowed to live. Jehovah promises to return our genome to health and to full life for as long as we want to live, forever if you want. The earth will be restored to a paradise as it was in the beginning, before humans decided to play God. There will be no wars, no religions, no hate, no disease, no suffering and death will be removed. There will be no old age. There will be no greed. There will be no hate. It is God's plan. It is the Best plan there is, and it is the only way to life. If you want to live you would get close to your Creator, Jehovah, from his Words in the Bible. The Bible is 100% accurate on all levels of human life and death and it details God's plans for the very near future. If you hate life, so much, that you are willing to give up life for some human emotional mental garbage beliefs or "plastic Jesus", then there is no hope for you. Part of stupid human beliefs is this disgusting rotting system of hate, disease, war, false religions and death is all there is. www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/when-you-die/

[@nexus1g]

The courts have ruled that a person can choose for themselves their medical treatment. You take from that what you want.

[@concreterose13]

nice interview

[@eleanorsmith9706]

Thanks Phil for sharing some insight into our religion and brotherhood. We are an international organization. The Bible when talking about the followers of Jesus Christ, referred to them as the Way before the name Christian came to be. Being a JW is a way of life, the best life. Our life is based on only Gods Word the Bible. We are on a cramped road leading to everlasting life Many pray the “Our Father”prayer , but don’t really understand it. Jesus instructed his followers to say within this pray “Let Your Kingdom Come On Earth as it is in Heaven “ This is our main objective, that we be subjects of Jehovah’s Kingdom, Jehovah’s name will be cleared of all reproach. His Kingdom will not be ruled by imperfect men but by Jesus Christ. All who claim to be Christian should be anxious for Christ rule as we are. There are many good people in this world, but Jehovah wants your worship. As far as Jehovah is concerned, if you’re not worshiping him, you are worshiping Satan the Devil, his adversary. Every knee will bend. Go to JW. Org and get the truth straight from the Book that Jehovah transcribed, The Holy Bible. Our life in this system is not the real life and all that glitters is not gold. Praise Jah.

[@chrisdurant4627]

Elesner smith, studie,, Romans. Ch, 9,v12-18, JEHOVAH himself blinds people, to believe.he.font exist, now.thst.is soooo,, powerfull, wow,,, is it.

[@73oldsmobile88]

But it’s not a real religion, jws don’t even worship Jesus or even pray in his name , read letter to Galatians it’s like a letter to all these false religions 😊

[@vusimngomezulu2500]

If you love Jehovah's witnesses u love Jehovah God and Jesus christ John 17:21.

[@bestremodelservices]

the boys are educated in the light of the Bible sacred scriptures obey Jehovah God and OUR LORD JESUS ​​CHRIST John 6:38 for I have come down from heaven to do, not my own will, but the will of him who sent me.

[@kharilane1340]

The control this cult has over the minds of its victims would be awe inspiring to behold if it wasn't so nausea inducing.

[@kharilane1340]

@Angela Sanders I'm not ignorant. I spent 18 years in that cult. Its taken almost as long to remove the stain its left on my life and I don't think it will ever be entirely purged. I just hope others wake up Like I did before they waste their whole lives in a cult who's leaders actively mislead their "flock" and control them for their own gain!!!

[@SpecialPioneerSmerf]

Then please by all means enlighten us what happens to a baptized or un-baptized child who disobey the edicts of the WatchTower cult leaders and receive a full blood transfusion? (I have the magazines here to back my answer up)

[@thunderous-one]

Educate me oh wise person on blood transfusions and I will gladly give you the facts. Suffice, I bet you’re utterly clueless in blood transfusions but use this “old chestnut” as an emotive argument for your own self aggrandisement. In the meantime, how have your easters, christmases and birthdays been?🤔

[@growthandunderstanding]

Donahue is such a hero and speaker of truth!

[@MaRu-ui3ug]

Thank you for the video. I thank Yah for His organization. I thank Yah for the endurance of the brothers and sisters all over the world that encourage me to endure. Let your name be sanctified, Jehovah. Let your kingdom come. Let you will takes place on earth as it is in heaven.

