Pie, West Virginia & Varney, West Virginia: Two Appalachian Communities in Mingo County, WV

Pie, West Virginia & Varney, West Virginia: Two Appalachian Communities in Mingo County, WV.
The story of how Pie, West Virginia got its name and the story of Evangelist R.A. West from Varney.
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[@oliveallen7701]

Where you started the video is actually Taylorsville and where you turned is the community of Musick you never reached Pie. I know I was raised there and born there as well. Lived there until I was 14 years old Pie Church of God is not in Pie, WV.

[@hendelnaugrim5826]

and when you said you were getting close to pie, you are almost right in front of the varney post office

[@gojudude]

@@hendelnaugrim5826 That's incorrect.

[@gojudude]

I was born and raised there too, grew up across from the trade school. Yeah, Jacks old station could technically be called Taylorville, but I always considered Taylorville to stop at the bridge, and everstuff past that was Varney LMFAO!!!

[@suzybailey-koubti8342]

I remember going over Horsepen and going down Pigeon Creek many, many years. My mom always went to a really nice furniture store in Taylorsville?

[@ronniemurphy2124]

That is correct! 2 miles past the school shed at Rover's Branch, to the head of the creek.

[@scottranger8909]

It's a beautiful day for exploring. WVA is nice country

[@MrCRDOC]

I can’t get over how beautiful the surroundings are. Would love to explore those hills around you . Very cool towns as well

[@christophermeehan7253]

R.A. West was one of the greatest ministers and Men of God in our generation. May he rest in peace and blessings on his family. You turned around in Jay Michael Mart, which was owned by the West family. Thanks for the video! I was at that meeting in Fort Pierce, Florida. It was the very first service I ever went to outside of the Catholic Church! Completely transformed my life! I thank God for R.A. West!!!!

[@realappalachia]

That's awesome, thanks for the comment, love reading memories like that

[@hatfieldheritage3273]

That whole creek is referred to as Pigeon Creek

[@suzybailey-koubti8342]

That’s what we always called it.

[@rockycoyote]

Thanks for sharing about R.A.West. Although it would be considered a tragic ending to us, it appears he finished well in his ministry and was faithful until the end.

[@realappalachia]

Great point

[@emmadoub]

Thanks for the video. Leander Blankenship was my grandfather. It's true that he loved pies but how he got known for loving pies was he had a second hand store and some people couldn't pay with money so he would tell them to bring him a pie for trading. That's how he got known for loving pie. I guess he helped a lot of people out when they needed it. Sadly, I never got to meet him because he passed away a few years before I was born. He's buried up Little Muncy Hollow in Pie.

[@realappalachia]

that comment totally made my day, he sounds like a fine fine man. I am sorry you didn't get to meet him but he left a lasting and great legacy.

[@tracychaffin4410]

Have family in that area. Love R.A west. Wish you could have showed more.

[@albertfarley3287]

I attended Varney Elementary and my parents home is next to the Varney post office. Thanks for a great video.

[@realappalachia]

Glad you enjoyed it. I saw the last name Farley quite a bit on this trip.

[@neneg4340]

I have Farley cousins.

[@samcook1545]

If you go in just a little further before you turned around you are the best for my uncle Thurman Lester lived for many years. Original house they lived in it was a four room frame house built by WM Ritter timber Company in the 1880s. Then red jacket call loaned it when my uncle bought it. I think he was the last man in West Virginia to technically free range Carol… He always had a milk cow that roamed free back in that holler. If it got too close to the road my uncle would go out on the porch, pump up His BB gun and pop the cow on the butt. She just look at them annoyed and trudge back away from the road

[@realappalachia]

Lol, I would have loved to have seen that lol

[@ronniemurphy2124]

My Scout Master for 6+ years.

[@neneg4340]

my cousins own the 52 Hardware in Delbarton right on the hwy.

[@virginiamartin7312]

Great Sunday afternoon ride and a bonus with good preaching. THANKS and GOD BLESS YOU ALWAYS.

