THE BIGGEST ANTI-AIR MISSILE IN THE GAME | Tor-M1

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@suitbanter1851
@suitbanter1851 2 жыл бұрын
The missile "jumping" before firing off is called cold launching. You guessed correctly, the missiles are launched through gas (the gas isn't actually in the missiles, it's through a gas chamber below the missile itself.) One of the benefits of cold launching over hot launching (the rocket engine activating within the vertical launch tube) is in the event of a launch and the missile engine malfunctions, they can eject the missile to avoid it exploding inside.
@nicazer
@nicazer 2 жыл бұрын
Another benefit of cold launching is having a smaller effect on the radar equipment. Hot launching that close to the radar reciever can mess with with the incoming data and possibly lose the lock if the missile is slaved to the vehicle's radar
@matthewdukes3207
@matthewdukes3207 2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the fact that an object at rest tends to stay at rest. The most inefficient part of any rocket launch is imparting that initial velocity, so if the rocket's already moving when the engine ignites, it wastes less propellant.
@nmspy
@nmspy 2 жыл бұрын
I dont think itd be too different, the initial momentum is upward, the rocket motor would still need to use as much energy to get it into motion, especially considering the TOR missile weight
@yurikostenko4110
@yurikostenko4110 2 жыл бұрын
And I should note that this is a fairly popular launch method in Russian missile systems. It is used in most anti-air missiles, in ICBMs, in different sea-based missiles and so on.
@90enemies
@90enemies 2 жыл бұрын
It also makes reusing the launch tube a lot cheaper and easier because you dont even need to maintain it often unlike Hot Launch.
@TK421-53
@TK421-53 2 жыл бұрын
04:58 “The missile predicts where you are at all times. It knows this because it predicts where you are not…”
@patrickbateman4148
@patrickbateman4148 2 жыл бұрын
Misquote
@yourallygod8261
@yourallygod8261 2 жыл бұрын
the missle knows where it is by knowing where it isn't for anyone feeling like it wasn't sounding right the way this commenter said it >:(
@cloaker7237
@cloaker7237 2 жыл бұрын
The missile knows where it is at all times It know this, because it knows where it isn’t.
@jblob5764
@jblob5764 2 жыл бұрын
@@patrickbateman4148 duh... Was edited for the situation
@carter8292
@carter8292 2 жыл бұрын
🤓
@blueskiestrevor5200
@blueskiestrevor5200 2 жыл бұрын
An advantage to a VLS (vertical launch) system like is is that you can fire multiple missiles rapidly in multiple directions without the turret needing to move. This makes sense when you understand that a big part of Tor's mission is to shoot down waves of inbound cruise missiles.
@nikiforosspyropoulos2756
@nikiforosspyropoulos2756 2 жыл бұрын
The missile moving so erratically is giving me major anxiety
@pileOgames
@pileOgames 2 жыл бұрын
Mostly phrom the server replay. In game its smoother lol
@devenirpyro
@devenirpyro 2 жыл бұрын
It knows where it is because it knows where it isn't
@yureinobbie68
@yureinobbie68 2 жыл бұрын
I thought it was a stock market curve phrom the side xD
@jansimek8816
@jansimek8816 2 жыл бұрын
The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't. In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation, the variation being the difference between where the missile is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was.
@Lord_Of_Spoon
@Lord_Of_Spoon 2 жыл бұрын
It's just doing the owl thing to increase its depth perception.
@Banjax007
@Banjax007 2 жыл бұрын
“The missile knows where it is because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is, the system commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. The position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't.”
@javaboii8118
@javaboii8118 2 жыл бұрын
hahahaha, i instantly thought of this when Phly started saying:" The missle knows.."
@eddyapimenteldelrosario601
@eddyapimenteldelrosario601 Жыл бұрын
I KNEW SOMEONE WAS GOING TO SAY THIS
@dustinlackey4250
@dustinlackey4250 Жыл бұрын
I gave myself a stroke reading this
@KampfTiger1
@KampfTiger1 2 жыл бұрын
Actually the RIM-24a are the biggest Surface to Air Missiles, its on the USS Douglas. Could be a cool video idea.
