Are These Music Theory Rules Even Necessary? 🎹🤔

[@PianoteOfficial]

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[@TheNoobVishu]

Please Help Me I Play On SA 77 Small Casio Piano . I Am 14 Years Old I Have Learn Arpeggios , I play with Both Hand . I can't afford A Piano Because it is expensive

[@ryno6101]

Started laughing so hard when Lisa ate the chips had to pause 😂

[@pajeeper420]

Slurs vs ties. You can't slur two identical consecutive tones. You can't tie two different consecutive tones. It's a tie if it's between the same notes, and a slur if between different notes.

[@RexTorres]

This is how I've always thought about them... Until I saw this video. I got confused. lol.

[@evanwilson2214]

Double flats/sharps are also useful for reading chords. Take a G flat major chord, for example. It's made of G flat, B flat, and D flat. What if you wanted to make it minor? You could write G flat, A natural, D flat, but then its "shape" could be mistaken for a G flat sus2 chord. Using B double-flat makes it clear that this is a triad with the third lowered a semitone.

[@BAD_879]

I'll come back to this once I studied my chords..

[@harrisfrankou2368]

It's Fsharp minor but its ok for a quick chord sub.

[@ksmkeys]

Exactly!!! 🤘🏾🤘🏾 Enharmonic equivalence for the nerds! 🤣

[@evanwilson2214]

@@harrisfrankou2368 I was thinking if you happened to be in a key composed of flats it wouldn't look right to have a bunch of sharps suddenly. Especially if you're just temporarily switching modes. I guess that's what you meant by "chord sub". I'm not too advanced in theory myself. I was just using a hypothetical example.

[@harrisfrankou2368]

yeah that was taught at MIT in Hollywood when I was there. It was subjective to the teachers in classes where we'd passed theory, but many gave examples in certain Keys, especially say playing in B major ..close to E major but as you say a chord change here up a fourth or down two frets for a "Mixolydian vibe". Like you said in B major and then going G flat is weird...to the eye. As well say your throwing in an odd E chord before you were in B major and its nuts. That's why at MIT they Taught enharmonically Gb/F#

[@SuddenUpdraft]

What is the difference between a slur and legato? Also, it’s never too late to start piano. I began at 65 after 30 years and I’m having a blast.

[@ScottsSynthStuff]

7:40 also important if you're playing in an ensemble - you don't want each musician playing their "own interpretation" of expressiveness. You need everyone playing the same, as the composer intended - which is why we need the notation that makes that clear.

[@PianoteOfficial]

good call on that one!

[@andreasvandieaarde]

I think there should always be room for discussion of interpretation so as to unify the performance in a way that works for everyone - this would in turn negate the need for fancy nigh-contradictory markings because at the end of the day, it seems a lot of classical composers for example would've wanted their music to be freely interpreted and had performers' touch applied to it anyway.

[@d.l.loonabide9981]

Yes, but then there's usually a conductor or group leader who decides.

[@user-bo4jv1xb9u]

I find the first rule very important actually. In more complicated rhythms or time signatures it helps to understand the rhythm and to see were is each beat

[@tahneejuryn]

Came here to write this

[@ouranacoyneouganza9513]

Great lesson. Thank you. Fun to learn music theory.

[@viennapalace]

As a recovering sax player, I've had more than one encounter with both double flats & double sharps & I've got to say, they actually make sense when you have to deal with them all the time. As for the subtleties of the staccato, that has caused more arguments than anything else I can think of among woodwind players!

[@beautyintheskies]

I think she knew the reasons why. She was just being facetious for entertainment purposes- playing the role of the petulant child.

[@muktachikerur7439]

I really love the video ♥️♥️ U should do more music debate type videos they r fun to watch but actually help understand difficult stuff better in such an entertaining way

[@PianoteOfficial]

noted!!

[@theirmom4723]

Double sharp and double flats...I hated them. I always wondered why not just use the notation with a natural sign?.

[@PianoteOfficial]

because ................ notation!

[@richardlehoux]

Very fun interaction. I would've liked to hear the difference between the types of staccato.

