Phil Lesh Interview

[@cyrusdubash3097]

Thank God I lived at the same time as the Grateful Dead.

[@sebastianolmedo7743]

RIP Phil thanks for all your hard work and talent with the bass!😥💔💔

[@LB-qf3ef]

When Jerry passed and tons of us gathered on Art Hill and played drums and just hung out together. This passing brings that flashback vividly to the surface. I sure do hope his family elders and Jerry got to welcome him on Friday.

[@GratefulSam-et3ve]

A brilliant man. Rest in peace, Phil.

[@mountainair]

😢❤

[@RPharpman]

"Like an angel...Standing in a shaft of light... Rising up to paradise" Have fun Phil !!! Thanks for the music

[@rizdog2]

Phil was unique, brilliant, and a really nice person. He spoiled music fans with TXR , and had more fun than anyone else doing it. I've spent 53 of my 65 years listening to Phil play, and I could not thank him enough. If I tried, he'd say well, thank you for listening.

[@bunnybeckman8029]

What a grate musician & memory because he met me in 1978 , knew me immediately & took me & my niece into the backstage area on Mother’s Day in 1980 , my dream came true plus he asked me y I didn’t use my name to get in but I told him I wasn’t ready until that time !

[@kathrynekent5718]

What a beautiful soul! Lucky we had him around to enjoy what he created especially the music with the Greatful Dead. Love his attitude about transcendence through music.

[@sorrowfulsatchel679]

Thank you for the all the boxes of rain and unbroken chains. Rest well big buy.

[@user-sf5uu3ed7b]

I'll miss you Phil. I've spent most of my life with you, whether with the Dead or your other endeavors, and am grateful for that time together. Rest in peace my friend.

[@seankeikbusch9404]

I owe Phil and the rest of the band so much. Their influence has made me a better human being.

[@peglegjim57]

Sadly, Phil passed away today. 😢💔 When I saw them do Terrapin Station live in late ‘77, it was the 1st time I ever saw a 6 string bass, played by a Master! Phil & Jaco & Stanley were the reasons I reached for a bass, and never looked back. I was never any good, but man, I had a hell of a lot of fun for a lot of years, thanx to them.

[@tylerthompson1842]

This is the best description of The Dead’s music I think I’ve ever heard even from Garcia or Hunter.

[@avishy938]

The true genius in this band,it was hard for me to stop listening to him in the shows I attended trying to listen to them as a unit,Phil sounded like that interview, full of creativity and inspiration,and at the same time always in a dialogue with the others, listening carefully to what they were doing and responding brilliantly, thank you Phil for all what you brought.

[@NiallMahoney]

>iuih8

[@iansmith3593]

Turning 80 in a few months. Survived a liver transplant, prostate cancer & bladder cancer. And still looks & acts pretty damn healthy! What a great bass player. I feel fortunate to have seen GD play twice (‘89 & ‘93).

[@andyiwanski939]

Full head of hair at 80

[@apesmalink]

What a guy. He’s one reason I’ve always loved the GD. I admire him and he’s someone I would enjoy talking with. Hardly seems like he’s old but age suits him too.

[@jeremymoorer7033]

He forgot, WSMFP

[@stonejackballer482]

Phils bass takes eery GD song to another level.

[@donjames150]

Don't you mean you feel "grateful"?

[@mikeaustin4138]

Phil is one of the greatest rock bassists ever. I've always considered him to be the Hendrix of rock bassists in the sense that he showed other rock bassists what was possible on the instrument. Plus, his tone is just sublime.

[@jondavid3641]

And he doesn’t get the respect or appreciation in the wider rock community that he should.

[@jwardbass4452]

No one plays like him at all. Completely unique and a one-off talent. Same can be said for the other members but Lesh stands out in the bass world

[@benringenberg2394]

​@@jondavid3641 true, but he is a God in the dead community, and I'm pretty sure that is more than enough for him. I love Phil, very intelligent as well as being an amazing musician.

[@jamesball5743]

Phil sucks, easily replaced.

[@InService77]

My favorite musician for the last 40 years

[@Olddeadleadfoot]

Yet another fine example Phil's vast and diverse intelligence on display within this interview. You, Mr. Lesh, along with the other members of the Grateful Dead have played a central role in my life of raising consciousness and community, and I can't thank you and the boys enough for influencing me, and so many other people, to be good, principled and humble human beings. Rest In Peace, Phil. We love you, brother! ❤️⚡️💙🌈✨

[@matttisdale7606]

Great interview, Phil is an excellent storyteller.....this guy is a musical genius!