@PhlyDaily
@PhlyDaily 2 жыл бұрын
👁👄👁
@toasteroven6761
@toasteroven6761 2 жыл бұрын
​@@PhlyDaily 590 Kg of CAS Pain... And the missiles will only get bigger, imagine when SM-2 or even the SM-6 missile enters the game on DDGs...
@_jagerbomb
@_jagerbomb 2 жыл бұрын
🤓
@thunderwrld
@thunderwrld 2 жыл бұрын
@@toasteroven6761 Sm2 and sm6 will be op no matter what dude
@molstad182
@molstad182 2 жыл бұрын
@@_jagerbomb cornball+cringe+L
@ideadlift20kg83
@ideadlift20kg83 2 жыл бұрын
It's meant to shoot down multiple targets at the same time which is why it has the launch system. It means it can just pop a missile and have the tiny rocket shove it in the right direction without turning the turret.
@arcturus960
@arcturus960 2 жыл бұрын
Forgot to mention that the TOR can lock onto two targets at once and quickly switch between which is being tracked
@IvanTre
@IvanTre Жыл бұрын
Does this work in the game too ?
@konstantin88181
@konstantin88181 2 жыл бұрын
1:34 this is for firing from closed positions, when surrouded by trees, or rocks or buildings. Rescently there is a video appeared where "Pancyr" shoots at multiple targets from closed positions and one of rockets just hits near building just because of this reason - tilted missile launcher. Also Tor's missiles are much heavier, so this vertical lounching position is it's key feauture.
@vannlo355
@vannlo355 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like when it launches out it's fins are pointed in a specific way to allow it to turn before the motor fires
@jacobdewey2053
@jacobdewey2053 2 жыл бұрын
Most systems like this use a set of thrusters in a cap on the nose to orient the missile before firing the main motor. You can actually see them fire in real-life videos of systems like this.
@vannlo355
@vannlo355 2 жыл бұрын
@@jacobdewey2053 I see, I was just taking a guess
@jacobdewey2053
@jacobdewey2053 2 жыл бұрын
@@vannlo355 No worries! Just thought I'd chime in with some knowledge
@hf117j
@hf117j 2 жыл бұрын
It's a good guess, the main thing you forgot to account for is that at speeds that low with the weight it has, it probably wouldn't have enough airspeed over the fins to orient it until the motor fires
@Fantastic_Mr_Fox
@Fantastic_Mr_Fox Жыл бұрын
@@vannlo355 I made the same guess as you originally, but looked at some footage and you can clearly see the jets on the nose, it's really cool
@cadet5126
@cadet5126 2 жыл бұрын
As dcs pilot and study of missile evasion i can tell you can hit the dive to bamboozle missile dive into the ground killing itself. Second tactic is to notch which is pointing your wing at the threat (you know when you're 90° degrees to threat site from RWR) 3rd tactic is weaving which happens turning side to side as you're chaffing. Tactic for those fighters or players that doesn't have chaff against SAMs like Tor is to go back dive to treetop level and weave but do not turn hard or you'll lose speed and become vulnerable to missile. TOR missiles can be independent which means even it's host lose lock on you the missile itself sees you but if you do many evasive actions you will likely break it's lock because it's too much for it or it self destruct due to it's low energy it had to bleed because it tries always get ahead of you.
@ionator2000ist
@ionator2000ist 2 жыл бұрын
Another to keep in mind is the TOR-1 in warthunder is nerfed to be usable in warthunder. They can shoot out to like 20-25 almost 30 miles.
@sunshadow7XK
@sunshadow7XK Жыл бұрын
>Nerfed to be useable God I hate this. People want tanks, but then when they behave like actual tanks they act like babies.
@shadowconquer-yv5yd
@shadowconquer-yv5yd Жыл бұрын
@@sunshadow7XK 🤓It's an SPAA. Also what can you do, it's a multiplayer game.
@gamblerik9723
@gamblerik9723 Жыл бұрын
the missiles are stored in the middle because it is protected and its better than having 8 unprotected missles at your back that everyone can see.
