How to Make Sterilized OAT Grain Jars for Mushroom Growing

[@shawnmartin8960]

I've watched a ton of videos on fungal cultivation and have to say your's are among the best in terms of quality, information, and ease of comprehension. Thank You Sir!!!

[@planbnewssource8259]

I agree.the broke boi tek worked so good my first round...nowI'm getting all kinds of contamination

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​@@planbnewssource8259that sucks lol no contam for me

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[@kutdem6254]

Philly you are the man bro, I watch many videos browse the forums for hours but you just make it too simple to understand everything. Much love

[@PhillyGoldenTeacher]

Glad to help

[@GodisGreat...89]

@@PhillyGoldenTeacher for how long to sterilize grains after it has reached 15 psi

[@lordassasen]

@@GodisGreat...89 he says it in the video. 90 minutes

[@kerplop2263]

laying the jars sideways on top of the others is something I never thought about myself. you just increased my capacity from 7 to 10!!! thanks!

[@tprescott3584]

Good video. I use rye normally but I am going to try oats. Oats are about half the cost of rye grain. I also actually pressure can my grain in my 30 qt pressure canner and keep the sealed jar on the shelf. I do this so that I have sterile grain for grain to grain expansion or to innoculate a single jar from agar plates. The way to prevent contamination when the vacuum is released is to cover the jar with a few layers of a tight weave cotton cloth that has been saturated with 70% rubbing alcohol and open in a still air box. The canning process allows me to sterilize and seal 14 qts at a time. The sealed jars will stay sterile as long as the seals remain intact.

[@brent5920]

I just started to get into this hobby a few months ago, the information in your videos has been invaluable to help me get going with this. Just did my first spores, to grain oats to bulk this week, your videos are what got me there thank you so much for doing this for us!

[@dylanturley1736]

Something that I’ve noticed about mushroom growing is that the equipment is far less expensive to obtain and easier to use than most weed growing equipment which allows mindful and cautious people to become less conspicuous and more discreet.

[@RollinDoughPizza]

Weed stuff is pretty cheap. It's when you want to automate it becomes more expensive. But 1 grow producing 9+ oz pays for itself.

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All you need to grow some weed is a seed and the ground

[@johnconti1329]

​@@user-pt1kj5uw3bYou get his point though. Its alot less conspicuous buying a $100 pressure cooker and some totes than it is buying a $1,000 grow light and a tent.

[@magnumxlpi]

Facepalm. Seriously go outside. My God bro..

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Same with fungi, all you need is spores and poop.​@user-pt1kj5uw3b

[@cliffp73]

What a great way to see that the grain is at the moisture content that you want. I like little test like that!

[@gratefulrambler8428]

Thanks for easy prep oats! One tip I use for non modified lids is to lay a piece of masking tape across then I have a one piece lid when unscrewing for easier inoculation in sab.

[@billybob1052]

Grateful

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The new into is amazing, you're videos just keep getting better

[@PhillyGoldenTeacher]

Glad you think so!

[@dailey_adventure2678]

My boiiii

[@dohthdo57]

Drying oats is much easier using a hanging herb drying rack. Trust me and save yourselves the hassle of drying oats this way. Also a good way to tell if your oats are dry enough is to load half a jar and put the lid onand swirl your oats around. If you notice oats sticking to the sides or any moisture on the inside of the jar there to wet. You don’t want to smell the wet spot lol. Great videos philly . Keep it up my friend.

[@MostWantedOHA]

ya , 108 comments , an im not worthy of all that , boil 1 gallon h2o , add 2 tbls gypsum an 2 cups of liquid coffee . add atleast 8 cups dry oat grains , rinse 1 st if they need it , biol on low for 25 mins take or give a few , strain , lay out to dry sum , till cool , fill jars , no more than 2/3 ds w/ preped lidz cover w/ foil p/c @ 15 psi for 120 mins ... let cool till you can remove from p/cooker , shake many x's to even them out . now nocc those bittcchhis up . watch the majic happen ... editors note : only use trusted mss or your best agar . you will own this tek !!! THANKS PGT !!! you have my support cause you are the BAUM !!!