[@zangiefromanov2563]

But go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy and not sacrifice.’

[@junedinse4219]

They are not only obediant to their parents they are dedicated and obediant to Jehovah.

[@MorningDove]

It's incredible the number of terrible stories, untruths that are told about Jehovah's Witnesses. The truth is they are the most hard~working, honest, respectful and kind people I have ever known. They are faithful in marriage and kind to their children. This is only possible because they put Jehovah first and follow His laws. People may say what they want about them but why not ask a Jehovah's Witness for yourself and find out the real truth instead of believing the many falsehoods?

[@MrJmurp]

Jehovah's Wittness Parents Would "Let" Their Children "Die" Rather; Than Save Their Lives with Life Giving Blood!

[@markspann]

Jehovah's people do not give blood, take blood, nor will they spill blood. This is all scripturally valid. Pretty clear they do not fear death, only God.

[@MrJmurp]

@@markspann They Spilled My Innocent Blood in 1987 for Protecting My Babies from Your Un-Baptisted & Baptisted Perverts, Who The Elders Sided With & The Blood of 50,000 to 70,000 Honest "Erring" Ones Every Year, Mathew 18: 10-14 & Verses 21-22 (Which The Jehovah's Wittinesses Boost About)! They Break Up Family's by Getting Parents To Kick Their Teenage Children Out of The Family Home! (Who Are Covered By Their Parents Moral Lives) by God Almighty Himself in The Bible. "For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy." 1 Corinthians 7: 14. They Have Broken Up Thousands Marriage's by Their "Pornia" Teachings by "Mind Screwing" Vulnerable Women Since 1970's! "So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.” Mathew 19: 6. I Was Anointed in 1997 by God Almighty Himself & I Got A Very Rude & Sickening Awakening As To How (The Great Crowd) Treat "True" Anointed Ones & We As A Family Fled Your Religion of "Hypocrites" Who Are Murderously Jealous of "True" Anointed Ones Because (The Great Crowd) Are "Unfit" To Be Anointed & Thats Why They Are "Not" Anointed by God Almighty "12 Therefore this is what The Holy One of Israel says: “Because you have rejected this message, relied on oppression and depended on deceit, 13 this sin will become for you like a high wall, cracked and bulging, that collapses suddenly, in an instant. 14 It will break in pieces like pottery, shattered so mercilessly that among its pieces not a fragment will be found for taking coals from a hearth or scooping water out of a cistern.” Isaiah 30: 12-14. "10 The disciples asked him, “Why then do the teachers of the law say that Elijah must come first?” 11 Jesus replied, “To be sure, Elijah comes and Will Restore All Things. 12 But I tell you, Elijah has already come, and they did not recognise him, but have done to him everything they wished. In the same way The Son of Man is going to suffer at their hands.” 13 Then the disciples understood that he was talking to them about John The Baptist." Mathew 17: 10-13. You Can Fool Humans Jehovah's Witnesses! But You Cannot Fool God Almighty Himself! The People "Out In The World" Are Better & More Honest People Than You "Lying" Hypocritical Jehovah's Witnesses! Who "Sacrifice" & "Throw" your Children "Out In Front Of You" To Cover Up What You "Parents" Are "ALL" Doing in Secret! Maybe Armageddon Is Meant For You, You Keep Preaching It! And I Pray That God Almighty In His Mercy Will Give The World Another Chance, When He Glorifies His Anointed One! And Billions of Michael's Children Will Live Forever, Eternal in Our Universe & Heaven Above (We Will Live In Both). "Comfort for the Contrite 14 And it will be said: “Build up, build up, prepare the road! Remove the obstacles out of the way of My People.” 15 For this is what The High and Exalted One Says- He Who Lives Forever, Whose NAME Is Holy: “I Live In a High and Holy Place, but also with the one who is Contrite and Lowly in Spirit, to revive the spirit of the lowly and to revive the heart of the contrite. 16 I will not accuse them forever, nor will I always be angry, for then they would faint away because of Me- the very people I have created. 17 I was enraged by their sinful greed; I punished them, and hid My face in anger, yet they kept on in their wilful ways. 18 I have seen their ways, but I Will Heal them; I will guide them and restore comfort to Israel’s mourners, 19 creating praise on their lips. Peace, peace, to those far and near,” says The LORD. “And I Will Heal them.” 20 But the wicked are like the tossing sea, which cannot rest, whose waves cast up mire and mud. 21 “There is no peace,” says my God, “for the wicked.” Isaiah 57: 14-21. "ALL" WiLL "Be Revealed" Jehovah's Witnesses, Nothing Will Remain Hidden, Luke 12: 1-3! "13 The LORD says: “These people come near to Me with their mouth and honor Me with their lips, but their hearts are far from Me. Their worship of Me is based on merely human rules they have been taught. 14 Therefore once more I will astound these people with wonder upon wonder; the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish.” 15 Woe to those who go to great depths to hide their plans from The LORD, who do their work in darkness and think, “Who sees us? Who will know?” 16 You turn things upside down, as if The Potter were thought to be like the clay! Shall what is formed say to The One Who formed it, “You did not make me”? Can the pot say to The Potter, “You know nothing”? Isaiah 29: 13-16. You Do "Shed" "Innocent Blood" Jehovah's Wittinesses! I Should Know Because; Me & My Family & Many, Many Persons Are Your Victims! Lord came to me: 9 “The hands of Zerubbabel have laid the foundation of this temple; his hands will also complete it. Then you will know that the Lord Almighty has sent me to you.New International Version And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. International Version And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.New International Version And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.New International Version And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.13 The Lord says: “These people come near to me with their mouth and honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. Their worship of me is based on merely human rules they have been taught.[b] 14 Therefore once more I will astound these people with wonder upon wonder; the wisdom of the wise will perish, the intelligence of the intelligent will vanish.” 15 Woe to those who go to great depths to hide their plans from the Lord, who do their work in darkness and think, “Who sees us? Who will know?” 16 You turn things upside down, as if the potter were thought to be like the clay! Shall what is formed say to the one who formed it, “You did not make me”? Can the pot say to the potter, “You know nothing”?