[@joeconti4392]

I really enjoy hearing Phil talk. It's beautiful and intelligent on so many levels.

[@namcat53]

Bingo! His playing is even more so.

[@codybluetarp]

Yeah, but it (we know what "it" is), or (whatever "it" is) are not always fun, and not-awkward; but most people would rather Know than not know. Phil knew what he needed to do to be a great bass player. But that, of course, was not all of it. Long Live Phil Lesh RIP; Long Live The Grateful Dead!

[@mjkaswan]

RIP, Phil. Thanks for everything!

[@smittyinwootown5640]

So glad I got to witness him playing and singing Box of Rain. Did My Heart a lot of good. I listen to it to this day when I want to think about All family that are gone. Thanks Phil and Special Thanks to The Great Robert Hunter. 🙏

[@billrose2202]

He's a great bass player. When I saw the Dead numerous times I was just so into Jerry I overlooked Phil but now I can appreciate his playing much more. Wonderful

[@mikeaustin4138]

Jerry, Bob, Phil, and Bill really stand out from most other "rock" musicians with how widely read they are and how articulate they are about discussing their music. Very rare, like the Dead's music itself.

[@mikec6733]

Yes. Owsley Stanley said that he was really impressed that one band had so many members that could intelligently discuss such a wide range of ideas.

[@stephenfitzpatrick3031]

Very rare and unique . I'm an old man now and so so grateful .

[@johnwerkheiser5555]

Thank you, Phil. You made my life so much better, one note at a time. RIP

[@jimvk1]

What an amazing intellectual human being Phil is. Gift from the gods. Keep on helping us "get it"! Magical stuff right here.

[@philrow9652]

Thinking of Phil Today!!! such a great person and what hes done for organ donation

[@suzetteanne]

Phil Lesh’s answers were thoughtful and articulate! I loved hearing how the Grateful Dead was formed! ❤

[@rr7firefly]

Wonderful to hear Phil speaking about the creative process in music composition and about music in general. His early musical training and his knowledge of classical music have given him both range and depth not universally characteristic of popular musicians. There is so much intelligence in that face.

[@chrisb45577]

As an old (61) Deadhead, I do believe that classical music will always be more popular than the Dead.

[@MdMaynard]

Very well said Noe. So enjoyable to listen to this. Thank you to the uploader as well.

[@BigHeartNoBS]

I love Phil. He's a nerd, and I LOVE nerds! ❤❤❤ I miss dancing in The Phil Zone 🎉

[@justwantresults8768]

Wow, Phil speaks exactly like what I'm thinking as the story progresses. Thank you Sir for your service to musical excellence! Fare thee well kind brother.

[@Infinitelite76]

Rest in peace Mr. Phil lesh, rest high upon the mountains...looking down upon the collective that you and your band of brothers helped create and paved the way for..never forgotten, a legendary musician thank you for your contribution to the music community ..

[@sidfernandez7569]

"opened my skull and rearranged my brains". saying things like that is another reason why this guy is so cool.

[@stevefinger]

That phrase hit me as well when i heard it

[@jerroldrichards4084]

Brahms First Symphony. Those who have not heard it, I sort of envy, because you can only hear it the first time once. OK, Brahms and Clara Schumann ... inquiring fans really, really, really would like to know, especially about that sort-of chaperoned visit to Switzerland.

[@jgfunk]

He has more than one brain... Knew he was a genius!

[@tiredcaballero]

Cool sayings and some deep bass thumps. Phil is blessed

[@jivadaya6439]

This man rearranged my brain at different times, not sure what to say

[@charlespeterson3798]

Lived in Eugene and the Bay Area. Late 60's. The Dead were always visiting Kesey. When they came to town people would appear from nowhere. Good people. I remember Mr. Lesh well. A straight ahead, no bluff master of the bass. None like him. Great of you to bring back the memories

[@dougcapehart]

Phil's the best. I met him at a blood drive in Philly and made him laugh when I asked to see his scar. He said, 'You wanna see my scar?' then stood and lifted up his shirt and said 'Cool, huh?.' I said 'Gnarly' and shook his hand. Friggen love that guy

[@beaulyons1977]

This is great 🌹

[@sirqitous]

He was always my favorite in the band (Jerry a close second). Like Phil, a violinist who took up bass to play in rock bands, I found Phil's musical approach and mentality to be the flexible glue that brought the band's sound to life, and kept it fresh as it continued to grow. He's one of the greatest bass guitarists ever. On April 1, 2000 (no fooling), I bumped hard into Phil at a Giants ballgame, as he left the concession stand with two hot dogs (one for him and one for a young man who might have been a grandson). "John Coltrane and Charles Ives" --- yes!

