Pill stove hack

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6 ай бұрын

Unsatisfied with the tepid heat from my Pill Stove, I've decided to go out and build my own and see if I can improve on the original Using easily bought compounds called vermiculite and perlite, i try to see if a larger surface area helps. At the same time a trial of both materials and common meths in some "trangia lite" burners we see which has the longest lasting and perhaps efficient burn.

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@neotrekk 5 ай бұрын

I am so puzzled why so many youtubers test a camp stove by just lighting it on fire and timing how long it burns. The primary use for camp stoves is to produce some hot water. So any testing should measure how much fuel and how long it takes to produce, say, 1/2 liter of hot water. And, a simple to use stove makes camping more fun. The PillBottle Stove instructions are so simple... 1) stack two Stones then 2) set the pot of top and 3) light the Stones. That delivers the most BTUs into the pot in the shortest time... in 5 minutes you have 1/2 liter of hot water for your coffee or meal prep. Setting the Stones on top of any stand, as in this video, dramatically reduces the performance of the Stones stove. Using just one Stone, or a stack of 3 Stones, or two Stones flat, also reduces the performance a lot. We learned this by doing over 250 tests during the 2 years it took to perfect the PillBottle Stones Stove.

@ryan92084 Ай бұрын

I've noticed the same trend of just not following the instructions. Thanks for the interesting product.

@dougfields5798 6 ай бұрын

Try that again but with a windshield I think a lot of the heat went across the table ,your tea just might be a bit warmer,our you could just put that lump of stone in an Esbit folding stove and the kettle on top .

@ciliciaann3504 Ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing. Please be more careful. Don't sit in front of your setup with your legs under the table. If it falls over you can't get out of the way and will get a pot of boiling water in you lap, this will make you a very unhappy camper. Sit side saddle. Also don't stir a hot pot without holding the pot handle or better take it off the stove, stir and replace. Don't ask me how I know this. 😎👍

@nm-ge4tb 6 ай бұрын

🙏🙏👌👌👍👍great piece of info on the burners

@justgoingout6824 6 ай бұрын

Thank you.

@awatt 6 ай бұрын

I have been thinking along similar lines and need to watch your video again more carefully. Thanks for the upload it will save me a lot of time.

@justgoingout6824 6 ай бұрын

Always glad to help

@muddymike450 6 ай бұрын

👍interesting idea, well done

@randyyeager 6 ай бұрын

never understood why someone making a coffee or tea in the woods would bring an extra pot to boil water in when they could just use the cup they're going to have their coffee or tea in.

@educational4434 6 ай бұрын

Because a lot of people don't want to discolor or damage the cup that they drink out of by heating it up with open flame or caking it in soot. Or they need to boil a larger amount of water. Or they need to boil water for two people. Or the materials they use for their preferred cup do not allow it to be placed over open flame. Or the stove surface does not accommodate the narrow width of a cup

@mastabas 6 ай бұрын

Personally. I have a double walled cup that takes up very little space because it hugs the inside of my toaks. Don't burn my lips and I can't boil in the cup because of the double wall

@randyyeager 6 ай бұрын

lol.....dudes out by himself for the day, why carry extra if you don't have to. And what difference does it make to get soot on or discolor one cup over another? And if you looked at the stove he used, it'd fit his cup. I mean, I can make up a bunch of reasons to bring both, that doesn't mean they are good reasons. @@educational4434

@randyyeager 6 ай бұрын

see, that makes sense to me. But since he's not using a double walled cup, I don't see why he'd do it.@@mastabas

@soldier-Dave 5 ай бұрын

This got rather tedious…and balancing the kettle like that is a recipe for disaster.

@jeremymanning2132 6 ай бұрын

Nice video but it is a lot easier and quicker to use a trangia style stove and it would give a better boil. Good to see these ideas though. 👍👍

@justgoingout6824 6 ай бұрын

Always good to see if a bit of mix and match might help. I do know that my coffee was considerably hotter than the tea earlier🙂

@neotrekk Ай бұрын

1)The Stones can't spill fuel out onto the ground, like a Trangia. 2) You stack 2 Stones, put the pot on top, then light it -- that wastes zero fuel and all BTUs flow onto the pot... no 'warmup' with no pot on top, like a Trangia ,where 2 minutes of fuel are wasted to get the little blue flames shooting out. 3) When done cooking there is no waiting a long time for the stove/unused fuel to cool off, no careful pouring the leftover fuel into the bottle with the mosquitoes biting you and it's starting to rain. (And that leftover fuel might have some water in it if their was any boilover. ) 4) Next meal... no careful measured filling of the Trangia. Just pop open the pill bottle, stack two Stones, set the pot on top, and light. 5) Don't accidently step on your Trangia... it kinda gets crushed.

