Pickleball Apes Pulse Dissection, UNRELEASED Gen3's, Community Paddle Reviews: Chorus, Neonic, etc

[@johnkewpickleball]

Nice work with the Pulse dissection, Dustin! I may have to cut mine open now. I’ve been so reluctant to dissect my V because I love it so much. But the carbon fiber tube situation has me intrigued

[@WilliamSartori-oz5tp]

You may need to? Why didn't you do that immediately when you saw the performance and sound change? You didn't get curious until you saw someone who is? Instead, you told your followers that your Pulse got better and stayed that way, so maybe yours will too. Here is my affiliate link. Maybe if we saw the actual defect then some of us wouldn't click. Hmm. I wonder if that could be the reason why you aren't so curious. So sad.

[@PickleballMedicine]

Thanks, John! I can very much relate to that feeling... after I cut open the Pulse E, I knew I would have to cut open the V or else I wouldn't get the answers I wanted. Now i've got to break in a new V to get it back to how my old one was! I spoke to Ivan afterwards, as well, and the broken-in paddle he dissected showed similar results. He is now thinking of extending the wrap overlay on the tubules, but he also knows that seems to be against popular demand, haha

[@PickleballMedicine]

To be fair to John, and any other reviewer, for that matter... I didn't want to cut mine open, either! It's certainly not an easy thing to permanently ruin a paddle you won't be able to use ever again, even as a reviewer. It broke my heart for this paddle, actually! I also probably got a little lucky and I almost missed the finding altogether, too. So, while I cut some paddles open, I won't do it for all, and I know that I may not find anything visually obvious when I do so, either.

[@johnkewpickleball]

@@WilliamSartori-oz5tp As the first person to report on the break-in of the Pulse, my first priority was to continue playing with it to make sure it didn't behave the same way as other Gen-3's such as the MOD TA-15, and eventually become unplayable. If I dissected it, that would be impossible. Mine has stabilized and does not behave like other broken Gen-3s. It plays great, as everyone else is reporting, including Dustin. So now the next priority is dissection to see if Dustin's finding is repeatable

[@ernest4483]

Another great content and congrats on the 1st podcast, for community review Unbiased/Nonbiased review

[@codycullinan128]

I loved the community reviews! It felt more more like an organic conversation between friends :) I would have to either call the community review the “Medicine Mates” or “Pickleball Pals”

[@christianeprice]

Just when I could not fall more in love with sweet Dustin, adorable fab reviewer, Dad, and med student…drinkin a white claw on the pod! Referring to Justin as “The Oracle.” I love it!❤😂

[@PickleballPursuit]

Christiane are you cheating on Justin and I?!?!?

[@christianeprice]

@@PickleballPursuitno way! You bros win the day in your matching outfits for sure! But you have to admit Dustin is a great & righteous dude and a cutie, and his referring to Justin as THE ORACLE absolutely slayed me! We will from this point on never refer to Justin as anything other than THE ORACLE!🔮 😜😂

[@PickleballPursuit]

@@christianeprice😂 I’m totally joking of course! Dustin is easily my second favorite Ustin

[@christianeprice]

I love what you’re saying about the Fire bc it confirms in that I am hybrid or trying to be at least hybrid leaning for maneuverability these days and when I realized the fire I liked most was elongated it didn’t feel like it at all to me. So for that particular paddle I’m leaning elongated instead of hybrid 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@christianeprice]

@@PickleballPursuit You mean THE ORACLE formerly known as Justin😂

[@ArianaWilson-]

Community Paddle Reviews is so great.

[@quasimodo62]

Great stuff guys! Looking forward to more of these!

[@timkadom1722]

Loved the community reviews! Awesome pod.

[@LouisBrown19]

Good job guys. The Apes Pulse dissection is interesting. Like to see more analysis of the paddle structure.

[@PickleballMedicine]

can do! I'm open to hearing more of what people want to see for this segment, and will continue cutting paddles open, if people like it!

[@MatthewKPickleball]

PODCAST!!!?!!?!?!!? CONGRATS!!! 🥳🥳🥳

[@MattyRut2922]

I saw you, @MatthewKPickleball, on the AllDriveNoDrop pod... I think you need to try to scoop up @FarmerLanky as the best POD Cast free agent.

