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[@patrickoduinn4787]

One of the best pod cast out there. Love it. 👏👏

[@christinemartin63]

What a clever fellow you are--to explain Hobbes so well. Nice work!

[@Ollliiv]

I have been a long time listener and wow has your show come in handy this semester with my political theory class!

[@eliy5550]

one of the best episodes :)

[@Over-Boy42]

I didn't know Hobbes helped design that famous cover of Leviathan, interesting.

[@francisabellana780]

Thank you :)

[@seanridlon3747]

“The Thomas Hobbes Nature Walk” lololol 😂

[@smtrm212]

your voice is changing!

[@DirtyBottomsPottery]

Mr. West, would you please do an episode for Clive Bell and his aesthetic theory? Possibly for more than just that one theory? Meme theory would also be interesting to delve into.

[@rodrigodiazcasas384]

Of course every human is selfish by nature! Who can think in other people problems when overwhelmed by their own? Who can help anyone when finding him or herself in a helpess situation? Who can talk about "the hunger of the world" when feeling hungry? Selfishness is not a moral concept, every creature aims to its own survival (and of their progeny, wich is the survival of its own genes). In humans, selfishness is the survival instinct mixed with the strange conscience that we have. The ego is precisely the shape it takes. It is not good or bad, it just the way we are: if we learn to cope with it, we can easely overcome the conflict with everyoe else that it implies.

[@justamoteofdust]

Then how and why does a mother/father value their child’s survival before their own? As evident in nature as it is with humans. And what do you think about the scientific evidence that is mostly opposite to your claims? www.google.com/amp/s/theconversation.com/amp/humans-arent-inherently-selfish-were-actually-hardwired-to-work-together-144145

[@rodrigodiazcasas384]

@@justamoteofdust does a mother or a father value any childrens life over their own? not, only their own children, the same way many creatures do in the rest of animal kingdom. The inhenerent uncouncious aim of any creature is to preserve their own genes, and THAT is precisely what is happening when a parent value their children survival over their own. THAT is our nature. It (fortunatelly) does not mean we cannot learn to modify our behaviour (even if it means going against our guts). This has got to be the aim for humans, to learn tu cope with our nature in order to achieve equilimbrium and harmony. But, unfortunatelly, the latest postmodern theories reject and denide our nature: thus, they put us one step further apart from understanding the problems of humanity.

[@kingmj87]

The Leviathan doesn't represent the king. The Leviathan represents the state. The king is just the head ("sovereign") of the Leviathan.

[@johnsilver5016]

UNDERSTANDING the logic of "making peace" with your neighbor -- to improve everyone's llife -- is limited to a tiny subset of humans, Implementing this "peace" process runs contrary to the nature of most people, whose childish nature is instinctively selfish and impulsive. A "Social Contract" is a ploy created by that "tiny subset of human" whose purpose is to inhibit man's selfish nature...thus. creating a civil and orderly society. The "children" must be "tricked" into cooperating FOR THEIR OWN GOOD. "Open up the hanger.. here comes the airplane". 👽

[@2002franc]

They aren't tricked, they are made complacent by the sovereign, the leader-the leviathan. Because otherwise sonner or later we would each a stalemate as described in the episode. And they are made to agree with the contract because that's how you ensure the self preservation of most people possible, which most would consider the best choice.

[@justamoteofdust]

But what about the scientific evidence that presents a compeletely opposite picture? www.google.com/amp/s/theconversation.com/amp/humans-arent-inherently-selfish-were-actually-hardwired-to-work-together-144145

[@johnsilver5016]

@@justamoteofdust The evidence you noted applies to ONLY a small human subset possessing un-commom common-sense,. You're likely one of these un-common people, or Sub Genius, possessing comparative analysis skills. The masses exist in a state of willful incoherence. Its just a matter of which "ride" you CHOOSE to go on inside this mindful amusement park we call life. Love you

[@justamoteofdust]

@@johnsilver5016 almost every human would die to save their loved ones if it came to such a situation, so isn't that proof of our unselfish nature which is pretty common?

[@ConquerCollin]

The social contract doesn't exist

[@vitorialobo1596]

12:22 he always seems to be speaking to a male from a developed country and I don't feel much contemplated by that. earlier in this video he talks about "the day in the hospital in which you were born" and like, I wasn't born in a hospital. anyway. just don't feel like he thinks his audience would be diverse, i guess?

[@safi14081]

I don't think it's much big of a deal though. You don't have to relate to every example as much as get the idea of it

[@joshuapearson2217]

The book was written before PC propaganda came along. I know you know better.

[@loremipsum752]

And why do you care? Butthurt much

[@dalemcloughlin7592]

The narrator IS a male from a developed country. It's likely a part of his original thought process that the unimportant details reflect himself. If his actual examination was through this sort of lens then there would be a problem, but it is only unimportant details and likely has nothing to do with targeting or preference.

[@capitalist_cosmonaut451]

Give him a break for God's sake.