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[@CraftyMasterman]

They better call the hypothetical vehicle speed modifier to /penguin

[@PhoenixSC]

/penguin @e[type=boat] speed 100000000

[@Lancastrius]

@@PhoenixSC Precisely lol

[@Idk-cd4io]

​@@PhoenixSC now I can be fast! Thx.

[@suspicioussand]

/penguin @penguin[type=penguin] speed penguin

[@Noteturtle90]

​@@suspicioussand you forgot (distance=penguin) niugnep

[@remmistein]

I would honestly prefer if this was how the Mob Vote worked with the one in 1st place being implemented first, then the 2nd/3rd following after.

[@felipovisk972]

I honestly thought mob votes would be like this at first.

[@xendordawnburst9969]

If you mean added in snapshots, then it wouldn't really matter because they would all be in the official version. And they can't be released by the updates to the version, because everyone playing any version of 1.20 (as far as I'm aware) is capable of playing together. Adding in mobs to a later version of 1.21 wouldn't work because people playing on 1.21.1 wouldn't have access to the mobs in 1.21.3 or whatever. Which means each losing mob would be released a year later in 1.22!

[@killernyancat8193]

This is how I always thought it was. The giant squid was reimplemented as bubble columns, the desert thing became a grindstone, etc.

[@ThatGuyRNA]

That’s literally how they are being implemented

[@justadude450]

They've said they'll add the other, but it feels like they never actually will. The Swamp feels like a fluke now.

[@ctdaniels7049]

I hadn't checked up on Minecraft in years, and now I learn that despite the decade or so of Minecraft being owned by a zillion-dollar company, it still has the dev support of like... two people working weekends.

[@RoseWhitmore]

yeah... pretty much. their mob updates that take weeks and weeks of mob votes and are only once a year each, add a mob that most devs could easily add in an afternoon. its actually kinda insane. land a job at Mojang as a java dev and you have the easiest job in the world, 1 hour work weeks

[@nelsonnicholson6175]

They're also lucky to have some of the most easily contented fanbases I have ever seen. Any change you could ask for is answered with "well, that would ruin this other thing that people enjoy, so they shouldn't work to make adjustments" or "that thing is fine because this group of people remains happy" like lmao okay just stop updating the game ig

[@blackwoodsecurity531]

it's probably just a community management scheme designed to create traction either through competitive FOMO (different people will drive up media traction due to their different fear of missing out on their preferred content) or through the controversy. Remember that these features and additions aren't resource intensive for just about any dev team. These things have been made by modders in days or hours of free time. So the company or even the department isn't losing out on money by not including a portion of these "keychain" style additions. Minecraft has always been a massively popular game via it's relatively massive time sink:cost ratio for gamers. It's always been cheap, and has always provided thousands of hours of gameplay to almost all of it's purchasers, it's generated nearly 100% satisfaction as a product. Today, it's been acquired. The first direction an IP is taken towards after being acquired by a different entity is to make money. Minecraft skin packs sell- sure, but skins by and large are free. Skin packs sell on console due to the obvious lack of a free skin market. Mods also massively expand all ends of the game in all sorts of directions, and the only place that the premium behavior packs and scripted world packs sell is again- console, which is only a portion of the total playerbase. Microsoft acquired ownership over a product that is already owned by most people, maintains low cost as a part of it's appeal, and has very little space for the IP to grow value-wise. They won't release DLC content in the form of worldly expansion, because while it would sell, it would hurt the value of the IP. We don't want "the aether" as a 14.99 DLC.

[@NickManEA]

@@blackwoodsecurity531I despise the Bedrock Edition store more than anything in this world.

[@gaetanodepaola2ndchannel179]

​@@blackwoodsecurity531Honestly, just play Tekkit Lite or something, mods on Java are free, as it SHOULD BE. Therefore if Microsoft/Mojang wants money (cuz apparently they don't have enough money already oozing out of their butts), they could just do what any sane game dev company would: make an expansion pack for the game. I wouldn't pay $15 for "the Aether", because we already know the Aether as a free mod. I would, however, pay, say $5, on a new official Minecraft expansion, that may add new mechanics like minerals and whatnot. Honestly though, Minecraft has squeezed out so much money already, over the long years. Since we're talking about multimillion dollar companies, I don't see why they can't just leave it as is, and continue doing updates and adding new content to Minecraft, perhaps with a little more substance than the current 1 mob and 1 feature per year. You know, to keep the fans engaged. Although Minecraft is still an amazing game, and it always will be, to me.

[@LordMarshyMan]

“We’re going to add 3 new mechanics, but one of them gets a mob that isn’t needed for the feature and you get to vote!”

[@missdamenoir2830]

Except for the fact that it's a command and not obtainable in survival without cheats... Y'all are reaching just to hate on Mojang at this point, the minecraft community is so toxic when it comes to shit like this lol.

[@LightCrib2]

me when i use console commands in survival

[@carlpapa123]

Hey new mob I'm happy. I personally think the armadillo is nice.

[@CheeseMiser]

@@missdamenoir2830 exactly

[@CheeseMiser]

@@carlpapa123 what

[@ItsCre3per]

The idea of turtle scutes being the wolf armor is better than adding a new mob exclusively for this.

[@EmperorPenguin1217]

I'm convinced Minecraft forgot about the sea turtle, I can't even blame them honestly since turtles are forgettable anyway

[@gemmameidia8438]

Truee then we just need to be able to put the dye on it, would love it!!

[@penguin_reader_yt9510]

And the green one looks better!

[@xgzyzyx]

​@@EmperorPenguin1217 there is a reason why they're forgettable and it's bacuse scutes are pretty useless

[@kaydenispxlatid]

​@@xgzyzyx bro forgets turtle master potions exist.

[@LineOfThy]

What I find strange is the fact that the technical side of minecraft is always getting good updates that people want, like /tick and /random, both features that are really handy, and now the size and reach commands.

[@nerd_nato564]

It's like Mojang is trying to make the comparison between player-made modes and regular gameplay even more one-sided in favor of the player modes. Do they not realize that standard vanilla survival is basically the most boring way to play their game?