[@realappalachia]

Thank you, Virginia 😊

[@debbieepperly3821]

Oh! Loved the singing, Shane! Loved the Bandit movies! I loved when Pastor West said he was having more fun going to heaven than the world was going to hell! Gotta remember that one! Really loved hearing him sing too! This was awesome, Shane! Thank you & God bless!

[@jjdillon2007]

Varney is a very popular last name, in Mingo County. As a matter of fact, I'm going to share this video and tag a few people named Varney.

[@ronniemurphy2124]

Well yes, they actually ran the Pie Church of God for many years. I'm kin to them.

[@patobrien6525]

Randy West! There's a face I haven't seen since I left West Virginia!

[@brendarife1544]

My husband owns 52 Hardware before u get to Randy’s church he was raised on the creek u need to come back and he can show u where the altitude is in his aunts yard he can tell u a lot about the area .

[@realappalachia]

that would be great, thank you, Brenda

[@ronniemurphy2124]

Your husband is a great man. I've known him since I was a small lad (5-6), going to church up in the Paulianne branch on Beach Creek at the old church house with a pot belly stove for heat.

[@hatfieldheritage3273]

My old bus stop! That’s Jack Carroll’s old gas station and the old H&H Furniture

[@rogertees]

R.A. West had a church in Princeton, WV beside Route 460. I'm pretty sure it is still there.

[@realappalachia]

I'd forgotten all about seeing that building when I used to go to Princeton

[@gregboggs4721]

I grew up in Pie, WV. Attend Varney Grade school. Bill Snodgrass was my pastor at the Baptist church.

[@ronniemurphy2124]

I remember you! We went to school together.

[@TeresaHodges1]

I feel like I remember going to one of his Tent Revivals as a kid. He seems familiar. I grew up in WV!

[@sierrachoco5271]

He acts like he's possessed - looks it to!

[@ronniemurphy2124]

@@sierrachoco5271 He was, by the Holy Spirit!!!

[@apostolicclips]

I’m so glad you made this video! I also grew up under Bro R.A. West Ministry, and will be headed to Varney for the first time in almost 30 years this weekend to visit his church, and grave. Thanks for the excellent video! From what I gathered, it looks like there aren’t any motels, hotels, or restaurants out there! Please tell me that I’m mistaken! Lol

[@realappalachia]

Unfortunately, you're not mistaken lol

[@brendarife1544]

U passed up pie

[@darrelmurphy4930]

Went to 3rd grade there in Varney.

[@lindamaemullins5151]

It’s been a long minute since I was in Mingo county 😔❤️🙏🥰

[@billcockerham3263]

I remember RA West very well. He also had a large church in Princeton WV at the time of his death.

[@darrelmurphy4930]

The building on the left when leaving Varney with the pallets was a furniture factory.

[@jenniferberry5445]

That's where my husband is from he went to Varney grade school all his grade school years

[@ronniemurphy2124]

Tell him I said Hi!

[@howardelzey2760]

I live on the Eastern Shore of Maryland. We had those bus stop huts everywhere up until the early 1990's when they stopped using bus stops and the school buses started stopping at each individual house. The huts were built and maintained by local companies that would paint their advertisements on the side of the hut. It was a win - win for everyone. The kids got a place out of the elements and the companies got some good roadside advertising.

[@realappalachia]

They seem like they were great things to have

[@richarddrum9970]

Been through both at one time in the past. At one time they were probably jumpin places full of wonderful people.

[@gojudude]

Up until the early 90's they were.

[@AlbertFarley-dp3ro]

Grew up in Varney our house is next to the Post Office.

[@cyng6393]

This is where my grandma Viola (Ball) Brooks and Grandpa Dewey Counts was in Mingo county and they lived up the mountain.. 12 living kids! Total history!! Awesome

[@davidking9724]

I've got kin up around y'alls area. Hatchers, Hatfields, Kinders, King's. Sure miss those childhood vacations to WVA.

[@cyng6393]

@@davidking9724 I have an uncle Hatfield as well my Grandma's first son. Almost all the Counts left and came to Montana around the 50's. I still want to come out there and check it out. I lived on them stories I'd heard as a kid. I'm proud of my hillbilly heritage!!! Strong wild survivors!! I know alot of canning preserving meats etc. Yep very proud of them!! 😀

[@cyng6393]

@@davidking9724 oh yea their are Kings too!! Two uncle's married two sisters who were Kings, they left WVA and moved to Montana also! Small world...