[@glengass8517]

I love the intro, feels like I’m watching pbs or a show on a learning network haha

[@joeisabella6811]

Perfect timing. Just had a 50 pound sack given to me the other day. Thanks for the info brother!! ✌🤟🙂🍄

[@mikenolan5905]

This dude is a legend. Watching his videos over and over again as a beginner trying to learn as much as humanely possible! Have my first broke boi going right now, and in a few paychecks I want to get a pressure cooker and step my game up! Thanks PGT

[@medman6649]

These have been so helpful. I started out with grow bags and didn't have much success. Then, watched some of your videos on grain jars and boom, success! Good lesson that you don't have to spend a bunch of $$$ on all-one-grow bags and simpler is better (and cheaper).

[@MattRoadhouse]

Hull-on Oats is the best hands down! Almost no starch or surface food for bacteria. Myc can run into the grain easily. This is how you create a environment that stacks the scales vs contam and pro-mush

[@earthchild5346]

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[@jkmott59]

Would love to see an oats vs rye side by side comparison.

[@austinthomas2030]

Okay “pineapple apple” ppap is still my all time favorite intro but this style does look very professional to me

[@thecommonsenseconservative5576]

If einstein wrote his equations in dirt they would still be valid.... get what im saying

[@allmoneyin1182]

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[@theflamingpearl]

I love that intro too! Sometimes I just find it and watch it a few times in a row😂😂😂

[@thelastrebelshow1627]

@@theflamingpearl That’s so sad. 😹

[@kev_6422]

@@thecommonsenseconservative5576 You are saying that nobody his intro it would still be a good information source??

[@Allyourbase1990]

I started growing about a year ago, and rye berries is the only one I’ve used so far. It’s my go to !

[@joshturner9766]

I was doing great for a year moved house and now all my rye fails but I use the same methods lol

[@Paul4Krista20]

@@joshturner9766are you thinking fails are due to possibly mold contaminants (ie.black mold) in your new home? Swim lives in a home with a bit of a black mold problem in floorboards in some areas and concerned this could cause contam issues even if only using hood tek method.

[@twistedmind4228]

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[@yourleafyourlife5734]

Thanks for this most excellent video PGT! I used your video to make some jars three days ago. Four of them got agar and are RIPPING.. the fifth jar got some MSS and to my amazement it has growth already! Fastest growth and more surface area than corn. I also find that the cakes that are made with corn fall apart way too easily compared with smaller grains. Once again, thank you!!

[@RollinDoughPizza]

Well man, got a subscriber here. I appreciate how clear you were and also explained everything and stressed safety on the pressure cooker. Thanks man! My future Lions Mane appreciates you.

[@PhillyGoldenTeacher]

Glad I could be of help 🙏🍄

[@cp0cp927]

I wish I watched this episode before I started my first inoculation last week. So many good small details like the napkin test I've never come across beforw. Although I think the way I did it will work out. It's so exciting to see the mycellium beginning to grow on jars made. I'm super excited to move on to the next step and finally see my first mushroom grow after a month of studying all this information. Thanks for another great video!

[@lawrenceodom8097]

Picked up this adjustable screen at lowes. It's 18 x 20-37 inches and fits over my kitchen sink perfectly, $10 and some change!

[@BisTLeiS]

Thank you PGT for sharing the knowledge Mush love 🍄💗😘

[@sarahhbell]

PGT MY HOMIE!!! followed your instructions to a T and have mycelium showing up in my jars today! I SQUELED so hard. Thank you!