@noahwipert3688
@noahwipert3688 2 жыл бұрын
So glad your back Phly, we all missed you!
@IAteYourCookiez
@IAteYourCookiez 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@tobi2233
@tobi2233 2 жыл бұрын
Chill it’s not like he came back from the dead
@bungojerry9297
@bungojerry9297 2 жыл бұрын
People have been commenting this since he came back. "it's time to stop"-filthy frank
@Marin3r101
@Marin3r101 2 жыл бұрын
You're as in you are back Your back would imply you are talking about his back.... that would just be weird.
@FillyCheesteak
@FillyCheesteak 2 жыл бұрын
You’re
@turtlepowa
@turtlepowa 2 жыл бұрын
This AA to be honest feels like and underground missile base for some reason I am glad you are back
@toasteroven6761
@toasteroven6761 2 жыл бұрын
More like DDG VLS cell imo
@xRxSxFx2xPxGx
@xRxSxFx2xPxGx 2 жыл бұрын
i think in addition to what others have said about firing multiple rockets at once at different targets, the VLS allows it to be better hidden or camouflaged say if in a clearing in the woods or in a courtyard in a clump of buildings in a small town, if working in tandem with separate radar entities it can fire without needing a direct line of sight without giving away where it launched from .
@mr.snidor1773
@mr.snidor1773 2 жыл бұрын
So we are just ignoring the fact that he uses KZbin white mode....
@theegunpro4561
@theegunpro4561 2 жыл бұрын
The vertical launch really reminds me of the submarines from back in the day
@arcturus960
@arcturus960 2 жыл бұрын
@twerking bollocks he’s talking about the April fools event for I think 2020
@MrOiram46
@MrOiram46 2 жыл бұрын
I remember the Tor-M1 was also in the original MW2 during “Contingency” mission, it’s the one that shoots down the 1st Predator drone that you use in the mission when you reach the top of a hill overlooking a village
@bohdannikitin9119
@bohdannikitin9119 Жыл бұрын
You could destroy it before it shoots down drone btw
@doorlock4631
@doorlock4631 2 жыл бұрын
5:23 ; A missle knows where it is, by subtracting where it isnt….
@TK421-53
@TK421-53 2 жыл бұрын
You beat me to it 😂
@IndigoSolution
@IndigoSolution 2 жыл бұрын
The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't. In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation, the variation being the difference between where the missile is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was. The missile guidance computer scenario works as follows. Because a variation has modified some of the information the missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is. However, it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it knows where it was. It now subtracts where it should be from where it wasn't, or vice-versa, and by differentiating this from the algebraic sum of where it shouldn't be, and where it was, it is able to obtain the deviation and its variation, which is called error.
@Rickyp0123
@Rickyp0123 2 жыл бұрын
@@IndigoSolution That was a freaking great read. Thank you sir or madam.
@Maddog3060
@Maddog3060 2 жыл бұрын
@@IndigoSolution This is why mathematicians shouldn't explain things until they're forced to get an A in their language courses.
@rayotoxi1509
@rayotoxi1509 2 жыл бұрын
1:45 its launches it vertical becuse the soviet wanted to have a Sam system that cann engage targets 90 degree over it the search radar even looks up you cann see the small extention on the radar angled upwards so you cann scan for targets above you and shoot them
@vdq
@vdq 2 жыл бұрын
You have been back a while now but I cannot explain how much excitement I still feel seeing a new video
@bIuebuIIet
@bIuebuIIet 2 жыл бұрын
The "lead" mode is meant to be used against missiles. Standard tracking is fine for aircraft as at the very least you'll destroy the engines and it'll crash. With a missiles, primarily with WMDs, you need to destroy the warhead as destroying with tank/body will in most cases allow the warhead to continue on its flight trajectory. The SAM will explode in front of the target sending the energy and shrapnel either into the incoming missile or sort of make a flak cloud of shrapnel that will detonate the warhead as it passes through the cloud. Think of it like a guidable Flak gun from WW2: you want to lead your target to kill it. It works foe aircraft too but it's not necessary That's the dumbed down explanation at least. "Lead" for missiles, "trail" for aircraft.
