Philco Predicta Pedestal Repair Final

Fixing Vertical circuit and testing

[@JerryEricsson]

I have been playing with electronics since I came home from Nam in 1971; Before that, I did tube replacements for my relatives in town, I used to go out to the local dump ground with a buddy, he would dig for copper, I would grab all the tubes I could find. When a TV was on the fritz, my relatives would call me first, I would arrive with my box filled with egg cartons which protected my tubes, I had the numbers on the cartons, this was before Styrofoam was a thing. A quick look at what the TV was doing, check the tube layout on the inside, find a matching tube and swap, if the first one didn't work, try another. Usually I could fix the set in no time, the lady of the house would invite me to stay for a meal, and I would consider myself well paid. Folks still remember me for that, now days they call me when their PC's are acting strange, and yes, I have learned about PC'S and continue my fixes, usually for a beer, or shot of whiskey for my time. Cool video, shows me where I should have gone if I had kept up my TV Repair, when tubes were on their way out, I had obtained a full service case filled with tubes, had a couple of tube testers and some old military test gear that I picked up during my 8 years in the Army. I gave it all to a local TV Repair guy, wish I had kept it now, poor fellow found out about a year later he had cancer and was gone a few weeks later.

[@edwardallan197]

I also had great success that way back in the day. Back then, the soldered in components were younger as we were. And when a problem occurred, it was often a tube. I was batting better than 50/50 with also fixing a few other easy noticeable things. It was fun wasn't it?

[@MichaelSmith-xm7ll]

As a 70s Tv engineer here in the UK it takes me back seeing guys like you still able to get these old TV equipment brought back to life watched all videos on the Pedestal TV great videos will start following your channel.

[@daverowley2013]

It’s nice to see these old sets given a new lease of life and considering their age they go really well. Today’s flatscreen jobs are already hitting the refuse tips in our area. I was given a 1992 Sony 51cm Trinitron TV by a mate and I’m hanging onto it for as long as I can

[@nakyer]

Isn't that expression "lease ON life"?

[@dallasdorrington7449]

Wow! Great job getting the old girl going again. I didn't know there was anyone left that knows how to fix something this old. In 1958-59 when this TV was made it was sort of space type looking which would of been done because of USA's space race. Great too see it working again.

[@wurlitzergroup]

Your hilarious comments are almost as good as your technical expertise!

[@markvarallod.o.1471]

Enjoyable and informative. I also like your observations about what the hell is on TV these days.

[@maverickdallas1004]

Mark Varallo D.O. ...There was nothing more enjoyable than the Beverly Hillbillies, Green Acres, I Love Lucy, Gunsmoke, Bonanza and all those good old wonderful classics with the family gathered in front of a black & white vacuum tube VHF-only television set with rabbit ears! It's great to see these old sets saved from the dump and brought back to life. A real blast from the past...when a buck was still silver and the country was strong!

[@nakyer]

@@maverickdallas1004 Oh, come on! The UHF stations, when they came along, weren't bad! With repeats, we could get a lot of the stuff we loved all over again!

[@MrUbiquitousTech]

Nicely done! Just finished this series, enjoyed it very much! That Predica took some patience! You know, I ditched cable a little over 10 years ago. Don't miss it a bit. When I am exposed to modern shows: traveling, visiting people, or in these vids I'm amazed at just how far TV has degraded. I guess it shouldn't surprise me since society had degraded as well. 21:29 I believe was The Fugitive with David Jensen. _That_ was a great show!

[@TheOnGridHomestead1]

Nice channel. I really enjoyed your Philco Predicta Pedestal repair videos. I'm glad there's still people like you out there keeping the old electronics alive. I'm looking forward to seeing how the cataract removal on your Sylvania table top TV goes.

[@keithperry8098]

Nice repair. You seem to be very skillful in this field. Love the old television. Good job.

[@thearchitect4726]

thats majic seeing the old phhilco come back to life like that

[@c.brionkidder9232]

I'm very grateful for all the time and energy you put into these videos!

[@warmsteamingpile]

Impressive series. Personally I wouldn't have touched anything that old but I'm glad that there are still people who will and will share their experiences with the rest of us.

[@paulehd]

I just found this series. I always had a fascination of looking at circuits as a kid I wish I took it further. I found this fascinating, you know so much off the top of your head

[@clydedenby1436]

Stunning...it's really that simple. Money well spent on repairs.

[@rustymotor]

Love your logical approach to electronics, I have worked in the electronics industry for 30 years plus but do not have your skill level with television. Some people are naturally talented in all things electronic but I am somewhat lacking so thats why I love to watch real experts undertaking these complex electronic repar jobs!

[@ScottTV-yq2wu]

Fantastic job and result. I knew you would eventually get to that vertical k network. Almost a given on that chassis. That guy should be pleased. Looks like the CRT is pretty strong, should last for a while now.

