Huge Rusty Vise - Restoration + Improvements

[@PhilVandelay]

By the way, if anyone knows these vise models, any Info on the manufacturer/history would be welcome! I can't see any make or model designations on them that I recognize, so I have no idea where these came from originally

[@K1VV1939]

Nice job

[@MorphVR6]

Send some pics to Abom79 he’ll have the answers you seek.

[@juleslobo5644]

Der größere der beiden dürfte ein 6er Meier & Weichelt aus Leipzig sein. Und auf jeden Fall älter als 1953, danach war das der VEB LES. Mit die besten Schraubstöcke, die es je gab. Unkaputtbar.

[@PhilVandelay]

@@juleslobo5644 Danke! Das kommt genau hin nach dem was ich auf Google dazu finde. Cool die Historie zu kennen, mal sehen ob jemand auch den anderen identifizieren kann

[@fredio54]

@@PhilVandelay Translating Jules' comment for others: The larger of the two should be a 6er Meier & Weichelt from Leipzig. And definitely older than 1953, after that it was VEB LES. One of the best vises ever. Unbreakable. Gotta love good German Schraubstöckes :-) searching ebay de for them is a lot of fun even if the shipping is sky high and/or impossible.

[@hypnolobster]

Love the cold blue, and I really love that vise design. The giant casting support below the moving jaw in particular.

[@PhilVandelay]

Yeah the more I worked on this the more I could appreciate how well it's made and how good the design is. I think you can't go wrong with an old vise this size, they didn't make those for hobbyists so they're built to last. The quality of the castings compared to the el cheapo vise says everything

[@asw19B100]

I have two vises that had failed because of insufficient casting support of the movable jaw, one an LS Starrett, so I too appreciate the solid design of this vise.

[@iteerrex8166]

Beautiful! The cold bluing is just right. Looks like an anvil, ready to take a beating, and not even show it. I would also make soft jaws for it, to complete it.

[@johncole5175]

New sub, love the "Don't have the patience for that"!!

[@thabaldwookiee1692]

KZbin suggested your Channel and I am glad it did. Love your work and I agree completely with all your decisions loved removing the rust leaving the pits and the blue looks great in the Vice.

[@Darkrif1957]

Thanks!

[@garydonnison3836]

You do a nice job Phil and i found this video very soothing and easy to watch well done

[@victoriamichellefrances1345]

Yes, I really love how this vice turned out. Lovely.

[@westweld]

I really like the design of that vise.....I have old Wilton but yours looks way more solid ( wilton over-rated in my opinion) I laughed a little when you said you weren't doing a full restore , I told myself ya we'll see haha. Never seen bluing on casting it looks great.

[@clsadil]

Haha. Exact same thought.

[@brad855]

Great video, it’s good to see a restoration video where they don’t remove the 30 years of work out of the tool but still have the old saw marks and dints left on and in it

[@DanKoning777]

1] I completely agree re: bluing vs paint and the perfect finish that results in having a vise you're afraid to use. 2] You're not unaware of the fact that your idea of the "preserved *rugged look"* [8.00], is really the *"perfect look"* for most ;) It's why your belt sander [shown in this video], turned out as it did; perfect in my opinion. It's why I subscribed. Btw, *great job on this vise.* I'm looking forward to the next restoration as well.

[@TheDishDoc]

Excellent restoration. Glad you saved that old vise. I think the cold blue gave it a nice industrial look. I've got a couple of vises I'm gonna restore. May just cold blue one!

[@wilbard6708]

Working on one myself, thanks for the video, it has helped a lot. Like the black painted parts, the red is nice too just not sure how it will hold up, great job.

[@bigmotter001]

Love the Bluing! Why paint and then beat up in a shop! Some restorers paint and polish them so they look like a Xmas tree ornament! Thanks for posting such great work and take care!

[@ADBBuild]

Turned out nice! I'm surprised you didn't add a thrust washer under the head of the main screw (the one that moves the jaw). Makes loosening the vise when tight much easier and just adds more smoothness to the operation.

[@nikxohs3925]

very nice work. you fix a tool, not a shinny thing for looking only

[@jiggidyjam]

Great work! I totally agree with you on the painting the vise

[@gyrenrockz]

Good to see you again sir

[@christopherprince3250]

Awesome job.

[@AlbiesProductsOnline]

If you put 2 O-rings one at each end of the handle it will stop the loud bag each time you let the handle go and it also stops the deformation caused by the knobs hitting the screw head

[@PhilVandelay]

Good idea, I'll try that

[@jarredsegal6842]

That’s actually the only half good reason to make the handle removable as near as I. Can tell because your obviously not going for a good as originally new restoration And instead are going for a new to me ready for a new work life restoration (The type most of us on here enjoy doing ourselves

[@frankagresti6852]

I think you did a fantastic job. It came out great as a usable tool.

