Piloting BOEING 737MAX into Bogota | Cockpit Views

JustPlanes on the Flight Deck of the AEROMEXICO Boeing 737MAX (XA-MAG) en route from Mexico City to Bogota Colombia as AM761. The video you see here is a short version of the approach and landing at El Dorado International Airport after a 4 hour flight
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Just Planes continues its AeroMexico series wiith a 5th program of the countries national carrier on its newest aquisition, the 737MAX. For this film we selected a longer international route flying into Bogota Colombia and a shorter domestic sector to Monterrey where low visibility and a low ceiling allowed us to capture a Go-Around/Missed Approach, always something interesting to cover. Lots of nice scenery and a look at the new very modern cockpit of the Boeing 737.
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[@DodoSkydrums]

I'm confused... It is flying again or what?

[@itsnaveenn]

@@DodoSkydrums no it's recorded

[@aviatorboss9978]

"after touchdown i will extend the flaps" lol that got me

[@nadsonsantos378]

I had fly on a 737 Max 8 and that was definitely one of the best flight ever

[@ivancastano8313]

The crew feels embarrassed when ATC in Bogota responds in Spanish. For the purpose of thus video, they wanted everything in English. But normally the conversations would be in spanish between hispanic crews and ATC of spanish speaking countries.

[@embrj1453]

not embarrased, just like hey, im talking in inglish

[@alejandrobrand3004]

The phraseology of the coms should follow ICAO and it would be in english, in Spanish each country would potentially use their own lingo which might make it difficult for pilots to understand even if they speak Spanish. I am Colombian and I fly in the US and I think I wouldn't be able to communicate with ATC in Spanish

[@Hk-uw8my]

​@@alejandrobrand3004 thats wrong, what you saying about that each country has its own lingo also applies with english, for example, American english is not like british english. Spanish is an icao language and the phraseology is controlled, you cant say on the radio every word you know in spanish but you ll always use the same standard radio phraseology, just like with english.

[@gereskala]

@@alejandrobrand3004al contrario mientras más familiarizado estés con el idioma más seguro es, si el ATC y el piloto hablan el mismo idioma MATERNO es decir tienen un dominio total del idioma que usan es mucho más viable y seguro que ellos se comuniquen con ese idioma ya que así entre ellos no habrá ningún mal entendido aunque pilotos y atc estén capacitados para hablar inglés, jamás van a hacerlo como su lengua materna , por eso es bueno que si son hispanos y en sus destinos hablan ese idioma pues aprovecharlo

[@alejandrobrand3004]

@@gereskala cuando lo ves así, tiene lógica pero en mi caso por ejemplo creo que sería diferente. Yo soy piloto comercial mono y multimotor en USA. También soy instructor de vuelo CFII y MEI. Soy colombiano y mi lengua materna es el español pero aprendí a volar en USA. No me considero capaz de comunicarme con ATC en español, precisamente porque no me siento cómodo con la fraseología

[@Aurayia2218]

I enjoy listening to these pilots and I enjoy that view outside. Amazing plane, great pilots, and an awesome landing that sounds great in multiple views. Love seeing other planes during taxing as well. From the cockpit view to the window view, I love them both. I love flying through the clouds; that was amazing and beautiful. Beautiful landscape and terrain, and amazing view of the city. Awesome video, I love it.

[@ajdijkvan7831]

JP......This video gives such a good insight to the world of Aviation! Thanks again! Wish you all the best for the new week JP;) Evening greetings Betsy.

[@sohammallik7089]

B737 max!!!! In the sky!!!!! Very nice , awesome, wonderful

[@itsnaveenn]

It's not live it's recorded

[@sohammallik7089]

@@itsnaveenn hmm, but I hope that it'll come back in 2021.

[@itsnaveenn]

@@sohammallik7089 yes The tests have finishet Airlines have to implement them

[@wendyraymond1751]

Truly wonderful thanku so much ...Have a fantastic week love an God bless x

[@marc-antoinehaddad7226]

Pilot induced oscillation. This is when you correct your own over-corrections that get exponentially exaggerated.

[@marka7903]

Yep

[@pablonavas024]

if you look at the results he did a pretty smooth landing.

[@maxpowerule]

@@pablonavas024 jajaja horrendo aterrizaje sin saber volar solo empuja jala los últimos 50 pies porque no sabe cómo wow suave , su porquería de aterrizaje .