[@MikeM-qy9zz]

Thank you for keeping your videos short and comprehensive. You have a special ability to teach

[@nerdoutreachprogram5358]

I’m using half pint jars because that’s all that will fit in my tiny pressure cooker. It also only goes to 11.6 psi so I pressure cook them for 4 hours.

[@AcrylicGoblin]

You are putting out such high quality videos. Thank you.

[@PhillyGoldenTeacher]

Glad you like them!

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[@JB-sv5pr]

7am is when I wake up 10 hours to recharge before class !

[@charlieday5437]

I’ve been just using brown rice, but ended up seeing the exact bag you have at tractor supply so I tried it. My jars came out looking a little wet with the oats compared to the brown rice. I’m making a few more tonight and going to let them dry out more to see if that helps out.

[@ManDogBearPig]

did u dry test? how long did u dry? did they work ok

[@charlieday5437]

@@ManDogBearPig I didn’t dry long enough that round, I’ve since gotten my routine packed down with the oats

[@napps2774]

hell yeah another video!!

[@marinevans7080]

I appreciate you so much for sharing all this knowledge🙏🏼 The most insightful YT channel on this subject that I’ve found, thank you😊

[@Rolandfart]

I love the background music so much. Fits the video perfectly.

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We love you Philly teacher

[@PhillyGoldenTeacher]

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[@StarkEnt86]

I'm ready for this wild rye(d)!

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[@SomeJustice19k]

@@anonomouse1215 lame.

[@marcelbeaudoin4304]

thank you very much. i have a question just to make sure : you boiled your pressure cooker at hi heat for 15 minutes then you added a weight to your boiler in order to regulate the pressure at 15 psi with the heat still at hi for another 15 minutes and then you lower the heat to medium -high for another 90 minutes. did i understand correctly? thank you

[@PhillyGoldenTeacher]

Yes that's right

[@chrisbammer4946]

2:25 I use a steel mesh window screen as both a strainer and a flat surface, picked it up at the hardware store for only 5 or 10 bucks

[@andreasimpson1018]

This is the best tutorial I’ve found on prepping your jars. You answered so many questions I had. Thank you!

[@PhillyGoldenTeacher]

I'm glad the video was able to provide useful info for you! Wish you the best on your journey! 😁🍄

[@bbill9806]

So I just did my first own 7 grain jars and so far 7/7 are all white. Ty for this video.

[@josephflowers2926]

I followed this tek and my jars ended up with bacterial contam. A few things I would do differently: Ensure the grains are dry enough! I think I had too much moisture still when I jarred them. Also, I would presoak the grains for about 24 hours in order to allow any endospores that may be able to survive the PC time to germinate before sterilization. Also would probably let cook just a bit longer and make SURE it’s not below 15 psi. I’m pretty sure my PC was at 15 psi the whole time though. Also the contam could have something to do with how close I had my jars next to my air vent and I think they got a little warm and the fluctuations stressed the mycelium and weakened them. All in all, MY mistakes!! PGT you’re the man!! Love your videos!!

[@PhillyGoldenTeacher]

We all make mistakes. It's a learning process, and learning can be fun! Keep up the work, you'll get better and better. Good luck on your journey! 😁

[@cornflakez1]

Thaks PGT great video! You should do a video on grain to grain transfers that'd be informative.

[@rickmorgan8895]

Can you do a mushroom tincture video and or exstract? Your videos are really informative thanks for your hard work

[@smokey2k921]

Yo have definitely started a new hobby for me. Thank you ! Cant wait to begin cooking mushrooms and creating new recipes for my family.

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You got a video for all my questions. You are the godfather of mushrooms 🍄 😂 . Cheers ☮️

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[@belenzucchini]

Great video! I've always used the no soak no simmer technique with oats, but I was thinking of soaking the grain to activate the endospores. In that case, would the cooking time be the same? Thanks :)

[@PatchCornAdams723]

PGT just seems like a nice fella based on how he talks and how his hands look.

