Physical Media isn’t dying!

[@Harjawaldar]

People just make the dramatic title "physical media is dying" because it gets clicks, and then they just end up saying it's a niche market now.

[@MoviePalaceOfBlood]

Slow death, revenue decreases every year, prices are going up, and number of people collecting decreasing. It's certainly not growing.

[@paulrose319]

🤗happy new year Jamie🥳

[@garrypeak4277]

I think physical media is far from dying. For collectors, it’s almost a golden era. You’ve just got to look at the number of releases each month. The biggest change is they are disappearing from brick & mortar stores, and are now almost exclusively bought online.

[@0fficalHellfire]

Great video Jamie, while it might not be as popular anymore. It is very much still alive 😊

[@dravenlee4473]

You could view it as dying but I think ultimately it's just going to back to what it always was - for the diehards/collectors. People think it's dying because of DVD and CD. Both formats were an anomaly. People weren't collectors and all of the sudden stopped. Those formats just happened to be the easiest and cheapest way for people to get their movies and music. Now for most people, that's streaming. It inflated the numbers of people owning physical media. It will always be around as long as there are enough of us out there buying it. We are basically the vinyl collectors of movies.

[@ramandeepsekhon-nn6ps]

Jamie are touchstone coming to 4k anytime.

[@JamieToomeyPresents]

Touchstone is owned by Disney, so if they do, it’ll likely be done through the Sony deal, however I can’t see it happening. It’s more likely that a boutique label would license and release certain titles, perhaps a Criterion or Arrow video.

[@ramandeepsekhon-nn6ps]

@ Jamie I would love to see Hidalgo on Arrow …

[@r6covertops]

Do you think Blu-rays might be gone, that the studios and the boutique labels will only come out with DVD and 4K as time goes. Because for Transformer One there is NO U.S. Blu-ray/DVD combo. There is only 4K/Blu-ray combo and DVD, IF anyone wants a Blu-ray or Blu-ray/DVD combo they have to buy a non U.S. one. Will people with a Blu-ray player have to upgrade to 4K?

[@trevormaurer3684]

While I will support Physical media with the odd purchase in my Life spending on Streaming has overtaken my budget. I cannot justify one off spending on a series or movie that may sit on my shelf for quite a while and a Happy New Year to You

[@Sixma-ej5vp]

You can say that physical media is never going away. However, the magic of walking into a store, browsing through a vast collection of movies and TV shows, and buying a physical copy is fading away.

[@michaeldietz2648]

I would say physical media is gonna easily be around for another 10 years. There are a lot of people that are in my age range that buy physical movies. I’m 45 but unfortunately I don’t think it’s gonna last past 10 more years because eventually people around my age are gonna stop collecting and it doesn’t seem like the younger generation has interest in collecting there are some but it’s my new market. Unless these movie studios change their ways and start educating people on how much battle, physical media and streaming it’s gonna disappear after my generation is gone. The thing to me that’s insane is why aren’t these movie Studios pushing physical media it benefits them. Movies made them more money when they were being sold physically instead of shoved onto streaming..

[@GenX_in_the_wild]

All these old titles that are now coming out on 4k, you can buy for 2 euros on Blu-ray.. It is a massive cash grab for the studios..

[@LordDementus1987]

And often the 4K restorations are just upscales or are poorly done. I have seen very few 4K restorations that take the time to pull original camera negatives, restore original audio tracks and give us that. A lot of times they are not doing this (just reusing previous scans) and I HATE the color revisionism on a lot of these. Then they gaslight about how the Blu-ray was "incorrect." Yet you still charged me $25-30 when that came out, and I should pay again even though that version isn't correct? Just say no.

[@GenX_in_the_wild]

@@LordDementus1987 Exactly..

[@Horror_Collector4Life]

@@LordDementus1987 Which is why I stick with my DVD and Bluray because I just don't have the nerve to buy the same films that I've had for years and that are still OK if you're not an absolute tech freak.

[@Horror_Collector4Life]

@GenX_in_the_wild I can only agree

[@Horror_Collector4Life]

The Collector Community needs to stop making statements like this on KZbin because physical media doesn't just die overnight, such nonsense if you ask me, instead of getting to grips with your hobby and being happy about it, but no, we have to panic out of boredom because that's all it is. Bluray players from LG were never the first choice to me if you wanted something really good then Sony and Panasonic are the better choice.

[@AlSumait]

I agree, you can say the same thing about Samsung players. Anyone who truly cares about quality would know better. Why would you buy physical media if quality isn’t a priority to you? It’s an expensive hobby for a reason.

[@estevaofreitas9071]

yeah.....I don't know about that, sure Sony is the owner of Bluray, maybe they wont stop releasing physical media any time soon because they make money out of it, but in a general aspect of physical media of other publisher and companies you can already feel the scarse of games and movies in your local retailers like I never seen before, at least where I live. If I had to guess I would give it less than a decade untill we wont find any physical midia when it comes to music, movies and video games.

[@LordDementus1987]

I disagree. It is dying outside of collectors. No one is going to go out and pay $50 to upgrade Kill Bill if they already have the DVD or Blu-rays. 4K Blu-rays and players are still priced out of range where most people just don't care.

