Pilots Won't Stop Wishing ATC "Happy Birthday" in Microsoft Flight Simulator (VATSIM)

[@zacharygrouwinkel1534]

I’d honestly love to hear my actual pilot go “ok no start on engine #2. What the fuck is going on? I could’ve sworn I had the APU turned on. Ok here we go, now we have engine #2”

[@whaleclam8858]

That probably happens all the time lol you just don’t know

[@phillip3330]

I've heard worse in Southwest cockpits..

[@dmacpher]

@@phillip3330 thank you for crashing with Ryanair

[@jean-lucmoy3098]

Bruhhh😂💀

[@EMNemesis]

@@dmacpher *Ryanair passengers freaks out after the announcement*

[@thetruesoml2118]

I used to work for a grocery store and had a manager who if you frustrated him or pissed him off, he would announce on the intercom it was your birthday and your current location in the store throughout your shift so all the customers would wish you happy birthday. It was hilarious.

[@Cyrribrae]

Definitely better than getting your hours cut or your "job description" changed haha.

[@EdyAlbertoMSGT3]

Piss him off in your actual birthday, see what happens.

[@Andrew-bz4yo]

I live in university dorms and one morning we were all making pancakes for breakfast. one friend was supposed to eat with us but got called into an emergency shift at the coffee shop on campus. we left a few pancakes for her and brought them to the cafe, and I suggested we sing happy birthday while we did it just to annoy her. apparently all day her boss was bringing her extra treats despite her constant insistence it was not actually her birthday

[@EmilC2012]

Aye yoooo that JetBlue paint job looking respectfully weathered. Shout-out to that Detroit guy for having an awesome birthday 🎂🎉

[@astrarailphoto]

I stole his birthday

[@brayden7574]

i stole his birthday

[@zxckx101]

747 likes. Lets keep it this way.

[@someshittycommenter2721]

I stole his birthday

[@UnLiMiTEDrX]

Man it’s so cool that jet blue let their pilots work from home during Covid

[@tpd1864blake]

I know. Remote controlled planes are so cool

[@alexmartinez3683]

Bro idk how I would feel if a plane im in is being driven by someone at home in their underwear

[@TommyTom21]

@@alexmartinez3683 You wouldn’t be able to know anyways. Maybe you’ve flown remote controlled flights and never knew 😱

[@Fabled17]

Yea tell that to the pilots that took 5 hours for the flight I was supposed to have 2 days ago my mom cancelled the flight tho 😂

[@BabyDino14]

Remote start!?

[@PhoenixPalmer88]

The mental whiplash I’m going through that Microsoft Flight Simulator can be THIS detailed with such professional performance from the community. That’s wild.

[@maddog2314]

Exactly, it was amazing how clean everything was until the plane hit the ground vehicle. Totally broke the quickly established immersion

[@JonezBBQ]

It's almost like people use this for training to eventually fly a real plane

[@PhoenixPalmer88]

@@JonezBBQ There are in-person flight simulators used for training. This is a game on Steam from Microsoft.

[@michaelwalters7370]

@@PhoenixPalmer88y brother who literally owns and teaches at a flight school says this is an incredibly realistic game at the very least in terms of the modeling

[@lukegangl8644]

@@PhoenixPalmer88 but you have to pay to use the irl sims, so a lot of pilots do use this for that purpose

[@jackdog06]

One of the best parts of watching a variety of KZbinrs is seeing the variety of sponsors they get. Like, Instead of “this video is sponsored by Hello Fresh” a million times I get “this video is sponsored by NaviGraph charts” like damn.

[@benn454]

And it's actually something relevant and useful to the content. Imagine that.

[@CharlieApples]

Only the very best Microsoft Flight Simulator comedians who are ATCs in real life get offered sponsorships from NaviGraph. Our boy’s in the big leagues now

[@ogami1972]

Agreed, nice to hear of other companies than raycon or nordvpn. "Some More News" with Cody always has very interesting sponsors as well.

[@zacharygrouwinkel1534]

Raid: Shadow Legends

[@julessaviour5931]

That's basic marketing. Could you imagine the waste of having a navigraph sponsor for something like a cooking channel

[@TheRealInky]

I love how he just resigns himself to the fact that today is now his new birthday. "It's not my birthday" "Yes it is" "...ok.."