[@freeminded8509]

@@MrJmurp first of all it's insane to think God would say not to consume blood but take in the veins. Do you know how many people caught HIV from blood transfusions and how people died! from it. you want attack Jehovah's people but they fellow God's commandments people call them a false religion but look at the raft in your own eye. all these religions do the exact opposite of what God says. Yet they say they love God but they solute a flag that allows wars and stands for greed and power. people who are gay accepted in to church as if what not a commandment from God him self. Not all JW just eliminate their family member's that is a family choice ! it's insane to know there are over 8 million people in the org. and to think that everyone is going to handle a situation in a correct way' or is a true JW. it's not even mathematically correct! Is an org. that has the one true God not to have laws and rules to fellow? the punishments are a joke you complain about. if you broke God's laws back in the day you were either put to death or cast from among the people! Go read the 10 commandments again and see the the results if you were to break his statues! Jehovah says the path is narrow not a world wide invitation for people to just do what they want and at the end say I'm sorry forgive me' now let me in the new world. Do you even know what the bible says on how to run the true org. of God's people ? it's defiantly not how the worldly religions do it because they think they can do whatever they want and be forgiven in the end when the damage is already done. all the world does is talk about the things they don't agree with JW but they don't understand all the good they do and what they really stand for. they don't care what the world says. it has nothing but destruction to offer in it's hypocritical system. I hope you find the true God one day. Jehovah is the only real God not the world.

