Pim Van Lommel 'Consciousness and The Near Death Experience' Interview by Iain McNay

[@ritabook5335]

Two lovely, gentle souls having a discussion with reason and heart. What finer thing in this world?

[@kshitijkorde7496]

These videos are like a treasure chest. Perhaps the only thing that I watch on KZbin. I feel so happy after watching these. Thanks Ian.

[@paul2081ok]

My NDE resulted after choking on Fish and after not breathing for over a minute, I knew I was running out of time before I blacked out and so I accepted my death . In a panic I “asked my deceased dog to witness my death” and in my mind’s eye, I could see her and we were mutually joyful at our meeting but she confidently insisted I continue to “TRY”. I suddenly grabbed a pitcher of water and poured it down into my throat which quickly caused me to vomit and I inhaled deeply. I was resigned to die but it was the helpful intervention of my dog that saved my life!

[@joplaygames666]

Hai Paul, I just want to confirm that you saw your dog right? Thank you

[@irenefeltham8984]

Iain McNay. You are an intently, intelligent Interviewer, listening - Your face reflecting - allowing Pim van Lommel’s brilliant mind his freedom of thought, without interruption. I have just discovered Conscious tv, Thank You🌹

[@RainForrest1.45-B]

I recall my death experience vividly. I didn't have emotions as the good doctor discovered in his research, I experienced overwhelming absolute sensations of peace, confidence, euphoria, and the realization that I had no more sickness and no more insecurities. I did see my body on the floor of the Jail and the guards all around me. When I came back I had an emotion of extreme anger. This happened in 1985ish I experienced to one of the guards what I experienced, he dismissed it as a hallucination.

[@jamez_gamez]

Sounds incredible. How did that happen?

[@sngscratcher]

I find it particularly convincing when it is the medical professionals who are reporting their experiences with patients who have had NDEs. It's one thing to hear a "supernatural" story from an NDE patient (which I also find compelling). But when patients come into the hospital comatose, and later tell the doctors and nurses things they shouldn't know (because they were comatose at the time), it's hard not to believe that consciousness is non-local (unless you're a materialist dogmatist).

[@sheenaalexis8710]

Exactly. They completely ignore the evidence. It's the only way their arguments hold up.

[@KillerEggFromOuterSpace]

@@sheenaalexis8710 I had a discussion with someone with such views and he was relentless and close minded about it. He referred to them as hallucinations the entire time even tho I disproved that (oxygen deprivation would not produce the lucid effects & there isn't enough DMT in the body to do this either, nor would the spike right before death). He wanted to dismiss the subject as a waste of time but also says to be about science & facts (which this is a branch of science & a phenomenon that should be studied, not dismissed). His reasoning was that 90% don't have one so the 10% are just crazy (which 10% of that population is still in the hundreds of thousands. And just because it's not reported by everyone, doesn't mean it's not still reported and has actually scientific facets too it. Same thing with psychology as only 10% experience GAD, but it absolutely does exist & shouldn't be dismissed!) For people of "science & facts" they sure don't want to explore the ideas of new science

[@penciltreeofficial4219]

@@KillerEggFromOuterSpace wait, you mean to tell me that 90% of population don't have these kind of experiences after dying and going back, and that just 10% has them? I though it was the other way around. O.O That is a pretty solid argument your friend got there, then. I was a very spiritual person and still want to be, but facts speak louder than spirituality in my mind. I just don't wanna die and disappear. :(

[@gjorgin]

@@KillerEggFromOuterSpace i think precentage is higher, like 30%, but those who dont have ndes, maybe they cant remember it (as it happens with dreams, not all people can remember them, but we all do have dreams). Materialists would always insist on scientific research, peer reviewed articles, statistical evidence, but when they are presented the veridical oobes, they stay close minded and dismiss them. Maybe from the auditory sensors, one can make obe hallucination, but hearing conversations from other rooms, or seeing clothes and faces of medics and other details they couldnt have seen because of closed eyes... you cannot set aside. Also, there are many cases of ndes and obes that are not in hospitals. I had a friend who drowned, and he had an obe. He described every detail of his saviours, the cpr, how he was dragged to the beach, the conversation, the other spectators etc which was later verified by the people. Of course, doctors didnt believe his story

[@bradyportwood9398]

@@penciltreeofficial4219 there’s theory that the people experienced it but don’t remember

[@jadrankabrncic6597]

Thank you for this conversation. I myself had a similar experience when my mom died. For a moment, she took me with her to that light space.