[@Ewokpilot65]

@@nerd_nato564 I think they realize the main appeal of their game is player made modes and that's the only reason it's even half as popular as it is

[@eboyicecream1305]

at the end of the day minecraft is a SANDBOX. i always play it with mods simply because thats the best way to experience it.

[@destroything]

Modes or mods?

[@nerd_nato564]

@@destroything Mods too, but in this case I meant modes since stuff like player reach and other commands are more helpful for custom modes, rather than mods.

[@RubberCrowy]

I feel like this is just like what (I assume) happened with the "monster of the ocean depths". That mob would drag you underwater, and after it failed the vote, we got magma blocks doing the same thing.

[@michaelelischer1565]

no, bubble columns were announced at the same minecon that the barnacle lost the vote in. bubble columns were not meant to replace it, they just happened to have similar functionalities. a better example would be the grindstone with the "great hunger", considering they actually do the exact same thing and were an update apart (great hunger would have come in 1.13, grindstone was added in 1.14)

[@lifedeather]

I still hope we get some variant of that underwater drag you down mob one day, I liked that concept a lot

[@iamaylacat3935]

@@michaelelischer1565 I feel the grindstone is a much more balanced implementation of the concept - there is much less chance involved in the process.

[@michaelelischer1565]

@@iamaylacat3935 yeah and imagine accidently having you're enchantments removed while fighting the great hunger. perssonally one of the few mobs I'm glad lost.

[@Thataswellwillpass]

Why do people want an underwater mob that drags you down, when they hate the drowned who breaks your boat with a trident. The Phantom is the most hated mob vote mob of all time yet say they want the water version?

[@jaythecoderx4623]

I wonder if they'll do similar things at some point for other mobs who lost the vote

[@rosegray4061]

I mean supposedly they're supposed to be added eventually??

[@Not_interestEd-]

Bold of you to assume Microsoft actually cares about the playerbase. Edit: We shame Microsoft because they make the executive decisions at Mojang. Mojang understands that the playerbase makes a game, not the rich guys hiring software devs. Microsoft, does not.

[@limon5kcubing]

​@@Not_interestEd- *Mojang

[@2khoursonhunter]

I wonder if they ever just put in all the mobs instead of doing thesee stupid votes They alreafy have them done why not put them in the game Shame

[@T8Videography]

They technically already have, look at the frog and the goat

[@Notllamalord]

The funny part is interact range was 100% just a hard coded number they made into a variable, it must have taken 3 minutes

[@knopfir]

mfs literally just removed the "const" from the variables code line

[@Saurygiel]

for fucking real, and it's not like they need the AI for the mob to be complex either so how is it not possible to add the whole mob? It wouldn't take longer than a week with a team.

[@brendolbreadwar2671]

99% of minecraft updates could be done in minutes to hours, (most updates exist in mods already anyway.) The modern gaming industry LOVES to put fluff time to get paid extra for doing nothing. Why does it take a year to add 1 mob when lego fortnite plans to add 25 in a month lmao? They are just lazy.

[@kingleoric4286]

I am pretty sure they did this as part of work task to make more things configurable, which makes it easier to modify things via commands and also to bind them to items. Then someone had the idea with the crab-item and then they held it back until after the mob vote. I guess they expected the crab to win, but they didnt rig it enough this time.

[@kureijisatsujinsha]

This happened before! The ocean mob from the first mob was supposed to drag you down but instead we got magma’s with that same feature. Grindstone does the same thing as another mob that lost too!

[@theroyalbuilder]

Yeah!! The blaze boss was clearly gonna give you shields but they were just added anyway

[@vanillevla3185]

@@theroyalbuilderNo, it was gonna be the first mob that uses shields, not give you it.

[@Kyrikrliy]

I'd still prefer if they were actual creatures instead of just block functions though, i want a maw as a pet

[@4203105]

The grindstone does not do the same as the great hunger. That was supposed to have quite a bit more functionality.

[@soulglitcher]

I guess they have to implement it into the game as a proof of concept before marketing it in the mob vote, so they just decide not to waste it and implement it.

[@Pyrotrainthing]

2:08 I feel this comment. I feel this comment so much. Turtles at least had Scutes AND their eggs were lures to hostile mobs. And I think if they add the Penguin and Crab anyway it's gonna be as "apology" for all the people upset with the Mob Vote this year.

[@Randomrainfrog]

I would love to see them added, would make up for a lot. Finally the Instagram comments can go back to normal

[@zombieoverlord8441]

AND potion of the turtle master

[@vernilane]

Instagram comments kinda suck no matter what it is tho everyone there are haters lol

[@Pyrotrainthing]

@@Randomrainfrog it’s a comments section on social media, when have you ever seen any social media without some comment sections filled with similar behavior?

[@teresar6348]

Also would love to see them go back and add things to past mobs where it makes in game parity sense. Like I agree with doing turtle wolf armor if you are gonna do armadillo. Give similar benefits to turtle helmets. Longer water breathing, maybe speed their swimming since wolves swim p slow. Hell add an armadillos helmet that does well against falling block damage specifically.

[@Oussuk]

I'm guessing that they don't want people to vote just for the mechanics of the mob anymore, honestly I think this is a better way to do it.

[@Rottot]

For real. A lot of people I knew who voted crab were exclusively voting on the mechanical use it had, which at that point, what they're really looking for is an item or block vote. Mobs are so much more than a resource or a tool. They add sounds and change the energy that builds the atmosphere of an environment, which to the vast majority of users who are casual players, is much more valuable. The function a mob brings is important, but it shouldn't be the *only* reason to pick a mob.

[@Jedai_Games]

​@@Rottotomg, a reasonable human being! You exist!

[@Andius_Augustus]

@@Rottot Everyone should see this.

[@FatCat-ov5kb]

@@Rottot i mean the crab is cooler looking than a brown armadilo its crab

[@EmperorPenguin1217]

@@Rottot No, the mobs do not bring atmosphere, and that is not valuable enough in a mob to justify adding it. No mob should go without a use

[@goobus_floobus]

As a datapack developer, im really excited that theyre continuing to add new attributes for us to edit!

