Phil Johnson | Love is Convictional: Why True Love Communicates Hard Truths | 2 John

[@DeaconBeanCooter]

If you love people, you tell them the TRUTH

[@Pastor_Grant]

Glad Phil responded to Alistair. Hopefully he will repent before shepherd's conference or if he goes. Phil will address him like he did. Al Mohler. Can always depend on JMAC & Philly J - am going to use a clip of this for a video I am releasing 1/30/2024 thanks!

[@lenorenail1934]

What a wonderful teaching on love and truth.

[@joshuamorris9630]

Agree with you Pastor Teacher Phil Johnson to preach teach the scripture in the Bible in Christ Jesus

[@JesusIsKING7140]

Thank you and God bless. 🙏✝️ Praying our Father leads Alister to repentance in Jesus name 🙏✝️

[@davidmoran6785]

Good preaching

[@thisgeneration2894]

Keep preaching brother Preach it in Love

[@danielhorton911]

Thank you Phil for speaking and preaching on the truth, a gem that will always personify when given.

[@newstory5885]

Thank you! ♥ I live right up the road from Calvery Babist Church in Covington/ Latonia Ky and knew of Pastor Wiersbe. The church grew because of his faithfulness to the scripture. I never attended 😟

[@annerector8765]

Warren Wiersbe was one of the LORD's greatest servants. A true man of the Bible and a wonderful preacher. Glad you mentioned him.

[@crocodile7801]

We are neighbors. Pastor DeGraff was a wonderful pastor there and was ousted to the detriment of Calvary Baptist church. I had the privilege to hear and meet John Macarthur there.

[@UnknownUser-dy6ij]

Bid all our sad divisions cease. Be Yourself our King of Peace! God is good. I love my brothers and sisters in Christ. Come Lord Jesus

[@jimkuhn3500]

Thanks Pastor Phil for touching on Alister Begg / I pray Pastor John and yourself remove Begg from The upcoming SHEPHERDS CONFERENCE unless he repents... Thanks for SUCH a powerful message... AMEN ...TRUE BIBLICAL LOVE ....

[@JacquelineFrankneeKenyon]

Might be good that he goes, so that he can explain himself. Furthermore, maybe the men their can talk sense in him in light of scripture.

[@Gracepjvirojph]

some how I don't feel the shepherd's heart from this preacher. I can only here " I'm right, I'm right, I'm right." So sorry to say this ... don't mean it in any disrespectful way. Just my opinion.

[@jimkuhn3500]

SO TRUE !!!!! " PRIDE " has overtaken him .....@@Gracepjvirojph

[@john318john]

​@@JacquelineFrankneeKenyon You cannot wait for him to come. They need to address it now.

[@michnotw8025]

As i said above: "I really think it would be beneficial for all of us if he HAD to go, b/c a) I am afraid the whole thing may cause a chasm (which certainly is not in our best interest) and b) AB would have to explain himself in front of his peers instead of his "disciples" at home." Would you rather like to see him as a "martyr" on mainstream TV? BTW: I do agree with Pastor Phil and we did call Ligonier where we received a pleasantly surprising response!

[@Babesyann]

Thanks Phil

[@robg380]

I completely understood Pastor Begg's reasoning and conviction of his response to the grandmother at the onset of this internet hysteria ... because I have listened to him often and I know his heart as well as his endearing love for Christ. Never did I interpret his counsel on this matter as an "endorsement or affirmation" of the said grandchild's lifestyle or behaviour. It is a matter of an aging grandmother deeply grieving (in tears) the lost road travelled by her beloved grandchild and the grandmothers desire (out of love) to keep any hope of contact alive. The grandchild knows prior to her grandmothers attendance that the blessing of her grandmother on this union would not be forthcoming. But the grandmothers steadfast love, hope and prayers always will be. But for the grace of God, where would any of us be ?