[@MissCraig]

I am so glad you explained the double flat and double sharps

[@philipmcniel4908]

I think slurs vs. ties make more sense when you realize that the Western notation system was not originally invented for piano music. It predated the piano, and was originally used to notate vocal music, and then music for wind instruments and bowed string instruments. The "big picture" was that the curved line we're talking about--the one that denotes a slur or a tie--simply meant to keep bowing or blowing. In other words, it meant to change notes on a wind instrument by changing which holes you were covering without stopping blowing in between, or change notes on a string instrument by putting down or pulling off a finger without stopping the bow. For singers, it meant to change which pitch you were singing while your voice was still sounding. As you can see, there's no real difference between a slur or a tie when you're, say, blowing on a flute: A curved line between two different notes means to move from one to the other while blowing, and a curved line between two notes of the same pitch means to play one and then the other without stopping blowing...which just sounds like playing one note longer.

[@philipmcniel4908]

As for the different staccato notations, I'm no violinist, but I thought those were different ways of physically playing a bowstroke on the violin.

[@philipmcniel4908]

p.s. The double-sharps and double-flats may make it harder to sight-read on piano, but they make it easier to sight-sing. You do "hear" that F-double-sharp as a raised "Do" rather than a lowered "Re" (in movable-do solfege), so if you're sight-singing an F# major scale and want to throw in that chromatic note between Do and Re (or you're sight-singing a choir part in F# major that contains the third of a V/ii chord*), that F-space is where you'll instinctively expect to see that notehead. *Or if you're just sight-singing a piece in G# minor that uses the melodic or harmonic minor scale, and therefore raises the note that's in the F-space, which would probably be a more common example of where you'd see an F-double-sharp in choir music.

[@Bigfoot_Boogaloo]

Haven't even finished the video yet but got so excited that Lisa said there needs to be a logical reason why not just because that's the rule!

[@godschild36525]

I use tri tones a lot when I’m playing gospel. It’s one of the foundations of that style to play it in the right hand.

[@PianoteOfficial]

sounds heavenly

[@jcf20010]

Ties and Slurs don't look the same. The Slur covers a range of notes and a Tie connects adjacent notes.

[@PianoteOfficial]

good distinction!

[@stephenbayer09]

I was so lucky to go to a school that had a really good music program and knowing that schools like the one in my hometown have cut there music program. I'm kinda glad I decided to go to a school 3 hours away from my town because a music program mutch less a good music program is something a lot of kids won't get. So I consider myself very lucky.

[@ScottsSynthStuff]

re double sharps/flats: I don't care if the notation is "proper" in order to keep it within the scale or not. When I'm reading the music and my brain is interpreting what it sees and translating that to playing it, adding an extra "calculation" step when I see a double sharp means it slows me down and makes it harder. When I see a F with a double sharp, I have to think, "ok, is that a G? Wait, is there an F# in the key signature?" whereas if I just see a G natural, I don't have to think at all, I don't even care what the key signature is, I just play the G. Simple. Sometimes old rules are counterproductive, even if they are "correct."

[@PianoteOfficial]

exactly why we made this video!

[@allgood6760]

"" Please don't eat in my classroom" LOL 👍🇳🇿

[@davidojimadu5122]

Thanks for this video, I learnt a lot today

[@ilia7451]

i like how you make story . this is a luv to watch video . thanks

[@PianoteOfficial]

thanks for being here and for the kind words :)

[@RobertShaverOfAustin]

This video isn't about music theory, it's about music notation. First I'd like to say that I think that there must be a better way to notate music. I've said this about many software application interfaces: *no matter how bad the interface is, humans have the flexibility to accommodate it.* I can not read music but I can decode it but it's like decoding a secret message.

[@jasonking7240]

Agreed. Fun video, but this is a music notation video. not a music theory video.

[@RobertShaverOfAustin]

@@jasonking7240 Yes, I like the playful attitude. Learning can and should be fun.

[@andreasvandieaarde]

I think it makes sense to say that music notation generally comes under music theory. You don't learn about music notation separately from music theory, that seems semantic to me.

[@kittyfruitloop8264]

THANK YOU!!! I really need this episode! I'm a late bloomer, though I've had a yr in piano as a 9yr old with an extremely conventional teacher that sucked the fun out of learning, YEARS later I picked up piano 7yrs ago and also this pipe organ a year or so ago. I feel like a 40+ prodigy. People don't even know I'm a newb. Music theory is something I'm missing so THANK YOU! Although by serendipity I've figured out how to turn any hymn into a minor key (it 's about the root.note! ) I feel lost when speaking to other musicians!