@21Walls
@21Walls 2 жыл бұрын
I think the reason the missiles are missing/snaking hard and losing energy is because Phly is switching out of auto mode. In the lead mode, every small change in target direction at long range makes the missile veer hard to keep leading with each slight move. The target burns very little energy but the missile burns a lot of energy. In auto mode, I suspect the missile will use the most energy saving mode until it's close enough that the lead mode will not cause wild deviations in its course.
@mekset4135
@mekset4135 2 жыл бұрын
5:27 „The missile knows where it is because it knows where it isn't by subtracting where it is from...“
@zer0neverer098
@zer0neverer098 4 ай бұрын
On the strategy to evade the missile, there's a certain turret in Space Engineers iirc, that fires into the predicted future position of a ship based on it's vectors movement. The way it's usually avoided is with a screewdriver/vortex type of forward movement, which often results in complete and continous missing of the target. The danger of this method is if the object under our control moves completely straight and is, in fact, only rotating, our ass *will* get nae nae'd. If one would say, learn how to perform a controlled stall turn from screwdriver or vortex forward movement, without falling out of the sky due to loss of lift, that could be one of the ways to dodge, because the missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is - whichever is greater - it obtains a difference or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviation to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position that it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is is now the position that it wasn't, and if follows that the position that it was is now the position that it isn't. In the event that the position that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation. The variation being the difference between where the missile is and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was. The missile guidance computer scenario works as follows: Because a variation has modified some of the information that the missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is. However, it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it know where it was. It now subtracts where it should be from where it wasn't, or vice versa. And by differentiating this from the algebraic sum of where it shouldn't be and where it was, it is able to obtain the deviation and its variation, which is called error.
@spit782
@spit782 2 жыл бұрын
5:27 The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't, by subtracting where it is, from where it isn't, or where it isn't, from where it is, whichever is greater, it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance sub-system uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is, to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position where it was, is now the position that it isn't. In the event of the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has required a variation. The variation being the difference between where the missile is, and where it wasn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too, may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was. The missile guidance computance scenario works as follows: Because a variation has modified some of the information the missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is, however it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it knows where it was. It now subracts where it should be, from where it wasn't, or vice versa. By differentiating this from the algebraic sum og where it shouldn't be, and where it was. It is able to obtain a deviation, and a variation, which is called "air"
@ExcavationNation
@ExcavationNation 2 жыл бұрын
Phly it flips over in the beginning bc The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is, whichever is greater, it obtains a difference, or deviation.
@EraOfJack
@EraOfJack 2 жыл бұрын
Stacking the missiles vertically allows you to fit for more missiles, especially when they're that big. The missile system was designed to house the missiles inside to protect them mainly from the environment so feasible way to house them sideways. You have to do verticle.
@edisontrent5244
@edisontrent5244 Жыл бұрын
A anti tank version would be interesting
@Dragomaster08
@Dragomaster08 Жыл бұрын
god no
@birphon
@birphon Жыл бұрын
strap a couple Javelins and call it a day LMAO
@casualspawnpeeking3680
@casualspawnpeeking3680 Жыл бұрын
We kinda already have this with the javelin minus the cold launch
@dirtyfiendswithneedles3111
@dirtyfiendswithneedles3111 9 ай бұрын
Skibidi toilet
@kanestalin7246
@kanestalin7246 4 ай бұрын
So an atgm?
@lucian9685
@lucian9685 2 жыл бұрын
I guess the main benefit VLS (vertical launch system) is that its easy to reload and you can store more munitions without the need of complex reloading equipment like that used in rail and tube launched systems. It would be the same for naval ships using VLS, Plus extra credit for looking cool af
@BirdiesGoCherp
@BirdiesGoCherp 2 жыл бұрын
The reason the launch sounds like the torpedo is because they're both metal tubes grinding against their metal launcher.
@ZengoOshiba
@ZengoOshiba Жыл бұрын
8:44 is basically the only time I have ever heard Phly genuinely scared from seeing a team mate die.