[@Raynisha1120]

““Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. And a person’s enemies will be those of his own household. Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me, and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. And whoever does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me. Whoever finds his life will lose it, and whoever loses his life for my sake will find it.” ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭10‬:‭34‬-‭39‬ ‭ESV‬‬

[@john318john]

Ephesians 5:6 6Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. 7Therefore do not be partakers with them; 8for you were formerly darkness, but now you are Light in the Lord; walk as children of Light 9(for the fruit of the Light consists in all goodness and righteousness and truth), 10trying to learn what is pleasing to the Lord. 11Do not participate in the unfruitful deeds of darkness, but instead even expose them; 12for it is disgraceful even to speak of the things which are done by them in secret

[@PBAdventures146]

Yea I understood it as well. He was trying to show compassion for a grandmother. But compassion does not supercede holiness or boundaries. If a woman encouraged her parents to come to a strip show she is doing in celebration of her promotion, should the parents show her compassion because they love her. attending and watching a gay "wedding" is every bit as evil as watching a strip show. It's not consistent with scripture in any way. I love Paster Begg and have listened to him for years. I do not question his motives. But Uzzah's motives were good as well when he reached out to steady the ark when the oxen stumbled, God was angry and killed him because he disobeyed. We can't let emotions or compassion supercede truth and obedience. My hope is that some other mature pastors will lovingly confront him and he changes his opinion. I know for me, if he recognized his error and corrected it, I would continue on with him as if it never happened. I may even respect him more. You don't see many men of his stature, humble themselves and change in today's era.... sadly.

[@melaniehart8832]

It’s not a union. God says what a union is and isn’t. The issue is a low view of God, of God’s Holy Word, and of God’s view of marriage. Cultivate a high view of each of those then cultivate a higher view still. The answers become very clear.

[@rustynail766]

Yes, a very refreshing response. Those who are waiting for Pastor Begg to repent (real quickly now) should examine themselves as the Bible teaches.

[@bjqb1108]

Waiting for Phil (or someone in authority) to address the issue of Shepherd's Conference relative to Alistair being slated to speak.

[@ConcernedONETOO]

Yes, if he is willing to compromise on this issue, what else?

[@christinehunt625]

Religion News reported on a letter from Phil Johnson in which Johnson stated that after a phone conversation between MacArthur and Begg, the two decided between them it would be a distraction for Begg to attend and therefore he would not be at Shepherd's Conference this year.

[@nykka3]

@@christinehunt625Phil also stated that MacArthur told Begg he wouldn’t give that advice to the grandmother.

[@raifcluster]

"This man welcomes sinners and eats with them!!" I've heard that before.

[@emmaaudu3461]

What context are you referring to? I think the main reason people are speaking about this, is because of what Marriage pictures. Christ and His church. The wedding makes mockery of that picture and I am sure the grandmother does not hate her child when she does not attend.

[@raifcluster]

@@emmaaudu3461, that same point was made to me by a believer dear to me, and she made me rethink things a bit. My problem with judging ABegg was that the same accusations seem to have come also from the Pharisees in Luke 15:2. I'm sure there were a few whores, adulterers, tax collectors and across-the-gambit sinners present at that time. My thinking was that although Begg is willing to do what I personally would not do, that I could not bring myself to stand in judgment of him. If for any other reason that I myself have been forgiven of some very grievous sins, and couldn't bring myself to be unforgiving toward him. Having said that, I see now what you and my friend are saying. Marriage is a picture of Christ and the Church, whether it's done by unregenerates or saved individuals. When homosexuals do it, it harkens to blasphemy that goes back to Genesis. If for any other reason, Begg should change his mind just so as to not stumble his brothers and sisters in Christ.

[@emmaaudu3461]

@@raifcluster Trust me personally I am not condemning him. I have listened to Truth for life for a while now and completely respect him. I am glad you see from that point. The grandmother was actually taken aback too with his advice, which shows despite how hurtful it was, she still loved her grandchild but still recognized the symbol of marriage. I also pray he comes to see the point many are trying to make. Attending a wedding is very symbolical and I mean there is that part where the minister asks for objection right?

[@sandyharman5067]

His points at around 46 mins, was why I could never understand how we sent pastors to the TG4 conferences. We agree somewhat on gospel, but disagree on a lot. Now we see we disagreed on a lot more. Much damage has been done by propping up the charismatic movement in TG4

[@judycambern9024]

Appears most of us Christians are in agreement that the homosexual trans marriage was not a Christian marriage or sanctioned by our God. So by that, are our missionaries abroad forbidden to observe or attend a Hindu, or Muslim, or whatever marriage because they are not Christian marriages? To my understanding the grandmother was not a participant but an observer of a non Christian marriage. Are the missionary boards holding these missionaries to the same standard as they are Pastor Begg?

[@87Hadley]

God designed marriage to be between a man and a woman, it is a gift. And God allows even believers to enjoy this gift by marrying. A man and woman marrying outside of Christ is nothing like two men or two women claiming to marry. It is also commanded that a believer should not marry an unbeliever as that is being unequally yoked.