[@miles820]

Does this new tool make a crab mob easier to add?

[@coledoe1030]

Heck yeah it does, it would be nigh impossible without it lol(at least with datapacks, would probably be easy with mods)@@miles820

[@goobus_floobus]

It would be relatively straightforward to add a crab claw item I think, just check if the player is holding a certain item and edit their attributes. I don't know if you could add a custom mob though, I've never tried anything like that before

[@darth3911]

@@miles820No it doesn’t, all it does is it makes adding the items similar to the crab claw easier to add in game.

[@coledoe1030]

There’s actually a retry cool tutorial by timber forge on how to add custom mobs@@goobus_floobus

[@dre4mwo0d]

weren't most of these functions in this year's april fools snapshot? i remember the size potions and i think step height and reach were also changeable with votes

[@justaguy2183]

I think the reach was only expandable with the “mad eye” command. And I think it was more of entities than blocks. So the block reach extension is of crabs

[@Tasorius]

Now you can be small enough to fit under half a block...

[@the_real_fiz2zy]

I kinda like this actually... April fools elements that people liked being added to real updates. If people like something you've already done, why not do it again, amr?

[@seard8442]

netherite stairs

[@EnheTook50Benadryl]

​@@seard8442weve got blackstone

[@relapsedpanda1081]

Did everyone forget that a few years ago they said “all votes are things we intended on adding eventually but the one voted in gets added first”

[@snaketail114]

I didn't.

[@logansmith2703]

That's for Biomes. Mob votes started with one that EXPLICITLY STATED that all not chosen would be never seen again.

[@Cieln0va]

Mojang forgot lmao. When was the last time you saw them mention the moobloom?

[@Kasperbjerby]

They should always add all three, no reason not to, the mob vote should stay, but it should only be "select the one you want to see first", the others get added afterwards Also.. The explosion should definitely scale with the creeper size

[@novemharrison4524]

This is due to marketing reasons you know microsoft likes mojang to be profitable for them

[@michaelelischer1565]

@@novemharrison4524 maybe it would be more marketable to actually listen to the community?

[@Alicemayobi]

​​@@michaelelischer1565weirdly no not at all because sadly most communities are extremely bad at design the minecraft community is one for example an the amount of people who are desperate for nerfing the elytra and mending don't understand that being more tedious isn't better game design.

[@Notyouraveragegal69]

⁠@@Alicemayobiyes it is, nerfing Mending is good game design, and if you don’t understand that then you’re just fucking stupid…

[@EmperorPenguin1217]

@@Alicemayobi To be fair elytras and mending need to be nerfed, and the too expensive should be removed. There's no reason why mending should be so good and easily accessible, while elytras invalidate every single form of transportation

[@itsmehere1]

They could entirely fix the mob vote by just making a mob vote every 3-5 major updates, so whatever mob gets voted is added first then the other 2 are added in the 2 or so major updates after, so in term we would just be voting on which one we want sooner.

[@justaguy2183]

I think they might be doing that now considering that a dev said how negative the mob vote was received and the fact that they’re adding the armadillo *before* 1.21

[@Sivves]

They’re adding the mechanics and not the mobs, you probably don’t know about the bubble column and the grindstone

[@itsmehere1]

@@Sivves Yes, I do, and that's what they should be doing from now on and not just once or twice every few years.

[@michaelelischer1565]

@@Sivves the bubble column wasn't made with replacing a mob vote losers features in mind. it would have been added in the same update as the barnacle (assuming the barnacle would have won).

[@Other_Stuffs]

People would forget about the mob vote if it only happened once every 5 years

[@imaok10]

I feel like the mob vote should just determine which of the mobs gets added first, and the ones that lose just get added later, in the following major update. Like there are so many cool ideas that get thrown away for one reason or another, and most of the votes feel scuffed due to youtube influence, etc... so why not keep the stakes of a mob vote but still have the cool ideas of other mobs not be wasted?

[@cinfdef]

It would be so neat to make wolf armor out of turtle scute and have it give waterbreathing effects to dogs so that they don't drown! THAT would be a cool addition

[@imaybestupid2045]

Infusing Turtle Dog Armor with Magma Cream allows for 2 minute fre immunity would be nice

[@CringeCrab]

I like the idea of being able to fuse stuff with wolf armor at the same table you use to upgrade to netherite. Add some turtle scuts to give them 1 minute of water breathing, Magma cream for fire resistance, rabbit’s foot for feather falling, etc

[@RussellFlowers]

My thought is - Mojang expected the crab to win, so they started developing the extra reach. Then the crab didn't win, so they just included this as a setting.

[@deleting-e9p]

Maybe they had already finished it (since it is a very simple feature, probably just requires changing some numbers) but were unsure if people would like it. The crab didn't win but the idea still got positive reception. I was worried about it being added as a part of normal progression. I don't know if it's a good idea. But I am certainly happy about it being an easy-to-change setting. (And people will make it available in survival through modding.)

[@DeuxisWasTaken]

This would be plausible, but that extended reach is pretty much a single line of code change.* Somewhere in there they have a check "if the block the player is pointing at is 5 units away or closer, allow interaction". People have been changing it for fun for some time now. *(ok, it's a single line of code change when modifying the source code to increase/decrease it, to make it modifiable in-game they had to move it into a variable and implement a gamerule to modify that variable. That's still a couple of minutes of dev time, negligible effort even when considering all of the QA and corporate overhead.) They didn't need to start developing it before the results, they could've always had it ready in the next snapshot.

[@mivilkku]

There was already a difference between reach in creative and survival modes, so my guess is that it was pretty much implemented already, but now players can interact with the feature.

[@RussellFlowers]

@@mivilkku That's true, I forgot about that.

[@ian_m_b]

This was already in the 2023 april fools update.