[@MrJmurp]

The Most High God Almighty "Wants Mercy & Not Sacrifice" Hosea 6: 6 (The Old Testement) and Mathew 9: 13 (As Forgiving, Loving, Merciful & Caring Christians). This Is "The Christian" Standard Set by Jesus Himself 2000 Years Ago. Jehovah/Atum/Esau; The Most High Almighty Gods Eldest Son "Wants Sacrifice & Not Mercy" Isaiah 14: 20. And The Jehovahs Wittnesses Show "No Mercy" Like Their God to "Erring Ones" Mathew 18: 21-22, As "Set" by Jesus Himself! The Jehovahs Wittneesess Elders Excomunicate Around 1% of Their People per Annum! That's 10% Per Decade! And that's why you keep bringing them in! Your 'The Merciless' "In Out, Shake Them All About" Cult Religion! Who People Should Be Warned About! In Your New World Order 10% of the Worlds Population Would "Equate" To 70,000,000 People being Excommunicated or "Executed" Every 10 Years. Or A "Second World War" "Worth" Of Your Own People Every 10 Years "Executed" on The "Say So" of 3 Elders without Anyone "Daring" To Question! The Law of Moses Does "Show" "Mercy" to Ones Who "Sin" Even "A Whole Community" as Well as "Individual Persons" and They Are forgiven Read the whole of Chapter 4 of Leviticus And Numbers Chapter 15 Verses 22 to 27. And "Young" Jews Were Allowed to Have "An Engaged" Boyfriend/Girlfriend Who was "Viewed" as "Their" Husband/Wife before Setting up their own home, while living at home with their parents Deuteronomy 22: 23 to 30. Anyone Touching Someones "Engaged" Girlfiend Was Touching Someones Wife! So The Engaged Couples Could Have Lots of Fun together before setting up their own home! Proverbs 5: 15-19 And Ecclesiastes 11: 9. God Almighty Cares about Women, So look after your "Engaged Girlfriend" "The Wife of Your Youth" and be Loyal to Her, For "God Amighty Is Bearing Wittness" Malachi 2: 13 to 16.

[@MrJmurp]

I am Sorry! I Got My Numbers Wrong! 1% of The Worlds Population of 7,000,000,000 Is 70,000,000 Per Year! If The Jehovahs Wittnesses "New World Order" Went Ahead 70,000,000 "Erring" Persons Would Be "Executed" Every Year on "The Say So" of Three Dying Human Elders without Any Person Being Able To Question without "Risk" to "Their" Own Lives! The Watchtower Society Have Stated in their Older Books that; "The Only reason that Disfellowshipped Persons Are Not Put to Death is that; Present Day Govenrments Don,t Allow It! In the "New World Order" They Would Be "The World Wide" Government! So There Would Be: "No Escape" No World Outside To Protect You "Honest" Erring Ones! The Truth Is "They Keep" and "Use" "The Perferts" Inside & Outside & Want Everyone To Become Dishonest Hypocrites Who "Lie" Throught Their Teeth to Stay In There & Not Lose Their Family Members! Their Mums, Their Dads, Their Brothers, Their Sisters, Their Children, Their Uncles, Their Aunts, Their Cousins etc! I Know Because I Have Lost Everyone that Was Dear to Me for Over 33 Years! Once Disfellowshipped, Always Disfellowshipped! Your "Record" in Their Congregaton "Safe" Follows You For Life No Matter Where You Live! And If One Congregation, One Perfert Dishonest Elder "Makes Up Lies" About You These Lies Follow You From Congregation to Congregation for The Rest of Your Life! And You Are Totally "Unaware" that These "Lies" Exist because You "Never" Did What "The Record" says You Did in the First Place! Until someone "Blurts" Out Something that You are "Completely" Unaware of As A Fact! And The Lying Family Members "Inside" The Jehovahs Wittnesses "Lie" To Your Relatives On The Outside so as to "Take" Your Share of Your Inheritance that was "Promised" to You By Your Unbelieving Father for All the Hard Work that You Did in Caring for His Estate and Your Younger Siblings!

[@sHinjiKunTVvLogSite]

Most people love to see JW's being ridiculed in public. Why? Most people love to ask questions to JW's just to ridicule them. Why? Just like mr. Phil here, answer those questions by talki g to a JW member, Or just go into the website jw.org i bet even those who want to debare things over the bible will find it amusing hat all their questions were being answered directly. Just remember CURIOSITY is the best thing that happened to men AFTER the sin at eden.