[@johnvaldez8830]

Wow, what a great project! I've never seen the inside of the Predicta and it looked like a nightmare to work on. So glad you provided this video, the step by step and I really like your references to K network performance, service pages & alternatives tips as well. Job really well done as shown on the screen. Learned a lot and subscribed!

[@katlynlykstad5810]

I like it how I love Lucy was on a channel so when he turned to it she came up. It’s like the good old days where I’m sure she was played quite a bit on that tv in the past ☺️

[@alexdeadpool2774]

This all proves that what goes on in the back of a TV is often much more interesting that what comes out of the front. An absolute miracle what you've done with this one. The black level on most monochrome sets was awful, before gated AGC came along, but this one seems particularly bad in that bright parts of the picture darken the content to the left and right. Possibly AGC action is too fast? I used to fix a few TVs when I was a teenager, though maybe I was a little too young to really get the hang of valves (as well called them in the UK). I hope the owner of this set appreciated what you did.

[@pleasecho2]

I've seen all the videos for this project. Nice going. Your patience level definitely exceeds mine Using vintage TV to test with was a nice touch. Who knows that set might have received the same Lucy show 55 years ago

[@RODALCO2007]

Soak-testing is the key to a happy customer at the end. Often sets get returned to quickly. After a few long hot runs sometimes components drift and may take other aged components out of whack a bit.

[@AMStationEngineer]

Great effort, a very stable picture, not an easy result from what I understand, as these Predictas are "contrary" to say the least. My great uncle, who owned a Philco dealership from '34 until the Ford buyout, swore that Predictas and Philco appliances are what took the company under.

[@compositeguy4696]

I can't believe how much garbage there is on the modern broadcast these days, it's all commercials 70% or the time. just useless fake crap, i really do miss the old days.

[@aussiefurbymogwaifan6621]

I feel so sorry for them that they have to watch that to test out the TV

[@ldchappell1]

You definitely did an A+ job on that set. It looks totally restored. I hope the guy gave you a bonus.

[@justsumguy2u]

That turned out nice, well done. I don't know what transvaginal mesh is, but I think I'll skip lunch now.

[@dcfuksurmom]

lol

[@dirkdiggler9379]

It’s kinda like transbutthole mesh

[@8080pc]

Love your videos I had to subscribe. Used to have a 1962 23" Sylvania B&W i rebuilt in college. Let my last TV go in 2009 from TV changes by FCC and my lost love for the programming. Good job will watch many more :)

[@campbellmorrison8540]

What a neat TV, Ive never seen anything like it, very Jetsons. You were spot on about charging 20hrs before you even start.

[@IcelanderUSer]

Back in 1989 I was a freshman at NYU and there was a big guy in the basement, deep down, third ave north dorm, who was creating schematics for some sort of electronic project. I’ve never forgotten how complicated this kind of stuff seems to be. Watching this though makes the process seem logical and surmountable. Like mine exploring. Would the shoot be similar to something on the board? Resistor perhaps. Switch? Ok, that’s it. Folks. Fur dem deutcshe volke.

[@pomietlo24]

sorry if i said anything negative your are a very smart guy ...love your approach to fixing these old tvs ...you don t give up...keep these videos coming.

[@nunyabizness199]

Great videos, really enjoyed watching them...

[@BretFrohwein]

been watching your vids for a little bit. it wasn't until I watched this series, then looked over at the open chassis of this Philco Town & Country TV I have on the bench when I realized.. "Dear god, I have a predicta in a different package.. "

[@shango066]

+Bret Frohwein The issues and solutions are all the same

[@johnchildress6717]

The B+ you to Bret was cool.

[@gerrettmcqueen7001]

Awesome tv that is very stylish. It’s cool to see how well you got it working you’re very talented

[@wilstjb3122]

I remember these shitty TV's when I was a kid. Over priced then, and now. They never did look very good, just cute sitting on the floor. shango066's effort has produced the best picture I've ever seen on one of these things. Commendable effort.

[@Maxxarcade]

That was one heck of a project!

[@stevenking2980]

Hey maxx! Order a new test/bench speaker yet? Poor eminence...

[@lucianopep]

Che spettacolo!! Sei un grande!!😊😊😊

[@Captain_Char]

I do like the unique designs of these older TV's though

[@gustavefrankfurter6462]

It seemed so right to see I Love Lucy playing on that vintage set. I had a working 1951 Halicrafter TV that I hooked to a VCR and played shows from that era on it. Watching the crap that passes for entertainment today on a 50's TV seems VERY wrong. Maybe that's why the set stopped working!

[@davidjames666]

Great job. Why does the sound buzz on bright pictures? Can a filter be added to stop it? Was that par with televisions of that era?