[@Preston_McKnight]

That definitely would’ve been his son

[@johnboyer594]

What a fantastic interview!!

[@ajbianchi85]

Love Phil, incredibly smart and an amazing bass player. The musical convos between him and Jerry make the Dead special

[@SunnyDayTeaFactory]

Love you brother...thsnk you!

[@saintofconsequence]

Phil is one of my fave bassists. I love his syncopations and how he uses a lot of different scale tones.

[@arbogash1852]

His tone is absolutely amazing on American Beauty

[@morganthomas5934]

Arbo Gash if you listen to the Good Old Grateful Dead podcast, either the sugar magnolia or candy man one, it breaks the tracks down and explains that the bass was done by running it through 2 channels to make it sound thicker

[@laurieerickson7205]

📦🌧️, love you Phil. My sincere condolences to your family and friends; love will see us through

[@clarkewi]

One of the most creative musicians that ever lived.

[@andrewmair7371]

Big call… 🙄 😑 🦆

[@jake42ner]

Yep never played songs the same way twice

[@bunnybeckman8029]

Except for Jerry of course , he is the best at what he did but they all had their own creative sides ! Still love the Gratefuldead !

[@stephenfitzpatrick3031]

" I got an invitation to join a band " . Man , didn't we all , ( and most grateful ) . I'm 70 and a half now and some of my most enjoyable moments are when I pick a Grateful Dead track on you tube and play along in my own way . Thank you Grateful Dead .

[@Robin-b2t]

Thank you Phil ❤️

[@lilacrain3283]

The things he starts saying around 11:37 are profound. I think anyone who loves the Dead has intuitively picked up on the idea of them tapping into something bigger and channeling it through their instruments.

[@alfreddorsey8916]

Phil is one of a kind.

[@GizzyDillespee]

@@alfreddorsey8916 His evil twin plays treble

[@cyrusdubash3097]

Yes! I knew it's from on high!

[@jerroldrichards4084]

Thanks, Grateful Dead. I really needed you guys, and what you were doing. Here it is 2020, and I still do. Sort of like a vitamin, Vitamin Dead, now and then.

[@bunnybeckman8029]

Good way of putting it that way a dead vitamin ! If I don’t listen to them for a day I’m not me so I have too ! It’s like an addiction ! ❤😅

[@matthewmoggridge5221]

What amazes me is that he was 75 at the time of this interview, but he looks great, easily 20 years younger than he is.

[@DennisCampbell777]

The Mythical Ethical Icicle Tricicle.

[@mondoenterprises6710]

Beautiful description of how they built their music from Phil Lesh. RIP.

[@teramike1501]

What a fantastic job of clearly explaining something intangible. Go Phil!

[@charlesbridgeman440]

What a thoroughly nice,articulate guy he is. He really gets to the heart of what the Dead were about.Love em all!

[@MrForestExplorer]

Wow. Yeah. Phil lays it out for us here. Such a genius. He articulates the various eras of the bands progression in such an elegant way. Thanks for sharing.

[@LewisSutton-u5t]

Brahms first symphony, my man. You got it right Phil!

[@ryanfisher1926]

I heard that eternal music that's constantly playing some where in the cosmos through the Grateful Dead. A very great interview, thanks Phil. I never knew why I liked their music so much, just did, and now I know why because on occasion the Grateful Dead Tapped into that music that reveals the best energy. And then you kind of jones for hearing and feeling it again and again. I never get tired of the listening to The Grateful Dead.

[@daveweigel2985]

And it's just a box of rain Or a ribbon for your hair Such a long, long time to be gone And a short time to be there RIP Phil

[@delphinbringsby6768]

National Treasure: Phil Lesh

[@johncarr2333]

What an awesome interview. Best description of where a "song" comes from. The Grateful Dead is a fortunate 'event' for us humans

[@freedomworks3976]

Read Phil’s book “searching for the sound” good stuff

[@fernandobolanos1649]

Is better than the Bill?