[@anilmahabirsingh422]

Well done especially the finish

[@carlhitchon1009]

Really nice vice. Well worth your effort. Nice job too.

[@Austeration]

Very nice job 👍well done. I Liked & Subscribed

[@fredio54]

13:20 I hope by now you've got a manual impact driver? That's the only right way to remove old big tight screws like that due to the simultaneous inward and rotational force they impart. Using the power impact was a massive gamble, glad it mostly worked out though, phew.

[@tnknoutloud1]

Meticulous attention to detail. Liked the work and the camera angles/shots to demonstrate your work. Thanks for sharing.

[@mftmachining]

Gute Arbeit, sieht sehr gut aus. Es ist eine verbreitete Unsitte, die Drehbasis von Schraubstöcken zu fetten. Bei dieser Verbindung bist du auf Haftreibung angewiesen und nicht auf möglichst weiches gleiten. Bremstrommeln fettest du ja auch nicht, oder? Ansonsten topklasse Arbeit wie immer. Love it.

[@stephendewees-hz6ui]

Love the video and I have to say I've often wondered why restores don't blue vises. If used regularly I guarantee it will look better in five years than a similarly used painted vise.

[@PhilVandelay]

Yep, can confirm that. I've been using this a few years now and it still looks great and shows no rust. I think painting is fine if you do it professionally (e.g. Powdercoating) but anything applied with a brush will look terrible for a tool like this that sees heavy use

[@JustinTopp]

Beautiful work! Your work and videos are always such high quality!

[@OraDeCulcare]

Oh man, would have loved to see is painted. Awesome video anyway

[@RestorationAustralia]

Very nice restoration, well done.

[@ggggy5503]

Super video

[@Kenprints]

That looks awesome

[@TheMrer]

Beautiful!

[@ATG19534]

Great video. The result turned out fantastic and functional. I hope you’re being safe with the paint. It probably has a good chance of being lead paint.

[@PhilVandelay]

Thanks That's actually a good tip, I hadn't even considered that... I should be more disciplined with breathing protection in general 😕

[@HiImtoast]

I have one question! What is the song that plays during the assembly? I'm in love with it!

[@wildehilde3158]

Spring Jazz Cafe - Restaurant Lounge Backround Music

[@fredio54]

In contrast to everything else, I appreciated your minimal and careful approach to the main castings, that's good. Consider adding a thrust bearing on the front under the handle boss to increase force-efficiency and reduce effort to hold things.

[@remidolan2955]

need a mechanical (non electric) impact driver for the jaw bolts. Would work a charm.

[@RESTORATIONOFSCRAPMETAL]

Beautiful restoration buddy 👍 i like it 👍

[@toft2k]

Awesome as always!!!

[@churlepatakha]

Awesome work!

[@willaiml]

Love it

[@mateoboschify]

Awesome

[@williamkendall7412]

Well, looks to me like that vise is ready for use, not for show. I would be highly satisfied by it.

[@starflash08]

No idea of origin, what a great job you did, it's a massive cast iron vice showing very little wear, personally i wouldn't of machined the outside of the base, however a very fine job indeed.

[@myrestorations]

Good work friend!!!🙌🙌🙌🤝🤝🤝

[@Ogrûche]

Rien a dire 100% Super😉

[@chrisdeli7547]

Aaaa a 9gager banana for scale. A man of culture.

[@newandoldtech5634]

21:15 impulse is good, cant have enough tools. Words of Wisdom: "I dont read tool catalogues to see what they sell, but to see what I have that they dont sell"

[@jamesread11]

Looks great nice video

[@cykelfreak]

Isnt the base supose to be tightend down with three countersunkbolts? Nice work on the resto i really like the coldblue finish, need to find some to do that to some of my old vise.

[@PhilVandelay]

Yeah I just installed it there for demonstration, it'll move to a different place soon with a proper install

[@just.some.dud3]

Great video as always, Phil. Question: had you considered a big washer or thrust bearing for the handle side of the main spindle? Jason @ Fireball did something like that, thought it was a very cool idea.

[@PhilVandelay]

Should be easy enough to implement on this one, maybe I'll try it

[@just.some.dud3]

@@PhilVandelay personally I have not done it, but if I were to rebuild a big old vise I think I may. Logically it just seems like a good idea. But what do I know? Lol

[@just.some.dud3]

@@PhilVandelay also finally grabbed the TIG welding shirt. As a TIG welder myself I love it! The art style is great. Just had to wait for 2XL to be back in stock, lol.