[@jamesgreco7538]

I've lived in Mingo, Logan, Jackson, Kanawha, and Putnam

[@rayleeeastlick3989]

Klamath falls Oregon is watching

[@mountainfolk2000]

Thank You Shane, Another great video. Delbarton being my home town(2nd William Ann Camp), I am familiar with this area. you started the video at Jack Carroll's gas station, with in eye sight was Rita's Little Dinner, with in eye sight from there is 52 Hardware. Brenda Rife's Husband (Hello Brenda) can Surely show or tell ya about any part of the area or anyone , very knowledgeable about the area and it's people. At 4:25 on the left is the Furniture Factory that John F Kennedy had built in the 60's as part of the war on poverty. The road just after this building by the telephone poles goes across Mystery Mountain and comes out at the old public swimming pool, just before ya get to old Island Creek # 24 & 25 mines.If I remember correctly at 9:08 was another Restaurant.

[@realappalachia]

Jane, thanks a ton for adding that information. I saw references to the furniture factory but had no idea of the ties to the war on poverty. I am sure there is a good story behind the name Mystery Mountain.

[@neneg4340]

Dallas and Brenda are my cousins. Dallas's dad and my mom were siblings.

[@mountainfolk2000]

@@neneg4340 fine folks Dallas and Brenda, I was married into the Justice family across the road from Dallas's hardware store.

[@gojudude]

Yes...9:08 was Sheppards drive in with the fishing pond out back.

[@gojudude]

@@realappalachia Oh yeah...it's a good story alright LOL

[@veggiepowered]

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[@angellight2315]

Hi have you been to Slab Fork West Virginia or comfort West Virginia? Along the little coal river. That’s where my family was from until my mom moved to New York state when I was eight. If you have any videos of that areas let me know which ones to look for.

[@realappalachia]

We havent been to either of those yet, unfortunately

[@mariekatherine5238]

I’m binge watching your channel! Nearly all of these roads and little “unincorporated” towns are familiar. This is the second summer since 2005 because of family obligations and Covid that I didn’t get to visit WV and KY.

[@hatfieldheritage3273]

R.A. West was my dad’s first cousin

[@BFTEgodswarrio5939]

I like pie myself not really picky about what flavor or such pie is pie and does it really matter unless its British pies, then I pass. Who puts meat in a pie?

[@realappalachia]

Come to think of it, I like pretty much all pies too. A pie with meat is no deal in my world.

[@BFTEgodswarrio5939]

And think about it how can you trust someone who calls a cookie a biscuit? Rubbish i say.

[@realappalachia]

@@BFTEgodswarrio5939 I'm pretty sure you just found a major factor that led to the Revolutionary War lol

[@wyattdean5658]

I like Pie, hot or cold.

[@ksparky388]

I really enjoyed your comments on R A West. Years ago I worked on some of his office equipment. He and his staff was always good to me.

[@suzybailey-koubti8342]

Grew up listening to Pastor West. Born and raised in Omar, WV. Have lived in NYC since 1988. I knew some Sparks that lived in Chapmanville, WV. I graduated from Logan High School in 1974.

[@glennford216]

Love these videos Shane! You do great work. God bless and stay safe

[@realappalachia]

Thank you so much, Glenn

[@jbcarseiii]

Get you a banjo

[@traceym.8680]

In Wisconsin All the people with children have little houses by the edge of their driveways for the kids to wait for the School Bus...