[@KipKil1igan]

no its not. collectors alone arent holding up the entire retail market. majority of physical media enjoyers dont even have a standalone player at all, most watch it on their consoles. my local Jb Hi Fi has 8 long rows full of 4k, blu ray and DVD it wouldnt make financial sense for them to keep it that large if there was no demand.

[@LordDementus1987]

@@KipKil1igan When I can go get a movie that has been out for three weeks for $9.99 on Vudu in 4K UHD, not have to deal with long shipping times, not have to deal with bad pressings because the Mexican factory can't get QC fixed, and be able to watch it anywhere; yeah it's kind of dead for me. I have around 1,300 movies (mostly on Blu-ray, a couple of 4Ks, a few DVDs). So don't get me wrong, the quality is often better with a disc. But it's close. And yeah, yeah, they could take it away. Guess what? All it would take is a firmware update to brick every Blu-ray player out there. Samsung did it to theirs and couldn't fix it. I just ran out of room for stuff too. I really enjoy the convenience. I can't take it with me when I'm dead.

[@MoviePalaceOfBlood]

​@KipKil1igan yes it is, revenue is down every year, definition of a shrinking market. I'm a collector but this is the truth.

[@RidleyCinema]

Lets just say even for argument sake if modern new physical media releases stopped all together and the market died physical media in general aint going anywhere. There a market still for VHS and Laserdisc, if studios decided to never produce another title for DVD, blu ray or 4K the amount of near endless titles that alreadt exist on many many formats would be enough to leave any collector content. Never being able to get a certain title on a newer format would stink but previous releases are more than plentiful, one downside would be physical media collectors would just have to go out of their way to build a digital collection for newer releases.

[@KipKil1igan]

Physical media KZbinrs saying media is dying is the same as KZbin doomsday preppers saying the world is ending tomorrow every day for the last 5 years, it gets them doomer views with their target audience.

[@GenX_in_the_wild]

Exactly.. and Doomsday Preppers tell everyone why the should get those 10 most important stock pile items, and so do collectors.. haha

[@KipKil1igan]

@GenX_in_the_wild exactly. "Get this before its gone" ive heard that a billion times

[@TheAmericanPyschoPatBateman]

Physical media is dying in the sense most major retailers aren't currently carrying and the prices are insane. $50 for one 4k is becoming way to common and absolutely insane price. I'd buy new release 4ks for $20-$25 at best buy all the time a few years ago.

[@AlSumait]

This whole topic of physical media is dying that’s been going on for years on youtube, just has to stop at this point. It’s getting old at this point. It’s not going anywhere anytime soon. It’s these ignorant people with channels who read one headline off the internet from other youtube channels or articles, and then goes off in making their own ten minute video yapping about “the state of physical media” as if they know better and keep wasting people’s time just for clicks.

[@Agent-mb1xx]

I got shafted by starting to collect 4K bluray, many of them are BD-100 discs, these are not compatible with Xbox One X/S, PS5 and Series X machines Now I understand why the PS4 Pro was not a 4K BR player

[@MoviePalaceOfBlood]

What? I've never had an issue with my series X playing ANY 4k disc.

[@LordDementus1987]

they’re compatible. the discs are just manufactured poorly.

[@michaeldietz2648]

Stop lying there is no issue with the PS5 or Xbox series X playing 4K Blu-ray. Maybe you’re putting in your disc upside down and you don’t know what you’re doing. We could believe that one of your game consoles might unfortunately be defected but both of them get out of here. I use both and the PS5 is more reliable than my standard 4K Blu-ray player it has NEVER froze or skipped once and I’ve watched probably 100 different 4K Blu-ray disc on it.

[@isayzhitl]

Im still using my ps5 as my blu ray player and im happy with it. Its just hard for me to justify the cost of upgrading my tv and player to gain dolby vision and a nice oled panel when my current set up works well.

[@Agent-mb1xx]

can you watch BD-100 movies? Many on reddit say no. My One X doesn't work with BD-100 format. Can't watch Zack Snyder's JL in 4K

[@BitcoinTo150K]

Unpopular opinion but you should buy the oled first we're watching movies so screen is #1

[@logandockery1512]

Hey Jamie is Philips still making DVD/Blu Ray players these days or have they pulled out of the market in recent years too or did Philips ever make DVD/Blu Ray players in the first place

[@vanstraelend]

Campea should do his homework, seems to have no clue of what he is talking!!

[@Frostbite351]

Is this an American thing. Americans never really value anything. Obsessed with streaming instead of preservation of films, thankfully it's different here in England and Europe.

[@caribmi6247]

You can't speak for all Americans. Preservation is very important to me and others that I know, so the stereotype isn't necessary. We're all individuals

[@fullspectrumdominanc]

You’re in denial bro the signs are there everywhere it’s slowly shrinking like games I think it’ll be like limited run games but with movies .

[@GenX_in_the_wild]

It is just a hype click bait headline 🙂But I love it.. Personally I wonder when physical media will hit rock bottom.. Because after that, any increase will be positive news, and it might be a slow way back up and more positive headlines..