[@WmArthur]

A shared NDE. I heard of a young boy who died with many family members and friends around him in the hospital. One man and a woman there both later shared that they too had been taken up with him at his moment of passing. Simply amazing! I have no doubt our consciousness is eternal and reincarnation is real. Thanks for sharing, Bless You

[@JMaxwell1000]

Truly outstanding interview and presentation. It's simply wonderful to hear and see such an intelligent expert reflect on this absolutely paradigm-shifting phenomenon. Thank God the millions who've experienced NDEs are now coming forward in ever-greater numbers to relate the truth.

[@SardarBhaiForever]

Excellent discussion. Van Lommel's comments around 53:50 reminded me of a couple Quranic verses: If you do good, you do good for yourselves; and if you do evil, [you do it] to yourselves. - Quran 17:7 So whoever does an atom’s weight of good will see it, and whoever does an atom’s weight of evil will see it. - Quran 99:7-8

[@glenemma1]

Thanks Iain and Pim. This was a great interview.

[@Bubleone1]

Love the last few words especially what Pim said (at 53.00 minutes on) I was at a reading in Almelo last month from him.. very very good! Thanks PIM!

[@kjay5]

Thank you both for your unselfishness in sharing this wonderful and useful information with the world.

[@conscioustv]

The transcript of this interview is available to view here. www.conscious.tv/text/47.htm

[@maggiehoney1159]

conscioustv Z

[@guittatim4300]

Thank you, I am thinking of the writing of Emanuel Swedenborg, he wrote so many experiences of the life after death.

[@razony]

NDE's have been occurring from the beginning of time, because this is just the way It is!

[@Charity-vm4bt]

This is wonderful, wonderful, wonderful! I hope to find more recent interviews or discussions with Dr. Pim to explain some experiences.

[@marijkevv11]

Thank you so much Pim van Lommel Great insights Beautifully explained💜

[@JustThis11]

Excellent interview. Ian, thank you for your hard work on all these interviews. I appreciate it. To Pim Van Lommel, thank you for sharing your understanding and results of your study.

[@TheseEyesGod]

So glad to hear that. Among all the nonsense, there is much truly excellent stuff on the web. That vid is one of the best :)

[@onepathmypath2935]

So enlightening, the bit about the link between NDE and Empathy gave 'me' an epiphany. Also having had an NDE and hearing those words is a revealing moment that makes 'me' want to enjoy the outcome of my experience fully, I will continue to cry in presence of other's pain without refraining myself or thinking this is insane. Thank you Pim and conscious TV.

[@sngscratcher]

I have listened to a number of Eben's talks and interviews on KZbin and his story is quite compelling. It's amazing how even a strict materialist skeptic will open up to the idea of a "universal conscious underpinning" to this physical matter reality frame - if the awakening experience is powerful enough. My own awakening has been more subtle than Dr. Alexander's, but I am pretty well convinced there is a larger conscious force at work in our lives, which we are each a part of. Take care.

[@iammine38]

This is more relevant today than ever. We should open up and join our positive consciousnesses to contribute to the greater underlying force - strengthen the good force, because obviously evil forces are at work as well.

[@sheenaalexis8710]

It's so nice to actually see a skeptic with reason aswell.

[@ShouriSeifuku]

Dark matter, and dark energy. There's a connection. There's a connection between chaos theory, quantum physics, consciousness, dark matter, and dark energy. There is something there.

[@kashty024]

The aether.

[@janoslorincz9845]

I got across this interview only today. I had one out of body event when I was only five years old or so and died twice on and after my coronary surgery. No NDE, but the OBE experience is still (I am 75 now) clear in my memory in every respect. And after my 2nd death, in spite of having no NDE gave me something amazing experience or property or God knows what, that i had a razor sharp mind for about week. I wish I could have it still... I loved the discussion between these two calm and clear minded guys !