[@GrouchyGander]

These videos are seriously one of the most relaxing. Even as silly things keep happening, the white noise of the engine and the plane speak is just... soothing.

[@samm.madden]

Huge agree

[@stephaniegalliart859]

Flight Sim ASMR videos when

[@waitbalthy6342]

@@stephaniegalliart859I fall asleep to PMDG tutorials. Insanely relaxing!

[@lawrencetaylor9717]

green noise.. it actually helps with anxiety, one of the reasons why i love playing the game.

[@oldgrendel]

i sleep to the sounds of a B-17 or a B-29 .... like a baby

[@CreepyPersonCube.]

Why the hell is it entertaining just watching you fly a normal plane in a rational way like a skilled human being. Without anybody getting blown up. NOT! EVEN! ONE! PERSON!

[@thisoldtruck991]

And zero 600 knot inverted balloons! What's this world coming to?

[@GoodLookingGentlemen]

08:35 The story teller of Darth Plagueis the Wise still there.

[@Emperorhirohito19272]

Because it’s heavily edited lol, I can assure you a full flight would not be as entertaining

[@CreepyPersonCube.]

@@Emperorhirohito19272 DON'T RUIN THE ILLUSION

[@NoNameAtAll2]

obama on board a bomb on board?

[@Navigraphteam]

As a birthday gift, we'll release track-up moving maps so you'll never miss a taxiway again. 😉

[@abandonedaccount123]

wait a second...

[@spazemfathemcazemmeleggymi272]

Oh hey

[@propellhatt]

Happy birthday! :)

[@Navigraphteam]

@@spazemfathemcazemmeleggymi272 Hey!

[@Navigraphteam]

@@propellhatt Oh, who told you thaat?

[@kevinrush1873]

As a DTW based pilot & former Airbus driver... This video made my day. 1: I appreciated the fact that even after ATC messed it up, you correctly called it "Joe Lou" because it's for Joe Louis like the arena in Detroit. 2: You also caught the "Never Forget" on the freedom arrival. There are a lot of clever ones on that... Even the "Let's Roll" in honor of Todd Beamer, the passenger on United 93 that lead the uprising against the terrorists on that flight. And 3: the classic over speed of flaps 1 on 320/321s... The Airbus has the tightest flap airspeed restrictions of any commercial aircraft I've ever flown. And our company actually further limits this to 10knots below the speed tape restrictions. It was a constant pain in the ass. The plane doesn't like flying that slow. ATC commonly asks for 210 speed from arrivals and we always called 205 an "Airbus 210" so we could get that first notch of flaps out and fly with more margins for slowing down and going down which the Airbus doesn't like doing.

[@jtavi8ion]

Departure controller: it’s not my birthday AFP: yes it is 😉 Departure controller: *silence* *regrets life choices* I love these videos, keep up the fun content and happy birthday to the controller.

[@jamespfp]

"... but it Could Be your birfday...."

[@burdock93]

Loved that "Did you ever hear the Tragedy of Darth Plagueis the wise?" Reference! 😂 love your work man and as always to you and the rest of the commentors - Happy Birthday.

[@truckerallikatuk]

It's not a tale ATC would tell you.

[@frogallin1621]

It's a JetBlue Legend

[@TLBgaming0330]

I thought I was the only one that heard it. Glad I wasn’t. Oh, and it’s not a tale the Jedi would tell you; it’s a Sith legend.

[@sebastianfischer429]

13:29 You flew with the Engine Mode Selector on "Ignition/Start" the whole time haha.

[@Chromaa2]

I do that shit sometimes too 😂. It’s such a small knob that you don’t remember it sometimes. Especially where it’s located

[@ajbone5188]

afterburner switch

[@mythicstreamz3497]

Houston we got a slight problem….Happy Birthday

[@leonkernan]

Professional KZbinr

[@Airforceproud95]

(Professionalism)

[@johnstjohn1987]

Only thing that would have made that landing any better is if he said "MMMMM BUTTER"

[@Cem_kara]

I literally said that in my head when he landed hahaha

[@johnstjohn1987]

@@Cem_kara I was waiting for it haha

[@BigFroggo]

The good ol days

[@skylerpierez8449]

I always call butter when he puts it down with grace lmao

[@noob.168]

mayo clears

[@unowenwasholo]

I would have never thought that wishing someone an off-season happy birthday could cause such mental discomfort.