[@jordruss8621]

What a way to judge a book by its "essense"

[@PatchCornAdams723]

@@jordruss8621 Totally natural to judge anything and everything, friend. Everybody does it.

[@steveo6034]

What's better, 90 or 120 minutes for sterilizing whole oats? Great tutorials sir!

[@douglundy5755]

Ive just simmered them in the skillet to keep frying off the water..till dry enough. Small amounts only, A heat gun might also work for this or blow dryer

[@mikenakamura3633]

out of curiosity, what is the best way to store these (if not using right away) and how long do they typically last?

[@zkai888]

Since there fully sterilized and should be sealed afterwards they should theoretically last a few months to a few years is my guess

[@ConcreteMars]

@@zkai888 They shouldn't be sealed afterwards? The lid is not fully on and in fact it's flipped upside down to allow fresh air exchange.

[@JayVonShroom]

I’ve read once sterile they can be sealed and stored in fridge for a few months and if you need longer they can be frozen! Is that correct?

[@brianlurcott5583]

Just ordered my first pressure cooker! Thanks PGT! And thanks cyber Monday!

[@PhillyGoldenTeacher]

😁🍄

[@rightnearthebeach]

You are truly goated

[@TheHouseofScott]

I do t even really plan to grow my own tbh! I'm just very interested in the process and like your videos

[@PhillyGoldenTeacher]

Go for it!

[@jadedsoulfire]

Honestly I never expected to grow them either... But I gave it a shot, and the process is so therapudic and the rewards are beyond amazing 😊💞

[@mmpatriot2170]

Another great video. I’ve got grain jars and a few jelly jars for agar work in the pressure cooker right now! Thanks PGT! 👍

[@PhillyGoldenTeacher]

That's awesome! 😁

[@iangato3473]

Yay! Just the video I asked for. Straight to the point quick and easy. Great job as always ✌

[@normalsaline8913]

I just did the wild bird seed tek. What a pain in the ass to prepare. I'll have to give oats a go.

[@toddwmac]

Thanks PGT. Was wondering how you manage the lids after inoculation. Do you keep the they tight, loosen them a bit or change them out in some FAE ported lids? thx

[@jeffbreezy7151]

Doing this tek as we speak!!! Pressure cookers save lives!

[@BallisticAdventure]

just chillin, waiting for the vid to start Sensei. Lets get it!

[@jonathanyoung2588]

I got way too much condensation in mine, even with the tops wrapped in foil. I used popcorn on that run; do you think I didn't let it dry long enough before filling the jars? The moisture let foreign mold grow, so I'm not sure.

[@stucknreality]

Reminder set! Ready for some school this morning!

[@jiyadachorona8684]

But if you dont have made holes on the lid how would you inject your spore syringe:0?

[@Speedoflynn]

For those wanting the recipe Oats prep 30 minute boil Dry until no pools form on a tissue or toilet paper Load up jars Pressure cook at 15 psi for 90 minutes

[@Speedoflynn]

Although I found this recipe only works for me 50% of the time (based on 8 bags). I prefer a no soak no boil method with about 1.16x as much water as oats. Have done 20 grain bags/jars with this method and have a 100% success rate so far. Easier prep and works better for me

[@RoCkShaDoWWaLkEr]

Hey PGT fellow veteran mycologist, you should check out popcorn (45-60 minutes hard boil, dry in strainer 15 minutes then PC 90 minutes), I used oats for a long time ;but found a lot of times shaking releases endospores trapped in the grain and/or is prone to bacteria (upping my oat PC time to 2 hours from 90 minutes helped ;but not very much). Since switching to popcorn I've had a 95% improvement and that's with a lot of varieties going (mostly albinos). I'm currently working with Yeti, AMVP, AMAK, WTAT, OG TAT, RStar Silverback TAT (my own silver/blue gilled albino isolate), Avery's Albino, Angkor WatTF (my own Cambodian isolation), Mexican, Brazilian, Thai and Malabar.