[@JustMe00257]

Correct. Awful PIOs after very late disconnect in VMC = doubtful handflying skills.

[@ToddHendry]

So all of you have flown the 737 then?

[@davidcole333]

Loved this!

[@CaptainAirplane]

Nice video

[@tylerzylstra5617]

Watching this after the CEBU DC9 video. It's crazy to see this and think we thought the DC9 had a modern cockpit and controls in the day!!

[@marogames5211]

My 3rd native city

[@haydaral-assadi8946]

Thank you 🤲🤲

[@Charkel]

11:13 Woow check out those yoke moves!

[@samueldavidgonzalezgomez4099]

al ver este canal me enamoro mas de la aviación

[@user-ld6pd5kl4r]

love

[@canofanger]

11:15 as some below alluded to, oscillating the controls in the flare is a terrible habit. I have flown with a (very) few who do this even on a calm day. It can be uncomfortable for passengers, especially when the oscillation is in pitch. Most manufacturers also state in their limitations not to do it, as it can result in structural failure at any speed including lower speeds. Imagine those hydraulically powered control surfaces being jostled that rapidly.

[@THYB737]

There is no concern about the mechanics or hydraulics. They should withstand way heavier inputs on a gusty day. But yes, it's extremely unnecessary and therefore stupid.

[@lucashurst4191]

Love to see this plane flying again. The 737 max will now most likely be one of the safest planes.

[@jsgermany3955]

It could have been from the start if Boeing hadn't put profit above human lives... The safety-relevant MCAS was deliberately kept secret by Boeing so that customers could easily retrain their pilots from the 737NG to the 737MAX. The most important selling point was a sham that claimed 346 deaths! Why is Mr. Muilenburg not still in prison for premeditated murder in 346 cases?! If Boeing has been tinkering with their MAX for a year and a half, the problems must be much bigger than is publicly admitted. You cannot endlessly modernize a concept that is over fifty years old! Much more would have needed a brand new successor model for the 737 series, but discarded for fear of the Airbus 320neo family. That was a big mistake and the 737MAX is already the biggest disaster in Boeing's history. Hopefully more and more airlines don't want this messed-up bird anymore! After the Neo's, Airbus should also bring a successor to the 320 family on the market. I think they are already working on that in Toulouse...

[@tomstravels520]

After the A380/A350/A220/787/A330 Neo/A320Neo family/A340/747-8i and the older A319

[@lucashurst4191]

@@tomstravels520 SHUTUP.

[@tomstravels520]

LucasAU no. I just pointed out a fact that no one has died in an accident in any of those planes I listed so all of those are safer than the Max

[@beatsalgado]

scratch that JAJA

[@91nicbra]

Those roll inputs thou...

[@bagels377]

@@Kumar_Chamarti Hey, he still got it on the ground. Everyone has their own way!

[@anniehyams1169]

Thank you so much Just Planes for my beautiful red heart and my lively message sorry I had to miss a few due to tooth and gum infection and I was in pain but today I am feeling much better thank you and really enjoyed the invitation and the live chat thank you so much

[@aviationslay5685]

When boeing 737 max back to service the aircraft is safe to flight i hope everything going ok fingers cross never happen again in the past God bleesed max aircraft stay safe i hope crew on max aircraft land safe home...

[@andrewsmactips]

Captain Fidget.

[@joandominguez1941]

Si..si..mu bonito todo...yo no volaré jamás en esa máquina.. tened en cuenta que las compañías ofrecen información del tipo de avión...ahí lo dejo

[@LSZB_Airport_Spotter]

👌🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@kenmunn4421]

What the hell was that yoke motion during touchdown? Don’t think you see that in the Manual.

[@davidgilbertotorresvargas7749]

Who did not laugh when ATC respond in Spanish as is usual in Latinamerica?

[@n1msu]

Watching the captain and his movements at the beginning of the video even before the plane started moving disturbed me but I don't know why. His RTO comment seemed a bit basic too. I'm sure it's just me. Fastest ac I've flown is a 172

[@Charkel]

Did you see the landing?