[@SynthApprentice]

I agree, all the different forms of staccato are splitting hairs. However, to me, one of the biggest strengths of standard notation is that it can be both precise and comprehensive in the information that it conveys. That sort of depth of information isn't always necessary, and sometimes it's better to sacrifice detail in favor of legibility, but that depends on the musician's understanding of the music. For example, I could scribble out tablature for the guitar riff to Blitzkrieg Bop on the back of an envelope, and even leave out bar lines. If I handed that to any punk guitarist, they would immediately understand that it's supposed to be played in a loud, rapid eighth note rhythm. If I gave the same paper to a flamenco guitarist that's never heard punk rock in her life, she would have no clue how to play it. She may end up trying to play it as a delicate waltz, because there's nothing to tell her that it's 4/4 played at (ff) throughout.

[@vanessawestmoreland6894]

Yep, double sharps and double flats! I've been taking lessons for just 10 months and I love it regardless of confusing music theory rules 😁 You have supplemented my lessons beautifully, thank you! Vanessa~

[@The_cool_Savon_kids]

The double flats and double sharps get me every time they definitely should be taken off the rule book!

[@unclemick-synths]

It's important to differentiate music _notation_ from music _theory_ because they're not the same thing. Notation can have rules because it is a communication method. Music theory (e.g. circle of fifths) is information, not rules.

[@dianasharpe9484]

Yes, I was disappointed it wasn’t about music theory, which I love.

[@andreasvandieaarde]

I kinda see what you mean, though it often gets connected together to mean the same thing (in my experience) and therefore both are often referred to under the same umbrella term of music theory. (Western music theory.) I think that makes sense, notation can be considered part of music theory because it technically comes under the (fake) rules of the theory in general. I think it's a bit semantic to use an example like the circle of fifths as theory, whereas the usage of a tie vs slur somehow doesn't come under that.

[@unclemick-synths]

@@andreasvandieaarde as a predominantly ear player things like the circle of fifths inform my playing. Notation merely directs my playing when I'm reading sheet music.

[@d.l.loonabide9981]

Spot on. The language used in music is extremely silly. The system it attempts to describe is logical.

[@d.l.loonabide9981]

I read notation in school band for seven years. I knew zero music theory the entire time. I didn't even know what keys were.

[@ericksanchez2496]

We need more of these!! 👍🏼

[@lawrencetaylor4101]

I think it was Jacob Collier that said "F The Rules". But Rick Beato said that his parents were both music professors, he had attended a public university for music theory, and had also attended Berkely or Julliard, and had that experience under his treble clef. So he could say what he said.

[@barbaralawrence6226]

This is awesome! So much fun!

[@d.l.loonabide9981]

The term "invisible bar line" isn't even clearly explained. The debate seems to be can we write a half not in the middle of the bar or not. The half note in the middle is simpler, therefore honors the principle of Occam's razor.

[@theDubleD]

I call the tritone an augmented 4th or diminished 5th, but sharp/flat is shorter in contrast to Major/minor intervals and communication. (taught myself music theory with guitar and youtube, i don't know how to read notes/sheet music, but i do know the chromatic scale, all of the Major modes, intervals, chords and apply it to guitar/piano)

[@simoneastwoodnz]

This guy needs to read Behind Bars. Not hiding the middle of the bar is indeed a rule, but the example he gives is an important and well-known exception to that rule.

[@tahneejuryn]

Complaining about slurs and ties looking the same is like complaining that the word 'second' (as in seconds on a clock) and 'second' (as in 2nd place) are the same word. If you understand the language, you won't get confused because you'll understand which one the speaker means in the context of the sentence.

[@Reubs1]

The invisible bar line rule is essential for syncopated rhythms

[@PianoteOfficial]

yes!! good call

[@jayveep5237]

Hi guys, y’all make learning sounds so much fun...yup, Lisa. I feel u when it comes to TIES & SLURS. Nom nom 🍫🍬🍩

[@d.l.loonabide9981]

Drummers read rhythms the same way anyone else does.

[@FlyingPetschman]

👌thank you ... fun to watch and i guess i learned somenthing 🐻

[@debdebwwjd]

Loved this. Lisa you're so cute. Any chance to give visual examples of the different staccato especially the last one 😊

The chips. Lol.

[@syberyah]

"But why would you play something that sounds terrible?" I can tell Lisa doesn't play jazz XD

[@indirajayaraman4758]

Lovely way to explain music theory!

[@d.l.loonabide9981]

Double flats and sharps are easy if you know the scale steps.

[@samanthanikhil6525]

I agree with Lisa

[@korosenaiGames]

when she started eating those chip i started dying luaghing ahha, the look he gave haha

[@reineh3477]

We need the tritone how else are we going to play dominant 7 chords. Also blues and metal use the b5 all the time.