[@carbon1255]

It is a thing ATCs do to each other and apparently it does xD I'd be well chuffed xD

[@norakura6618]

Happy birthday

[@OLBastholm]

Happy birthday!

[@jakewaffle1948]

Happy Birthday!

[@kodycarps]

happy birthday!

[@penepatitenor]

The fact that there are people manning all the towers and what not is insane! What a game!

[@jaalcaid]

When you hear the "5" you know the landing will be butter

[@filgiupo4853]

Especially when Jeremy Clark tell you that…

[@AstroGoalHorns]

9:20 in fact, the whole FRDMM5 arrival actually spells out "honor, bravery, courage, pledge, we will never forget September 11, always freedom, stand together." The south branch of the arrival also spells out "let's roll victory hero."

[@CharlieApples]

Victory Hero sounds like the literal translation of an anime character’s name into English

[@Mar-uc7kk]

i know absolutely nothing about planes or anything of the sort but these videos have me absolutely fascinated. In fact, I even bought Flight Sim. It was a lot harder than i expected.

[@wafflesnfalafel1]

thanks for the vid - coincidentally my most "space shuttle-esque" take off was in an A319 out of MSP. We were nearly 2 hours late departing and the pilot just hammered it, kept it low along the length of the runway then yanked on it. Figure he must have done some "tactical takeoffs" for the airforce or something. Some passengers were concerned but it was pretty awesome.

[@-maxipoo-]

He noticed the ‘NEVRR FORGT’, but it actually is a lot bigger. The arrivals waypoints are: ‘HONNR BRVRY COURG MORLL PLDGE’ then ‘WEEEE WILLL NEVVR FORGT SEPII’ and ‘ALWAYZ FRDMM’

[@mikecermeno4935]

Having flown in and out of Reagan numerous times and also spending many afternoons throughout my life at the aviation park this is the first time feel the accuracy of these flight simulations. It's truly amazing where they are on the technology of these flight simulations. Though what I will say is missing and pardon me I do not know what these things are called, are the light beacons from the ground that sort of signal you in I suppose. They are like little mini tower looking things, none the less, as I said, I'm truly impressed with the approach here.

[@happycommentator6773]

I spent a few Sunday afternoons at Gravelly point when I was a kid. Always liked watching the old 727's landing at DCA.

[@kath8562]

Papi lights, maybe? Horizontal stand of 4 lights? Or vasi ones, 2 with two offset behind them. Used for visual flight landings.

[@saimirfan902]

@@kath8562 maybe they are called ILS? Instrument Landing System or something like that

[@kath8562]

@@saimirfan902 the lights are used for visual landings. From what I understand, how many lights and where the pilot sees them as they come in to land lets them judge if they're to high, low, to the right or left.

[@dcnats92]

@@happycommentator6773 Gravelly is a vibe

[@LEO-fk1io]

I love Navigraph. it was the first subscribtion I have ever not regretted over a long period of time and made flight sim easier to catch up with real pilots flying in there as well

[@liamdeluca8174]

I was wondering why you kept switching between a yoke and a joystick before I realized you match it with the aircraft you're flying, pretty neat

[@P51Princess]

You know it’s a good video when he reaches for your soul within the first ten seconds

[@robertsr4l]

Good evening gorundpound69

[@MSRTA_Productions]

You had one job, and you failed miserably (lol)

[@YoloMenace001]

Arifuroid9wod5 Get it right

[@jitarion]

😂😂😂😂

[@pureskills4847]

Nice pfp

[@YoloMenace001]

@@pureskills4847 my comment was a reference to one of the comments shown in one of his reading comments videos lol

[@MK-hi4jy]

It's very cool to see this change of pace with the professional ATC type videos in contrast to the earlier crazy ones. I love them both.

[@mindopolis6089]

That guy who yelled "Smoke!" On the PA gave everyone a heads-up of the fog covering the land

[@DingusYi]

that was a sound effect added in editing…

[@waffle911]

AFP adds in sound clips like that during editing for comedic effect, especially cabin chatter when shit gets real.

[@bloodyblase3074]

that was from csgo

[@CharlieApples]

*Poppin’ smoke!*

[@XxPo1nTxF1v3xX]

Never in my life have I ever seen something as complex as the cockpit of an air vehicle, and then I always get to thinking like, Holy shit man, humans builtthat, designed, that, created that, innovated that, and then all the protocols and procedures to make it all work out, from ATC to the verbal transfer of information, it is so fuckin' wild and impressive man.

