Scarlett TROLLS at a $500,000 Tournament

[@OpreanMircea]

even in SC 1 the hydras shot "groved spines", the animation looked very wet but it was spines back then as well, PiG you are so good at tempting me to comment on your video, this was fun to watch

[@burningsheep4473]

Perphaps just some miscommunication about what they were supposed to shoot... Or somebody thought that basic spines wouldn't be very visible and seem anemic. But the description of the attack is similar from what I remember.

[@hatework4282]

When you get to be Pigs age, you start... What was i saying?

[@imperialresolution]

I recall "Grooved Spines.. Yet, The Actual Name is "Needle Spines" as too the Upgrade Towards Range.

[@OpreanMircea]

@@imperialresolution didn't every weapon in SC have a name? If you hovered over the damage number, like the Arklight cannon of the siege tank, I may be misremembering

[@bleep410]

they did, but the firebats actually had a normal looking flamethrower on their unit health model, but they shot fire from their wrists if you looked at the pixels closely enough @@OpreanMircea

[@toadofsteel]

Scarlett: ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED

[@Smokecooks]

The hydra spines are venomous in both StarCraft 1 and 2 StarCraft 1 just focused more on the venom and SC 2 focuses more on the spines. The hydra venom is why General Warfield loses his arm on Char.

[@Blag_Cog]

I believe the hydra spines are shot out using some type of liquid used kind of like jet fuel. There is a lore entry about it somewhere.

[@bleep410]

shot them out like a dilophosaurus in sc1

[@nex]

I didn't bother to try looking up actual lore, but intuitively, this makes all the sense. Venom by itself is useless if your enemies are wearing armor with NBC shielding. It needs to come with some extremely spiky-pokey delivery device. Makes sense that something like a spine so razor-sharp it can pierce neosteel would be implied, even if the graphic depiction is dominated by toxic green goo.

[@PiGstarcraft]

Eyy thanks for the info yo!

[@dimiturdimitrov6699]

@@bleep410 Sadly that's only in Jurassic Park. Dilophosaurus never had venom (but was a pretty big top predator for his time, some may say APEX

[@enriquegarciacota3914]

Hydras can climb cliffs with their blades, according to canon. One can also be seen climbing through an elevator shaft in one of the sc1 cinematics

[@adamnevraumont4027]

Making them slow reapers (climb cliffs, just slowly) would be amusing.

[@PiGstarcraft]

dude it would be so cool if you could just tell them to slowly climb a cliff, super vulnerable whilst doing it, but if un-spotted, after 10 seconds they scale to the top!

[@doctorstainy]

@@PiGstarcraftCreephanger starring Infestor Stallone

[@Zeuts85]

That would be sweet. Get on this Blizzard.

[@nnelg8139]

Marines can also climb cliffs, using their arms.

[@PHPH_SDK]

As others have said, hydras shoot "grooved spines" in SC1. The green spit splattering out, I imagine, is like a natural lubricant they need to squeeze out the spines at a high speed.

[@lollertoaster]

Finally, a pro Zerg game where I don't yell "where is the anti-air?" the entire time.

[@xIcarus227]

Completely agreed. Zerg's anti-air units are too niche, so when they inevitably end up outside their niche scenarios they become almost worthless. Zerg's pathetic anti-air is such a bad game design decision, no other race has such an obvious weakness. This game is what a normal match should look like, drops should be punished when they're out of position just like in every other matchup. It's not normal for air units to freely roam around bases and armies the way they do.

[@kalkovonschpritzendorf1914]

Hydras always shot spikes, but in SC1 they always spewed out quite a lot of acid when spitting them out. I believe there were some cinematics in the Terran campaign that have shown the spikes being shot out. Also the books about the XelNaga artifacts (that were written long before CS2) described them as shooting spikes.

[@Pho7on]

Scarlett always puts out entertaining games, win or lose;

[@envyhysteria]

I don't play anymore but love watching games from time to time. She's one of my favorite consistent pros to watch.