[@Choopremo]

Man the way he maneuvers the landing was quite troublesome to look at

[@samukavieira3226]

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼🇧🇷

[@cgulden]

Great landing

[@eliyaahuu]

Pliiiiiiiis come to Chile (SCEL) or (SCCI)

[@EconomyFlyer]

tbh i kinda miss seeing the 737MAX flying

[@captainmike6673]

What are those aileron inputs during the flare?? Maybe the issue is more pilot training than anything else

[@THYB737]

As another comment said: pilot induced oscillations.

[@sundar999]

@@THYB737 I didn't see any "oscillations" and at that low airspeed you need to have big inputs on the yoke to get significant reaction. Fly the plane, don't let the plane fly you!

[@sundar999]

@@Hk-uw8my I agree. The roll rate is so slow here that quick inputs won't have much reaction. I thought about it and I think you are right :)

[@MrRotorBow]

Does the 73 MAX have a hot mic? Never seen the “Push to Talk” for the crew to communicate with each other in any airliners. In the Citations yes but not these. Interesting 🤔

[@THYB737]

Most of the time the crew on the 737 attach a rubber band to the mic switch so they don't have to push it everytime to for talking.

[@Dutchbird757]

Yes it has. Actually 2 switches to make it a hot-mic. Old NG's and ones with an old Audio Control Panel and yoke-mic switch that doesn't stick anymore use a rubber elastic band. I've seen it a few times but mostly in the simulators due to their usage.

[@THYB737]

"I thought 737 MAX have been grounded " - comments coming soon. Stay tuned... Edit: Unprofessional crew. Sounds like they never do a propriate briefing and now are forced to say something for the camera. Very ridiculous.

[@tomstravels520]

Damn you beat me to it

[@amtahboub]

I thought 737 MAX are grounded

[@susantamallik2301]

I also

[@naphtalite]

This was before the grounding!

[@sohammallik7089]

@@naphtalite yeah, but I hope that it'll return in the sky later year..........

[@Razazi747]

Was the Captain practicing his drifting skills for when he drives home after this pairing during the last 100 feet?

[@leandrofrey5301]

Razazi hahaha Made my day😂

[@Username-ww2cd]

Razazi It's a good technique to stabilise the plane using small movements whilst flaring

[@TomOConnellMusic]

@@Username-ww2cd small movement?!

[@jairopa2]

En países en donde se habla español, pues hablar español. No ser tan rebuscados.

[@cvaldivia93]

Noob question: what is the rotating wheel near the pilot's leg?

[@emilianoruiz7681]

that's the trim wheel.

[@Dutchbird757]

Pilot induced oscillation x 10! Wow, I have never ever seen anyone seen doing that PIO so extreme. That is a red flag and should be a Linecheck failure. And no guarding the controls? Isn't that good airmanship below say 5000ft? I know the Boeing's FCTM doesn't say anything but still.

[@yehezkielraindodamanik8632]

Vidio tahun berapa

[@gusttavoo]

She was the only confident one.

[@phenom8373]

if you can make a good landing,you're a good pilot. am i right?

[@timothy13467]

No, If you can make a safe landing that is in the touch down zone and on the centerline, then you are a good pilot

[@ksm1985]

Very unprofessional hesitations, talking over each other. Seems nervous

[@jsgermany3955]

Is probably more of a Mexican temperament...😅

[@canofanger]

I would suspect the atmosphere would be much different without a cameraman there and the need to speak in english. But yeah, he did seem pretty nervous.

[@ksm1985]

@@canofanger I would put him on baggage handling duties for the foreseeable

[@GilbertoFreitasMendes]

A very strange way to fly. I found the first officer quieter than the commander. And in the final moments I didn't understand what maneuver was that on the stick, it looked like a nervous breakdown. Moving the ailerons from one side to the other, as if inducing the aircraft to some different behavior. I see that many speak ill of 737 Max that is not ready ... But I believe it's the crews who aren't ready for the 737 Max. Crew member wanting to fly aircraft as if flying a simple twin-engine aircraft.

[@roneagle8038]

Really glad I wasn't on that flight!

[@michaelreeves8164]

I'm not a pilot, but on final he was moving that wheel like me dodging potholes in my car. Is this normal?

[@THYB737]

Sometimes it is necessary to counteract gusty winds but this one was unnecessary, pilot induced oscillations.

[@michaelreeves8164]

Thank you for your reply.

[@THYB737]

@@michaelreeves8164 you're welcome.

