Pillars TACTICS? - Obsidian's Josh Sawyer on the Past, Present and Future of Pillars of Eternity

[@JetConvoy]

We all want Pillars of Eternity 3 but this sounds awesome too!

[@limitbreaknet]

Hopefully Avowed does well and we get both.

[@wormerine8029]

Gimme PoE3 - or another Party based RPG in Eora or not. I just want more Obsidian RPGs.

[@techieg33k]

I Agree I want a Pillars 3

[@techieg33k]

@@limitbreaknet yes!

[@DrooledOn]

I’m only interested in obsidian if Josh sawyer or Chris avellone are in charge. Maybe Tim Cain.

[@Mattznick]

I will play anything Josh Sawyer works on, the dude just knows how to make good ass games and his fantasy games are just peak RPGs

[@limitbreaknet]

Agreed

[@IDeclareWar11D2]

Thanks for the interview love Josh Sawyer and his games he’s one of if not my favorite game director/developer.

[@limitbreaknet]

Thank you for the kind words!

[@Tordek_1989]

I would love a Pillars Tactics game

[@limitbreaknet]

Fingers crossed 🤞

[@voltcorp]

the "metaphysical coating" is my favorite part of Eora, and how well it "trickles down" into interesting and diverse social and cultural ramifications. it's truly a higher category of worldbuilding that shows off Sawyer's unique combination of TTRPG experience, academic knowledge of History, and personal political beliefs. That being the case I'm honestly excited for any kind of gameplay to occur in that world as long as it carries the "Obsidian guarantee" of "you can meaningfully engage with the lore" while playing.

[@limitbreaknet]

Well said. And yeah. It’s something Sawyer is clearly passionate about!

[@rknowling]

For me the metaphysics is the core, and I do everything I can to ignore the combat distractions. I play exclusively for lore, story, metaphysical questions that make me think!

[@WTF-zs8cvWT]

i just want Josh to make more CRPGs !!! the man just gets it! he's an CRPG legend!!!

[@briankieryczuk8307]

Really not sure why this channel has so little subs I've watched your Fergus interview and Josh interviews now and you really do put on a good interview.

[@limitbreaknet]

Thank you so much! We’re just getting started and building from the ground up, so it just takes time. If you’re passionate about the content, please consider sharing it! That’s how we help boost subscribers. :) thank you sp much for the kind words.

[@jean-alexandrethibault3892]

These interviews are really really good

[@limitbreaknet]

Thank you so much for the kind words 🙏

[@TucoBenedicto]

Yes, please.

[@limitbreaknet]

Agreed

[@luQ89]

Pillars of Eternity 3! Please! Please! Please!

[@limitbreaknet]

Hopefully one day!

[@Reruro]

Pillars Tactics would be absolutely sick

[@KingMJAH]

I love all the lore in the pillars character creation, makes me feel like I’m fully fleshing out the backstory and sets the tone for playing for me, I’d love to see a pillars tactics game

[@limitbreaknet]

Haha. I told Josh people would enjoy that!

[@gamingvyse2376]

Whatever Obsidian serves to I am there!

[@christopherr.561]

Appreciate the interview and coverage. I have always really respected Josh and appreciate what he has given/contributed to gaming. If I were starting a game studio he would be my first call. Tim Cain would be 2nd. :)

[@limitbreaknet]

Thanks for the kind words!

[@joshstivers9042]

Josh, Obsidian's take on a Japanese style Tactics game set the POE universe is a day 1 buy. Or even a Heroes of Might and Magic style with an amazing story and tons of customization would definitely get my money.

[@limitbreaknet]

Lots of thought put into this. I like it!

[@burningsheep4473]

There's a quite a few ways this could be done. Blackguards for instance did away with exploration and mostly only had the combat encounters and static town screens. It still had a decent story, nice visuals and music. Mechanicus is similar in structure, but even more boiled down to the essentials. Icewind Dale did still have the maps to explore while also being quite linear overall. Only the latter - similarly as Storm of Zehir - lets the player build the party themselves, though Mechanicus' party characters didn't actually have any character and can be built freely, so the result there was similar.