[@WilmaRivera-h8t]

I feel like the interaction range is more to do with the fact you can scale up or down your character and it would be weird to be giant and only be able to interact w blocks and entities 5 blocks away from you, the same reason they added step height. Though it also makes a base for the crab if and when they decide to add the crab claw into the game

[@trbz_8745]

Wolf Armor should be found like Horse Armor, but in different loot pools that are currently useless like Pillager Outposts and Trail Ruins

[@spectralumbra1568]

Pillager outposts would be cool, and maybe add aggressive wolves tamed by pillagers that permanently have the angry wolf skin.

[@sporeham1674]

@@spectralumbra1568 I love that idea, but Mojang would say its "animal abuse" or something

[@PresidentRITSUTAINAKAakaToph]

@@sporeham1674leave it to mojang to claim “animal abuse” in a game where you can go to hell and fight demon skeletons 😂

[@CenoriaWoah]

@@PresidentRITSUTAINAKAakaToph And in a game where you could string animals up regardless. You’re also encouraged to enslave villagers.

[@justaguy2183]

@@sporeham1674When wolves were added, they never got any drop at all, not to mention that they attack you when hitting them, so I think they wouldn’t declare it “animal abuse” imo

[@wagyourtai1]

the funny thing is, the only reason 11 doesn't work because vanilla only lets you move 10 blocks in a tick

[@inaneinacheve]

Hey, you're maybe right

[@whoburntoast]

I love how Mojang is catching up with literally every mod maker! It's so cute 😊

[@knopfir]

the baby stopped coughing

[@skelleflame3519]

Should I engage? No I think I won’t. Nvm, here’s a few quotes from a Mojang developer that was a prior modder. Tweets and Reddit posts respectively have been deleted to my knowledge. (Twitter posts) - You're talking to a modder right now, was for 10 years before joining Mojang. Modding is not the same as being a developer on the bestselling game of all time. Working on Minecraft requires more than just making a mod. This isn't a valid argument, and modders hate it too. - One of the biggest things left out about the whole "why not add all 3" is also all the things the community WOULDN'T get because we'd be focusing on adding 2 extra mobs. Time isn't some free resource - if we worked on all of them, we'd have less in the core update. (Reddit Posts) •We work 8 hour shifts, thanks. Let's see, for any given feature this is the list of things to do: • Iterate on the design to make sure it fits wholistically in the full game • Make prototypes to validate the design and see if it is ACTUALLY fun • Rewrite the feature as production code in Java and Bedrock engines • These are two different engines with two different programming languages, Java and C++ • The engines also have different technology and different functionality, meaning things are not always easy to do 1-to-1 ports • This means developing the feature TWICE, requiring twice the amount of work any mod would have to do by default • Make sure it works on all platforms: PC, Xbox, Playstation, Switch, mobile devices, etc • Make sure it is PERFORMANT on all those platforms and is not causing regressions on any of them • Absolutely be sure that the code we are writing is clean, readable and will pass our quality threshold for getting merged into the codebase without making our future selves suffer • Put them through PR, get tech approval and sign-off that the feature is developed to the standards we are happy with • Sift through feedback from the community on the feature, iterate on the design based on the feedback and reimplement those changes twice on each platform • Go through all the newly tracked bugs that come in and fix them until the feature is at a quality that is not only expected of us but is acceptable based on our own quality standards And that is but a small slice of what it means to actually work on a feature in the game, l would not be able to give a real picture of what it's like on Twitter because it's a big process. Working on games is hard, and people unfortunately don't get a good insight to what it's like without working in the industry themselves. Hope this gives a small bit of insight. These quotes come from the account “@kingbdogz”

[@mothematic]

@@skelleflame3519 this argument is terrible thats why they were deleted lmao

[@skelleflame3519]

Just because he deleted them doesn’t mean the points he made never existed, just ignoring everything because he deleted it seems like an ignorant approach. What I think happened is that Mojang told him that it was an inappropriate post and would just make that community angrier with them, angry people don’t like hearing that they’re wrong a lot of the time so they didn’t want to shovel coal onto that fire.

[@mothematic]

@@skelleflame3519 im literally not ignoring it lmao. im saying the points were bad. most of them are just repeating the same thing but reworded so that it sounds different when it's not. i believe he realized how stupid the points were and thus he deleted the post.

[@terranostraworldbuilding8076]

An idea for wolf armor: Add both armadillo wolf armor and turtle wolf armor, where the armadillo armor is weaker (not strong enough for a creeper explosion) and the turtle armor is stronger (enough for a creeper) but slightly slows the dog down, as a bit of a reference to Potion of the Turtle Master. Neither is necessarily better, it's just a tradeoff, and gives more uses for turtle scutes.

[@Jedai_Games]

Or turtle armor is weaker, but speed up wolf in water. To be honest, I lost half of my wolfs while water traveling, because they was not fast enough to came with me in loading radius.

[@AtlasReburdened]

Slows the dog down?... Have you ever met a dog before?

[@MerlynMusicman]

More uses? Just dont farm them if you dont want them?

[@slimedserpent]

@@MerlynMusicman I don't think adding more uses to it is bad, people could still choose not to farm it in the end.

[@carbonatedphantom8388]

@@MerlynMusicman..you want them to remain useless? I swear these mojang bootlickers are on something

[@EpicPuffwing]

They knew the armadillo was gonna have controversy so they just added the crab claw for the crab fans 💀

[@arxcenecross7677]

Not enough, I wanted that little creatura waving at me

[@GALAXYFIVE]

As a crab fan I approve

[@GALAXYFIVE]

​@@arxcenecross7677same

[@SpookyLumi]

I love crab and Penguin

[@EpicPuffwing]

@@GALAXYFIVE I m a crab fan but I accepted the armadillo on its victory.. but now seeing the armadillo I’m a bit unsure now.

[@vahkiel1042]

I've been saying this for AGES now. the features from the mobs who lost are eventually added, at least most of the ones who actually had features. Just like: The Great hunger would remove enchantments - Grindstone was added The Depth monster would pull you down - Magma block new functionality who's to say we wouldn't get glowing signs from glow lichen instead of glow squids? or wolf armor from treasure chests? or sniffer flowers from archeology sites? or even elytra repairing through a totally different method!

