Episode

[@Quislvl]

how dare you rick roll us mid speech.

[@aarni4819]

17:02 laughed out loud when I heard that

[@filiporozovic8109]

He rick rolled us

[@emperor6712]

This is exactly what they meant, when they said ‘when the student is ready, the teacher will appear’. 💯

[@ericjackson-nq4hp]

Thank you, West. I hope the family is thriving there. Your presence online has positively impacted my life and you helped steer my very mental health is some real low spots in my life. You do make a difference. And probably profoundly so. I thought you should know. Gratitude is the Prince of the human emotions. That is what I have been told and it fits here. Thank you, sincerely. I wish you well. _Phaedrus_ hits hard. I love it. I will probably follow for as long as you continue to publish or my pulse runs its total course.

[@Over-Boy42]

I love philosophy so fucking much!

[@SoorajSubramaniam]

The Theory of Forms and the Theory of Innate Knowledge sounds strikingly similar to the concept of Maya/Illusion and the idea of Brahman/Absolute Consciousness, respectively, from Hindu philosophy. I wonder if Socrates/Plato were influenced/-by eastern philosophies.

[@jotheshdagrate3673]

17:14 man just rickrolled us from 2019

[@exotikwaffle4440]

he recorded this back in 2013 or smth i think

[@Dameino11]

This is the episode that got me hooked.

[@mylatahiri2572]

Leaving a youtube comment is my way of achieving immortality

[@unmeshl.6708]

Boundary dissolving experiences make us aware that the world around us is not the only thing, or is not simply as it appears. It might be that it is boundary dissolving experiences that lead an individual down the road of philosophy. The experiences are of differing level of intensity, but they all signify a break in one's original mode of thinking up till that point. Like stepping out of The Cave. Imo, society needs to provide many more opportunities for such breaks to occur for individuals, and then the society would grow great. You can't have producers, guardians, and rulers, that inevitably ends up in class struggle. Everyone of us in our own way must be philosopher kings, must be a combination of the three classes Plato spoke of.

[@PyroChimp75]

I'm honestly mind blown how the meaning of words like 'Aristocracy' mean something completely different back then as they do today considering they where the ones that invented it

[@rodrigodiazcasas384]

The culmination of his theory was "make philosophers kings". You can call it altruism (for they are supposed to have "higher intentions"), knoledge (for they are supposed to be the smartest), or whatever you want. But aswell as every politic theory (other than anarchism), its underlaying implication is the following: "give more power to me, or to the group i belong to". That can be applied to marxism and its "equality" implications, to liberalism and its "meritocracy" implications, absolutism and its religious implications. Everybody wants more for itself, and it is no coincidence (in my opinion) that Pluto wanted POWER TO PHILOSOPHERS. We can only superced our racial inherent tendence to conflict by first accepting our true nature. IDEALISTC view is precisely the opposit.

[@openscienceerichoeven4255]

but what is our true nature come and have a look at my philosophy / psychology database and maybe you will find a start there and answer greetings eric vanhoeven

[@pokerlogik6981]

Such a curious choice that you randomly added a southern drawl on the "random fact guy"

[@arvinsh1756]

Amazinggggg

[@projectmalus]

I think there are two avenues for 'realness" if the universe is two things: energy and movement. The world of forms describes how energy moves eg. a torus, and we engage with this energy movement to obtain a result. A result can be static, where it "dies" and goes back into the energy field, or engaged with further. What we call life is the interface between energy and movement and everything we do reflects this, especially our language of nouns and verbs.

[@pussypuffs]

i like the associations you make because "everything we do reflects [energy and matter]". i think its very true. and if youre still into that kind of understanding, id beg you to keep looking into how what we do is reflected everywhere... until theres nothing left to know. i wish i had a friend like you, i could tell you all about my black hole theories and you could share yours ^^ good luck in your travels

[@dfferentpoint]

tree is somthing that level up woodcuting if it is not leveling up woodcuting by cuting it it is not a tree

[@electrichris8177]

what

[@WildPeanuts]

gaming

[@ftrkngfspn]

37:51-41:53 Good lord. The knowledge this man possessed is what everyone needs to learn 38:29 💯 40:50-41:13 Aristotle predicted the fall of capitalism before capitalism existed

[@xamphor]

Plato

[@lucian1320]

Capitalism has been working in democracies, what Plato says is more like mercantilist monarchies than a liberal democracy.

[@iancrosby3444]

@@lucian1320 "Has been working"

[@Public-Enemy]

True

[@Philbert-s2c]

@@lucian1320 "working" for who, exactly?

[@shawnharley1114]

really missing the music break ups!

[@lucidboi5334]

The outro song is called Boss Wave

[@angery_lettuce]

17:03 goddammit

[@heart5929]

what the dog doin?

[@riccello]

Plato was the first to formulate the Simulation Theory when he said the world is not as it seems.

[@aocbbl]

He literally meant the perfect world of forms

[@emilysequeira9136]

The song is centipede by knife party

[@izhernandezz]

Anybody know where I can get a copy of the synopsis in the beginning?

[@felixlipski3956]

This is where all the trouble began... ~ Lenin

[@govindraghavan9493]

I take offense to you rick rolling me like that

[@esino6667]

When i took mushrooms, i saw everything around me with much more order and similarity, such as repeating patterns and forms interchanging much more fluidly.

[@aocbbl]

That's more Pythagorean hallucination isn't it

[@esino6667]

@@aocbbl possibly :D I could say I have an analytical mind, tending to abstract, to make sense of the bigger picture in general.