[@tiredcaballero]

Only book I've ever finished

[@freedomworks3976]

@@fernandobolanos1649 no Bills book was better , but both are real good

[@fernandobolanos1649]

@@freedomworks3976 i read the amazon advance of Bill's book and got me, the Phil's book was boring

[@commontater8630]

If you like Phil in this interview, *definitely* read his book!

[@johnmcdonald9304]

Very glad I got to share the time and space on this Earth with this band. Bill Kreutzmann was my main influence in playing the drums.

[@thomasmcdonald9521]

Great interview Matt. One of my all time hero's telling me his secrets in my living room. Thanks for taking the time to edit and post it.

[@rhythmfield]

I was in a teenage high school band called Diogenès in the NYC suburbs (New Rochelle). We did a little “field trip” together to Madison Square Garden to see the Dead. we had seats overlooking the stage and were pretty inebriated all afternoon. Phil came out early to tuneup or check his bass or something-we were young serious musicians, and really respected this guy, but for some goddamn reason we started heckling him, just trying to get his attention I guess-nothing rude-probably something like “hey Phil, hey man!” Etc. Well, we got his attention, and he was mildly irritated so with his back to us, he dropped his jeans and hung a moon right at us. The message was clear and hilarious and we were rolling around laughing. I’m one of very few people in this world who can declare: I was mooned by Phil Lesh - - - RIP Maestro, hope to catch you in that great jam session beyond.

[@jbiz447]

RIP Phil. Backbone of Grateful Dead…

[@markcraven3842]

Excellent interview. One word. Genius....

[@alexroast]

In a parallel universe, there is no Grateful Dead. Instead there's the Mythical Ethical Icicle Tricycle.

[@bobareebop]

We can only hope so!

[@markd7811]

😂 yeah!!!

[@nankypooh655]

This interview only reinforces every reason why Phil is my favorite out of all of them. Great bass, Lesh Phil-ling. Sincerely, an unabashed Phil Head. (And be sure to read his autobiography, Searching For The Sound! It's totally worth it!)

[@danmeehan5801]

His book is amazing. Met him at his restaurant.

[@kennyschachat]

I agree. Reading his autobiography and his descriptions of the Dead's music affirmed and confirmed everything that I had perceived and thought and experienced through their music, going back to when I first heard them play live in 1967 and many other shows and of course on their records. Not surprising of course, but nice to read it in Phil's own words. One of the things that I always like about the Dead was how articulate they are about their music.

[@gaylelau001]

Phil looks awsome !

[@jondavid3641]

Phil is such a smart guy. Arguably the second most important member in fashioning the Dead’s music behind Jerry.

[@terrym5023]

"I came to a dead end" You certainly did thankfully Phil!! 😝

[@hotticket7772]

Great interview with hyper articulate Phil. His reference to Ives is spot on amazing. He makes the case for music in all forms about as well as a human can.

[@NiallMahoney]

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[@flashbackactivator6565]

Great interview, thanks for this. Phil, please do more long form interviews, documentaries, etc. Perspective is enhanced when context is given to varied aspects of the experience. Glad we once shook hands at the Tattered Cover bookstore in Denver. ~Peace~

[@guadalahonky4002]

Phil's last line is sublime. Peace.

[@leodeemyze]

One of the best explanations of how songs are written. I'm a songwriter and I couldn't have said it better!

[@daviddemar8749]

What a wonderful interview. It's fantastic for me to discover how articulate and insightful Phil is. How great that Phil was really into Ives. It totally makes sense. Another tidbit I learned- Crosby and Nash helped the GD with songwriting and singing harmonies.

[@daviddemar8749]

@@humanbeing5300 Fascinating to know I'll have to check it out. Thanks for the info🌷⚘🥀😊👍

[@jsoon71]

@@daviddemar8749 Give the recent Good Ol' Grateful Deadcast a listen, particularly the recent episodes related to American Beauty. There are extended segments with both Crosby and Nash talking about hanging and working with the Dead in those days. Both state unequivocally that they didn't "help" the Dead with their vocal arrangements or their songwriting. Jerry, Hunter and the rest of the guys knew what they were doing. Influenced (particularly on the vocals), certainly, but "helped" implies that they worked with them on the vocal arrangements or the song construction, which doesn't sound accurate, based on interviews, etc. Also, Crosby is listed as the producer on his first solo record, not Jerry. Jerry spent a lot of time at the studio with Crosby and plays guitar and pedal steel on a number of tracks (Phil, Billy, and Micky also appear on several tracks). Crosby talks about all of this at length on the podcast I mentioned. It's really interesting stuff.

