Pickleball! 3.0 Players Doing What 3.0 Players Do! Is This Really Play At The 3.0 Level?

[@tinmanslickgreasy999]

I appreciate the break downs of all the different levels....I also didnt hear anything harsh. Its called pb pick apart for a reason. Some days my drops are a ok some days I cant trust my drops so instead I may take more drives. Definitely need more practice with the drops or resets.

[@pickleballpick-apart9787]

There's nothing wrong with a third shot drive, if it allows you to move up into the cord. Lots of beginners. Simply drive it and hit it into the net or out of the court. Keep working on the third shots and resets. It will make you a better player. Thanks for watching.

[@tinmanslickgreasy999]

@@pickleballpick-apart9787 thanks and my wife and I really appreciate your videos!!! Thumbs up. I'll keep working on the drops and resets.

[@BJJandBS]

Good vids. Thanks for sharing these Rory. What level player are you?

[@pickleballpick-apart9787]

3.7046. Depending on my partner, we'll play at either 3.5 or 4.0.

[@BJJandBS]

@@pickleballpick-apart9787 good to know. thanks!

[@jeremiahmiller4640]

These videos are helping me tremendously. I’m new to the game but am a 3.5 I’m trying to get to 4.0 as fast as possible. These breakdowns are amazing thanks

[@pickleballpick-apart9787]

You're welcome! I really appreciate you watching.

[@IRWE905]

2.5 in our Town. Both Green Hat and Woman in Black are hitting a lot of balls with the Paddle Face pointing down (ball can only go up). In order for them to progress they need to refine their forehand strokes.

[@pickleballpick-apart9787]

Good point. Thanks for watching.

[@Cacheola]

That's 15mins I'll never get back

[@pickleballpick-apart9787]

Well, it was titled 3.0.

[@Cacheola]

@@pickleballpick-apart9787 Haha, true enough. I'm guilty of being a fan that enjoys your criticism ;)

[@optonaut-sv8ih]

Paddle spinning always makes me chuckle

[@929mmr]

I have never seen anything like what that lady was doing but it does have a purpose for me. Like golf, you can't spin the paddle or club if you are holding it too tightly so for me it is both a check and a fix for my grip to spin them a couple times every once in a while. I can't drive as hard or dink as well if I am gripping the paddle too hard. Of course I do it once or twice every other game or so. Doesn't number in the hundreds like this one.

[@pickleballpick-apart9787]

I really don't see it that often.

[@pickleballpick-apart9787]

I get it! For the most part, you want to have a loose grip.

[@AnnMitt]

Appreciate your analysis of this game. They are 2.5 level, which is the most frustrating level to be at. It takes lessons, hours of drilling, and studying pros in order to move up to the 3.0 - 3.5 level.

[@pickleballpick-apart9787]

True! Thanks for watching.

[@imsap2323]

i personally think the most frustrating is 3.5 trying to get to 4.0… it takes more drilling and less rec play to make that jump… though i might be biased because that’s where i currently am between 3.5-4.0 . i feel it’s taking a good amount of effort and time for me to make that jump. (i have no tennis background)

[@okayest_amateur]

@@imsap2323 3.5 to 4.0 you need to actually drill and practice shots. Work on proper technique. A lot of people can get to 3.5 without even trying just playing. After that you need to put in the work to advance. Strategy also starts to matter, you can have all the right shots but use them at the wrong time. Many people are not willing to put the time into developing the correct technique to advance and therefore get stuck at 3.5. So you are not wrong. 3.5 to 4.0 takes hard work. You can do it! Be willing to work hard, treat pickleball as a sport and not just as a rec/social game, and practice.

[@imsap2323]

A lot of tournaments minimum level is 3.0 so maybe they just wantedto play a tournament. but yeah i agree they are not at 3.0 level yet.

[@pickleballpick-apart9787]

That's a good point. I do see a lot of tournaments that do have a 2.5 level.

[@okayest_amateur]

She is good at twirling her paddle! Way to stay positive. Hey we were all there at one point lol! As long as they are having fun.

[@pickleballpick-apart9787]

I just thought it was interesting that she twirled it that many times. Thanks for watching.

[@okayest_amateur]

@@pickleballpick-apart9787 I agree her twirling was top notch :)

[@TacticalPickleball]

The paddle twirling is a fidget. She's obviously very anxious.

[@CWK090]

I played back one of the serves (black tanktop) at 0.25 speed then stopped the video as the paddle contacted the ball. As long as you don't impart any pre-contact spin on the ball, there are only 3 requirements for a volley serve. All three apply at ball contact. They are upward motion, below your waist (not navel) and no part of paddle face above the bend in your wrist. At normal speed, one might question if any part of the paddle face is above his wrist at the point of ball contact. At one quarter speed I stopped the video at ball contact. His serve looks legal to me.

[@pickleballpick-apart9787]

Thanks for doing that.

[@CWK090]

There is one more requirement that the release of the ball must be visible but that is a replay, never a fault. That wasn't an issue in this case.