@seadragonyt5391
@seadragonyt5391 10 ай бұрын
So funny. 🤣
@danielthegermanguy8978
@danielthegermanguy8978 10 ай бұрын
it was me
@dylandaugherity4041
@dylandaugherity4041 2 жыл бұрын
I forgot how much phly daddy makes me appreciate the small things in warthunder
@FredRated1967
@FredRated1967 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, usually for a launch like that, they use some kind of compressed gas to give the initial boost before the missile's motor ignites.
@TheNecromancer6666
@TheNecromancer6666 Жыл бұрын
The VLS in the Tor is the most efficient way to Shoot 360 and to store missile. Same reason, why most ships have VLS. The Tor flipps with manouver Jets.
@anthonyfarrell7720
@anthonyfarrell7720 2 жыл бұрын
I look forward to seeing the Type 93 and the Tor-M1 chilling together on the battlefield, despite being on opposite teams.
@michaelbeiler7164
@michaelbeiler7164 Жыл бұрын
Man i really wish i knew your key bindings, id love to know what you have and maybe if it suits me set mine up kinda similar
@sweatybotfn9982
@sweatybotfn9982 Жыл бұрын
It’s a cold launch, compressed air from inside the launch module pushes the missile out just like on the a submarine
@soy_sauce.19
@soy_sauce.19 2 жыл бұрын
Man I can't say how much I have missed the daily uploads from daddy Phly ;)
@TURAMOTH
@TURAMOTH 2 жыл бұрын
I felt the pain in phly’s scream when Daniel died
@BallisticAero
@BallisticAero 2 жыл бұрын
Seeing ppl in a cobra let along in 11.0 pop off always makes me happy. That thing usually gets ripped apart like wet paper before it's even 2 km to the battlefield
@nightbird351
@nightbird351 2 жыл бұрын
anytime i see Phly play WT.... i get motivated log in , get destroyed.annihilated... delete game and dedicate myself to watch these vids 😀😅
@edgelordcutting
@edgelordcutting 2 жыл бұрын
The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is (whichever is greater), it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was, is now the position that it isn't.
@LifeOfExo
@LifeOfExo 2 жыл бұрын
The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is, whichever is greater, it obtains a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem uses deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't and, arriving at a position where it wasn't, it now is. Consequently, the position where it is, is now the position that it wasn't, and it follows that the position that it was is now the position that it isn't. In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it wasn't, the system has acquired a variation; the variation being the difference between where the missile is and where it isn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it, too, may be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must also know where it was. The missile guidance computer scenario works as follows: because a variation has modified some of the information the missile has obtained, it is not sure just where it is, however it is sure where it isn't, within reason, and it knows where it was. It now subtracts where it should be from where it wasn't, or vice versa. And by differentiating this from the algebraic sum of where it shouldn't be and where it was, it is able to obtain the deviation and its variation, which is called error.
@magicintelligence6625
@magicintelligence6625 2 жыл бұрын
That chopper...looks like a Daniel Tiger in the neighborhood.
@husarzzpolski3424
@husarzzpolski3424 Жыл бұрын
The missle knows where it is at all time.
@goose8818
@goose8818 2 жыл бұрын
Phly I just wanted you to know that I’ve been watching you ever since I started playing war thunder about 5 years ago and I just wanna say that all of your videos make me happy and laugh even when I’m sick or having a bad day so thank you❤ (R.I.P Daniel)😢
@Sneaksatacks
@Sneaksatacks 2 жыл бұрын
Personal theory about the reason for the turret, maybe the rocket pitching forward has something to do with the position of the launch tube, meaning maybe the ejection charge or whatever it uses is off center of the rocket to make it pitch, which may require the whole mechanism to rotate to change pitch direction. It may also be to position the targeting equipment on front of the turret to point directly/closer at the target. Again, IDK, but that's my guess. I'm sure someone who knows more will comment eventually.