[@Alientcp]

They shot grooved spines back in the day. With very strong muscles that could send the spines at supersonic speeds and made them capable of penetrate neo-steel. I would expect some saliva coming out of the mouth after achieving such feat.

[@geoffreystevens2916]

After all these years I still occasionally watch a fun SC2 pro game. This game (as much hate as it has gotten) is truly a masterpiece. I hope a new version comes out in the next 5-7 years.

[@herzallerliebst]

If she does the opposite of what she says, then that is a stratagem in war.

[@huelerhuelin3334]

She?

[@youngchristopher14]

@@krzysztofkuczynski3577 Damn.. imagine having a burner youtube account just to be a transphobe

[@youngchristopher14]

@@huelerhuelin3334 Hey why you delete your comment on my video lmao.

[@itwaslagiswear8511]

@@huelerhuelin3334 So youre gonna come try and harass me on my channel and then run away huh?

[@huelerhuelin3334]

@@youngchristopher14 I didn't delete anything. KZbin does that because they aren't a fan of the Truth.

[@geekytraveler5899]

I'd say it's not hydra that's powerful... it's Scarlett :)

[@imperialresolution]

Great Casting Pig. We Should Call Hydra Abilities, From Broodwar "Piggie BBQ Skewlers With Spines "

[@Floxxoror]

I think hydras lost their venom whem they fought together with the night elves.

[@Vittrich]

Probably a WoW expansion in the making...

[@Skaliton]

pointing out hydras are bad is...normal though. It is a t2 unit for 2 supply with its own building, 150 resource cost. What is it used for? Turning into lurkers. It isn't like the corrupter where both it and its evolved form are viable and useful. It is basically the broodwar scout where it is so rarely 'good' that it is major news if a top player uses it to be effective in any situation

[@HrHaakon]

> Hydra spitting facts, supersonic munitions, etc. > Overlord: SLAY IT, DON'T SPRAY IT!

[@andresu83]

In the cinematics of the campaing is shown that the hydrolisc shoots spikes.

[@rockandrolljew89]

I'd love to see her use overlords to dump creep so queens can aggressively put down tumors on the front and move up to tank. Maybe even dropalords to move the queens forward. She has so many from early game defense, might as well use that banked energy on frontline transfuse. Could make for a nasty push.

[@segalliongaming8925]

TLO tried to pull off tricks like dumping creep just to place forward creep tumors. I also remember IdrA building a creep highway in preparation for a mass Hydra attack on HuK.

[@jkkim6928]

“Troll is in the eye of the beholder” - Sarah Kerrigan

[@roll3park143]

i know it's different hydra, but still, Hail Hydra

[@GalenWill]

no but that is a different hydra

[@brylythhighlights4335]

I think that SC1 had text indicating they where spines, I guess it's just covered in some kinda goop?

[@Carnage4k]

500 grand for a SC2 tournament is crazy i've never seen this much in the pot before

[@davidbaker6422]

She played StarCraft Broodwar too much and actually saw a good Hydralisk, now there is no going back :P

[@fuckingstupidthatihavetoma2528]

he* scarlett is a dude.

[@bongkidemil4203]

@@deathytv3119 Indeed it is, Sasha Hostyn is her real name.

[@bongkidemil4203]

@@deathytv3119 Well, if you consider trans people as legitimate. xD

[@zodiark111]

@@fuckingstupidthatihavetoma2528 do you call a butterfly a caterpillar? simpleton

[@AbyssalManta]

Eh... that was always something a bit weird about SC1, but there has always been A LOT of art asset inconsistency in this game. I distinctly remember one cinematic where the Zerglings had Hydra heads; another where Overlords and Guardians appeared to be underwater... Basically, I'd hazard they just told their artists something like "Draw and animate a bunch of cool stuff, and we'll figure how to use it later." I always resent what they did to the Mutalisk. Mutalisks were clearly grotesque, winged moth larvae, with their butts above their heads kinda like a scorpion, but in SC 2 they decided to just give them super boring/sensible body plans. If you want to give a charitable explanation to the green fluid Hydras clearly shoot in SC1, you could view it as the byproducts of the chemical reaction involved in expelling the spines (much like how the anti-air Bugs in Starship Troopers shoot their plasma). Think of it as the discarded shell casings of artillery.