[@theoldbigmoose]

First fix I've seen where everything is squeeky clean! 🙃

[@cletusspuckler2243]

This tv gives a pretty good picture for its age , the picture is really neat and clear .

[@lacey397]

very nice work ...i uses to work on tv in the late 80 & the late 90s ...

[@Pwaak]

A job very well done!

[@quantumleap359]

These predica TVs were a lot like the Fada catilin radio sets of the thirties. Fancy cabinet, pretty neat outside appearances, but a meh chassis inside. All show, but not a lot of go.

[@TonyFleetwood]

so awesome! i hope i can fix derelict pieces as well as you one day!

[@atarian345]

I wish I had this kind of technical knowledge.

[@gtb81.]

i would love to watch I love lucy on an old tv like this

[@johnpurcell8419]

Great repair videos

[@robcemento9605]

Great Work!!!!!

[@The90sGamingGuy]

This TV seems to like the old programs. I visit Carlsbad, California once a year. Hang around Hollywood but passed by LA never stayed there for long. Very nice state you live in just very expensive to live in.

[@onionman79]

Great job. Thanks for sharing

[@sleora]

That's some pretty good image you got at the end !

[@tinicum54]

AT 20:15, the clip from "Murder, She Wrote" Made it all worthwhile, lol. Great vids sir, new sub, been watching them for days now.

[@balthromaw6305]

Ok the doll thing... not sure what that was about but when it started smoking I almost spit up the dinner I was eating I laughed so hard

[@thezombiesarecoming7639]

People don't understand that the cost repair jobs aren't based on cost of components and a general labor price. You're also paying for the years and years of experience that's value can't be measured...

[@yupimbackk]

You"re one smart cat.

[@Farmradio]

A lot of great info in this one. The vertical & those K networks seem to be the Achilles heel of these era Philcos. Vertical always unstable for as long as I can remember. Town & Countys, etc. I like how the affiliates there leave the national feed logo (aka "bug") in the corner. Here the plaster their own custom local logo over them. ie Antenna TV, This TV, MeTV etc. We lost an RTV affiliate this area. Baby seems a bit fidgety.

[@jayster.k.wiseguy]

this TV looks great, shaman

[@kraig8812]

I love Philco Predicta TVs.

[@jayster.k.wiseguy]

yay...what a guy~ for me a nightmarish blend of applications and component values, have abandoned ship on things that I now regret~ your knowledge reminds me of a Heathkit 1973 darned thing never would perform as scheduled~

[@markmarkofkane8167]

Any text causes the buzzing. Maybe text you cannot see. Excellent job getting it to work great!

[@Synthematix]

you must have patience of a saint, that looks a right royal pain #

[@DavidCaldwell1]

superb work

[@videolabguy]

Great job!

[@douro20]

If you're going to use ceramic capacitors in those couplates they should be either C0G/NP0 or U2J.

[@Odessia-ij5ys]

Came out good

[@user-cm4ym3ei3u]

عاشت الايادي

[@matabdhillon3597]

Good job

[@RonLaws]

Could the buzzing on modern programming (And the receiver menu display) be something related to the NTSC Color burst?

[@ratbag359]

very nice :) good job.

[@69Dartman]

I seem to remember some TVs had a buzz controll adjustment on the chassis. Not that it does any good at this late date but I remember being able to adjust out the buzz when text or screen crawls were causing issues with the audio.

[@Silvertone58]

What was Philco thinking when they used those modular k networks? Certainly werent thinking of the service tech.

[@AiOinc1]

We don't seem to have a local electronics store anymore, any recommendations?

[@Authoratah]

Dr. Phil on Dr. Philco

[@kirbyyasha]

12:05, I realized Rock Steady is much better at 1.25 Speed!

[@Idelia412]

It was amazing the video's to fix this set. So how many hours did you have to put in to fix this set and what was the cost to fix the owners TV?

[@davewm9589]

looks good.

[@Bill23799]

It would be cool if you had an old TV like this to run old TV shows like " Space Patrol " and " The Honeymooners ". Leave it playing old shows like this when you have a party.

[@stevenking2980]

They make a wire wrapping / unwrapping tool. It works great. Mouser.

[@Artcurus]

shango-question. Considering the PITA these sets are, wouldn't replacing ALL the tube sockets make sense considering where this set is located?

[@shango066]

+Artcurus Yes if restorer is also the owner

[@p.thadeushornswoggler4987]

lol. bruce jenner in murder she wrote 20:30. How timely. Which bathroom should I use? :-/

[@Odessia-ij5ys]

Becaming rare tv repair old school

[@loveaodai100]

In theory I should not like this because people like you who can make sense of a mess of parts and wires, like people who snowboard down mountaintops and like concert pianists all give me inferiority complex. But in fact I love this!