[@JuanPablo-lx8wo]

It's not normal, it'd called Pilot Induced Oscillations

[@herrhornbuckele5227]

Judging by the MAX being grounded for aroung 18 months now - is that how old the videos usually are before they're uploaded? Also always a bit scary to see the deathtrap flying in retrospec - knowing what's going on with the plane...

[@tomstravels520]

On the video descriptions usually the first link takes you to where you can buy the video and it says in that page the year it was filmed

[@herrhornbuckele5227]

@Andy Larson No true, I'm just saying the grounding is imposed for a long time now and still they have unreleased footage from before the grounding.

[@yehezkielraindodamanik8632]

Eheee

[@eddygonzalez6569]

Pilot seems kind of crazy with the joke

[@TheoneandonlyEETFUK]

HOLD UP...

[@pablo2097]

2:59 La primera oficial: "¿Por qué putas me responden en español?" Hahahaha

[@JuanPablo-lx8wo]

Jajajajajajaja

[@gerna2czu10]

Más bien dirá el ATC ¿por qué putas me habla en inglés si es mexicana? Pienso que para estos videos, antes deberían aclarar en frecuencia o en algún rmk en el FPL que se habla en inglés para efectos del video en curso que están grabando, así no pasaría ese tipo de conflictos.

[@focus678]

Still, fly this killing machine?.

[@susantamallik2301]

Omg!! 737 max have come back 😱😱😱😱

[@itsnaveenn]

No it's recorded

[@nadsonsantos378]

Nop

[@GNX157]

Wow this pilot shouldn’t be allowed in that MAX. Who TF have him a pilot license.

[@THYB737]

Unprofessional crew. Sounds like they never do a propriate briefing and now are forced to say something for the camera. Very ridiculous.

[@On-Our-Radar-24News]

Guys, your in VFR conditions, traffic is light, I know the Bogota pattern has to be flown precisely because of terrain, but as pilots we need to be hand flying the aircraft longer then the last 300 feet of the landing. We have to keep our skills sharp and hand flying the aircraft should be the joy of a pilot, not a hindrance. Of course protocols and procedures have to be followed, but I dont know of any airline that discourages their pilots from hand flying the aircraft as much as possible.

[@JustMe00257]

Well, Justing by the awful roll PIOs, improving handflying should be at the top of their priority list.

[@itsnaveenn]

It is recorded right

[@AysarAburrub]

well obviously ... the MAX has been grounded since March of 2019

[@boysky9991]

Por que hablan en ingles siendo dos países hispanos? Cuando en circunstancias normales en cada país hablan en su idioma las aerolíneas que hablan el idioma de cada país, si una aerolínea habla español y el país a donde va es hispano, pues hablan en español..

[@justplanes]

Hope you enjoyed the video, thanks

[@albert593]

Eso pasa a menudo en Usa , se encuentra con un hispano y le hablas en español y este le responde en inglés, inmediatamente deduzco que este no quiere hablar español.

[@757simmer7]

I wanna see 2 maxes dogfighting In a 2 CIRCLE FIGHT

[@kissingbanditt]

She only spoke in English due to the fact that there was a camera recording. Otherwise always they would have spoken in Spanish. Horrible English accent and i see that in Toronto alot at YYZ tower. They have to repeat between 2-4x all comms. I always say, if you speak another language that’s not your native tongue, it’s best to speak slower rather then faster. I caught 40% on what she said only.

[@ksm1985]

Haha so true, its annoying

[@TotalGamesOFICIAL]

It's funny that I get everything she says but I can't understand what a native English speaker says, for me it's much more difficult.

[@varig933]

I’ve got a100% in both languages

[@julianandres83]

Es un gran error tener de alterno un aeropuerto que puede tener peor condición climática que Bogotá.

[@fiapo3104]

Max 737? Vixiiiiiii

[@35157208]

It's an old video. 😉

[@windanthonystream]

I don’t know why my eyes are so concentrated on the stabilizer trim wheel spinning.... I just can’t get MCAS out of my head..

[@THYB737]

Can you imagine the nervousness of a future 737 MAX crew who experience a simple Runaway Stabilizer?

[@n1msu]

After watching this video a few times, I think the captain uses cocaine, and that's not based on Colombia etc...

[@maxpowerule]

Omg that's just some awful hand flying, what was he doing for real .