[@matthewangel1]

Love the vids Pig, enjoy you casting Scarlett games and talking through what she’s doing. Keep it up mate!

[@corberus3119]

@@gohomehero she

[@fuckingstupidthatihavetoma2528]

he* scarlett is a dude.

[@stoff6969]

still a boy

[@youngchristopher14]

@@stoff6969 Why so mad? Get a life

[@jungbauahs8807]

Spirit went out to harass Scarlett's bases just at the right time, when she was transitioning to Broodlords. Did he scout the transition? It felt like he knew it.

[@wholelottalight]

I wonder if the reason she didn't just max out her army cap was to allow for instant reinforcement in case something got to her back lines? Idk. Or she was just distracted. Probably that. Lol

[@huelerhuelin3334]

she?

[@wholelottalight]

@@huelerhuelin3334 I was under the impression that Scarlett was a female. I have never watched one of their streams or anything, but I always hear about her referred to using female pronouns. I guess it could just be me mishearing though. Sorry if I offended you.

[@huelerhuelin3334]

@@wholelottalight Offense taken by me means nothing. That's a Man.

[@youngchristopher14]

@@huelerhuelin3334 Please point to me where that affects your life at all. Get a grip

[@huelerhuelin3334]

@@youngchristopher14 It affects the entire world, our reality. Can you not see the affect it has on society? Letting people pretend to be something they aren't, just so they can feel better about themselves? I doubt you'll understand anything that requires you to use your own mind.

[@BukovTervicz]

3:01 Best analogy ever 😂😂❤

[@Xenotric]

is ok, she just thought she was playing kerrigan in coop

[@yopeace505]

Really enjoyed the video. Thank you

[@Aerational]

6:32 how tf does she put down all those creep tumors at once? Even at .25 speed it's like 5 at a time. Multiple hotkeys and just spam them or something?

[@evilqqq]

looks like tumors are bind to rapid fire button

[@hiramrichmond3341]

Rapid fire plus wave your cursor across the screen

[@PiGstarcraft]

Rapid fire: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kGa7h2ePm7Coa6c

[@DomenG33K]

She ALT or double clicks one tumor (or she has it on a high hotkey) and than hold rapid fire key and just flicks her mouse right on the outer edge of the creep tumor...

[@huelerhuelin3334]

She?

[@kamen42]

Ok, stupid question, but I haven't followed SC2 for a long time. What happened to hydras? Why are they bad? I remember they were a very popular unit when I still played the game. Edit: Ok, just got to the part where you explain it (6:25 if anyone else needs that)

[@TrentTube]

I think the spines had poison on them. Nothing too fancy.

[@Notsoshady4891]

If you afford a ghost, it's likely to be a good unit. It doesn't need a lot of help from other units to be useful, but it can be countered.

[@tom4ivo]

It was roaches that spat acid in SC1.

[@AgentSapphire]

Hydras shot green acid in SC1 because it was originally going to be a Warhammer game with the Terran being the Space Marines, the Zerg being the Tyranids, and the protross being... probably the Eldar. The assets were repurposed when Games Workshop decided not to go through with making the game. In warhammer there is a unit called a ravener which is a snakelike variant of the warrior that is often shown to have an armor piercing ranged attack of acidic toxins. Hell, some variants can even shoot maggots which crawl into armor and THEN explode into acid. It's probably why it was so wet and goopy in the first.