[@jason.goodman]

Great video podcast! You guys did a great job. I appreciate all the different input that you had and trying to do things different. Adding in the community reviews sets you apart. Definitely continue including this section. Overall, awesome job! I look forward to the next one.

[@PickleballMedicine]

thanks, Jason! That was definitely a fun section, and I think after working through it a few times i'll be able to get it streamlined a bit more, too.

[@RTJ-PB]

Entry for community portion, “The People’s Champ”. Each pod, near the end of the community segment, have each community member give their favorite overall paddle of the bunch - you would then have a favorite paddle for each community reviewer and potentially a “true champ”if majority of community reviewers select the same paddle. Some weeks you may not have a “true champ” if reviewers selected diff favorite paddles. This could be a neat way to boil down the community testers impressions and could also add an element of excitement to the segment, as in, “will we have a true champ this week?”Love what you guys are doing - keep up the great work and Happy Holidays to you and yours!

[@scooterreviewsstuff]

Great first pod guys! Love the real world review section! I like the idea of having normal rec players giving their opinions. Hoping to get my hands on the Fires and the Pulses soon!

[@PickleballMedicine]

Thanks man, I appreciate it! those two paddles are definitely opposites on the play spectrum, haha... i'll be interested in finding out which you like more!

[@scooterreviewsstuff]

@ unfortunately still don’t have them, but I’m still hearing good things about both series! Maybe I’ll be able to get hands on them before the end of the year

[@ChorusPickleball]

Great pod guys!

[@cardinals5516]

Great first podcast. Looking forward to many more. The Apes Pulse paddles segment was super interesting.

[@PickleballMedicine]

thank you for the support!! I'll continue to do dissections, if people like it!!

[@groot3371]

I enjoyed and you both did a great job on your first podcast. The community review potion should be called, “The people have spoken.” Thank you for your thoughts and the paddle reviewer’s thoughts on playing with the different paddles. Have a happy Thanksgiving 🦃, Dustin and Cody.

[@PickleballMedicine]

thank you so much for the support!! hope you had a great thanksgiving as well, and a great upcoming Christmas holiday!

[@KaLee-gc7oq]

Good job on your first podcast!

[@PickleballMedicine]

thank you very much! lots to work on, but it's a work in progress!

[@DianSusiana98]

Nice podcast. After watching to your video, I plan to buy another HUDEF paddle on Black Friday.

[@jonathanc5497]

Reviews by the people for the people

[@quasimodo62]

Segment name: Dinking deep Paddle power hour Grip and Rip The sweet spot And the low hanging fruit- Smash or Pass: paddle edition

[@Sjohn28]

3rd drop hub, swing street, The Erne, pickle-verse…. Hey all these off the top of my head , I’m trying here!!

[@Carpe.Dinkem]

43:45 Just realized I said it’s “similar to the Original Flow Prime” but meant to say “the original Flow”

[@PickleballMedicine]

You call yourself a professional??

[@kylepickleball]

I bought the Pulse V and S, played with elongated paddles for over 5 years but fell in love with the V and no perimeter weighting. Love the paddle and curious to see how it stacks up against the new Gearbox Pro Ultimate Hyper which is in the power tier but with impressive control.

[@PickleballMedicine]

a very interesting comparison... let us know what you think!

[@yvettebroussard2604]

The review crew

[@65atBestPB]

Good first pod, hello Cody. Segment: What say you my peeps?

[@AlaricBishop1993]

Great podcast. I am interested in Chorus Fire SX.

[@terogan]

My vote is “The Court of Public Opinion”

[@MattyRut2922]

Apes has said that they found additional micro holes in the broken in foam. Essentially, the new paddle was a solid foam and the broken in one had a softer foam with more holes in it. PERSONALLY, I like your theory better, that maybe the foam and the carbon fiber tubes separated, and increase the trampoline effect. I think then the Carbon fiber tubes prevent it from breaking further. GOOD STUFF IN THIS POD.