[@charith-umesh-buddhika-97815]

These are so valuable theories🙂🙂🙂

[@newuser9888]

Before: 😵 After: 😮👍

[@nishantsaini579]

😆

[@tripslft]

I agree with Lisa, because she has snacks.

[@d.l.loonabide9981]

What are "advanced keys"? Scales have the same formula no matter what names you give the notes.

[@tulsidavey8079]

This is the funniest lesson ever Lisa is really an amazing actor 😂 Actually she is doing my role 5:38 it’s literally me ... I’m obsessed with chocolate or something like almond in my theory class 😄😂😅🤣

[@DThompson55]

I've confused musicians for years by putting half notes in beat 2. Also, I love the way he starts each topic with "This is really fun" or "This is really interesting". Also, I was figuring out / improvising on Moon River last night in G (because guitar), when I realized, to my ear anyway, it went from G to Em to D7/C, and that D7/C is really a tritone. So hourray tritones!!

[@PianoteOfficial]

tritones are actually so cool

[@kenrobin5440]

I like the invisible bar line rule

[@langadubazana]

Tritones are essential!

[@robertjenkins2578]

How about three staccato (tenuto?) notes under a slur/tie? Are the notes held or detached? I don’t know so I play the notes as dull throbbing sounds, or that’s what I think I am doing. :)

[@PianoteOfficial]

“Great question! Sometimes music can be a bit mischievous, but here’s what I would do. I would try to play the notes as if they were really hot, but also trying to make them smooth. So A quick release, but having the notes start as smooth as possible.” -Sam

[@robertjenkins2578]

@@PianoteOfficial Thanks for the tip. I may not have the chops to play it though.

[@bleachedproductionz]

Augmented 2nds is a term I’ve heard used, it seems confusing to me

[@d.l.loonabide9981]

If you don't like tritones you have throw out dominant chords also.

[@Nilslos]

I'm kind of a music theory nerd, but I haven't heard of most of the discussed topics. Interesting, but not so exactly relevant to me. Except, don't you say anything bad about the tritone 😝 What is music without harmonic tension? Because I think exactly this is what the tritone brings us: a large, maybe the largest amount of harmonic tension. My answer to the question: Boooooring! (not saying that there have to be tritones everythere/in every piece)

[@bijukunjumon1956]

Could you please help how write the notation of a song?

[@Kibutsuji___Muzan]

1. The invisible barline rule should be invisible as its name suggests 2. Stacatto should only exist 3. Double sharps and flats are a waste of time and paper and memory and..... You know..

[@user-uj6gg7ec9y]

New here...hii lisa! Ill be learning bout piano from youu now youre amazing i just watched youre 3chords vids💕

[@PianoteOfficial]

hello!! so good to have you here!

[@nehazite260]

I must say you've landed in the Right place 🤗✨

[@robertpien8708]

Tritone is amazing a not of heavy metal band and Is 20th century Musicians use the tritone to create dissidents and tension. Lisa I really like the way you teach and always care so much about all Aspects of music . Music is amazing it can bring everyone together and so much love around the world . Were everyone speaks a diffrent language music is the connection of love .

[@99baji99]

3/4 time is so stupid. If there 3 beats per measure, they are third notes. They're not a quarter of anything.

[@Davotunes]

This is great content❤

[@SophieKae]

lmao! totally agree with Lisa!

[@jahnvisingh8015]

Pianote and Singeo videos released almost simultaneously. Don't know what to watch first.🤔

[@PianoteOfficial]

flip a coin??? :P

[@scotth6814]

I think the entire music notation system sucks. It should be scrapped and re-invented from scratch. When I was playing guitar, I used a notation called "tablature", which is way better than conventional sheet music. But it won't work for a keyboard. As an adult learning to play piano, it was way too much to take on all at once to figure out what note the notation was indicating, figure out where that note was on the keyboard, and then figure out what finger to use to play that note so that my other fingers are in position to play the next note without having to move my hand. So I use a simpler notation that I learned from a beginner's book. Could I properly document an original composition so that somebody else could play it? No, probably not. At least not complex classical music. But because I know popular songs by ear, my notation is way easier to read. It only serves as a reminder to me. With it I can play a song that I'm familiar with way faster than I could if I was trying to read conventional sheet music. And if I can't figure out a song by ear, then I have a chart with which I can translate sheet music into something that I play. But at my age I'm not about to learn how to read "proper" sheet music quickly. I'd rather spend my time actually playing than learning music notation.