@il_vendicatore
@il_vendicatore 2 жыл бұрын
they are too big to store side ways + less moving parts + more storage capacity + no reload
@TM450FI
@TM450FI 9 ай бұрын
It could use little motors to rotate the missiles in the direction of the radar lock, but that would create a delay to rotate the missiles
@Echo_4609
@Echo_4609 2 жыл бұрын
If this is anything like the Little Bird we can almost NEVER expect this AA to be added into it's real country's tech tree
@jarrid2853
@jarrid2853 Жыл бұрын
That shot at 7:48 was impressive
@jarrid2853
@jarrid2853 Жыл бұрын
@thomasscottish6601 that’s so awesome! Been watching vids for like 2 years! Best Christmas wishes to ya!
@Mrsharky125
@Mrsharky125 Жыл бұрын
@Thomas Scottish nice bot
@olischwarz2912
@olischwarz2912 Жыл бұрын
The reason for the vertical tubes is because it is more efficient. If you look at most of the Naval Vessels (Russian, American etc) they have the capability for a VLS (Vertical launch system). It can also mean that you can change the type of missile in the case of something like a Ticonderoga class cruiser. Instead of having Anti-Air SM-6's it could have Tomahawk cruise missiles instead in the same tubes that the SM-6's would be in. It is overall just a better and more efficient way of launching missiles.
@HappyCamper907
@HappyCamper907 2 жыл бұрын
This missile knows where you are going to be because it knows where you aren't going to be.
@gabrieleramian591
@gabrieleramian591 Жыл бұрын
19:05 something you can do to dodge modern air défense missiles is called notching and it implies flying perpendicular to the missile while launching flares and chaff. This makes it harder for the missile to track the target. I don’t know if it’s modeled in the game but I would hope so
@Nebby_Webby
@Nebby_Webby 2 ай бұрын
Flares? What do flares have to do with it
@ZackBadCompany1234
@ZackBadCompany1234 Жыл бұрын
I think phly need to watch the s550 launch lol if he wants his mind blown
@America_Yea
@America_Yea Жыл бұрын
From what I've heard those are the same vertical missiles designed for ship use and are mortar fired before igniting the secondary systems so as to not damage delicate radar or other systems or personnel with the backblast.
@America_Yea
@America_Yea Жыл бұрын
Cold launch is also used for this but with these particular systems if you look closely there is smoke from the lofting charge ejected with the launch of the missile. It's cheaper and far more reliable as a closed system than having to maintain compressed air under tge launch systems.
@slowlydying6967
@slowlydying6967 2 жыл бұрын
I think the best chance of avoiding it would be making big maneuvers at longer ranges, try and make it bleed all of its energy tracking you. other than that, only prayers can help you
@ThijsEsveldt
@ThijsEsveldt 2 жыл бұрын
Bleeding it's energy won't really help you, depending on the tracking mode the player is using you need speed and only manouvre a bit
@phats701
@phats701 2 жыл бұрын
I love the replay analysis - always wanted to re-watch some of your good kills, so i'm here for it!!
@pocketsand4404
@pocketsand4404 2 жыл бұрын
The reason the missiles shoot upward are what the Russians call "Cold Launched". It catapults upward then the rocket is ignited. This allows the silos to be reused without damaging them from the rocket motor.
@The_Ahab
@The_Ahab Жыл бұрын
The missile knows where you are, because it knows where you aren't.
@thomaszhang3101
@thomaszhang3101 2 жыл бұрын
The missile is launched like this so that it can fire while the turret is not pointing at the enemy. The missiles can first fly towards the rough location of the enemy via intertidal guidance and then get guidance by the turret when the turret has turned towards the enemy. It just saves a few seconds of reaction time really.
@whoknows8864
@whoknows8864 2 жыл бұрын
Then why launch the missles from the turret if the advantage is that the turret can turn to lock afterwards?
@thomaszhang3101
@thomaszhang3101 2 жыл бұрын
@@whoknows8864 because you need a big turret anyways, to house the fire control radar and optics, and the missiles is very long so has to be at the center of the vehicle, then why not put it at the middle of the turret and make it turn with the turret?
@whoknows8864
@whoknows8864 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomaszhang3101 Because it adds unnecessary complexity and cost to do it. Although, it does make sense that the missles are too long to be anywhere else. That slipped my mind.