[@LightS_bRight]

[@DaBurntToaster]

first time i hopped into an f15 (crew chief here) it looked extremely complicated, but its really not. all the switches are in sections, engine control panel, lighting panel, radio panel throttle quadrant, ecm panel, oxygen panel, flight controls panel. each panel only has a few switches each so its more just remembering where each panel is and things are laid out pretty well from there. if anything the screens are harder to navigate as each screen is covered in buttons menus and submenus

[@fighisver]

@@JackAubreyy What a strange casual dog whistle.

[@pcblah]

I started my realistic flight sims in a DCS MiG-21 and found that most of the switches are just there to turn things on.

[@goatflieg]

I'm not going to wade through 770 comments but in case no one else has said it... yeah, you're just as good as any other JetBlue pilot. And that's a compliment to all.

[@snack_bar2474]

"This is your captain speaking. We're about to begin decent into Washington D.C. Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise? I thought not." If my captain said this, I'd die from laughter.

[@hyperspeed1313]

The only thing guaranteed when AFP95 says ATC is fully staffed is that within 5 minutes his ATC will go offline

[@zacharygrouwinkel1534]

Thank you for the birthday well wishes. I was pumped to see an airpotato76 upload on my birthday. Made my day. Also didn’t realize we shared a birthday. Happy birthday to you as well.

[@Squizzard7006]

My birthday as well today, happy birthday :)

[@groggysword33]

Happy Birthday AirForceProud95!

[@Fighterpilot555]

AFP95: "If I remember correctly this thing climbs like the damn space shuttle.." Me: "He's exaggerating again, I know it." [The plane attacks the angle like a wild boar] AYO, WHAT THE F... Edit: 3:55

[@rodri_merli27]

that neo is a beast

[@jebediahkerman8245]

Happy Birthday!

[@TacticalOni]

I work at a regional that flies one A320 out a day and let me tell you those fuckers *climb* Also, the fuel panel is right next to an AC pack vent which is great for fueling on those hot summer days. Could toast some mallows under that thing

[@Fizzi_]

Welcome to the FBW A20N ! just wanted to mention that you have the fly pad to your left as a tablet with direct navigraph integration, a vatsim radio section, a lot of ground control features (pushback, payload, etc), and a lot of options on the aircraft itself to put it in a nutshell, it is very useful Btw : you have max flaps speeds written to the right of your nav display and several minor things that I noticed : 1. you left your engines in ingnition the entire flight 2. you did not arm the emergency exit 3. the luminosity knobs for the overhead is right next to the Apu master and you seem to have figured it out but yeah you need Apu air for the engine startup

[@Fizzi_]

and flyby wire has extensive documentation if you need to know anything about the aircraft

[@UD503J]

FBW is bae

[@gasviation9077]

"FMS is set" proceeds to not do anything in the perf page

[@Suilimea]

8:35 Gotta love that descent briefing. It’s not a story the Jedi would tell you. 😉

[@MadMadBomber]

I used to work at DTW. I taxied planes around there all the time. That left from Y to V is notorious for people screwing it up. It’s especially fun to navigate at night. Kinda fun to see you on the VatSim around there!

[@NBT2469]

Good to see you again, after a while. Hope all is well.

[@aaronholland112]

Omg, I’ve flown this route several times and it’s always one of my most challenging landings every single time but happy birthday Atc✨✨✨🎉🎊🎊

[@countrymann5040]

3:18 not only does that thing look like it hasnt seen a shower in 6 years, but also landed in dirt, sand and water before it got to that airport

[@Cultural_Supremacist]

Went from gaming to actual flight training. Amazing

[@andrewhickinbottom1051]

I love your videos! Really well edited, just the right length, informative, humorous and professional (when you need to be)! I appreciate the subtitles too, and the little jokey bonuses in them

[@lexguttman]

"Violent turbulence, Jesus Christ! What is happening?" Your flying into Washington DC. Ive done that once. From now on if I go to the mainland I'll drive to DC.

[@XanderPerryXP]

happy birthday my guy, you deserve the wishes!