[@louannamantheaki]

Amazing interview bravo! serious and to the point the best I have seen so far on this sensitive and life changing subject.

[@efteestein]

I love Pim’s interviews and his book. Towards the end of the interview he makes a comment about not fearing death, which makes sense on one level, but if you have a loved one who is very ill it is hard to maintain this attitude as one would do absolutely anything to save them. Probably more than one would do to save oneself.

[@elliottfireice4394]

You have raised an interesting point. When someone dies, we often hear it's harder for the ones they leave behind. When people have not had a NDE, it's normal for people to fear death. As a dying person going through NDE, it seems they don't want to come back to this life, almost like there is an instant switch and being actually disappointed to come back to the body. The best evidence is the verifiable aspects of an out of body experience. Where someone sees accurate details outside the room of their own body and it is real. My question though is, if the brain doesn't function and consciousness is fundamental in the universe, why doesn't everyone accept this new evidence? Like doctors, psychologists and neuroscience? If the brain really didn't function and you can prove this, why doesn't the whole world know about this ??

[@jenniferwong4530]

I have much to live for, and have no desire to die but I can't help but feel so curious about what lies beyond our physical death. I have so many questions...

[@monporoshneog4725]

Dear❤.We are Eternal Spiritual beings going through a temporary human experience to understand the importance of LOVE. It is Us who choosed to have the Human experiences . But we are part and parcel of the Source,we are the Source😊. But we ourselves create this illusion that we are separate from the Source and that gives rise to an individual false Ego and we Come to this material world. But because we are the LOVE, we always wants Love and inherently search for Love and peace in the world. Search for peace becomes the driving force to keep going in the world.But after many many births we realised that We can be Peaceful by ending this illusion and returning to our original Identity and become part of the infinitely loving SOURCE. It's like a drop of water separated from the Ocean and finally meet the Ocean and become the Ocean. Though I explained to you so easily but believe me It has much more deeper meanings. This truth were all written in Ancient Hindu texts like VEDAS, BHAGAWAT GEETA AS IT IS etc. Radhey Radhey 🙏❤

[@jack41401]

Pam had an embolism at the base of her brain that would have killed her if not operated on. She was purposely brought to the point of death in order to remove the embolism. The fact that she was fully monitored makes her case one of the most compelling.

[@ThomasRomlin]

If you still meet Pim in Amsterdam? In minute 30 and in the end of this good intervju Pim talks about our body as we "know it". If you meet him again, tell him that our body is just a perceived image, I think that will help him in some parts of his explanations. What we perceive as the reality is not the reel reality, so when he talks about our body as a "physical body/thing", he talks about the "known body". Thank you for this "strong" and true intervju. Thomas

[@yingyang1008]

Rupert Sheldrake has some real interesting ideas about consciousness, where it is seated, and how it has nothing to do with the actual brain........

[@guts5379]

DMT can also give you a NDE like experience without almost dying. I had an experience where it felt like my consciousness was traveling at the speed of light and receiving all sorts of data and communications. I entered a weird hallway with a garden courtyard. when I got there I started seeing these singular eyes started popping up out of no where one by one and they were intently looking at me. They felt alive and conscious, these eyes. I believe DMT affects the conscious connection with our brain and can somehow cut off the connection to our bodies temporarily. Some say its simulating death which is consciousness being detached from the body and going to a certain place that you end up when you die.

[@benstr8156]

What you need is a real NDE, so you can compare the two experiences.

[@Ellielaaap]

The difference is you were alive, your brain was functioning, you had a blood pressure and that's how it explains you had hallucinations. People who had cardiac arrest, had no blood pressure, no neurological reflexes, no brain activity and still had nde. How is it possible then? To produce hallucinations you at least need a blood circulation to make your brain work - simple logic?