[@drewskiwest5284]

saw a couple comments, it seems like hydras need a venom debuff that can be upgraded at t3 and an upgrade at t2 that can jump cliffs like reapers do at t1 no upgrades. thats one way to make them slightly better... fungal + hydra venom = big combo. hydra+fungal+parasitic bomb = bigger anti air. but yeah.. we'll never see that. blizz can't balance hydras. they're either op or up. much like a couple protoss units and terran units. this is the problem with making a game with 2 expos. there's just too many units

[@kruemelblub1859]

that creep spread.. the entire map is creep !!!

[@zhadoomzx]

Hydras not only shot acid in SC1, their attack was also instant, not a projectile like in SC2 making them much more mocroable... like the marine. Hydralisk attack was the stupidest nerf they introduced in SC2.

[@Abduckted]

3:09 It has nothing to do with what you described. You're mixing the patronus spell which summons an animal that represents you VS A Boggart, a creature that turns into your fear.

[@kurzackd]

ye, was gonna write exactly that, and I'm not even a HP nerd... wtf, PiG ?! O_o P.S. Also, he might have confused with Dementors, who also use your fears against you... .

[@geuros]

So you say it's an extremely greedy build but also safe against anything, hmm

[@lolleonlolable]

totally "save".

[@PiGstarcraft]

anything that spirit can throw at her with his incredibly greedy + defensive build (3CC hellion banshee)

[@geuros]

​@@PiGstarcraft what build would then hard counter this without being all in?

[@DomenG33K]

@@geuros Go for a standard 1/1 marine push in many different form and it would be pretty strong...

[@celestialspark5697]

Hydralisks have been a meme unit for so much of SC2... only Zerg "standard" ground unit that shoots up but awful against air armies, literally lost to landed Vikings back in WoL with their original godawful stats before they got buffed over and over up to just being kinda bad, tons of weird restrictions on their use throughout their development life like needing to stay on creep, and takes like three to four counter units to make an entire core of them utterly ineffective for a quarter of the cost. But I guess they can win when Terran decides to barely defend their first two tanks after parking them on creep.

[@kazkz5331]

It's not that Hydras are good, it's just that Zerg didn't suck against air.

[@suunraze]

This looks so scuffed without drops

[@heavenstarcraft]

Scarlett thinks Hydras are bad? She needs to hang out with Meomaika :)

[@kizzagaming6523]

Who?

[@StarcraftDr]

@@kizzagaming6523cheesy z

[@fuckingstupidthatihavetoma2528]

he* scarlett is a dude.

[@bankaiiibankaaa4573]

The moment when spirit donated 2 full medivacs I knew the game is over.

[@waterzoip]

Ultras is such a troll unit

[@LeonItsMe]

Makes sense that Pros like to use Mines and Drops as a way to harass and lower Zerg income, and mass Hydra negates all of that better than Muta/ling/queen could ever do.

[@jaktuned963]

Your thumbnail is missing a word

[@onxiaftw]

Yes, I'm very disappointed that hydras shoot spikes instead of acid

[@jakolerov7291]

You might be thinking of venomancer when they used the hydralisk model for a hero on dota 1 on frozen throne warcraft 😝😝 all the ogs know dota 1 players rise up

[@kurzackd]

Call me crazy, but I think that Spirit could have a much easier time, *...and maybe even **_WIN_** ! :O...* ... as long as he had *ONE* simple thing... : **NEO-STEEL ARMOR.** *ALLOW ME TO EXPLAIN:* Notice how *A LOT* of Scarlett's game plan revolved around quickly-in-quickly-out base raids and sniping buildings ?? All that with only *LOW-DMG* units, but MANY of them. (i.e.a playstyle of... _harrassing QUANTITY_ *OVER* _hard-hitting QUALITY_ ...) *EVERY TIME* it would happen, Spirit would arrive to their defence *JUST* as Scarlett was done with the raid and was about to leave. ... Now, IMAGINE that Spirit had Neo-Steel armor researched ?? Well, then in *EACH* of te cases where Scarlett was attempting QIQO base snipes, then Spirit would have actually been *ON TIME !!!* ...So that even if Scarlett did finish off some buildings, he would have done so at the cost of a loss of a considerable size of his force each time he made an attempt... INSTEAD, Spirit NEVER made that upgrade, so each time Scarlett did the base snipes *FOR FREE.* . *That's some real FOOR FOR THOUGHT, eh ? :P* . *P.S.* Actually PiG himself *_DID_** comment* on Spirit's *LACK of Building Armor* at some point in the game around the ... ~15-minute mark or so... :P .