[@realappalachia]

That's a great thing to do

[@eirenmist2301]

As others have told you, you actually did not reach Pie. The village of Pie sits at the foot of Horsepen Mountain. I know because I was born there! Literally born at home there at the head of Pigeon Creek! I had to laugh when you turned around because you were so excited you could say you had been to Pie. But I was sad as well. because I've been all around the world since then, and when I discovered your video, I was so excited to get to see Pie again, but no...didn't happen! So since you said you always wanted to go to Pie, you need to make another trip! 😊

[@realappalachia]

Oh no! We learn as we go and appreciate these comments so we know. We will definitely have to make another trip (or a first time I guess 😂) to Pie! Thank you! - Melody

[@eirenmist2301]

@@realappalachia Thank you for your response which shows me that you took my comment in the genial spirit in which it was intended. I worried after I commented that my tone might have come across as critical which I did not intend. 🙂

[@ronniemurphy2124]

Pie Church is not in Pie, WV. At that School shed, you need to go up the creek about 2 miles to be in Pie, WV. The community of Pie built that church down there at Varney, WV because the land was given to them. I was mostly raised up here and lived here as an adult for a few years between Varney and Pie (in Music, WV.) I was a member of the R.A. West Church when he died. I'm still local but I live on another creek.

[@lazarusmesserian8186]

I'm sorry Shane but I couldn't resist either but "pie are square and so are we".

[@realappalachia]

Love it lol

[@brendarife1544]

There’re u are

[@hatfieldheritage3273]

Went up Grade school here from kindergarten to 6th grade

[@sarahritter3891]

My great grandma was born a West

[@kimberlymccoy8220]

Lol, another rooster!!!

[@realappalachia]

Oh, just wait til the Delbarton video comes out lol

[@thomasjudemusic]

I used to live behind those building at the beginning of the video. I literally waited on the steps of the white building to catch the bus!

[@realappalachia]

that is awesome, I love hearing from folks who know these areas so well

[@hatfieldheritage3273]

That’s Mystery Mountain

[@gerryjones7485]

He Drive so fast you can't even look at the homes

[@gojudude]

He was puttin' Brother...I used to drive that road so fast you would have never seen one of those houses ;)

[@gerryjones7485]

Why didn't you tell where the town of Kermit West Virginia got its name from or do you even know. Well it got its name from Theodore Roosevelt youngest child was named Kermit like Kermit the Frog

[@jbcarseiii]

Leander is a big name out of Greek classics. Blankenship is a big Name in Pennsyltucky

[@brendarife1544]

U are coming on pi’s church

[@WVoutdoorsman100]

You drove by Mrs. Varneys house at 5:08. She is a sweet soul, always a blessing to anyone she meets.

[@realappalachia]

that is awesome

[@donnavaughn5393]

Thanks you my friend

[@sierrachoco5271]

There's no people outside, it looks really lonely. Great video as usual!

[@realappalachia]

thanks so much, Sierra

[@gojudude]

Most definitely nothing to do there...which is why I left that creek back in 88...

[@gojudude]