[@ozzy5146]

Timaeus IS central to Plato. Because any cosmology explains the big picture of any thinker.

[@judithchanutomo2157]

For me, Plato's idea of the perfect form of things in magical world somehow sounds very similar with the idea of signified by Saussure (?)

[@evo1ov3]

Plato is talking about objects of thought pretaining to geometry. That "magical world" your talking about. Is the reason Plato had a sign over the Academy that said "Let No One Enter Who Has Not Studied Geometry." So unless Sausser hasn't passed 3rd grade math. I'm gonna have to say No.

[@Philbert-s2c]

@@evo1ov3 Oh look, a troll...a troll.

[@evo1ov3]

And? Read Plato sometime and see what he has to say about politicians. Or for that matter Diogenes & Neitzsche about Plato. Trolling has its place. Especially nowadays when it comes to mediocre yt narratives.

[@Philbert-s2c]

@@evo1ov3 1. Go 2. Away

[@rhythm888]

erm is there still any way to get that synopsis on the timaeus?

[@enjoi4706]

17:00 lolol rick rolled

[@Willpower1997]

Great vid

[@KLam-xe5id]

15:03 note - discussion of beauty

[@384384384384]

" "I," was created by the thought of Gods and "Their," desire to allow all mortals to know that "They," are always with them: As humankind grows and seeks absolute independence from "Them," "They," will remain by their side, guiding them and directing them, in their growth to absolute "WISDOM," the way to "Their Essence" and the Elysium Fields. As you look out beyond the now, into the heavens, "I" will be there, guiding you and helping you know that "I," be visible or invisible, "My Essence," will guide you beyond all that is sensed in your reality. So, let it be now revealed to you that both "I" and "He," in mortal being, who speaks to you through the thoughts of children are but one. " Eleusis. Let The Light within you guide you to the Elysian Fields entrance; your inner beauty is expected. Seek me out: Amazon, Imagination is the way. Love is the ink; wisdom is the message.

[@Lis-oh1sq]

did he just rick roll us

[@ziggyzhang4156]

turns out tree is KZbin philosophy channel's best friend...I know you're way ahead the others'

[@elijaguy]

21:28 when you say True Reality, what do you mean by True?

[@WildPeanuts]

true in that sense means what it TRULY is. the nonbiased perspective and the essence that it holds

[@milhouse53]

I think the guardians ARE the rulers in your explanation but you confused them with the auxiliaries or the warriors

[@nnnnsaakadamanas218]

Are forms like an earlier idea of archetypes?

[@openscienceerichoeven4255]

nice of you to make this comparison between plato and jung I would like to invite you to take a look at my philosophy/psychology page

[@thearchive26788]

Bromigooooo!

[@thearchive26788]

Don't hurt me okay? 🤗

[@coffeeaddict9560]

17:00

[@christinemartin63]

Yeah ... sure ... ok. True creative geniuses live and work in the Platonic ideal. The rest of us? We live with unrelenting change in a tough, competitive world. This philosophy will not work here. Armchair daydreaming has its place ... but not in the daily life of an average person.

[@smatter022188]

Please play tool instead of dubstep at the end

[@olgarodriguez2873]

26:00

[@mattymccann]

The world of forms is real- take DMT and see for yourself. Plato, like all the other Greeks, took psychedelics, to assume this didn't influence their thought would be naive

[@mayagoldberg786]

36

[@tedpower7018]

31st

[@KhurshidAlam-go9qk]

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[@abrahamspies7611]

666th like.

[@rayneweber7636]

First

[@bijanshadnia3620]

Damn!

[@AnthonyJSA]

I was first

[@thearchive26788]

NdGT

[@evo1ov3]

Omfg. This is horrific. This guy has not read Plato. He has read other people's opinions about Plato who have not read Plato. Litteraly gut wrenchingly bad.

[@ericjackson-nq4hp]

I read Plato. I have been reading him for pleasure over 30 years. I know entire passages by rote. What's your f'kng problem exactly?

[@evo1ov3]

@@ericjackson-nq4hp 30 years. Me it's been 20. My "f'kng problem" really is misunderstanding Plato. Philosophy professors like the late Michael Sugrue study Republic thier entire lives. And upon thier last year to live. Try to do a 10 part series on Republic but only make it to Book 4. Moreover if you doubt the sincerity to my convictions? Google the preschool handout of the "Gender Unicorn." Then come back and tell me the severity of what it means to misunderstand Plato. Plato's philosophy is not a plaything for caprice attitudes. As the saying goes. To paraphrase. "Play with the Devil's Toys. You will be brought by Degrees of Understanding to Weild His Sword."

[@ericjackson-nq4hp]

You understand Plato @@evo1ov3 ? Great, let's open our OCT Greek editions and translate 376c, the last two paragraphs for me. You know Plato, lemme hear it straight from you?

[@anomitas]

​@@evo1ov3you sound schizophrenic

[@Philbert-s2c]

@@evo1ov3 Oh look, a troll, a troll.

[@harrybalzack4451]

45 min!!!?$?! You think I got some kind of Joe Rogan attention span.....

[@daviddawson1718]

If you can't follow 45 minutes of elementary philosophy, try "Dick and Jane at the seashore. "

[@samvandervelden8243]

Try watching acedemy of ideas

[@tetsuoyugen3702]

I personally love the long length. I feel like i won't miss out too much this way

[@zebradove4186]

19:45

[@AnthonyJSA]

First

[@enzofranco4634]

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[@enzofranco4634]

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