[@marka7903]

Over-controlling

[@captainmike6673]

This is concerning

[@jetPower1960]

They haven’t started retraining on 737MAX yet.

[@tomstravels520]

Yeah we know. This was recorded in 2018

[@theophilegras5020]

MAX but still paper charts...

[@albert593]

Siendo un piloto en entrenamiento ; no me gustaría tener de capitán a esa mujer . Terrible instructora … arrogante.

[@soravulpis96]

Why are airliner cockpits so digitized these days? I hope they're hardened against attack. Personally I think we should go back to analog instruments and navigation aids. Can't hack those.

[@tomstravels520]

What sort of attack? You can’t hack them

[@ysfsim]

@@tomstravels520 emp

[@tomstravels520]

ysfsim if an EMP went off loosing your instruments would be the least of your worries. Most flight controls are now electrically controlled so unless you have a mechanical backup then you’re dead anyway

[@tomstravels520]

They’re digitised because hat is the best way to preset information. You can’t show terrain or weather on an analogue gauges so more likely to have CFIT crashes. All the systems will need their own displays like they did on older planes and need a flight engineer. One main reason for crashes in the 70’s and 80’s was pilot error that could have been detected by a computer.

[@THYB737]

@@tomstravels520 737 controls are mechanical

[@tgmjrtgmjr8221]

If it wouldn't be for cheap foreign Indian and Pakistan coding, it would still be flying. No quality control. So much for poor pilots. Those planes that crashed took off, flew and landed successfully in Ethiopia when delivered, where the Ethiopian pilot had only 200 hours of flying time in the 737 and the Indonesian crash. So much for experience.

[@THYB737]

Oh Jesus Christ... When the MAX were faulty, it didn't necessarily mean that it will crash as soon as it's in the air. There was a higher risk that the sensors received wrong data and caused the MCAS to override the control inputs...meaning that crash could ve happened to any crew, no matter how experienced they are. And just btw, a 200 hours FO has basically just finished his type rating, meaning he is the crew member with the latest knowledge and practice on the aircraft. I can tell you have no idea about Aviation, not to mention flight experience.

[@amtahboub]

I wouldn’t want to fly this rebranded death trap

[@DorianTMChannel]

Okay?

[@canofanger]

Bet you will if the ticket price is right.

[@georgeclarke163]

Why release now a video of a doomed aircraft that has killed over 300 men, women and children and has been grounded for an unprecedented length of time. Out of respect to the families of all those killed you should take down this video rather than promoting a flawed aircraft. Read the Transportation Committee report released this week. Read the testimonies in that from relatives of those that Boing killed. Shame on you as a previously responsible channel for posting this nonsense.

[@georgeclarke163]

@@WackyBroProductions What is the point of your ill informed comment? This video was posted after the Boeing 737 Max killed 300+ men, women and children. My comment referred to the fact that this was very insensitive to post this video at this time.

[@gereskala]

Entiendo que este canal es EN INGLÉS pero sería mucho más interesante si respetaran el idioma nato de cada piloto, y más en países donde el español es su idioma nativo no hay ninguna necesidad de utilizar el inglés, no entiendo por qué quieren obligar para propósito del video nada más hacer que las conversaciones entre el piloto y la torre sean en inglés eso es realmente ridiculo… ya que TODOS los que tenemos experiencia sabemos que en países hispanos los pilotos hispanos se comunican en español , jamás en inglés… lamento romperles el corazón a los gringos que quieren que su idioma sea el único en el mundo pero así es. Ojalá dejen esa tontería y los próximos videos de países hispanos no obliguen a los pilotos (por la causa del video)a hablar su idioma para que sea más natural y que se vea la diversidad de idiomas y que el inglés aunque es el idioma universal NO ES EL ÚNICO IDIOMA.

[@itsmee9779]

How old is this ? 737max 's are all grounded. Is this a bullshit video ?

[@tomstravels520]

And there’s the first one. Did you not stop to think that maybe this was filmed before the groundings?

[@wickedpawn5437]

One thing is to be nice and shoot these videos for the international community, another thing is to communicate in a language you're not even fluent in, forcing traffic control to speak in a foreign language against their intentions. This is blatant ridiculous, stupid and dangerous. I'll never fly Aeromexico ever)

[@Hk-uw8my]

All commercial pilots and atc should be able to speak in english, as required by the ICAO though