[@PickleballMedicine]

Thanks again, Matt!! I talked to Ivan on the phone the other day and proposed the idea of manufacturing them with the tubes already open a bit.. that way the breakin is reduced and it starts more "broken in" so to speak.. but not sure he's wanting to go for that! 😅

[@RTJ-PB]

Congrats on the new pod - loved the Apes dissection piece - for the community review, I would go with “Weekend at Ernes” Keep up the good work! ps you guys both look pretty young so if you haven’t watched Weekend at Bernies, take a little time, go back to 1989, and give it a watch - classic

[@PickleballMedicine]

hahaha, I have seen that movie, but it has been a very long time! It did, in fact, come out before I was born... but just barely! 😅

[@jmrybak]

Community sourced review name suggestion “open play (paddle) reviews”

[@PickleballPursuit]

NO LAWS WHEN DRINKING THE CLAWS

[@PickleballMedicine]

Bought an office fridge just to fill with them for podcasts... time to tear it up 😎

[@PickleballPursuit]

@@PickleballMedicine 🤣

[@jetjaguar5198]

Whats ur opinion of the Apes Pulse S vs Flow Prime X? Demoed the “S” and when i hit the ball outside the sweet spot the ball died more then i thought it should with the foam side walls vs the Flow Prime X which i just got feels more solid all the way around and only costs $112 vs $180

[@PickleballMedicine]

both very good paddles... i personally like the FPX better of those two, but my favorite Pulse Paddle is the Pulse V. Can't go wrong with the super low price of the neonic... I have always really liked how their paddle faces felt.

[@daniilmotsenyat]

When is the ryu will be released?

[@PickleballMedicine]

good question.. last I asked, no official update, but eta was in Dec sometime!

[@1hp322]

Segment ideas: Guest appearances: Outpatient Surgery Paddle reviews: Clinical Trials PPA or MLP talk: Medicine Ball

[@PickleballMedicine]

hahaha, the outpatient surgery one got me laughing... 😂

[@terogan]

Do your glasses not fit. You adjusted them probably every 20-30 seconds. 😉 Looking forward to episode 2.

[@PickleballMedicine]

hahaha, well, this would probably be the case for anything within my reach, to be fair!😂 I actually hate wearing glasses, and I only wear them on very specific occasions (despite needing to..), such as: -playing pickleball -driving at night -reading screens or far away words Cody and I both have kids and do the pod late at night, so by that point, i'm nearly blind and have to wear the glasses, which I hate doing... 😅

[@terogan]

@ I figured it was a nervous tick or something. You might be a good fit for CRT contact lenses. My daughter has them. Wear them at night and your vision is sharp all day.

[@pickle_lyss]

Community reviews name ideas: The court report Pickleball test kitchen Paddle pals perspectives Courtside community check-in The paddle panel The feedback friends The community test drive The feedback rally

[@MattyRut2922]

Let’s call the community paddle reviews “The Paddle Pulse”

[@jmogyoro]

​Thank you for showing us this defect. PB Apes released a paddle that breaks in the field and you showed us how that breakage occurs. Without exception, everybody who has reviewed this thing observed that it changes but you are the only one who showed us the cause. It may feel better after breakage but that isn't the intention of the design. It's just an unfortunate (or fortunate) symptom of the failure. It is dissapointing that reviewers are reluctant to dissect paddles and you said that it was hard to permanently ruin a paddle. This is invaluable for us who don't want to spend money on a broken paddle. You are a reviewer who receives money through affiliate links which makes you a professional reviewer. Think of it as a test sample, not your personal paddle. You are protecting us from brands that release paddles that have questionable designs and inadequate reliability tests. You are the Consumer Reports for paddles. Your findings may have even encouraged PB Apes to make a change.