[@patrickkarlsenhristov2009]

Hey @PiG I mean this in the most constructive way possible. In general, you are a great caster, no doubt, but here is some feedback that can result in some improvement. What I dislike here in this one, that for me, would make it better, is that you let me know what I'm gonna see, before I see it (almost). Pros: - You set a cool expectation early for me to continue wanting to see it with some level of excitement. Cons: - You remove the "WOW experience". When I haven't watched SC for some time, and I come to watch this one, I experience that I'm too prepared for what's gonna happen, rather than be surprised and WOW'ed. - Also, experiencing this, lowers the excitement that was there a bit for me. Possible solution: Build the excitement, with a bit more cryptic statements. For example, "This game is really cool, and very unlike Scarlett", or along those lines, rather than, "She will do this, and she is going to do that, before it has happened" Hope this is received well. Keep it up!

[@nex]

Thank you so much for this! There were _so many_ matches during those four days; I barely managed to mostly watch the “important” ones on Saturday and Sunday, so unfortunately I didn't see much from Scarlett. In fact only a few days ago I finally got around to re-watching the final, because when I saw it live, I'd been already *so* tired, I missed a lot of detail. But now I'm *totally* ready to spend 20 minutes watching a cool game hand-picked and narrated by you!

[@ihacks7608]

Your crushing hard on this Scarlett...

[@standbyfortitanfall8899]

scarlett is best zerg pro to watch imo

[@itcomptek]

sweetness! I love hydras even though they suck. LOL

[@basboerboom9328]

Hydra's are pretty good, but that engage at 9:10 was just bad.

[@Vittrich]

yeah, the best Zerg in the world calls them awful but your bronze brain is probably onto something a StarCraft world champion has missed 🤡

[@BobMarly-z4n]

i mean she is using queens hydras and infestors together this isnt trolling except she had complained about hydras but other players arent thinking hydras are useless

[@News2020-b4u]

$500,000 USD?

[@gamercatsz5441]

Baneling zergs late game unit. 😂

[@puffin310]

I miss ICYFAR 😢

[@jkkim6928]

222 PiG soldout to Stormgate RIP

[@thomasbishop3494]

I want a pet Hydralisk. Or a pet Lurker.

[@amadeuszjankowski9212]

Needle spines.

[@asdfasdf-mn8iu]

Quite honestly @PiG, all the whining about hydras is probably mostly strategic by her, i feel. Hydras are bad vs. marines + medivacs, but they're pretty solid vs. most other T units if T is not set up perfectly. Tanks are really not that good vs. hydras because they aren't armoured and thus get no extra damage and they don't clump as badly as marines, so the AoE is not quite as significant for them. I never understood the whining about hydras, because their DPS is silly high, to the point they almost can compete in base trades (certainly vs. protoss).

[@As3th8r]

Here is your comment. ;D Great cast.

[@nex]

Done watching now … I enjoyed that a lot! Again, thanks for the great work, PiG! Just one more thing: I also read the comments. Mostly interesting, funny, insightful, as one would expect on this channel. But what if, hypothetically, there was also some arsehole spammer spraying ville hate-speech all over the comment section? Last I checked, the channel owner can remove individual comments, and also ban another account of commenting on their videos altogether by just banning them. (Or is it called blocking?) Is that still a thing? I know, I'm essentially saying, you're doing a kick-ass job, but could you do even *more* work? It's just … seeing too much mean-spirited trolling can be upsetting. And I don't have great confidence in KZbin moderation dealing with that, given that most of us viewers here don't pay anything for Premium. (Oh, and I just realised that you offer the option of becoming a member of your channel, and I'm not doing that either at the moment. Please forgive me, my current income is quite on the low end.) I dunno, maybe it would help to tell viewers to use the ‘Report’ feature when they see troll spam? Honestly got no idea whether that feature does anything or is just a placebo. Like I said, I don't have much faith in KZbin staff helping with that, but if I can, I'd like to do _something_ to make this place more civil and respectful.