[@toebeeleeyoung5287]

I agree that the serve looks legal, I also played it at 0.25 speed and stopped the video as the paddle contacted the ball. Question though, I've seen several videos regarding legal serves and all of them seem to say as long as the ball is hit "below the belly button", the serve is legal. Since everybody's belly button is unpredictably located, servers are usually not called out for violating this rule. So which is it, "waist" or "navel"? To confuse anyone more, some people's "waist" is exactly at their belly button (I've seen many women wear their pants so that it covers up their entire belly button, and a few men also...so would that be considered their "waistline"?)

[@CWK090]

@@toebeeleeyoung5287 It is definitely "Waist". "Navel" (aka belly button) was removed from the regulations. 4.A.7.c. "Contact with the ball must not be made above the waist." I doubt any referee would call a fault unless it is obvious.

[@GunnerstahlY]

I'm a 3.0+ player, these folks are definitely 2.5+

[@pickleballpick-apart9787]

Thanks for watching and thanks for your opinion.

[@jonk6137]

Sorry I got busy at work so I’ll put this comment where I meant to put it earlier, do you think sandbaggers will ever get banned from sand bagging? What is some suggestions for sandbaggers in tournaments?

[@pickleballpick-apart9787]

Sandbagging does happen. I just don't think there's much that can be done about it, since a lot of players self-rate themselves. I appreciate you watching.

[@jonk6137]

@@pickleballpick-apart9787I appreciate the reply Rory I’ll start my own tourney and call it the no sandbaggers allowed

[@okayest_amateur]

Not until DUPR is implemented. I think in general people seem to overrate themselves than underrate themselves.

[@929mmr]

Maybe a little harsh. Guy in green is 2.5. The others are maybe somewhere near 3.0. The team in black will easily beat 2.5s but probably struggle against solid 3.0s. Score and the play reflects that they are not all at the same level so basically all of them are somewhere between 2.5 and 3.0.

[@AnnMitt]

I didn't hear anything harsh. They are 2.5 level. I played at that level for about one year. I only improved through lessons and drills. There is no shame at the 2.5 level. It's more like frustration.

[@pickleballpick-apart9787]

I think that's pretty accurate.

[@pickleballpick-apart9787]

It can be frustrating!

[@929mmr]

@@AnnMittIt wasn't the commentary that I called harsh but rather the rating. Kind of the opposite because I thought 2.5 rating was fair for one of the players but that the other 3 were maybe a bit better than that. I agree there is no shame in the 2.5 level and even if they never get better, then more power to them if they are having fun.

[@Cecil381]

They play at the same level we do as recreational players, some of us are 2.5 and some 3.0. We don't dink either.

[@pickleballpick-apart9787]

It's a lot more fun when you dink!. Thanks for watching.

[@billhumpertt6290]

Well, we all start some where. Not 3.0 Not only was the man in black serving high the woman in black was not dropping her drop serve.

[@pickleballpick-apart9787]

Thanks for watching.

[@GunnerstahlY]

@5:45 under the new rules definitely illegal

[@pickleballpick-apart9787]

Thanks.

[@Bob-uy9mp]

I’m a 5.0 if they’re 3.0 lol

[@pickleballpick-apart9787]

I got you. Thanks for watching.

[@mattgillen7050]

I think the woman in black is probably approaching 3.0 but not at or over it. The other 3 are not, the guy in the green being the lowest ranked of the other 3.

[@pickleballpick-apart9787]

I think that is probably right. Thanks for watching.

[@DavidSandersonSG]

I would have preferred a less snarky take down. I’m at their level now and hope to get better. Coach, I believe you can entertain and educate us using someone else’s content without being so condescending or nasty.

[@pickleballpick-apart9787]

Thanks for the advice and thanks for watching.

[@tonyverbeck3901]

Hate to say it but no way these players are at 3.0 level. They aren't able to consistently return the ball, hit resets, hit drops, and their positioning is generally wrong. Might even say 2.0 play to be honest.

[@pickleballpick-apart9787]

I guess 2.0 is really, really beginner.

[@ralphparker]

2.0 just knows the rules.

[@rassabossa4554]

2.5.

[@pickleballpick-apart9787]

I think that's probably right. Thanks for watching.

[@blackbeardgoatjr2434]

I honestly don't understand how breaking down a game of sub 3.0 players is helping anybody learn how to play better. It's just demeaning and doesn't really serve a purpose imo

[@929mmr]

I disagree. Any of those players or any at that level can benefit by the breakdown. Most of us started playing the game by just hitting the ball over and thinking the only real strategy was hitting it hard or trying to hit it where they weren't so this will let beginners know there is more to the game. Some videos, like this one, I only watch to get an idea of what many think of the ratings. I watch 3.5's for the same reasons and 4.0+ to give me ideas to improve.

[@pickleballpick-apart9787]

Thanks.

[@okayest_amateur]

@@pickleballpick-apart9787 There might be a good percentage of people who watch this channel that might be 3.0. Who knows. I think we need a poll.

[@gongloui]

I think this video is very helpful for me. At least I can measure myself against this players and knowing that I still make the same mistakes and need to avoided them to get better.

[@YooToobBurner]

The whole tone is demeaning. Unnecessary.

[@lukegarcia684]

These people are horrible! They can't be 3.0. I've seen 3.0 way better than them.

[@pickleballpick-apart9787]

There are 3.0 players, then there are 3.0 players. Thanks for watching.