[@Hashle337]

If they actually add a speed modifier for vehicles camman’s gonna go crazy

[@KiraiKatsuji]

but birches are still the worst

[@ubnominal]

I hope they purposely make vehicles faster EXCEPT Mine-carts

[@Coolguy_2491]

lol me too@@ubnominal

[@rexyjp1237]

​@@ubnominalif i was the boss at mojang i would do that just to troll tincan.

[@baratorealty591]

Camman's totally going to make a short about this.

[@stormerkromy988]

It seems like these were already being worked upon, they truly didn't know who would win so they started every feature.

[@leochangesnames]

It's also a part of the combat snapshots, so we could be heading there

[@serenityvalley2956]

So, it's almost as if they have that time and resources to add every mob, but choose to arbitrarily shoot themselves in the foot anyway and only add one. Thanks mojang/microsoft!

[@hhff8534]

@@serenityvalley2956 adding the mob itself requires additional work, this is just a quick simple mechanic to satisfy players who didn't get the crab.

[@CubeInspector]

​@@hhff8534it takes almost no time to implement a mob. The only bottleneck is art which has a whole year to work on it. It takes a day to get a mob working. They aren't coding them from scratch. The entire point of object oriented programming is to reuse code. Implementing mobs takes almost no time. It's why there's always a mod with the rejected mobs within a week. Youre making excuses for laziness.

[@bellslimes]

@@CubeInspectorGranted, they do need to worry about it working on every platform, and make it the same on everything, but even then, with Microsoft backing Mojang, it’s hard to not criticize them for taking forever just to add a few features. Trial chambers are more acceptable to take their time on, but a new mob that has one specific feature to it doesn’t take long at all 😢

[@stooberries]

This seems very reminiscent of a mod that I believe was called Pehkui, if I’m not mistaken. It’s cool to see ideas that are similar to ideas of the community being added in the official game!

[@mostlyxconfused]

that would be the mod! it's the mod that adds the core functionality of most origins in the origins mod, and the size change for immersive portals, and so on. Pretty much every mod that has some sort of size change feature is just utilizing pehkui to accomplish it instead of implementing it themselves. Pehkui is a very big and useful mod.

[@qwart22]

@@mostlyxconfusedpehkui is crying after this snapshot

[@irExron]

Woah i hope they add Turtle Wolf armour, it would be amazing to have a secondary armour progression, even if it's most wont use it, it promotes exploration so much

[@ChickadeeRose]

I mean, that would fit with that Mojang is calling 'The Adventure Update'

[@zixvirzjghamn737]

They could have it use the smithing table, and you'd upgrade the regular wolf armor with the template and a turtle shell, though I don't know if it would be useful since wolves don't go underwater. I guess it would be useful for preventing death.

[@Adir-Yosef]

or they should generalize the Scutes item drops, imagine if leather got this treatment.

[@EmperorPenguin1217]

Well yeah the wolf armor shoulve been made by turtles to begin with, no reason to separate two items that are different in looks only across two mobs

[@Adir-Yosef]

imagine if they did that to leather@@EmperorPenguin1217

[@nanardeurlambda]

3:26 "what is love? baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me, no more..."

[@SnugglyBaby]

4:17 you are indeed literally teleporting up, thats how stairs work in games sometimes, honorable mention, is slopes, sliding up a ramp is also how stairs work sometimes

[@liber2350]

To be honest this is gonna be really fun for minigames I feel, at least if they let us set it to whatever we want

[@mezm3z]

3:51 no more bedrock big salmon edition

[@mr.chlebek]

Phoenix: "i can trade with him realy far away" villager: huh? 5:12

[@foxthefox1594]

3:13 Giant enemy spider

[@communisthitler666]

Spot enemy spider

[@brycefilmzzz]

2:52 “dun dun dun dun Villager News”

[@The-kentucky-fried-one]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@m3galegend]

Now we must beg for all the scuffed mob votes in the past

[@spyderxx6309]

IF they give us all 3 mobs of this mob vote, then I wonder if they'll do the mob votes of christmas past

[@thecupofno]

Hopefully they add the iceologer and maybe the blaze boss. We NEED more aggressive mobs.

[@Plantwot]

Cult of the mobs

[@pauldelamarseille]

@@thecupofno So right

[@Plaguecoric]

@@thecupofnoabsolutely. and more bosses

[@ElPong07]

2:30 the disappointment in his voice 😭

[@Klassik_KT]

3:07 ayo 😅

[@sackzcottgames]

honestly i was worried, the difference between this and so called "crab has been added" is that one is a command for debug purposes or map making (or whatever is fun) and the crab was obtainable in survival. IF the crab was added then building reach could be extendable in survival without the use of cheats enabled (commands)

[@blllk8189]

Armor has a feature where when it is equipped you get +(whatever) armor, which is actually a general kind of attribute for each item. With a data pack and resource pack you could craft a crab claw which when equipped (held) you get the attribute of having extra reach

[@sackzcottgames]

@@blllk8189 oh so you're saying that with this new command you can program a new item that when held will use the new command to increase the block placing lenght by any amount? i mean if you look at it like that they technically did add the claw to the game, but i see it like they added an option for people who voted crab to have what they wanted which does make the mob vote kind of pointless true. but i think the vote was about the mob and the 3 features (it might actually just be the build extension command and we'll get nothing that resembles the penguin's function in any way) are gonna come anyways? but if someone uses a resource pack then what does it differ from someone using a mod to add all 3 mobs?

[@blllk8189]

@@sackzcottgames Yes, not really programming, but with command privilege you can generate an item that gives a player extra reach while in main/off-hand. And with a datapack, you can add a crafting recipe to this extra reach item. The difference between this and a mod being the ease of use and better compatibility with MC features. With a mod, you need a Fabric or Forge mod loader and it could require libraries and extra installations and you might as well add a custom launcher that handles your mods and... that's a lot of stuff compared to downloading a ZIP file to your world and it works.

