Piacenza 3 & wrap

[@TheJessennr]

I agree that BAR does not require any adherence to linear doctrine. It also has command rules that that are comparatively basic. On the whole, it’s much more about managing individual battalions than commanding an army. So I’ve been suckered into buying three of them. Still, please don’t tell me Banish All Their Fears is the best in the field. That’s more of a request than a demand.

[@calandale]

From what I see, it's the best for me, presuming certain changes I outlined as feasible; I really like what it abstracts. The clunky movement rules to this one have me convinced that I don't want to cope with what's involved with linear warfare. The Berg games are basically crap - might as well be nappy period. I too bought too many BAR games. Maybe I can refit them somehow, and make them more linear in spirit. And maybe with more space to deploy, I won't mind as much.

[@TheJessennr]

@@calandale I feel that the BATF makes linear warfare look like WWI. I know there shouldn’t be big sweeping maneuvers in this era, but it looks almost like the combat was entirely attritional. I don’t think it works for battles smaller than 50,000 men per side, and I don’t think it would even work for big battles with some movement (Oudenarde, for instance). It has gone to the extreme of too much rigidity, using systems (the wing boundaries in particular) that aren’t reflective of anything that ever entered the mind of a battlefield commander of the era.

[@calandale]

Wing boundaries NEED to be movable in BatF. I came pretty close to a reasonable system by just replacing them with little movable markers (ala 1914 series). The formations in this game feel too bouncy to me.

[@robertholmstrom7394]

For the GMT sale, I got Thunder in the East, because I don't really own an Eastern Front game. And waffles between Banish and Julius Caesar Deluxe. I chose Julius deluxe but am slightly regretful.

[@calandale]

I thought briefly about TitE, just because it's Chadwick...but I've plenty of WWII stuff - way more than I want.

[@kenx8176]

Do you want to say more in your review about the difficulties in coordinating the moves of different units? I'm not sure whether you are saying that it is too difficult or that it is difficult in the wrong way.

[@calandale]

I think it's about right actually - and I just don't like it.

[@terry7907]

“It’s really not that horrible”. BGG comment?