Hey Brother...commented last nite on one of your vids. You are in my house in this one. Soooo I'll tell you all about it being you're about a mile south of my home. 1:27 is/was a family furniture factory. If I remember right it was H&H... Could be wrong, and prolly am lol. I still have a dresser I bought there in 1984. The building to the right at 1:31 was a Gulf service station when I was growing up. It was owned by Jack Carroll. If you look to the right (facing the building) he and his wife lived over top of those last 2 bays, and finally in about 85 or so, built the house beside the station. That building across the road was storage for the furniture business. As you swing your camera around, when your car comes into view...that church you see used to be "The Man's Lodge"... Never really knew what that meant. Went to some BD parties there and we used to have our scout meetings there. If you look right of the church, you'll see a tan colored building. That was a Sunoco station, and the owners lived on top of it. Varney grade school, just like all the other schools in southern Wv that are closed/have been consolidated, is full of asbestos, so the school board has given it back to the family who donated the land back in the day, and that kept the state from bearing the cost of the asbestos removal and put it on the family. When you're leaving the school and turning left, there is a sign on up the road that says Pie unincorporated. At 3:55 you comment you believe you hit Pie...you have not, your fixin' to go by the Varney post office on the left where that church is. At 4:27, to the left, is Mystery Mountain, and you are correct that ALL of Varney/Pie are not coal camps. From where you started this video, all the way south on 52 the only mines were up Mystery Mountain. At 4:41, you'll see a driveway on the left goin' up to a house and 2 trailers...bought a lotta pot there back in the day ;). At 5:20, you can see all those portapottys on the right...That's Bearcat Marcum...been in the septic business since I was a child. At 6:24, to the right is Sheppards Drive-In. Back in the day, they had really good greasy cheeseburgers and hotdogs...and the had a pond out back where you could pay 5 bucks an drink beer and fish all night. At 7:35, yes that is a bus shelter to keep the rain off of em. At 7:41, if you had kept goin' up that holler, you'd have dead ended at my wife's aunts house lol. At 8:47 the answer is yes, from my house to the "head" of the creek, which you was almost at, is referred to as pigeon creek. At 9:29, you mention you're a little outside of Delbarton, which is correct. Where you are is about 10 miles south of Delbarton, but, you're also about 10 miles from Red Jacket, and maybe 12 miles from Matewan. At 12:12, if you'll look to the right at that building, I used to date a girl that lived in the upper section of it...At 13:44, where those trailers are, there used to be the Linmar Motel, and it had a bar in there, and there were many killings in that bar all through my life. I had friends killed there, and I had friends that killed folks there. It was a bad place to be from Friday evening till 2 AM Sunday mornin'. Ay 14:11, on the left is Wilson Trucking, and he had many coal trucks and they hauled coal for over 50 years. Wilson lived in the red brick house on the right. At 14:22, on the right used to be a restaurant back in the 70's. I remember eatin' there on a very few occasions. At 19:38...Brother, all I can say about R.A. West....is he was a fraud, and his son runs that ministry now, and he's a fraud also. That's all I'm gonna say bout him. He died in a motorcycle crash right there in Pie, right above his church. At 19:39, to the left, was Eddie Hilbert's mining repair. He rebuilt mining equipment. He later bought the sheriffs office for 100K, and eventually got caught up in the notorious 1985 FBI sting. At 20:50, you're showing R.A. West's house. When you pulled off at that First Baptist Church, if you had went a lil' deeper in the curve and turned left on that gravel road you would have went to the church that you see across the creek at 20:24 beside the mountain. That's his church he started. At 21:20, to the right, is the Jay Michael quick stop, which is R.A.'s son. At 21:46, to the right, is the road that went to R.A.'s church, which I see you turned on. Hope you enjoyed the detail, I could do soooo many more comments of this. Thanks for posting it.

[@josephwest4814]

How are brother West and his son frauds?

[@gojudude]

@@josephwest4814 Dude....you really want me to answer that on a world wide public forum????

[@josephwest4814]

@@gojudude Sure! His main and only focus was to follow Jesus, and a lot of people that didn’t really know him made/make comments about him. We’re used to it lol

[@gojudude]

@@josephwest4814 He hired me to fix a bus for the church. He purposely wrote me a bad check from a closed account which I could not cash, and he would not make right. So, I went to Wirt Marcum and he cashed it for me. Wirt had his money from the church within a week, as he had the means of getting it. I could go on and on Sir.

[@josephwest4814]

@@gojudude man I don’t think he would have intentionally done that. Every dime that came into that ministry basically went right back out with TV programs, keeping people employed, and so on. He may have literally not known that it was a bad check and didn’t know he didn’t have the money at that very second. I know firsthand that a lot more went out (and still goes out) of the ministry than what comes in

[@Desir3d]

At 9:43 on the left with the red truck was my childhood home and my grandpa lived there until his passing in 2017. PO Box 238 🥹 the memories

[@barbarawellman711]

You never made it to Pie , my mom was born in Pie 1937 . Pie is about 6 miles from Varney.

[@tonaga21]

Have a lot of family in Varney. Adkins, and Christian.

[@suzybailey-koubti8342]

Sure looks familiar to me! Been down that road many a time growing up.

[@Gunnamann88]

The bus shed you turned beside I use to get high and or drunk every morning before school in that shed

[@brendarife1544]

That’s not it

[@lindamaemullins5151]

❤️

[@FirstNationNameBeliever-215]

This nice to see that place on the inside the town of varney and pie

[@enriquecasablanca5983]

Simple as pie. lmfao Love small old communities like this.

[@buck546]

When I went to school in the sixties we had those. We called them bus houses. l spent a many minute standing in one waiting on the school bus they were great for keeping you dry out of the rain and snow. A Halloween trick was to turn them over. Most of them are gone now. Tokens from a simpler time.