[@jasonthewiczman5442]

Awesome Job Bro... Antenna TV Never looked better... Why pay money out to Have TV when OTA Is Free

[@stevenking2980]

Shango, Did the sound improve with the cabinet together? Where did the term "couplet" come from? Great video, glad to see it run. Bet your friend is gonna be thrilled! Thanks! Steven

[@AMStationEngineer]

Steven King Steven, from the info which I've been able to gather over the years, "couplates" were developed for three main reasons, first to allow manufacturers to "begin going vertical" in the design and construction of PCB based electronics for purposes of capitalizing on unused space(s) within the radios and television sets being produced at the time. Secondarily, couplates were "predesigned sub-circuits", which allowed the production staff to build more product with less effort, at a reasonable cost (couplates were fairly inexpensive at the time). Finally, some couplates were designed with "X, the unknown factor" in-mind. GE and Admiral were "infamous" for requiring that certain "proprietary" replacement couplates be purchased from them. Most of the time, these components were situated in the IF or Chroma sections of television sets. They were fairly free with the schematics of the couplates used in the manufacture of radios. You may find this to be of interest: pacifictv.ca/schematics/centralabcouplates.pdf

[@craignehring]

As a kid, I built a Sears Edukit clock radio, an all American five, it had one of these couplates in it. It was somewhat disappointing build as I had it together in a few hours. I had hoped for something more like a Heath or Knight Kit. I sure wish I had all of my as found radios that I had back then. I would spend hours de soldering scrap radios if I couldn't fix them. I never really had access to test equipment but for the Olsen VOM.

[@axelthefoxytechworld8024]

i have a quesion i dont have 1500pf 2200pf but i do have a .0015uf an a .0039 for the 2200pf will this work

[@analogrevenge5639]

Interesting about the sound on modern programming, I can see the on screen displays and programming of digital origin seem to be causing the buzz. What do you(s) think that is? Hard edges, higher brightness? Good video! But I can't help myself with the baby... can I say Smerdley's Seahorse (2009)?

[@OlegKostoglatov]

AnalogRevenge Text seems to cause a buzz on our TV as well, which is a later model CRT set from around 2005, but more so on my older TVs from the 1970s and earlier. Predictas have a buzz control pot on the chassis someplace like many TVs from that era have, but often you can get rid of most of it by re-aligning the IF first, it's just the nature of using intercarrier sound.

[@dondesnoo1771]

There was a color predicta 25 in. w rca chassis in 1980s don't remember if rca made it was pricy had pix of it when we had shop also had ad for 7in Motorola vt7 . remember a predicta with a vdr .resistor in vertical.we couldn't get.supplyed bias -we added a -supply from filament circuit .

[@melbias5046]

i bet the owner is happy.

[@FlatBroke612]

Why was the 0.0015 disc drifting due to temp an issue, but not an issue when you used discs to rebuild K4 which was even closer to the hot tube

[@jerrycarriera8648]

I liked that doll peeing yellow smoke between it's leg. Damned near had me peeing in my pants!!

[@FYJ2972]

Paul's TV in La Habra is out of business.

[@morrismckinnon6047]

I have a tube Tv and the audio started sounded like that recently, like a Dr Who Dalek. I got it repaired and the guy said it was something to do with the RF. I can't remember exactly what he said as I don't know anything about electrics. It only did it when something white would show up on the screen.

[@douro20]

That .0015 capacitor says it's rated for 1600 working volts.

[@MrLeejan]

there seems to be video getting into the audio in high contrast pictures

[@AgentPepsi1]

Just out of curiosity, it is just because I love the look of these antique TVs, especially this one... where do you find vacuum tubes nowadays? Sorry for the stupid question.

[@compositeguy4696]

+AgentPepsi1 They sell tons of tubes on Ebay, you can buy lot's of new old stock tubes.

[@AgentPepsi1]

+Composite guy I never thought of that.

[@GAIUSJAKE]

Not a dumb question at all. Try ebay.

[@jayster.k.wiseguy]

oscillator loop, why such tiny capacitances?

[@jimmyliveshere]

Great job ...I have to admire your work... I wish I had your patience but I don't! Question this was sold as refurbished and working ...you proved it was never refurbished!...Did the owner who paid 1000 bucks for this get any money back from the con artist who sold it to him! ...I'm guessing not.

[@iiiiii1449]

The observation you make at 28:00 is really interesting. It took me quite a few moments to understand what was being said on the modern program.

[@jesusgarcia2203]

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[@Christopher-re2hl]

I wonder if a filter can be used to separate the high voltage pulses from the DC to protect the meter. Maybe take an old flyback with a shorted secondary and remove the secondary winding and use the primary to choke the pulses and pass the DC and put a 10uf 450volt across the meter. Maybe a high voltage resistor that can withstand 6000 volts or several resistors in series with a capacitor across the meter