[@jodygarcia9892]

Have u thought about selling spores

[@andrewlee9210]

Hi, I’m very new to the world of home mycology. I haven’t tried growing anything myself yet but I plan to in the near future. Your videos are AMAZING and honestly way better than any other home mycology channels I’ve found so far. I was just wondering though... when you make grain jars... is there an advantage to using oats vs brown rice? I noticed you used brown rice in one of your other videos. What other grains can you use and what are the advantages/disadvantages to each one?

[@lordassasen]

You can use popcorn, millet, wild bird seed, brown rice, whole oats, and there's probably more. Popcorn is good because it's less prone to contamination, millet is good because it has more inoculation points, same with wild bird seed cuz thats where millet comes from basically. Brown rice is easy to obtain/make although kind of expensive, whole oats is dirt cheap and highly nutritious for mycelium.

[@DucktapeMycology]

Just went all in with your teks. This and cvg tonight. Thank you.

[@PhillyGoldenTeacher]

Best of luck, you got this!

[@Squancheeb]

I’ve been wondering if it’s possible to sterilize/pasteurize using a solar oven. Would be a cool alternative to my gas burner...

[@KUSELAKAAOS]

How soon should you inoculate the jars/how long are they good for after you are done with the sterilization? Mulch love and thanks for sharing all this knowledge!

[@chadmartin8254]

Could this same process be used for rye berries?

[@psilocybinstudios9281]

I'm subscribed now but ONLY because of your oven mitts. F$#@in' adorable.

[@strawmantee3085]

Love you mane

[@originaldranksta6740]

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU PGT! YOUR CONTENT IS TOP NOTCH AND I ALWAYS GET EXCITED TO WATCH THEM WHEN THEY DROP!

[@christianolmos1297]

Do I mix this with the same coco coir substrate in the brown rice video? A quick swap of this type of grain spawn and follow all the same steps? What’s the benefit to using this over rice? Thank you so much man!

[@buddysyst3m]

This is just another type of substrate with increased surface area. You could certainly try to mix it with coco, but these oats alone will do the job.

[@joedore77]

Love your videos! Just noticed you don't use any polyfill and punch a hole in the lid.... Do you keep the grain jar lids loose for air exchange? Never seen that done before but love the idea. Much quicker to set up... Thanks for your response!

[@PhillyGoldenTeacher]

Yeah I used an unmodified method in the video by flipping the lid and leaving the ring of the lid a quarter turn loose for exchange. There are a few videos that show the unmodified method for lids on the channel! 🙏

[@spyspy4236]

thanks for the content! do you ever plan on doing a millet grain lesson?

[@dukyben733]

Wbs tek will work for millet. It needs to have the hull on it but wbs is mainly millet

[@UrBrother_711]

Thank you so much for the video. I noticed you didn’t rinse or clean the grains first. Do you think the rinsing is totally unnecessary? Will it hurt if I rinsed them before boiling ?

[@PhillyGoldenTeacher]

It's not necessary, and you can rinse before without any problems 🙏

[@zacharyswain5473]

if you need to wait to inoc the jars after pressure cooking, can you put them in the fridge or something for a few days before doing so? how long can you wait

[@ematthews0483]

Honestly don't even bother with refrigerating them, if they're sterile they're sterile. I used grains after months of setting on the shelf. As long as you agar is clean and your technique is sterile they'll colonize fine. If you put them in the fridge you're just slowing any bacteria or mold from forming. Leaving them at room temp will save you a headache and wasted spawn. I also do g2g after agar. I just throw out jars that constamed before I add my spawn/myc. Hope that helps, good luck!

[@mikehunt4797]

Window screens with a fan supported up as to let air flow hit every side of the grain. I also dry my mushrooms this way.

[@antoniopatron9309]

Great video! Thank you PGT! Whats the reason on turning the lids upside down?