[@realappalachia]

Seems like they would still use them, sounds like they were quite handy

[@annblankenship8932]

At the 19:51 Mark you will see two houses on your left, the closest to the camera is my nephews house and the furthest from the camera is my home I grew up in built in 1980 by my mom and dad. My dad is a Justice and his mom was a Varney, hence 'VARNEY' WV because of the Varney clan. Jim Varney (ERNEST goes to camp) is my Granny's 2nd cousin and my 4th cousin. His grandpa and my Granny's dad (my great grandpa) were brothers.

[@realappalachia]

Very cool info, thanks

[@TheA1librarian]

you never made it up to pie, that is music where you turned around

[@haroldcurry8069]

is the cemetary up on the hill behind the school

[@jasongartin8546]

Me and my dad attended Varney Grade school…. Some of the best days of my life were spent here… even today I go and sit there and listen to the echos of my past…. Varney Grade is my church now… ty for doing what y’all do…

[@realappalachia]

That’s fantastic

[@kirbygwinn1402]

I grew up listening to RA West and still listen to him on KZbin. I've often wondered about details of his death and was wondering if someone could tell what happened that day? He truly done a great work for God and is still a blessing to me. Thanks to anyone who could let me know what happened to this great Jesus man.

[@traceym.8680]

In Wisconsin All the people with children have little houses by the edge of their driveways for the kids to wait for the School Bus...

[@hatfieldheritage3273]

I’m a Substitute school bus driver on Mingo County. They really don’t use them anymore.

[@traceym.8680]

@@hatfieldheritage3273 Here where I live they do...

[@MichelleJohnson-tg5lx]

Fly on the head or Face is Demonic

[@SmokyMountainBlessed]

I enjoyed the drive, we had not heard of RA West

[@realappalachia]

Thank you 🙏

[@Knott4U]

Does anyone know how Varney got it's name ? lol

[@gojudude]

It was named after ole' man Varney ;)

[@sherriganske4292]

Have seen a few in Central illinois

[@TheA1librarian]

you haven't been to pie.

[@greenQT]

We always said "easy as pie". haha.

[@realappalachia]

That makes me feel better lol

[@johnturner8236]

Thanks for sharing your video. I from Indiana but lived in Varney for many years. I work in R.A. West Ministries and in the West's business. R.A. West was a great man of God. Your video bring back so many memories traveling those roads

[@realappalachia]

So glad it helped bring back memories. I well remember watching R.A. West on tv as a child but unfortunately never got to see him in person.

[@zaphodbeeblebrox3986]

We have communities named Peewee, Burning Springs and Palestine here in Wirt County. You should come here one day. :)

[@realappalachia]

You might have just talked me into it

[@MichelleJohnson-tg5lx]

Easy as Pie

[@MichelleJohnson-tg5lx]

Great singing and Jokes You keep on a being you

[@pookysmom6712]

Who doesn't love pie? lol

[@realappalachia]

True lol

[@elivarney7875]

My aunt della lives right across the street from our church of god!!

[@realappalachia]

I think I saw her out in her yard in that case lol

[@stevenbradford6824]

Whata shame to see towns like this!

[@dlmullins9054]

Easy as pie. lol

[@brendarife1544]

Right there

[@suzybailey-koubti8342]

Precious memories for me!

[@realappalachia]

So glad it brought back some memories for you

[@hatfieldheritage3273]

My uncle Bill!!

[@marthaborman7492]

Bill Snodgrass is my cousin. Alex Whitt was my grandfather. I appreciate seeing this. We are headed there for a visit in October 2023.

[@hm12460]

PLEASE!! If you are going to tell bad jokes or sing, turn your camera off. Enjoy your channel immensely but we can do without that.

[@realappalachia]

And I can do without you so...

[@MichelleJohnson-tg5lx]

I liked the singing

[@michellegilliam2892]

Just curious, what kind of recording equipment do you use? What do you recommend to get started doing these sort of driving videos? Thanks so much.

[@realappalachia]

I just have a go pro hero 9 and a dash cam for it. As for audio, I use a rode wireless go