[@sarahholbrook3636]

The sinners came to Jesus. He didn’t go to them and join them in the bars or false Sacraments . My son thinks he is a homosexual and was in a relationship with a man. We told him he could come see us but he could not bring that relationship into our home. He comes to see us . We love him very much . He says he is not in any relationship with a man now i pray not.

[@SecondPeter_twovs9]

May our merciful God open the eyes of your son so that he will long to know the Person of Jesus Christ and be set free from the spirit of this age.❤

[@bcm1621]

Totally agree with everything Phil said based on God's word and bot the emotionalism of those who support such nonsense.

[@Over-for-now]

It's all about God's honor and glory. Not our opinions or compassion towards Mr Begg God was not honored in Mr Beggs communication

[@robg380]

You would do well to remember and acknowledge that both Pastor Begg and the grandmother made known their non-affirming sentiments of this union to the grandchild. Our heavenly Father surely understands the no win predicament faced by this grandmother. And He surely understands that if she were to attend, it was born of her desperate attempt out of love .. and not compromise .. to maintain a relationship with her dearly loved grandchild at this late stage in her life. In no way is she "choosing" the child before her relationship with Christ. And in no way was Pastor Begg advising her to that end. On the contrary. Her anguish and despair should make this very clear. I have seen "love communicating hard truths". And I have seen the victims of this type of "Godly" counsel, as I'm certain that you and others in your circle have as well. And so, let us all who are under grace examine ourselves.

[@DB-cx6cb]

Matthew 5:37 But let your communication be, Yea , yea; Nay, nay, for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.( Satan ) If a True Believer attended a same sex marriage and the Pastor ask the congregation “ is there anyone here have any objections to these two becoming one?” If you sit idly in your pew silent, would you not be complicit in their Sin? Any believer who attends should object if they are asked this Godly Confirmation. I will never attend a same sex marriage, but Grandma being given sinful counsel to go so not to offend the grandson is somewhat disturbing.

[@deanvanlaarhoven1413]

Phil, you are wrong at 3:30. Nowhere in Beggs message or comments about his council. Did he say that you should be motivated by fear. Goodness gracious Phil. He did not say that fear is the motivation for your actions. That is a misrepresentation Phil.

[@deandalley3607]

Not really! You are spitting hairs! What Phil said was the same as saying what Begg said in that Christians are labeled judgmental and such if they don't attend these ceremonies!

[@firstthes2811]

What? Begg literally makes it clear that he is concerned that if Grandma, and obviously the Christianity she would be representing, doesn't go she would be confirming how judgmental those at the wedding already think Christians are. Fearful of that he recommends that she go... with gifts. The wedding is a sham as much as the marriage it supposedly creates is and Begg should be more concerned with what God thinks about it, and Grandma attending the sham event, then whoever else is at the thing. Oh, and let's not forget that whoever the trans person is is already mocking God by acting like he/she can decide what only God can decide. This is a major blunder by Begg and the fact that he doesn't think so and doubled down on it is a slap right to the face of God.

[@indigatorveritatis5298]

Let's play this game, since you're so concerned about what Phil said... are you backing Alistair in this issue?

[@niram4107]

Dean, let's not be too hasty to dismiss the possibility of a Christian acting out of fear. Many Christians would be fearful of the consequences of saying to a loved one - I love you but I cannot attend your event as your event is a celebration of sin. A celebration of a union that is sinful, unnatural and immoral and one that desecrates God's ordinance of marriage. Many Christians would fear being ostracised by their loved one and called unloving and uncompassionate. But the biggest fear for the Christian would be the fear of jeopardising the opportunity for their loved gay family member or friend to come to know the Lord and repent from their lifestyle. Such a fear, although understandable and real, raises a bigger issue for the Christian. That issue is 'do I have strong faith and strong trust in the sovereign power of my Lord that He will provide another opportunity for me, even if I am ostracised, or another means by which my much loved family member or friend can come to repentance?'.