@thomaszhang3101
@thomaszhang3101 2 жыл бұрын
@@whoknows8864 haha the last things to worry about in a Russia vehicle are cost and complexity 😂 Sometimes it’s a little too simple, almost primitive
@whoknows8864
@whoknows8864 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomaszhang3101 for their small arms, sure. But as far has vehicles go? The fancy autoloaders and putting the missles in the turret are a little contradictory to simplicity.
@bornonthebattlefront4883
@bornonthebattlefront4883 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Phly! Awesome Video as always! Loving the SPAA videos! As always peeps, DONT FORGET TO LEAD YOUR TARGETS But hey, you should check out the Italian C13 T90 It was the vehicle that got me my phirst nuke, and I’d like to see it and the ABUL/74 (specifically the 90mm) on the channel! The combo means in any terrain you can get to a sneaky spot, and scout phor tons of SP! (Day 111) (But play the Hawk III first) (Play all the new stuff actually first, then the Hawk, then the C13) Even tho he’s retired I still strive to see the Hawk III for my boy
@die4G
@die4G 2 жыл бұрын
The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't
@flippyz7206
@flippyz7206 2 жыл бұрын
RIP Daniel, he died doing what he loved.
@bullreeves1109
@bullreeves1109 2 жыл бұрын
Attempt 361: Play the forgotten Mig-9 and show everyone the power of the original 23-37mm Vodka Jet.
@TheBic4
@TheBic4 2 жыл бұрын
Used to be the best jet in game
@kh5736
@kh5736 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheBic4 its still decent if the 37mm wouldn't behave like the sparkanos did 37mm HE shell doesn't only hit and do 9 god damn damage.
@MrTAGGER88
@MrTAGGER88 2 жыл бұрын
My sanity break from war thunder ended perfectly in time for phly's return as well! What a sick coincidence
@RubyFox_YT
@RubyFox_YT 2 жыл бұрын
7:37 "We got shitters like me here." I nearly spit my Coke on the screen XD
@thevortex6754
@thevortex6754 2 жыл бұрын
I believe why the missiles are launched like that is because navy ships like the Arleigh Burke class has a VLS and you can carry so many missiles with less moving parts. So in reality the Tor-2 is a small, mobile land VLS for AA use. That’s my reasoning, since the arm carrying design like on some of the AA like the ADATs??? Idk haven’t gotten that far in the game yet, but it was very complex on ships and could only carry a couple missiles and had a long, complex reload time
@ArmiesPower
@ArmiesPower Жыл бұрын
You Are The Best Warthunder Content Creator On KZbin I Wish You Success ❤️✌🏻
@WarDaddyUSA
@WarDaddyUSA 2 жыл бұрын
you have no idea the excitement I get when I have been seeing phlydaily uploads like crazy.. hell yeah
@afreshsoda453
@afreshsoda453 2 жыл бұрын
3 videos in less than 2 days? This is great
@C10_WN
@C10_WN 2 жыл бұрын
Oh nice it was the newest SPAA
@darkmosino4874
@darkmosino4874 2 жыл бұрын
5:25 The missile knows where you are at all times, it knows this because it knows where you will be.
@darthkarl99
@darthkarl99 2 жыл бұрын
As others have explained it's meant to engage multiple targets and in the real world it will often get the radar data from a different entity so it doesn't need it's own radar to guide the missles. Imagine if helicopter base AA put an F-14 style track while scan lock on anything that came too close that you could use in warthunder terms.
@TacticalMedic91
@TacticalMedic91 2 жыл бұрын
War thunder is 100% prepping for the arleigh burke class.
@TacticalMedic91
@TacticalMedic91 Жыл бұрын
I've been saying this for months.
@rodrigobastos1727
@rodrigobastos1727 8 ай бұрын
It's time to add anti-radiation missile in this game
@CN_MightyDragon
@CN_MightyDragon 2 жыл бұрын
"Oh my god Daniel, Oh, Daniel, Daneilll!"😂😂😂
@jacksonhairston6882
@jacksonhairston6882 Жыл бұрын
The missile knows where it is. It knows this because it knows where it isn’t.