@familyshare3724 3 ай бұрын

Nice to know the material. Glad to see your experiment. What advantage does a "stone sponge" offer over liquid alcohol?

@neotrekk Ай бұрын

1)The Stones can't spill fuel out onto the ground, like my cokecan alcohol stoves. 2) You stack 2 Stones, put the pot on top, then light it -- that wastes zero fuel and all BTUs flow onto the pot... no 'warmup' with no pot on top, like my cokecan stoves ,where 2 minutes of fuel are wasted to get the little blue flames shooting out. 3) When done cooking there is no waiting a long time for the stove/unused fuel to cool off, no careful pouring the leftover fuel into the bottle with the mosquitoes biting you and it's starting to rain. (And that leftover fuel might have some water in it if their was any boilover. ) 4) Next meal... no careful measured filling of the little alcohol stove. Just pop open the pill bottle, stack two Stones, set the pot on top, and light. 5) The Stones never wear out or fail... like the tape that peeled off my Anti-Gravity Gear BCS-2 Stove.

@familyshare3724 Ай бұрын

@@neotrekk great answer. I'm skeptical, but can't knock it till i try it.

@familyshare3724 Ай бұрын

I assume space, oxygen between fuel and pot produces a hotter flame. I assume the fuel at the top of the stone will burn inefficiently, cool. I don't think the liquid drains down and burns from the bottom. Hypotheses to be tested and measured.

@familyshare3724 Ай бұрын

@@neotrekk i don't think any heat is released from the top of the stone in contact with the pot. But the sides of the stone may emit more heat than the surface of liquid ethanol in a can of similar volume.

@mouseketeery 19 күн бұрын

Or ...... you could have used the windshield that comes in the kit, which retains the heat!

@tommozingo4761 6 ай бұрын

Do you have a link to where you got your table?

@justgoingout6824 6 ай бұрын

Hello Tommo, Its best that you have a look at Outsider Tanks KZbin channel. He has the link to the table. 1st time user, and i'm quite impressed. Hope this helps.

@tommozingo4761 6 ай бұрын

@@justgoingout6824 Thank you.

@smorgknorl 6 ай бұрын

2 minutes in and still not showing what you are pouring into what? Please think of others time

@markraciborski4289 2 ай бұрын

Things I'm mulling over, watching grass grow. 😅 I believe each stone holds 1 ounce of fuel. There is just so much energy in 1 ounce of alcohol, you can use that up with a 3 minute blow torch burn or a comfortable 10 minute burn, both doing the same thing? People who are obsessed with trying to achieve heating 8-12 ounces of water in 1 minute I don't get. Here is what should count, within 10 minutes, can I get a boil? What method reduces yellow flames over blue, reducing the mess to the bottom of the cup, pot? Why, soot, crap on the bottom and up the sides of the cooking containers are unburnt residue, wasted fuel. Flames licking up the sides of a container probably aren't exactly effective. A gentle burning flame is more useful for more than just heating water in zero time. Yes, you can add a simmer ring, but let's not add that to this. Also, take note, perlite sucks up four times its weight in water, vermiculite sponges up to sixteen times its weight. I'm assuming alcohol base fuel has the same percentage.

@neotrekk Ай бұрын

Each Stone absorbs 10 grams of alcohol.

@markraciborski4289 Ай бұрын

@neotrekk What is a slight decimal error, minor unit error? 😀

@randyyeager 6 ай бұрын

it's said how it's spelled Ver Mic U lite

@justgoingout6824 6 ай бұрын

Thanks Randy, had a bit of brain fart whilst making the vid. The use of the normal kettle was for effect. The waterbottle combo set I made up I just fished out of its case, could have used it , but decided otherwise.