[@Raynisha1120]

His counsel was rooted in the fear of man and not the fear of God. ““A disciple is not above his teacher, nor a servant above his master. It is enough for the disciple to be like his teacher, and the servant like his master. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebul, how much more will they malign those of his household. “So have no fear of them, for nothing is covered that will not be revealed, or hidden that will not be known. What I tell you in the dark, say in the light, and what you hear whispered, proclaim on the housetops. And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell. So everyone who acknowledges me before men, I also will acknowledge before my Father who is in heaven, but whoever denies me before men, I also will deny before my Father who is in heaven.” ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭10‬:‭24‬-‭28‬, ‭32‬-‭33‬ ‭ESV‬‬ “But he answered, “It is written, “‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of God.’”” ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭4‬:‭4‬ ‭

[@francis400]

Begg and Mohler are alike worries not because they are False teachers as such but because they have blind spots which blight some of their overall effectiveness and usefulness. The same in my view could be said of John Piper.

[@nykka3]

Have you seen Mohler’s response to this issue? He doesn’t agree with Begg. Check out his KZbin channel.

[@francis400]

@@nykka3 Mohler's blindspot is the SBC.

[@Death2Commies]

anyone associated with the gospel coalition, an apostate organization, should not be given a platform at ShepCon - Piper, Begg, H.B. Charles all a part of this abomination 2 Cor 6:17

[@john318john]

Please provide evidence that all of these three men are part of GC. Thanks

[@benjaminmoelker8915]

Why is TGC apostate?

[@melaniehart8832]

The TGC organization is a dumpster fire for sure but how do you biblically justify calling it “apostate”? I’m open to agreeing with you, but I’d like some biblical evidence of this

[@Waterman1000]

“Anyone associated with” … So typical of broad-brush painters! Oh, good thing we have you guarding the house with your omniscient assessments Mr. anonymous account with no subscribers. 🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@Death2Commies]

@@Waterman1000 Russell Moore, your opinion is worthless, get lost

[@Babesyann]

So grandma bring the wedding cake?

[@homefixers2805]

silly blow up of a specific application, we will all look back, see perspective, and think to ourself , what an idiot I was to blow this up. the king, leave his throne, came to our disgusting celebrations, to save us...and think he would bar us from a location on earth to do the same? nonsense!

[@bobp7964]

What a shame that yet another brother in Christ has chosen to pre judge Begg and go on to mis represent him from the pulpit. If you had taken the time to fact check instead of jumping to wrong conclusions as the Pharisees did in Jesus’ day you would realise that your message is very much in line with what was in Begg’s mind when he gave the advice he did. “Truth without love is brutality”. I’m witnessing an awful lot of brutality in the comments of people who claim to love as Christ loved.

[@paulwells4372]

I think Alistair Begg should be stopped from going to the conference, and that alone would hopefully let him know where his brothers & sisters in Christ stand on this matter of what he has said. I’m wondering what all the elders at his ministry are thinking? Surely they are not in agreement with him and his unbiblical stance on gay wedding’s.

[@michnotw8025]

I disagree with you, Paul Well. I really think it would be beneficial for all of us if he had to go, b/c a) I am afraid the whole thing may cause a chasm (which certainly is not in our best interest) and b) AB would have to explain himself in front of his peers instead of his "disciples" at home. So far it seems namely AB has refused to talk to even prominent members of the Christian community, not to mention "foot-soldiers" who have donated to his ministry. I hope his peers there won't be happy being labeled "Pharisees" and that the whole incident will be a real "teachable moment". I think if he gets uninvited he may rather dig in his heels which will give his most recent error even more notoriety. I sincerely hope his peers at the conference will be able to persuade him to admit his ego got a bit out of control and many Biblical passages will prevail. No shame to admit you were wrong. Been there, done that. As a superior the people listening to you will even appreciate and learn from it.

[@deanvanlaarhoven1413]

..... As if Alistair would disagree with the concept that love and truth agree 🙄🙄🙄 You people are getting way out ahead of your skis on this one. We are in the presence of God, divorced from common sense on the stage in the limelight before a dying and lost public. This is uncharitable and unchristian.

[@garrettfornea1088]

Stop making excuses. We are to have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, and attending a homosexual wedding is precisely that sort of fellowship.

[@indigatorveritatis5298]

Wow, why are you being so uncharitable and unchristian

[@JacquelineFrankneeKenyon]

​@@garrettfornea1088Amen!! Sadly I think, Alister is the catalyst for the start of the falling away, mentioned in scripture.

[@amapola53]

Love does not rejoice unrighteousness but rejoices with the truth.

[@deanvanlaarhoven1413]

@@amapola53 Amen. Let us know what truth is and who he is and what is his conduct and what ours should be. Get wisdom. Get understanding.

[@danielhorton911]

Thank you Phil for speaking and preaching on the truth, a gem that will always personify when given.