[@kingwolf277]

Loving that JetBlue livery! I always fly Jetblue on MSFS2020 while playing "Im Blue" when taxiing

[@spencercohen2673]

at 11:08 you genuinely cannot tell the difference to real life. Insane

[@T_Dubbs]

6:02 that “Yes it is.” 😅

[@JamesGreenier]

I just flew into Reagan and this is extremely realistic. Very nice!

[@CinderElmcreek]

Thank you, and Happy Birthday!

[@okbucket]

Nice landing! Last year I was on an IRL flight into Reagan. Most brutal landing I've ever been on. We had 3 called-off approaches at the very last second. Major turbulence the whole time. When we finally landed, someone scrammed to the bathroom, while the plane was still moving. Then a fire alarm went off. The dude had lit up a cigarette. 😆 The pilot and flight crew were very chill about it, figured it was a stressful landing and didn't have the guy punished for it. Heck I don't even smoke and I wanted a cigarette.

[@michelinman8592]

So happy to see Detroit Metro represented in MS Flight Sim 2020 (my hometown airport!) Also happy to see that the bugginess hasn't completely gone away either.

[@ROUSH-01]

I love when groundpound69 uploads, it usually hints that’s it’s gonna be a good day/night.

[@cranstonsummers2871]

Just wanna say the landing was Supreme. The babies in the back didn't wake up more did you ash the joint id been smoking the entire flight. When we hit the terminal my man Bobby was still confused and thought we were still at departure with our buttplugs still in! He took too many shoots. Nice flight thanks for the ride!

[@wadee.s]

This is still comedy gold! Also love your content as always.

[@chemtrooper]

Thank you for sponsoring Navigraph and Happy Birthday.

[@hyperformancellc]

There was this guy in my wifes high school who everyone said happy birthday to every day. He would get super angry and be like "its not my BIRTHDAY" and so like it became a thing everyone said to him. morning announcements listed him on birthdays whenever the kid doing that could get away with it, chanted it at assemblies, got all the new kids to go up to him and wish him happy birthday. He hated it. It got out to the other schools in the area. I dont know what happened to him but if you bring up the happy birthday kid in this town even fifteen years later everyone knows what you are talking about.

[@madisonmorris7394]

With that many birthdays, he must be the oldest man alive.

[@TheJables31]

Lol it's actually my birthday watching this so thanks for the happy birthday wishes AFP95

[@dantc2403]

The flight attendant's cabin briefing had me rolling 🤣

[@adamott9550]

I absolutely love DTC makes me feel like I’m headed to summer vacation every time I see it. Thanks for the nostalgia!!

[@malapertfourohfour2112]

As that guy trying not to publicly have his birthday, fucking hilarious 😂

[@darkfoxxbunyip]

I love the wingtip and tail camera views! Happy birthday

[@GamoToTheoM]

Great video, but the way you handled my favourite aircraft stressed the fk out of me xD A32NX has a custom autopilot with fully functional LNAV and VNAV as well as FMS. Also plz activate the Approach Phase when on approach, helps with the correct speeds etc

[@SLCmedia07]

I just want to say thank you for posting these videos. It's people like me who envy people like you about the dreams of flying. Also, APU was on but it was dumped. So now you gotta get out and hand start it with a crank.

[@radiantthought]

just found this video today, on my birthday. cheers!

[@igorluiz9551]

I gotta be honest, I thought this channel would die when you stopped doing Steam's Flight Simulator videos, but the views are still here, showing how good is content is even though is less comical. I'm glad you are getting sponsors!

[@Stuntman2304]

I’m 99% this guy could pilot almost any plane he flies in this simulator flawlessly in real life.

[@liamdubalmusic]

I mean, he's a commercial pilot so I'd hope so 😂

[@carbon1255]

I wouldn't say flawlessly, he makes plenty of mistakes especially on some types but he could fly them, yes. He is a pilot.

[@liamdubalmusic]

@@carbon1255 hes a commercial pilot, it says in his youtube description lmao

[@carbon1255]

@@liamdubalmusic sorry.

[@As_A________Commenter]

I clicked on this thinking it was another type of video, didn’t know it was a flight sim. The Airbus instructor in me wants to correct so many little things, but the point is to have fun and enjoy yourself, glad you did.

[@StyxRiverGynoid]

Wait, I call shenanigans. I would have thought JetBlue would charge you extra for flight attendant briefings.