[@giovannipetitti1588]

great video, 💯💯💯👍

[@ZahidKhan-tj8ty]

Good job pleas you must use thread lock on vise new bolt thread.

[@fordboss9275]

What was the liquid used in the cold blueing?

[@PhilVandelay]

Blueing liquid ;)

[@razvanon]

9:22 that's a dangerous thing to do

[@fredio54]

Wow, the smaller one is 49kg! My biggest vice is 55kg - your bigger one must be around 70kg? I guess we'll find out in the other video which is likely already published since I'm very late.

[@mimu9599]

Wie schützt du die Kurbel vor Rost? Ich hab auch nen >40 Kilo Schraubstock restauriert...aber die Kurbel bekommt trotz Polierung immer wieder Flugrost - ggf vom Schweiss der Hände.

[@PhilVandelay]

So wie fast alle blanken Metallflächen in der Werkstatt, Regelmäßig WD-40 o.ä. drauf. Dadurch dass ich eh ständig ölige Hände habe, erledigt sich das aber fast von selbst ;) Je nach Klima in der Werkstatt kann das auch täglich nötig sein (z.B. in meiner alten, wo morgens der Nebel drin stand). Aktuell hab ich einen beheizten Raum, da ist Rost eigentlich nie ein Problem. Eventuell tausche ich den Griff aber auch noch mal gegen einen aus Edelstahl, der nicht so viel Spiel in der Bohrung hat

[@mimu9599]

@@PhilVandelay Bei mir rostet in der Werkstatt auch nix.......nur halt genau der Bereich vom Griff den man mit den Fingern anfasst. Auch blöd: Hab den Schraubstock tlw Spiegelpoliert und so extrem restauriert, das ich den garnicht mehr nutzen kann - quasi n Werkstattdiorama in 1:1 ;-)

[@paulwomack5866]

Very interesting vice. You didn't comment on it in the video, so I'll say this explicitly: Given the hardened but non-toothed jaws AND the overall excellent condition, I think this vice (despite its size and strength) was used for quite precise work, on machined parts. Smooth jaws are rather rare.

[@PhilVandelay]

Yep, I was pleasantly surprised by that, I'm not a big fan of toothed jaws

[@paulwomack5866]

@@PhilVandelay Given the jaws are hardened, and are not simple rectilinear blocks, they were either made by a skilled man, or they're factory. Both possibilities are "interesting"

[@bobweiram6321]

Those parallel jaw grip pliers are beast! What are they called? There's no such thing as an impulse purchase when buying tools!

[@PhilVandelay]

Knipex Adjustable Wrench Pliers I think they're called in the US, they're amazing! It's like having a full set of wrenches in your pocket, but it's not a "nut fucker" like those crescent wrenches

[@simonbergman5970]

How is that Knipex adjustable wrench-pliers? Ive seen them advertised and I'd really like a pair, as long as they're good...

[@PhilVandelay]

They're awesome, one of my absolute favorite hand tools. I use these more than normal wrenches simply because you always have the right size in your hand. They're also great for stuff other than screwing nuts, like pressing stuff together. Get them, you won't regret it!

[@meghansikabayan8471]

I want to question at 1.34 !! What the name or type right vise ??the specification vise, anybody no ??please write on here, thanx

[@PhilVandelay]

It's a Meier & Weichelt No.6 but the company hasn't existed for decades and nobody makes these anymore. Both these vises are very old

[@meghansikabayan8471]

@@PhilVandelay thanx you very much i have 2 vise 4" and 6"

[@CarsRestored]

Me: No way he can restore this Phil: Hold my tools

[@oneshotme]

Really like what you've done and subscribed to your channel But are you going to keep putting out videos?? Enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up

[@PhilVandelay]

Well putting out ivdeos is the plan at least, yes

[@oneshotme]

@@PhilVandelay good to hear!!

[@Hannya7]

sheeesh

[@trentfrancis4646]

If you ate weetbix for breakfast Phil you would be able to lift that vise with ease

[@fathernojoy2706]

That paint may have a little lead in it. Should not be a problem if you don’t eat it.

[@carbonmac6906]

its amazing how many machine shop engineers, treat their bench vise like sh.t.... This might embarrass them.. maybe not.. ha..

[@autumn5592]

It's meant to hold things to work on, not sit there and look pretty.

[@chewningwitmer5806]

I have done very similar with Woodglut designs.

[@adamabele785]

I think the vice needs paint. Just my opinion.

[@AlbiesProductsOnline]

OMG 😱 you made my blood run cold when you were scratching at the old paint because getting a chip of paint shoot under your finger nail is horrible because as you try to pull it back out it crumbles causing you to go digging under your nail to retrieve the rest resulting in infection and pain please never ever ever do that again 🙏

[@ZBizenta]

Есть получше работа, из десяти я бы поставил 5, на больше не тянет!!!