[@ryanwilliam5386]

I’m here for it. Avowed, Outer Worlds 2, another Fallout, etc. Keep bringing it. I’m here for it all, though I sincerely hope Obsidian has a few isometric CRPGs left in them. Love the genre and they killed it with POE/POE2.

[@rknowling]

I love Josh Sawyer's work, and hope he looks after himself! ❤ PoE1 had a great story and a fascinating central moral dilemma. I felt that the framing story of PoE2 slipped, and then the "we love combat" crew distracted the devs from good storytelling. (Starting out by destroying all we had built in PoE1 made me really sad!) Hopefully Avowed and then PoE3 have better storytelling with more compelling central philosophical/ moral themes. After all, it was BG1 that taught me to love philosophy in storytelling hehe

[@talon6890]

More real time with pause, please!

[@88oscuro]

I would take a mmo in a heartbeat, World of Eora

[@Kasgaatvaaknaarbuiten]

We are very lucky with PoE2, BG3, Pathfinder Wotr.

[@oce1989]

Both games need to have controller support for PC. Steam Decks are selling like crazy and these games deserve to be played!

[@JoostDamenMusic]

Such a cool guy, love his bicycle videos too

[@dmitryferulev4606]

loved 2nd game dearly, but for some reason, never heard about it before and found it on accident. Wonder why

[@Schmitty7546]

I've never played Expeditions: Rome (which is a kind of tRPG/cRPG mix, from what I hear), but I've seen some stuff on it, and am interested to give it a try. I wonder if a Pillars tactics game could end up looking a little something like that? Or if they would just go full tactics, to break further away from the deep rpg elements.

[@limitbreaknet]

Sounds like there’s a bunch of different ideas swirling around at the studio.

[@ChrisMattar]

PoE 3 would be so awesome, not sure theyll have the liberty or motivation to do it under MS though. Which would be a shame. Image PoE3 with BG3 fidelity and voice acting!

[@limitbreaknet]

Hopefully if Avowed does well 🤞

[@zentonil]

My impression is that Microsoft allows their studios total liberty in the projects they choose to create. If anything, the underperformance of first party titles this generation is due to Phil Spencer being too hands off.

[@xkepakko]

I'm almost certain Sawyer did say they would def make PoE3 if MS gave "BG3 money" for it. EDIT: ...and it was mentioned in this. That's what you get when you comment before you've watched the video completely.

[@Max-zs6ur]

Basically Xcom with Pillars IP. Josh can do that and it would be a dream game

[@VishnuZutaten]

I can't wait for avowed. Hopefully this will be the new Dark Messiah of M&M. And now This... Ive funded both poe games, would put my money happily for tactics.

[@qriderjoe9793]

PILLARS TACTICS?!! Yes. Please

[@VishnuZutaten]

Just take my money. 100%

[@krimsynn]

Lovws PoE 1 and 2

[@VishnuZutaten]

M$ should get TOGETHER OE, TomCain and inexile for next Fallout. And most definitely please do fallout tactics.

[@Banefane]

Isn't this video older than 4 days?

[@OscarGiudici]

Fingers crossed!

[@limitbreaknet]

Indeed

[@Eupolemos]

Epic intro 😂

[@limitbreaknet]

Couldn’t leave it out. 🤣

[@8684LYFE]

Pillars-COM: War of the Heralds

[@limitbreaknet]

🤣 that’s awesome

[@Gothenburg1]

Pillars is my fave crpg, while I admit bg2 is still the best thing in the genre

[@limitbreaknet]

Hopefully we get Pillars 3 one day!

[@Visual_Writer]

Hm. If you play POE on higher difficulty you do have a tactics game within.

[@vaporsaver]

Pillars 3 please

[@blackfistxu7953]

I LOVE EORA PLEASE GIVE US ANOTHER CRPG IN THIS UNIVERSE!

[@limitbreaknet]

Fingers crossed 🤞

[@adelvoid1530]

the good news is that Avowed is not PoE3!