@cakeadventure8412
@cakeadventure8412 2 жыл бұрын
5:28 "The missile knows where..." oh here we go again lol
@sentium9760
@sentium9760 4 ай бұрын
This drunk man out here trying to make us watch naval for the sounds.
@starlord3487
@starlord3487 2 жыл бұрын
2:46 Bayraktar destroyed dozens of targets, don't make me laugh
@bucherwurm5344
@bucherwurm5344 Жыл бұрын
I love when he said "It's Torin time" and then Tor'd on everyone
@hopeful_devoid6598
@hopeful_devoid6598 2 жыл бұрын
This missed system is meant to intercept fast moving targets in a short distance. It doesn't does well against aircraft with a large degree of maneuverability such as drones and helicopters. Also it is easily distracted by missiles since the computer prioritizes them.
@TheClutchCaleb
@TheClutchCaleb 2 жыл бұрын
BEYOND happy to see Phly in my feed. Working from home feels good again!
@pedrogiorgini
@pedrogiorgini Жыл бұрын
THE MISSILE KNOWS WHERE IT IS BY ALL TIMES
@Mandred85
@Mandred85 2 жыл бұрын
DANIEL! NOOOO!!!! XD
@warthog6467
@warthog6467 Жыл бұрын
phly launching missiles in the TOR FlaRakRad casually drives by
@MyStoryMyJeep
@MyStoryMyJeep 10 ай бұрын
THE MISSLE KNOWS WHERE IT IS AT ALL TIMES BY KNOWING WHERE IT ISNT AT ALL TIME
@comradekanna835
@comradekanna835 2 жыл бұрын
2:15 so there are still people that use the white theme
@junibug6790
@junibug6790 2 жыл бұрын
The missile isn't spazzing out; it's just writing "suka blyat" in exhaust vapor before deciding to head toward the target.
@ErikHusky
@ErikHusky 2 жыл бұрын
Make a video about how the SU-11 is the most broken thing in air RB at 7.0. (attempt 5)
@Mamiya645
@Mamiya645 Жыл бұрын
Choosing missile functionality like that should mean it's incoming to everything with Hellfire and Vikhr. Hellfire chooses (in-cockpit) between lofting and direct-on approach aka one marathon of the extended editions of the Lord of The Rings trilogy before it hits or something reasonable, while Vikhr chooses (before even getting put on the vehicle) between ground target functionality or proxy-fuse. Things would be made a bit more fair that way.
@duvagr007
@duvagr007 2 жыл бұрын
Phly I think you missed one of the coolest pheatures of this SAM system: it can fire and forget at multiple targets. They covered it in the Shooting Range. Lock one, fire with the lead tracking, use the 'switch radar target' keybind to the next, rinse and repeat.
@ThijsEsveldt
@ThijsEsveldt 2 жыл бұрын
You'll hardly ever use it tho. 2 enemies have to be, and stay, within the same axis.
@duvagr007
@duvagr007 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThijsEsveldt this is true
@luminary69revision2
@luminary69revision2 Жыл бұрын
THE MISSILE KNOWS WHERE IT IS AT ALL TIMES
@boomcat1337
@boomcat1337 2 жыл бұрын
Missiles are stored in turret because it tip the missile in that direction of the track radar.
@chris15782
@chris15782 2 жыл бұрын
I just gotta say, it is so nice to have you back man! I don’t even play war thunder anymore and you make me laugh out loud and shout at the screen every time you post a video. Thanks for doing what you do man!
@OnlyonXBOXONE
@OnlyonXBOXONE 2 жыл бұрын
The missile knows where it is at all times. It knows this because it knows where it isn't. By subtracting where it is from where it isn't, or where it isn't from where it is.
@superbrain3848
@superbrain3848 2 жыл бұрын
Chaff should work a bit wiith the Missile. will be kinda intresting if they add Electronic warfare as a aspect to the game, radar jammer pods can help with evading this kind of missiles, since it will deny the radar ranging informations
@nathanbennett5639
@nathanbennett5639 Жыл бұрын
That rocket has so much energy!
@U_Jelly
@U_Jelly 2 жыл бұрын
Epic dubstep intro phly 🤙 Keep it up 👍
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