[@JustinBania]

Spoiler: we never see the other one restored...

[@PhilVandelay]

I still have it, the thing is just that people seem tired of the whole vise restoration thing, so these videos are not getting views anymore sadly.

[@fredio54]

0:30 "the reason I even have these is..." - as a collector of old vices I do not need a reason for that, I need a reason why you had the other one at all - borrowed off a poor and tasteless friend for filming purposes? There are at least 3 countries in the world with zero excuse for buying crappy Chinese vices: UK (ample supply of Record, Woden, Paramo, and others), US (ample supply of wilton, collumbian, and various others), and Germany (ample supply of Brockhaus, Brockhaus Heuer, and many others) and a few other related countries like Canada that likely has mostly US vices but also likely has a good amount of British vices, and Australia and New Zealand which both have both British and Australian vices in ample numbers. Given you're in Germany, please explain away the possession of that piece of shit that the video started with :-D

[@fredio54]

"Which is actually the first vice I bought for my workshop" shame on you! :-D it's a pity for you that you didn't realise how many awesome used vices are available in your country at that time, oh well, it's all better now.

[@arielon13]

Best vise restoration I have seen... Thank for letting the casting texture being seen. Best regards!

[@skFelix]

Keep up with the vídeos Phil! These outstanding video, shop and tool quality are not easily seen elsewhere.

[@scotchanddry8121]

Awesome overhaul job Phil! I do have to say that the cold blue looks great too! Good job!

[@dogbreath6974]

When tools were built to last. Great video.

[@tooltimechris7217]

Please correct me if I’m wrong but I was always taught that you should hold your sandblasting gun at an angle. About 45 degrees. That way the glass or sand bounces of the object taking the paint with it and that will increase the lifetime of the grit. Instead of turning it into powder.

[@tru1988]

I appreciate your calm and cool attitude and narration. Excellent video.

[@braspatta]

Really cool t-shirts! Just grabbed a couple..

[@perrylc8812]

Glad you didn’t use paint.

[@yvesdesrosiers2396]

A suggestion for an improvement on the vice handle. Install a rubber washer at each end to stop the clang of the handle when you release it. thanks for sharing. Cheers

[@nordishkiel5985]

A big o-ring works as well if you have one around

[@zachwolfrom4522]

Don't we all just love My Mechanics!!

[@patlamb41]

Oh, great now I vise envy! Nice find. Good quality. Pretty sure not made in China. I would have grabbed them also.

[@eatenkate]

I was literally just randomly reminiscing about your belt grinder build this morning, and hoping for some awesome new project (:

[@bkdiyprojects6641]

That was mind blowing 👍👍 I was just waiting for your mill to come into action 😊 and it has come

[@raikbusse7697]

Very, very nice work, also the decision not to use color I find great. But this more than 100 (or70) years old design is too imprecise. The Wilton vises are much better in my opinion I think. Please excuse me if I say it that way. Here in Germany we have vices with dovetail guide from Leinen and Boley - very precise. But yes, it always depends on what you want to do with it. Best regards!

[@davefoster6156]

This restoration was to a working man's real vice, not some pretty boy vice that will never see any use

[@shaneharrison4775]

I liked the blued look better than paint looking forward for the next

[@uncleblack7322]

you do great work...

[@michaelrosenlof1084]

Outstanding as always, while enjoying the video, I thought-brother…you seriously need a blast cabinet, next scene…poof, there it is-guess you were listening 🤣 thanks for another great video ✅👍

[@michael7324]

Phil, I could not think of a better reason to buy a blasting cabinet. Also, the cold blue finish looks great.

[@lovejcdc]

That was absolutely awesome to see such a great vise get restored and the way you did it was perfect. I completely agree that it is better to leave the imperfections etc. as it's not a museum display lol you are actually using it. I think you did an amazing job. I would give almost anything to own that vise lol but oh well. I hope you get many years of use out of it.

[@Jaime1698]

Excellent result, it couldn't get better, congratulations on your excellent work, greetings from Portugal.

[@umahunter]

Nice job I really love the design of that swivel looks really cool 👍👍👍

[@bjarneiversen3665]

great video, love that you restore the vise and not pimp it up to unuseble.

[@bobcontreras5638]

Wow ! That was an awesome restoration. Beautiful work done, one of the best I've seen. 👌 Keep bringing those videos for us to watch.

[@GoldmansGarage]

A beautiful job and a very different vise. What brand or maker do you know? That nut and bolt is interesting

[@Raumfahrtblei]

Banana for scale...

[@evinev2h]

I see you're a man of culture