[@daviddemar8749]

@@jsoon71 I will follow up on this . Thank you for the time and effort you spent on this comment. It is the type of " epistle " that I often post and is qualitatively and quantitatively above and beyond the juvenile stuff that passes for communication amongst adults in the digital age in which we now live. I really appreciate it. P.S. If you dont already play an instrument, I invite you to try doing it. It is never to late to start. I've been a hobbyist-guitarist off and on since 1970 when I was ten. It's clear that you love listening to great music. I can tell you that based on decades of my experience, actually making music is way way way more enjoyable than "just" listening to it. Keep rocking🎼🎶🎵🎶👍🇺🇸🎸

[@jsoon71]

@@daviddemar8749 Yeah, no problem, man. Easy to come off like a jerk on the internet, so glad that wasn't your impression of my comment. I've gone on a bit of a Dead biography binge during Covid, as well as listening to various podcasts. It's a really interesting story, and, obviously, I love the music. I do play the guitar semi-competently, and I agree, it is pretty rewarding. Take care, man.

[@jeffdawson2786]

Really the anchor and sophisticate of the band.

[@josephferguson4507]

Cool grandmother story thank you very much well done very relaxed very informative historical and why I love the music and the communion community thank you Phil long may you run

[@SpaceAlienJesus]

Rest Easy, Phil And thank you for all the great music for decades. We will all miss you...

[@mongoarts]

Shaman Red Kilowatt was singular! Long may your bass spin our spines rattle our minds fill spaces all unknown where the midnight sun she shines ❤

[@scarletbegonias2359]

It's interesting listening to him describe being lost inside of the music. The audience and the band feeding off each other, reaching new heights.

[@krautperker]

I heart the Grateful Dead first time at the German Rockpalast in 1981. It blew me away . There was Elvis ,Beatles and Stones ,but these guys were playing different. Great people the Dead

[@markpbetz]

Phil is the best!!! Was lucky enough to run into him before his Halloween show, in Chicago, circa 2006. (When he was touring w/ Phil & Friends & Bob Dylan) It was only a few minutes, but I got to tell him how much his music meant to me, and shake his hand. Being a bass player also, I was bummed out when I realized, none of his bass playing awesomeness transferred to me via osmosis....

[@nankypooh655]

Are you sure that wasn't 2004? They did a three night stint at The Riviera in the Uptown neighborhood of Chicago around that time, but I don't recall Phil being in Chicago around 2006.

[@markpbetz]

@@nankypooh655 it's very possible. I've always been bad with dates. :) It would take forever to look thru my box of stubs, to find the exact date.

[@ericlaurenceglassman]

RIP Phil...You were my favorite bass player un my favorite band, Thanks for the music and memories. You were a true legend and great man!

[@golds04]

I read somewhere Phil felt under appreciated for his role in the creative process of the dead- not to anyone who has unclogged ears. Brilliantly inventive player.

[@bustermot]

I have to admit that I under appreciated Phil. First there was Jerry and then Bob and then Pigpen then Donna. Jk. But really I just think Phil was sidelined by the music press. I feel like bassists often are. Now I see him for what he is. Super cool and every bit his band mates equal.

[@WinkLinkletter]

I started to really deliberately listen to his bass genius when I saw "The Phil Zone" Twilight Zone font bumper stickers.

[@paulmegna210]

Phil is the most well spoken member of this band and clearly has enlightened me as to what the Grateful Dead became and shed more light on how a band forms, particularly his band and their music. I would have loved to have had him as a music teacher, but he is above that now (probably always was meant to be a creator, not a teacher, but would've been a great teacher anyway); I always loved hearing phil's bass when I was tripping. Three River's Stadium in Pittsburgh was special for me for some reason, the acoustics and the seating in the third row on the first tier. I could hear the bass rip through me better there then if I was up in front, and I have been as close to as the 11th row at a dead show. Man I am sorry to disappoint Phil by saying these things, but I wasn't always the most obedient listener, but I was never the guys he hated that hung outside looking for a ticket or looking to simply cash in on the name of the band. There is and never will be a jam band like this one in history and i wish Jerry would've showed up ath the hall of fame and I wish other genres of music would've given the Dead more recognition. Just listen to this man speak and you can tell he knows his shit, he knows music. As Anthony Keidis said of Flea at their induction ceremony,'.....is a true rocker.' Phil Lesh was a the real fucking deal. a real rocker. On bass, he was the link between the heart of Jerry's leads and harmony and Bobby and the drums and percussive aspect of the keys rhythms. The link that made our souls shatter and our minds blown.