[@FBuilding]

Pentiment love

[@mauricionavarro8224]

Josh is the only one who can bring back an old game (a great game back in the days) Dungeon Siege!!!! ;) And I want more about pillars!!!!!

[@ScrewyArtis]

Its banner saga but pillars!

[@limitbreaknet]

That would be dope

[@Aptyc3]

Только сделайте пожалуйста игру по образцу 1 части а не 2. Пожалуйста

[@onodera3964]

Combat was the worst part of Pillars, so I honestly would not be thrilled with Pillars Tactics if it didn't redo the combat system to feel much meatier.

[@khorneflakes2175]

Avowed doesn't look appealing at all to me, i loved poe and am currently playing deadfire.

[@Polovene]

This guy Josh uptalks, has an annoying demeanor.. and I can't say I think he has done anything Genius.. but man: It is so obvious he has great work ethics.. I can taste his methodology playing PoE , if that makes sense, and he talks like someone who gets things done, right Even impossible things like PoE. I learned some stuff by listening to his interviews, specially the behind the scenes work which I highly recommend

[@mikeet207]

Please please don't do a tactics game, the iron is hot, do Pillars 3. Get backers, get funding, go all out.

[@wildstar8083]

6 party > 5. You are dead wrong Josh.

[@ryderrr08]

Pillars Tactics ? Feels like a downgrade from Pillars 1 and 2. RTWP is not tactics ? All tactical games feels the same.

[@aliens4143]

I think that's true. There is a populist, d*ck-waving legend that the more hardcore, pure and hard a tactical (or really whatever) game is, simply the better it is. But the truth is, they simply become all the same, but not only that, they almost cease to become games, and become pure routines, methods and practices and pure hard-bitten attitude. Gone is the game, and all there is, is nothing but buttons, timings, learning it all by heart, often arbitrary fake-rules that are pure extra. (E.g. some games in the past require lots of saves and doing rounds differently again, as part of the - still bad - design [unless one wants 1000 factors of arbitrariness repeated all again], but since 15 years or so, due to a single Japanese game, that's partly forbidden too.) I've just been on 1-2 weeks of Heroes of Might and Magic 3, and what an overrated, "reddity"* mess of near worthlessness this is. I'm just trying to finish the first mission (although the campaigns seem in wrong order!), to forever disrespect this irrationally overhyped relic of less than mediocrity. *Reddity refers to the mindless "yes-men" attitude of its fake legend of "addictiveness" and "adventure" that is in fact a misconstruction based on ignorant 11 year olds when they played the demo in 1999... Without reddity conformity, there is nothing to confirm this in a purely factual way. The game requires ludicrous exactitude - not perfection! But arbitrarily doing missions "exactly only one way!", even if naturally there 500 ways (and 489 may be super-logical)... The legend of addictiness presupposes that at least 50 or so ways would be viable. This is not so. Even though the gameplay itself provides zero logic otherwise for why this should be so. That is typical shi**y old mission design (I also noticed in Battlezone 1, coincidentally), there is nothing magic about it. I even know this from ancient old attempts with editors myself, it is basically lack of playtesting and actual respect for the player... (If you ever make a mission... you will possibly do this mistake by default, that's all.) It is objectively bad, by their own and general standards. It is just in more recent years that such stuff has become glorified, partly due to reddit-conformity and other superstition. But that is just an aside to how there is nothing fun, atmospheric of "gamey" about it. This kind of stuff is some of the most primitive of human activities (save for online discussions, lmao). Or even something like Ace Combat 7... I think such design is more naturally part of Japanese games due to the culture, but no matter. In this game one may weasel through most missions, but they will make one feel miserable nonetheless, and to avoid that one needs a certain perfection of all moves and timings. And while the pure feeling of being in such a fighter jet combat sim (with mixtures of futurism and traditionalism) may seem "awesome", it just gets ruined and disappears entirely once one needs to focus on the perfect execution and doing each step right... Again and again. Basically a simple principle to understand, but hardly anybody ever mentions it or talks about it honestly. (Even though an unexpected alternative might blow everyone's minds.)