[@mfurman]

This exactly why after a year learning to play guitar I had enough of it. I do not value this “flexibility” etc. Playing guitar just does help with learning music theory!

[@normasonnentag9686]

Delightful, and also useful. Thanks.

[@d.l.loonabide9981]

At 2:10 he says that the tied quarter notes and the half note are different durations. This is false.

[@d.l.loonabide9981]

Rules for writing notation and rules of music theory aren't really the same thing are they?

[@LocoLifeEntertainment]

This was a really good video

[@BrianAndersonTT]

These are mostly justifiable. What always bothered me is WHY LEFT HAND IS NUMBERED IN REVERSE👎🏽

[@randywhite1724]

Fortunately or unfortunately at my skill level I’ve not encountered any of these other than the ties. Having said that, the tie seems silly and better represented by a half note than tied quarter notes. It’s all about beats in a measure so why not make it simple as possible? In the beginning I learned ties but is it really the best way to represent what you as a composer want to hear played?

[@dallasstiles118]

The reason for this is for clarity. It doesn't matter as much with certain rhythms, granted.

[@Ajz092]

I agree with pretty much everything Lisa said here except for the Tritone thing. We definitely need that. There are no rules to music. If it sounds good, it's good. Writing it shouldn't be as complicated as it is. Totally unnecessary. Especially double flats/sharps.

[@lawrencetaylor4101]

While this discussion was beyond my pay grade, I found it highly entertaining, even though since I was drinking too much I was slurring my ties.

[@korosenaiGames]

should i even learn music theory, or just larn sheet music and the notes on the piano

[@ziggy7676]

Why does it seem like he's talking down to her?

[@derpydudes7814]

Its a skit

[@ellibretto2173]

Hey, Pianote can you plssss do a tutorial on how to play🎹 2002 by Anne Marie (a sing along type) plsssss. 🥺🥺 Thanks.🙏

[@lelleithmurray235]

Before I watched this,I happened to catch the advert-which described my situation perfectly! Which takes the joy out of learning anything!! Sorry! Just my opinion!

[@abhinavgarg6754]

Was I just tricked into studying music theory rules?!!...😵😂

[@PianoteOfficial]

gotcha!!

[@user-dh4mi6ir2m]

6:29 That’s not a word.

[@vicpnut1]

Ok this all(just about all anyways) is beyond me and why I can’t read music…. I even get stuck on guitar tab now and then …. Makes me wish that (way way) back in elementary school I paid attention in music class..🤦

[@lindeehopkins6439]

This is hilarious 🤣

[@parthshakyawar4718]

Can you do a tutorial of exile by taylor swift

[@ptose]

what about parallel fifths? Can you imagine heavy rock music and metal without power chords?

[@PianoteOfficial]

power chords are AWSESSSOMEEEE

[@paul2001net]

😂😂 Lisa!! did you drive some of your teachers to medication? 😜 Informative but hilarious! Now, Sam will have to pace and mumble for awhile!

[@stevebaker8308]

Is it ok to write a half note at beat 2 in 3/4 time?

[@aqueminteressarpossa3445]

love it, simply amazing. best brazilian regards

[@Faaizer]

Lol true

[@velcroman11]

These are the discussions that beginners and conceited know-alls that have really have little theory of music.

[@hriata4764]

5:06 lisa consarntreat to your class 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😁😁🤭😹😹

[@PianoteOfficial]

we made her put a nickel in the swear jar for that one

[@hriata4764]

😂😂😂 pls do like this vid again 🤣 Love your channel soooo much !!!🥰😍😘🤩❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@bayareaconsult4115]

Hehehehe you guys are so funny 😂. I laughed for hours 🙏🌹😍👌👍

[@PianoteOfficial]

Thanks for watchin :)

[@acegamerzminecraft2971]

You should also cover indian songs they are very very nice

[@user-sl5ed8up1b]

i agreed with nothing he said

[@noazjoram5]

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[@albusdumbledore830]

☢️☢️WHY❔️

[@PianoteOfficial]

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[@albusdumbledore830]

@@PianoteOfficial LOL🤣🤣

[@joannelennstrom4934]

If You are in the key of C major and you have an accidental F sharp. And in the same measure you have another F but in a lower part of the scale it is not sharped. Right?

[@dallasstiles118]

"Does it mess the drummers up?" Smh(just kidding).

[@kopanotempleton8414]

And she ate in class guys, so ya'll ain't gonna say nothing about that 😂😂