[@MaureenObrien-h1e]

Well said Paul and I 💯 agree. 😊❤ og deadhead

[@matthewmaguire3554]

So happy to hear Phil say at 12:36 what I’ve been saying for many years to the uninitiated...To really get the full experience of a Greatful Dead show.....”You Can’t Be There”!!!.....The Zen guys are always making the same point but about life in general. Thank You Greatful Dead🙏

[@RydeHeritageGroup]

What a lovely interview, thanks Phil you succeeded in creating that community

[@rhythmfield]

As a pro musician and lifelong seeker of musical adventures (jazz drummer), this great interview reveals Phil as a guy I could pull an all-nighter with, talking and exchanging ideas and maybe even playing. He’s a GREAT and totally unique musician.

[@garysenier2440]

WOW ... this interview opened up a whole new understanding of the grateful dead and their success. The most profound thing I learned and know realize is that they each came from such a totally different background of music. That they all where committed to come together and make it work. This in the end is what made the dead so good. ***Diversity + togetherness = WOW *** ... hhhmm maybe there is a political statement there as well oh hey check this out "Make America Grate Again"

[@stillaliveandwell5291]

Phil's book (Searching for the Sound) on life with the band is the best of reads, gives me energy like this interview.

[@stonejackballer482]

Phil's bass took GD music to another level.

[@v32unes48]

Great interview, Matt. I've had the pleasure of hanging a bit with Phil over the years and he's always be a fascinating guy much less a sublime musician. Lots of fun and enthusiasm in this interview for anyone who is new to the GD story. Always good to hear Phil's perspective on anything.

[@Erik_1538]

v32unes Suuuuure...

[@agentm00se]

phil always looks like hes super happy when hes playing, just pure jokes through all the sets hahaha

[@aaronbrooks7132]

When I brought my energy shit was the best. Good times. My favorite Bassist.

[@danielbuckingham2802]

Phil is a True-Gem!

[@truthnfreedomseeker]

Great interview! Long live the Phil Zone.

[@allanfifield8256]

12:26 "At the best moments, there's nobody there. There's only the music."

[@hammer44head]

The Warlocks Phil is speaking of most likely on the 45 was and became ZZ Top who had recorded a single around that time as the Warlocks. I don't think it was the Velvet Underground (Warlocks) whom hadn't recorded yet and wouldn't have had a record on the west coast anyway if they had.

[@lilacrain3283]

Interesting! It had always puzzled me when I heard stories about them changing their name since the Velvet Underground never put out an album as the Warlocks, as you said

[@lestergreen9524]

Great interview, thanks! Just saw Philand the Terrapin Family Band in Minnesota and it was great!

[@jacksprat3009]

Creating community...Joseph Campbell, the late mythologist who turned on so many people through his interviews with David Moyers and books, after attending a Grateful Dead concert, said, "This is a wonderful fervent loss of self in the larger self of a homogeneous community. This is what it is all about !" It's just beginning to dawn on the general populace that "our" strength doesn't come from military might or economic superiority. It's our "cohesion" that creates real strength. The Grateful Dead created cohesion among people living or trying out an alternative lifestyle to the morass of greed, fear and ignorance. Thank goodness they knew to record their music. "The first days are the hardest days, don't you worry any more..."

[@docholidays1374]

hey phil, as you know it worked. thanks!!

[@arbogash1852]

He's talking about audio on the radio from a NY symphony playing Brahms #1 influencing him as a child. Phil's bass, much like JPJ's on the early Zep albums, was a melodic thing that always drew attention away from whatever thoughts were fluttering through my head.

[@gaylelau001]

So True, Phil ! I felt that from the very first shows I attended. ...To find out now, that was their intention ? That's why they are such a gift...