[@paullopez5120]

and do the attack commences already prophecied in the holy Bible.... we stand firm faithful n loyal to Jehovah....soon the great religious Great Tribulation will come

[@mickbland3990]

@@debbie8023 the trinity doctrine is rubbish wake up it doesn't make any sense ,why would Jesus pray to himself it's absolute bollocks,you are on the wrong path three god's in one is from ancient religions crazy ideas from the past that people made up

[@rhodaknight5707]

I was also little Gobitas. Everett Washington 1971 Hawthorn elementary school. Til 1976. Jehovah Is the loving Father who I went to and when being slapped down ostracized and shamed.I was HAPPY.

[@tommyboy6267]

Thank you. I do NOT recommend any child be exposed to the intollerance and religious persicution I was subjected to in my school years...GOD NO. But... what doesn't kill you only makes you stronger. And I think that was the point Mr. Donahue was trying to make.

[@MrVincenzo49]

ABSOLUTELY THE TRUTH. ABSOLUTE FREEDOM FOR ANYONE TO WORSHIP AS HE SEES FIT AND NO ONE HAS THEE RIGHT TO SAY OTHERWISE. THANKS PHIL.

[@GoodScienceForYou]

Isaiah 42: 8 I am Jehovah. That is my name; I give my glory to no one else,* Nor my praise to graven images.

[@nexus1g]

He said that his death was necessary as prophesied. That's the only reason he stopped his follower.

[@315froggy]

A thought about being brave or being frightened. My parents converted when I was five years old. For way too many years, I was the odd kid on the block. My dad conducted the one hour bible study on Tuesday evenings and I was always there with him. That included being at the ministry school meetings on Thursdays for two hours, the one hour public lecture on Sunday afternoons followed by another hour for the Watchtower study. Prior to the Sunday meetings, I was with him for several hours preaching door to door. (I would do an Indian tribal dance in my bedroom praying for rain!) Several times a week he would offer a drive to some of the older brothers and sisters and then return them home after the chats at meetings end. There's plenty of information available now thanks to the internet that would have made heads spin back in the fifty's and sixty's so I won't comment on other issues. Read them for yourself and see how many stories start sounding the same. When my mother took her life, my dad was a mess. There were no services at the Kingdom Hall for her because of her actions. Several years later my dad married a divorced woman. He was disfellowshiped and shunned by the very people he had helped over the years. He died a painful death a few years after that from colon cancer. He didn't receive any cards or flowers while in the hospital and not one person came to see him. So much for being the "lost sheep". Here's my question to all the JW's still out there preaching. If Jesus had been walking by my fathers room while he was taking his final breaths, Do you think he would have stopped in?

[@315froggy]

SmalltimR Holy bedpans there Batman! For a minute there I thought you said, "Nope."

[@andrzejandrzejwww]

Try answer to yourself: Would it be good in Jehovah's eyes to break the rules by Jesus, just only because he was your dad?(Matt.21:13)

[@315froggy]

Andrzej Wierzchowski Man up and read Crisis of Conscience cover to cover and then read some police reports of crimes against Elders that would make some of our Catholic friends sick, and then talk to me about their man made rules. Give it a rest Wierzchowski. You and your NWT of the bible are playing cards in a wind tunnel

[@315froggy]

SmalltimR You're saying after reading over 400 pages that there wasn't one thing written about that raised a red flag in your head? You seem to have an open mind. I think it should be closed for repairs.

[@andrzejandrzejwww]

John Searing Sorry, Mr Searing, I don't know how, but somehow I've made mistake. I didn't mean Matt. 21:13 but 24:13. I'm sorry for that. After all I don't need to read any reports about the elders, because I know enough such elders, who i would sent to the prison long time ago. Anyway it does not change the meaning of the Bible's truth. I was going to be a prist in RCC, but I was searching the Bible myself. Asking prists for exolanations, THEY NEVER HAD TIME TO DO THAT ! I understood where is the truth, and none BIG ELDER by his false conduct wil change that. The NWT, does not have any influence on my opinions and decisions. I know that it is not easy to live in the congrigation where are such false bro's, but always can talk to an OVERSEER. Remember MR. Searing, This fact, that police arrests such false elders is only the evidence, that Jesus takes care about the cleannes of his congregations.