[@PiGstarcraft]

I remove some comments, but don't have time to do it within a few hours of each upload, so it's a little intermittent

[@nex]

@@PiGstarcraft It did occur to me that when I see spam that was there for only 12 hours, because of time zones, that might as well be practically zero to you. Didn't mention it because my comment was already so circumlocutory logorrheic … but I understand that omnipresent moderation is impossible and I'm super happy about your quick reply and that you care about such issues and make an effort! Seriously, I couldn't ask for more. Cheers!

[@dancharleton]

@@PiGstarcraft I saw some comment threads where some inappropriate stuff was obviously deleted. Thank you for staying on top of it, no one needs to see that BS

[@autumneagle]

An entire almost 22 minute video on tactics. You make ONE COMMENT at the end about lore and every post is correcting you. Lol

[@DerTovemeister]

Never use hydras vs Terran

[@Oloring]

PIG, I love your casting and coaching videos, been a fan for a while now, but I gotta say: I find this overlay to be like the hart of my Ex - might seem colorful and fun, but in the end it's just ugly o.o

[@irrationalpie2323]

And we love her for that

[@corberus3119]

@@gohomehero her

[@huelerhuelin3334]

her?

[@Bbhhskooow24]

Him

[@lucuslopez6866]

i only mass hydra

[@mada9891]

Big fan of that hero zergling going to town on refineries. That's gotta be so annoying to see/hear the alerts.

[@inflatablewolfie]

wtf is bde?

[@tree_eats]

Big Dingo Energy.

[@PiGstarcraft]

​@@tree_eats I just learnt this one from the kids and I'm already using it lol

[@narmale]

what did you expect from him xD

[@domoniquewilliams2184]

lol bro called scarlett a 'HE' lmao

[@blazingscore004]

an honest mistake. unlike a lot others who do it out of spite

[@WoWUndad]

its always the zergs that socially crack

[@dapengun6050]

First my friendo.

[@RealKangarooFlu]

Playing Zerg take way more micro and focus. Scarlett is the greatest SC2 player ever. Fight me.

[@rogerdk4800]

He...... please use your eyes and brain.

[@LadyHermes]

Well, pretending that cats are dogs is already trolling in itself.

[@LucasCobb]

BDE :D :D :D :D :D

[@Caldaron]

holy f zerospace looks like garbage^^

[@lucine3155]

🙄 'promo sm'

[@babochee]

Women just game better

[@mihneatotescu5868]

That is a man.

[@mathissour]

Anyone else beat off 2 Scarlett’s?

[@HerrMau]

Yes, we all love Scarlett, but the commentator must be a real creep. He only talks about her and her strategies and how great she plays. Zero commentary about Sprit's play. Basically bad casting.

[@bartchi3840]

why everyone says hydras are trash? They are so fucking good dps, also wrecks all protoss gateways units

[@BukovTervicz]

He explains why multiple times They have the same stats as ~1 marine, but the cost of 3 Also -- like the old ultralisk -- their collision box is ass; they get stuck on each other, making them clump up & get even worse efficiency in fights

[@BrutusFanboy12345]

This looks like a bronze match.

[@DomenG33K]

What are you talking about. They have more things in minute 5 than a bronze in late game min 15...???

[@kalle947]

I like Scarlett he is one of the best players

[@vegavak]

SC1 was a better game

[@michaelcraven9539]

Is commentator trolling when he calls that guy a girl?

[@fluffypenguin3424]

That’s a shim

[@nkees]

Dang these guys are both so good.

[@kinggarithos888]

HE