[@PhillyGoldenTeacher]

It's to allow gas exchange, I have a video recently out going over lid techniques

[@smokypotbear]

Hey really appreciate your videos! I'm about to start tomorrow and was curious you had alot of jars. How big of a tub are these going in once you mix it. Im going to be working with a 66 qt bin and im not to sure about the ratio for jars/bins.

[@cloudnine9100]

Hello from Bonnie Scotland did you soak thesegrains for 24 hours before you started the 15 min boil then dry out to then fill jars to sterilise for 90mins Thankyou

[@mikecurry6847]

Hey PGT, have you ever tried the no soak, no boil oat tek? Basically, you just put 4 parts oats, 3 parts water (by weight) in your jar or bag and throw it in the PC. I like using force hydration because I feel like there's a lot of lost nutrition in the water in the pot. With no soak, no boil, none of the nutrients get leeched out.

[@51MontyPython]

So what would be the purpose of soaking/boiling then, if it's not necessary and even potentially better?

[@xXMissBrainDeadXx]

@@51MontyPython pgt method (in my opinion) leads to less contamination

[@GunDogSlim]

Is there any benefits of using oats over brown rice? Just cheaper or better for mycelium?

[@MattRoadhouse]

sort comments to 'new' and have a look at my comment

[@lordassasen]

Where did you get your colander from

[@Jnaboh]

In the whole oats video, you did't soak the oats for 12-24 as some others suggest. Is the cooking process enough to hydrate the oats sufficiently? Thanks! John

[@POCKETGUN]

Great video man! And love the new intro :)

[@ponolovefarms3926]

Just changed to oats a week ago I’m loving them so far.

[@FireCrack83]

oats work grreat! and so easy to prepare!

[@PoppagoatEDM]

Ill try those next. I just had to use brown rice since I was out of rye berries.

[@jon3706]

@@PoppagoatEDM Do you recommend rye berries? Can you do broke boi tek with them?

[@PoppagoatEDM]

@@jon3706 ive tried rye berries, completed a couple jars of whole oats and just now PCd my first couple jars of corn. It all seems to work and honestly, from what I can tell, as long as its sterile it will work. Ive even seen people using wild bird seed. Dont be scared to try new things-to me thats the fun part. Edit: Sorry-i didnt address this part. While you can "possibly" get away without PCing (at times), I highly suggest getting one. Youll save your time AND resources in the end.

[@ajstreeservicepulley3174]

Much cheaper then brown rice trying whole oats today awesome vids

[@gjonesjr1]

Great video thank you why do you turn the lid upside down?

[@gabesmith7701]

dope vid and oven mitts 😂🍄🔥

[@ZepHoffman]

hi philly! great video, i just had one question, no soaking for 24hs needed? thanks

[@katclaus7425]

Hi, I'm getting ready to start.ive heard different things about what to use. Do you feel that whole oats are best, rice or rye. Thabk you so much!

[@franco634]

Just curious. Why not lay them out on paper towels after you have drained them. Wouldn't that help take water out quicker?

[@lescarr7156]

Who is this super smart and well spoken dude? "

[@jon-michaelmorrison3691]

Pgt, would it help to set up a fan and point the fan at the grains during the drying process? Or would that cause more contamination?

[@buttninjaflex]

You shouldn't be worried about contamination during the drying process because they still need to be sterilized in the pressure cooker. It's only after sterilization that you need to protect them from un-sterilization (contam).

[@SpaceAlmond]

What do you have under your metal tray inside the pressure cooker to keep the bottles up out of the water?

[@brandontackett8631]

Professor Philly how do I know when I'm ready to dunk after jars look fully colonize? I'm trying my first grow here.

[@Sasha8pancakes]

You don't dunk grain, or at least most people don't. You only dunk brf cakes

[@odellcivic]

Do you have to soak the grain before boiling and PCing? I read soak for 12to24 before boiling.🤷‍♂️