[@PickleballMedicine]

You have a very valid point, for sure. I think one other angle that makes it difficult for me personally to cut open every paddle I receive is that once you do that, the ability to use a paddle for comparative purposes in the future is gone. Statistics, measurements, etc are all only good if taken into real context, and things such as anchoring and recency bias make comparing a paddle from a long time ago, to a paddle i'm testing now, very difficult and frankly innacurate unless I can hit them side by side. For example, the Neonic Force was a paddle that had really strong pop when it was released, and if I was just going off memory, I would have said it could compete with some of our more poppy paddles now. I was surprised to take it out and hit it side by side some of the newer paddles, because while the pop is still good, it's absolutely nowhere near the pop of a chorus fire or a Valor Pro, even though my memory might have thought so. Destroying paddles takes that away, and also makes it so I cant tease out the nuanced differences in paddles, such as the old vs new shapeshifters. those really need to be hit side by side, so consumers can know what actaul differences they will see, in real time and in real life. Destroying paddles takes that away in the future. So while I definitely see your point, and i'll continue to cut open many, many paddles, just know there is a lot that goes into the decision of cutting open a paddle, from a reviewers perspective, beyond personal connection. (:

[@metal_bloo]

So does the pulse e not pop then

[@mwfielder]

Community review: Day Dinkin'

[@timothyngo933]

I think a fun name for the segment would be "Postgame Prescriptions" to relate it to your name Pickleball Medicine! Alternate names: Amateur Prescriptions Community Diagnoses

[@timothyngo933]

Post-Rec Checkup

[@timothyngo933]

Post-Rec paddle babble

[@timothyngo933]

post-rec paddle chatter

[@timothyngo933]

postgame paddle recs

[@kshed666]

Pulse s vs mod; thoughts on how they play differently and what you would get for tournaments?

[@PickleballMedicine]

Oh man, great question. These are very different in feel and how they play! The Mod is way hotter, and a bit more inconstant. the Pulse series is much more controllable, consistent, and better durability. I would choose the Pulse all day long, because for me personally, I usually need all the help i can get in control, and do just fine with power on my own. consistency wins tournaments, imo!

[@TheGhostServant]

segment name: The Pickle Gallery

[@Carpe.Dinkem]

Ahhh like Peanut Gallery!

[@kimleith1378]

Always like seeing the internals, thanks for taking the time to do the work. Seems that any paddle that has foam touching Polypro, will has durability and integrity issues. Just sayin.

[@PickleballMedicine]

you're not wrong... I think some of the nuances of this will be worked out soon, or at least I hope so. Some gen3 paddles seem to last much longer than others, but certainly foam seems highly degradable compared to the more traditionally rigid cores.

[@jorgebojorquez7137]

Segment Name: “Nobodys’ Opinion”

[@RickHicks-np4ep]

The Common Player Review

[@PBAnt1416]

“YOU” Review- where “you”, the community does the review

[@Pickleball_dad]

Has anyone used the pulse E? For some reason it intrigues me

[@PickleballMedicine]

Its definitely different! I like the leverage it gives, but the sweet spot is a little more confined. They are coming out with a new shape.. the Pulse X... should have mine here this week! 👀

[@rtamson7]

The Sandlot

[@FPennings13]

Like the Community Paddle Reviews segment ... how about Real Reviews by Real People, Real Reviews by Real Players, Community Paddle Chatter

[@MattyRut2922]

The Paddle Pulse Check

[@cmaden]

Segment name: “The people’s paddle prognosis”

[@PickleballMedicine]

Solid, hard hitting paddles!

[@MattyRut2922]

Getting regular people to review paddles never works. I think Chris tried it once, they just don’t know. I mean they were consistently saying the Chorus Fires were heavy! Small sweet spot on the Pulse S ?!?!?

[@PickleballMedicine]

I think at least a good preface is a place to start, and i'm definitely learning some nuances about how to organize and direct the flow of that portion. It seems to be received pretty positively, so i'll probably keep going with it and see where it lands!

[@jonathanc5497]

Call the segment “The people’s reviews”

[@VTB1-559]

Collective conscience

[@9DeezzDinkDrop]

Have the claws and/or other adult libations during the community chat and call it Dinkin & Drinkin Reviews

[@PickleballMedicine]

Oh dang, I love this!! The sessions are usually held in the morning, though... so I am not sure how many people I can get to start drinking claws with me at those hours... 😂

[@nsj2kx]

2nd comment

[@dylansmith2219]

Daily Dosage Pickleball Perscribed Group Gander Peoples “Picks” (Peoples “Pick”-leball)

[@dylansmith2219]

Rec play Recs

[@dylansmith2219]

Paddles persribed

[@Carpe.Dinkem]

@@dylansmith2219I like this!