[@sackzcottgames]

@@blllk8189 i see, thanks for an explanation

[@Evgenveg]

3:43 the disappointments

[@Krystalchan2009]

If I have to take a guess, the reason they added the interaction range was to make the scale mode less clunky. Mobs, including the player might be still raycasting from their look point if they are in range to interact with things. Which is why even being against the creeper didn't make it go boom initially.

[@frankflemming6150]

I like that they've added a feature that's similar to the crab and hope they add one similar to the penguin too. Even though phantoms are extremely annoying, one of the things that makes the first mob vote one of the less offensive ones to me is that all the mobs did end up getting "added" in some way. The kraken became bubble columns because of their ability to hold players down underwater The great hunger became the grindstone because of its disenchanting feature The armoured blaze became an updated nether (ok that one's a stretch, but it is one of the inspirations behind the nether update) If Mojang's gonna keep doing mob votes (which they really shouldn't at this stage), I'd rather see the winner get added and features similar to all of the rest get added later.

[@Gabriel-lh7gy]

We got the Hovering inferno trough the piglin brute. Harder version of a mob that is a miniboss for it's structure added due to lack of challenge

[@LugiDergX]

Yep. And I'm loving the way they approach things. People are just pissy over nothing and the vast majority of the Minecraft community shouts about it loudly themselves. We get the mob people voted for and then we get the features from the rest of them as other features in the game. In theory, that should satisfy majority of people. In reality, it does not because people love to whine.

[@MrBrineplays_]

The copper golem's ability to interact with redstone also got used for the breeze which can interact with more than just buttons but doors and trapdoors as well

[@torterra1826]

Raid Mojang

[@aetheriox463]

@nekoiscoolII of course, but as op said if mojang keep doing votes, this is the way they should do it. but preferably no more votes as they have the ability to add all of the stuff

[@jazangeles397]

>complain about not getting all 3 >get all 3 >complain more

[@bennittotheburrito9606]

We had to wait for no reason

[@ilexdiapason]

i think there's a difference between "adding the crab claw to vanilla survival" and "making this an editable feature with commands"

[@airyonbeck379]

This could be the first step to a surprise addition of the crab. They have to set up the function before they apply it to an item. Edit: I see what you mean, the title is kinda click bait.

[@Tasorius]

It's better, because they added more customization.

[@michaelelischer1565]

@@Tasorius you can't get it in a vanilla game though. it's not better, and tbh if the crab would have been added they probably would have added this command alongside it anyway.

[@Tasorius]

@@michaelelischer1565 Unless you just use commands in vanilla. I like to customize things with some commands and datapacks that make the game more fun. These commands add a lot to the game for me...

[@LineOfThy]

If you know about data packs, you know that this is wrong

[@henrystickminfan2]

3:31 me: *notices iron golem* also me a sonic frontiers player: giganto

[@DarknesTheTrailblazer]

cause I am un-de-fea-ta-ble .. im hanging out to the other siide

[@VanK782]

Mojang talked about not adding new items and instead adding functionality to existing ones, after which they proceeded to add a whole ass useless mob with another useless item. So instead of giving a use to the turtle shell or just making dog armor out of leather we now have a useless mob with a useless feature. And it can't even be dyed.

[@bronsonneill2944]

The difference is, the cab needs an item to place blocks farther away and could be obtained in survival, the new comand can only be used when cheets are enabled.

[@alexsiemers7898]

I imagine you could use a datapack to change the range based on the item you’re holding

[@Nuniixo]

Yeah just use a datapack

[@Casual-Yohoho-Enjoyer]

The real difference is that we don't have a crab. I want a pet crab!

[@Run2Seeun]

You can easily use any item as the claw now. Since block reach is an attribute, it can be applied to items

[@Vulpestry]

still not doable in a normal survival world @@Run2Seeun

[@AdeonWriter]

The mob vote is for which mob you want added. Adding the features of the other mobs is good - it means you can just vote on looks and not worry about the mechanics

[@magentamonster]

I remember seeing that someone criticised Mojang for tying mobs to features. They thought that Mojang should not announce specific features for the mob and just let people vote for their favourite animal. I think this may be similar, except that Mojang will still announce specific features for mobs, but will implement the rejected mobs' features anyway. At the same time, is this block reach thing available in survival? If not, maybe it makes a difference whether the crab is added. Does this mean that if the armadillo was rejected, some other material, like leather, gold, iron, diamond, netherite, or turtle shell, would be used for the wolf armour?

[@Rainbow0015]

Would be funny if they did this, and all the mobs were useless (like bats)

[@Monochrome2004]

@@magentamonster actually yea i think this might work best. just give us a blank slate and lets us vote off looks and never tie it to a mechanic. that's what i did with the allay anyways, it was just cute, i didnt even care about the mechanics

[@snaketail114]

3:57 yes a slab is 0.6 blocks high.

[@toonterraminegamer1234]

You can use the entity reach command to hit hostile enemies from afar and see how they react. I’ve seen a video of someone punching the warden from like 100 blocks away and the warden immediately started chasing them as if they weren’t blind.

[@jamwrightiam]

Tbh if I felt someone punch me with a 100 meter arm I'd probably start chasing them. There'd definitely be a path of destruction left by that thing

[@HappyMatt12345]

Honestly, I want to see them also add turtle wolf armor JUST so turtle scutes have a use other than crafting a glorified respiration helmet. They could even give the wolf the same abilities underwater that the turtle shell gives you and allow the wolf to swim under water with you. I'd like to see that!

[@leolen8029]

Imagine if one of the perks of the armadillo armor is that when the wolf got too low on health, it would curl up into a ball and get super high defense stats.

[@FusionCyborg]

Make the crafting 8 turtle scute surrounding wolf armor and that could work well.

[@blogdogs9462]

@@leolen8029 thats too much like a mod

[@dragonmage372]

You mean a totally epic war veteran helmet?

[@leolen8029]

@@blogdogs9462 I think it could work well in vanilla minecraft. Also, if the dog is rolled up, mobs wouldn't target it.