[@Riomai]

Funny enough today is actually my birthday, I always really enjoy your videos Airforceproud95, and can never contain my laughter watching you. Have a wonderful rest of the evening and thanks for putting so many smiles on people’s faces. :D

[@ih8california991]

not enough troll gameplay; we need supersonic hot air balloons, 747 dogfights, and space shuttle status

[@carolineelizabeth9125]

Why is the cut to the third person POV so fucking funny at 8:24

[@MoejoTheGreat]

You must say happy birthday to every atc you contact from now on.

[@Tirryna]

Your videos are strangely as relaxing as they are chaotic....not sure how that works...but...you've perfected it...

[@flightlevel3608]

I remember me and a bunch of other pilots wishing Boston Center a happy birthday on VATSIM a few years ago lol

[@ghandiwon]

Youre likely talking about sh33d. Someone would collect the messags throughout the year then put them all together for his actual birthday

[@xnooknooknook]

What a beautiful landing approach above the river. Like butter as always bro.

[@yobb1n544]

Happy Birthday.

[@flame_half]

I miss the chaos of the old videos but these new videos are really good too. All good content.

[@lucas__hwll]

Another great upload from SoundCloud22

[@Nicknero]

"This will be a news article in just about 20ft or so" had me cracking up out loud. Nice one.

[@ryeb_]

Well it was actually my birthday yesterday sooooo Noice i like jetblue, looks very realistic as well. Ima get MSFS2020 sometime soon hopefully.

[@madeincda]

🎶Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday tooo you. Happy birthday dear Airfarce73, and communityyyy... Happy birthday tooooo yooooouuu!🎶 Thank you, thank you. 🤗

[@this.is.a.username]

This reminds me of when I played Eve Online, I used to post on the forums every day and wish a mod happy birthday... CCP Zymurgist, if you ever come across this, Awesome Possum wishes you a happy birthday.

[@KennethW1234]

The tragedy of Darth Plagueis the wise. That’s a throw back!

[@Charlie_Ses]

Nice landing dude. I mean I have no idea if it was or not, it did look nice though. Nice.

[@Novafro]

9:15 Never Forget September 11th, Always Freedom, Lets Roll. Idk who did that, but that's kinda cool!

[@arthuuu_]

just fyi, the lnav on the latest fbw stable release is fully custom and does a very good job, arguably on the level of fenix

[@lindseyh8617]

I listen to youtube a lot at work but now that I'm off and I am actually watching the video your captions make it 1000% funnier

[@shawnio]

you actually make this game sound fun.

[@Unionhawk73]

One time I had someone ask me to wish company traffic a happy birthday and you better believe I hit them with a big "from all of us here in the tower cab, happy birthday"

[@x5060]

Reach for my soul? TAKE IT! And.... Happy Birthday. ETA: Are you flying in the copilot configuration or is your talking head reversed?

[@-Datura-]

Always relaxing when the pilot says "What the fuck is going on?!?" and strikes a ground vehicle off the bat. Enjoy the rest of your flight...

[@MI5Hellsent]

Gotta make sure to close the cockpit door to make the cabin announcement quieter :)

[@stumbling]

"Good afternoon, Ladies and Gentlemen. This is your Captain speaking. We will shortly be taxiing towards the runway for take-off, just as soon as I figure out how to start the engines."

[@controul]

8:40 Did this guy just go full audio book on us?

[@CathrineMacNiel]

Its not a story Lufhansa would tell you.

[@RHaenJarr]

I like just slamming the throttle to max while holding down the brakes and then releasing for that Battlestar Galactica feel

[@T3ki1a_]

An new video from GroundPound69, what more to make one happy?

[@douglas98465]

I flew into Reagan for vacation this summer. When we made that sharp right turn to the runway I saw a plane departing ahead of us on the runway that we were like 60 seconds away from landing on. They work with some tight timing at that airport. 🥶

[@crystalthewolf8945]

Just letting you know, if you're on the newest version of the FBW, the lnav AND vnav work perfectly fine, along with the efb

[@Airforceproud95]

Noted thank you

[@DanTheMan_18]

You're talking about the experimental version right? Just want to make sure

[@crystalthewolf8945]

@@Airforceproud95 I don't know about the stable branch, just use the dev or experimental version, they're not unstable and are recommended by the devs

[@crystalthewolf8945]

@@DanTheMan_18 I've used both and they work perfectly fine with T/D calculation, vnav, basically everything you could need