[@penel100]

God love you!

[@daykay2231]

We obey God as ruler rather than men

[@dbspooky]

Does the WT Organization recommend reading the Bible??? The Watchtower, Aug. 15, 1981; p29 "From time to time, there have arisen from among the ranks of Jehovah's people those who, like the original Satan, have adopted an independent, faultfinding attitude . . . They say that it is sufficient to read the Bible exclusively, either alone or in small groups at home. But, strangely, through such 'Bible reading,' they have reverted right back to the apostate doctrines that commentaries by Christendom's clergy were teaching 100 years ago..." Amazing. I would highly recommend that you in fact do read the Bible...you will be shocked.

[@dbspooky]

***** I have been to their web site many times. I study with JWs regularly, shown many of them the truth of God's Holy Word. I have even had elders to say to me that they discourage independent Bible reading and study and have been absolutely shocked by things written in the Bible....hmmm? Many of the JWs have been convinced by the WT society writings that they must use their publications in order to understand the Bible. If you read the the Watchtower post I posted then you would know that in fact they DO NOT promote daily bible reading, however promote reading only WT literature. Ask yourself, did the NT writers include an extra document to explain what the scriptures actually say?, when Paul wrote his epistles did he send anything extra or just the epistle?? 2 Tim 3:15-17 And that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work. Bible alone is sufficient, it does not contradict as man's teachings and writings do. It says what it says. Thank you Jesus for your awesome Holy Word.

[@01Mary02]

***** Actually, they're "known the world over" for denying blood transfusions and, more recently, for covering up pedophiles in the congregations.

[@janitaremillong3800]

Janita

[@ArsonistArborist]

***** there are plenty of articles written by Jehovah's Witnesses that highlight that particular scripture. Witnesses read the entire bible. Weekly they go into a detailed review a few chapters of a bible. The next week they read a few more chapters, starting where they left off.. they don't skip anything. It's easy to say all you want about Witnesses on KZbin, but if anyone ACTUALLY wants to know what they believe or do not, talk to a real Witness. Or search a subject on JW.org. If you wanted to know how a Ford works, you wouldn't seek advice from GMC, their competition. If you wanted to know how to repair a BlackBerry, you wouldn't go to Apple for advice. Go to the source, ask Witnesses what they believe. Not what some random commenter on KZbin says they believe.

[@ArsonistArborist]

***** this will be my last comment, as its a waste of time and I can use my time much more productively m.wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1102001026?q=is+45%3A7&p=par --see paragraph 11 m.wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200001102?q=is+45%3A7&p=par --under subtitle "conquest of Babylon" m.wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200001452?q=is+45%3A7&p=par#h=4 --under the subheading "The Meaning of Jehovah’s Bringing Evil" That's a few to get you started. There's more, but I'm going to go use my time more productively. I have a feeling that no matter what I say, you will have some reply to comeback with and I'm not looking for a debate. I just hope others won't listen to this nonsense and judge Witnesses by what they see hear. Talk to a Witness or consult JW.org to see what they actually believe in. Which is the bible. Take care.

[@jeanettekelly4070]

I would b proud if my child could b so brave in these cases..& I believe worship belongs only to Almighty God...whose name is Jehovah...thank u Phil Donahue....for your fair comments..🌸🌸🌸

[@GoodScienceForYou]

22 Then Jehovah said to Moses: 23 “Tell Aaron and his sons, ‘This is the way you should bless+ the people of Israel. Say to them: 24 “May Jehovah bless you+ and safeguard you. 25 May Jehovah make his face shine upon you,+ and may he favor you. 26 May Jehovah lift up his face toward you and grant you peace.”’+ 27 And they must place my name upon the people of Israel,+ that I may bless them.”+