[@genghisdingus]

Someones gonna just program a carrot to give you reach extra reach when you hold it and rename it "crab claw"

[@E4uin0X]

2:19 I like it

[@crackedblack1410]

People saying Mojang should add all three Mojang adds all three People: 0:11

[@doctorhealsgood5456]

Mob vote apologists are dumb

[@lunondisposable5382]

I'm so glad they added the step height attribute, I always install a small mod just to do that. I like auto-jump _in theory,_ but the little extra up-down camera move from it is really annoying. In terms of the actual animals, there's no point in having a vote and not adding all 3. One mod I love is Friends & Foes, which adds in the losers of previous votes like copper golems and mooblooms. New creatures that aren't just animals really help flesh out the Minecraft world as a unique setting.

[@Kepler_2258]

Might make a fun hide and seek/tag thing with that extended reach

[@GPanimates]

I thought this was my comment

[@EaterOfGeese]

​@@GPanimates I thought that was you replying to yourself

[@wrawlerpersonal]

@@EaterOfGeese lol

[@Kepler_2258]

@@GPanimates lmao

[@Kepler_2258]

@@GPanimates nice pfp btw

[@siddharthgogoi6837]

1:12 the dog survived it's an appreciation good job mojang 😂at least you heard from him

[@DeuxisWasTaken]

Improved step height has been a feature of so many mods over pretty much the entire Minecraft modding history (seriously, I'm pretty sure it's older than Forge), so it was astounding when Mojang implemented autojump which was extremely crappy literal auto jump instead of improved step height. Nice to see them finally implement it properly… 10 years later? And only as an attribute? xD

[@softlysnowing3959]

um ackshually it was implemented as an attribute not a gamerule

[@DeuxisWasTaken]

@@softlysnowing3959 right, fixed

[@Mikemk_]

And the mods would always build it into their armors and usually not think to offer a way to disable it.

[@Incognito-rb4tz]

4:05 they added step assist

[@nopenopee2992]

Taking lethal damage should break the wolf armor on the dog

[@EEEZOE]

I think for the future mob votes they should do a meet your match kinda thing. So like if you vote for one mob that mob will be added first and the other ones later, it would make mob votes better as you don't only chose one mob.

[@shockmaster0792]

Except uh, meat your match never got around to doing that.

[@getaround1276]

@shockmaster0792 what are you talking about? The heavy update is right around the corner.

[@shockmaster0792]

@@getaround1276 oh right! Silly me ;P

[@Lukaurio]

4:41 extendo grip, Builders potion. Re-logic thought of this a long time ago. In all seriousness though, I think Minecraft is really gone downhill. I mean they barely add anything for a new update and anything they do add for a mob usually only has one crafting recipe or something linked to it. It's not really that interesting anymore. Especially for those of us that have been playing since alpha or Pocket Edition. playing for that long over and over just kind of gets boring after a while. I mean the same final boss has been in the game since whenever it came out, they really haven't added anything new to that and the warden doesn't drop Jack sh*t, that you can't already get with silk touch. Even mods of the new version suck. If I had to pick mods after 1.10 and mods from 1.6.4 to 1.8, I would pick the older ones. That was the prime age for modding, and honestly just better Minecraft in my opinion

[@theiceelemental820]

4:28 2001 a space Odessey

[@That0neDud]

1:24 They always gotta nerf the one they make more money from

[@LnmHive]

Or maybe they actually buffed the creeper

[@christopherbrowne839]

I liked the part where he checked back on that one specific crepper

[@DJ_BENDY]

0:28 Minecraft cursed addition 💀

[@ultmateragnarok8376]

This is exactly what the Glow Squid had happen. Glowing text on signs was a planned feature already, and was going to be achieved using glow lichen if another mob won, but since the squid did the feature was tacked onto it.

[@Gingerale434]

People complain when the mov vote doesn’t give them all three but also complain when they give them all three because it ‘isn’t a vote if you just give all the mobs anyway’ I legit don’t get people

[@michaelcarlton1484]

Custom adventure and game maps/worlds are going to have a lot of fun with these.

[@ManikFerret]

they threw the armadillo into 1.20 instead of 1.21 😭then gave us the crab ability out of spite

[@Ray-ii2kv]

I guess the real strategy is to vote for the thing you don't want in the game, as you're gonna get the other two options in a much more accessible way

[@Lorcout]

That doesn't make sense, I wanted iceologer but never got some kind of iceologer in a more accessible way. And for people who voted for rascal didn't get anything that looks like rascal in a more accessible way.

[@orokuzx]

More accessible? when it's via commands? You're not going to be able to use this in survival without cheats

[@widdershins-dv2wn]

@@orokuzx You think it's more accessible to always have to put a specific item into the players main hand every single time you want to change their reach?

[@rojastegulu]

@@widdershins-dv2wn when commands are by principle not accessible at all um yeah??

[@Tahcia]

​@@widdershins-dv2wnthat's like way more accessible yea idk how many ppl wanna play survival and also use commands

[@untournesol3793]

At the same time I’m happy, and questioning mojang

[@justaguy2183]

I’m just happy in general tbh, and more so because they added the scale command from April fools.

[@torterra1826]

Raid Mojang

[@ObliviousDog]

​@@justaguy2183 I really hope they add the transform feature too

[@justaguy2183]

@@torterra1826 What the hell is wrong with you? They’re literally doing what you want and now you want to do that?!

[@justaguy2183]

@@ObliviousDog I’m hopeful they add it too

[@NotKnafo]

we already have guessed that mojang will add the game mechanics from the mob votes in different forms but because its in commands it is not for survival

[@MichaelPohoreski]

0:43 _PhoenixSC Cursed Edition_ title screen LOL

[@keegandaurity304]

I feel like they should add Turtle wolf armor, but should make it more powerful. From what it seems, you can get Armadillo scutes relatively easily, while Turtle scutes require more of a process. Maybe the turtle armor could allow dogs to breathe and swim underwater? That'd be kinda cool

[@egbert5871]

The problem of it being better is no one will use the armadilo one, so the new mob would do nothing

[@aexxir]

That's like saying iron armour (and all other armours below it) are useless because diamond armour exists and is better@@egbert5871

[@wrightcember]

@@egbert5871i definitely still would. i almost never find turtles in my worlds, even if i go looking for them 😭 im almost always in a savannah tho

[@steveburger01]

​@@egbert5871It does just about nothing anyways.

[@TheGuyWhoIsSitting]

@@egbert5871so it’s like leather armor? Gold has a single use case, iron is more plentiful, diamonds are rarer and with recent changes Netherite is much more time consuming to obtain. But outside of finding an armor piece already crafted there’s not much reason to use leather armor. Gold armor breaks quickly as well but it helps in the nether. I’m not even sure if you can take the wolf armor off. Horse armor is in a similar situation but you can’t craft it. Although I almost never see anyone use horses when the elytra exists. There are so many things in the game almost no one uses. Even with the armadillo wolves are still not very useful. They go to their doom like Neuro sama heading into the warm embrace of lava. But they can deter skeletons if they’re not actively targeting you. Same with cats and creepers. Granted I don’t understand the point of cats teleporting to you when you get damaged. Due to mechanics like that I don’t bother with wolves or cats. They just end up getting attacked and then you’re left with nothing. Or the wolves love to jump into you attacking something. Maybe if their AI was better, or they gained some ability to at least avoid lava and getting in front of the player when they’re not sitting.

[@julianbaxter2403]

Oh dear. I spent so long working on my Ice Rail. The Thought that the Penguin could take that away is terrifying.

[@andredominguez3199]

I mean it looks like the crab feature is only available for commands so far, so the Armadillo is the only one that made it to survival Minecraft as of now.

[@raechelhinojosa4765]

1:19 "I love roblox" dude same

[@abdurehmanmalik2980]

3:50 Finally: Java Big Salmon

[@greendino36]

'Creating confusion and anger for no reason' - Mojang

[@LineOfThy]

Also know as Engagement

[@McSkripter]

I KNEW IT WAS SO DUMB FOR THE ONLY TEST OF THE WOLF ARMOR TO BE ON BEDROCK AND I CALLED THIS EXACT THING

[@Kallyn]

If you retexture a sword to be a gun and set your reach to maximum you can add guns to the game, idk how that would work with bullets though

[@dawntreader1247]

that’s- that’s a crossbow

[@Kallyn]

@@dawntreader1247 yeah BUT the bullets don't curve in the air

[@lpmatthews7387]

​@@Kallyn they do. Just less

[@Kallyn]

@@lpmatthews7387 what I'm getting at is that with extended reach there is no curve and the bullet gets there immediately, which is more like an actual gun than a crossbow

[@samvedkulkarni9840]

Even Mojang doesn't know what it is doing anymore

[@DacroyleYT]

2:44 PEHKUI IN VANILLA MINECRAFT IS REAL

[@NotKeanTLP]

they just didnt have the budget to make the mobs so they made them attributes instead

[@minors290]

bro their budget is several million. mojang is just lazy

[@atleyf3500]

​@@minors290I really don't think lazyness is the problem. If they wanted they could implement every mob without too much afford. The reason they're not doing it is for engagement. I want to ask a question: what is the mob vote even for? No one really likes it so why keep it around? The answer is pretty simple: to keep the game in the public consciousness by sparking discurse. This is the main purpose of the mob vote. So adding the other mobs anyway would decrease the legitimacy of the mob vote making people less invested, therefore lowering engament and possibly revenue. The current toxicity of the minecraft community is simply a result of this marketing decision

[@LineOfThy]

No they definitely have the budget to do that lmao

[@LineOfThy]

@@minors290not how companies work. if company want profit, company no lazy.

[@LineOfThy]

@@atleyf3500exactly! Everything they’ve been doing lately is just to squeeze as much engagement out of this godforsaken community.

[@SJrad]

These changes are insane and will give map and minigame makers so much power it’s great

[@RedWolfGG21]

I'm surprised the dude was mad and said "what was the point of the mob vote" when we all literally CRIED TO ADD ALL

[@donotleaveme3868]

mojang doing mojang things

[@dmdkfrfbrfb]

Can you make yourself smaller? 2:57

[@mathdaboi]

Yes you can

[@CoolJosh3k]

Just changing a number (the ray cast, vector length) is much simpler than adding a whole new mob.

[@LineOfThy]

No they’re both pretty simple.

[@K-Sha1]

That one dev's comment about not having enough development time to add all 3 is really aging like milk right now.

[@EmperorPenguin1217]

It always aged like milk, the argument was dead on arrival ever since minecraft was owned by a multibillion dollar company

[@K-Sha1]

@@EmperorPenguin1217 too damn true but it’s hilarious seeing evidence manifest that shows exactly how bull that excuse was

[@LineOfThy]

@@EmperorPenguin1217I don’t think you realize this, but money can’t buy time

[@LineOfThy]

@@K-Sha1 that’s not evidence

[@TheSultan1470]

​@@EmperorPenguin1217 Wow, dumb comment

[@Shady_br]

Commands don't count. I can give my dog resistance effect instead of armor so the function need to come from an in game mob

[@kaizoutales]

Fr it's not the same in any shape or form

[@Gavmac6]

this is EXACTLY what you guys wanted bruh

[@Fireball006]

If block breaking range is set to zero I wonder if you can still break blocks if you were trapped in something like sand that is covering your head

[@freakklomp]

i dont think so since there is no reach at all.

[@mooredaxon]

So basically mojang has proven its not about them being too lazy to add the other two. Its worse. They simply want to brew conflicts in the community, AND make the game more tedious by making some features require tedious mechanics (i will likely never bring a brush to any biome with an armadillo unless i actively want wolf armor)

[@Dieaconus]

So true, and honestly I'm not ever gonna go out of my way to get wolf armour when it still won't save a wolf from an accidental death beyond my control

[@BenjaminPan-q7v]

if you go to the start of this video and keep pressing the left arrow key, you can make a musical

[@SupertonicLady]

0:53 piamond dickaxe

[@razorwolf2758]

XD