[@razony]

DMT validates the NDE's in this way. Like the OBE, one can part/leave their body while still alive. This can be achieved by mediation Going inward vs. outward. (praying)

[@TheseEyesGod]

Thanks for piping up, Rebecka. I, too, find the comparatively few hell experiences in NDEs to be largely self-created. Heck, we create our life experience in the body, as well, just without being aware of it. Yet the interesting part is that believing comes BEFORE seeing. So until we make room for such ideas & shift our beliefs, it doesn't seem to make sense to us. So there's no convincing someone else - they have to that that, themselves. It's a happier way to live, tho, for sure.

[@glenallen623]

Arthur, thank you so much for your replies. I have returned to a VERY bad place on all of this after many years. i am grateful for your input.

[@fuldagermany]

Consciousness is everything. Life is magical and I do no feel that at this point of our development that we can even begin to understand the Prime Creator's magic in its totality.

[@lakefire9985]

fascinating and wonderful man

[@bubble_nut5000]

Consciousness is eternal.

[@alpacino4857]

as long as universe is around, all consciousness will still be around.

[@monporoshneog4725]

​@@alpacino4857 Dear❤. ​ We are Eternal Spiritual beings going through a temporary human experience to understand the importance of LOVE. It is Us who choosed to have the Human experiences . But we are part and parcel of the Source,we are the Source😊. But we ourselves create this illusion that we are separate from the Source and that gives rise to an individual false Ego and we Come to this material world. But because we are the LOVE, we always wants Love and inherently search for Love and peace in the world. Search for peace becomes the driving force to keep going in the world.But after many many births we realised that We can be Peaceful by ending this illusion and returning to our original Identity and become part of the infinitely loving SOURCE. It's like a drop of water separated from the Ocean and finally meet the Ocean and become the Ocean. Though I explained to you so easily but believe me It has much more deeper meanings. This truth were all written in Ancient Hindu texts like VEDAS, BHAGAWAT GEETA AS IT IS etc. Radhey Radhey 🙏❤

[@willbfreed]

Wonderful interview, thanks!

[@Cartridge03]

I had a near death experience after suffering from anaphylaxis. I tell you my friend that the people who dont believe in the afterlife probably have not experienced it themselves. It explains their unbelief.

[@calimeroxxor]

It's the biggest experience in their life. In France we have the same persons with the same stuff "c'est l'expérience la plus forte de ma vie, elle est même plus réel que le monde réel" Xavier Rodier

[@glenallen623]

Angela thank you so much for your kind reply ............i'm sorry for your troubled journey and I HEAR YA : ) let's hope we're heading somewhere good. thanks for taking the time to reply : )

[@arthurriechert6473]

All NDE's turn positive if they last long enough. When Howard Storm called out to the Light, the Light appeared. In the Tibetan Book of the Dead the book is read to the departed spirit. The monk reading the books tells the newly departed spirit, "do not be afraid of the demons you encounter because they only projections from your own mind." It is our own demons that we must do battle with and conquer. At the point when we call out to God, the Light appears.

[@StarWarsJay]

Absolutely fascinating.

[@technophiliac2282]

The host knows all the right questions to ask

[@JM-co6rf]

i believe it. as an atheist...i'm starting to question everything

[@ginyu5009]

Same

[@whatshisname3304]

does god seem a different type of entity now? perhaps we got god all wrong. I m an atheist honest.

[@razony]

I'm an Ex-Christian because of these NDE's. I had to revaluate EVERTHING and I believe in NDE's 100%!

[@monporoshneog4725]

Dear❤ We are Eternal Spiritual beings going through a temporary human experience to understand the importance of LOVE. It is Us who choosed to have the Human experiences . But we are part and parcel of the Source,we are the Source😊. But we ourselves create this illusion that we are separate from the Source and that gives rise to an individual false Ego and we Come to this material world. But because we are the LOVE, we always wants Love and inherently search for Love and peace in the world. Search for peace becomes the driving force to keep going in the world.But after many many births we realised that We can be Peaceful by ending this illusion and returning to our original Identity and become part of the infinitely loving SOURCE. It's like a drop of water separated from the Ocean and finally meet the Ocean and become the Ocean. Though I explained to you so easily but believe me It has much more deeper meanings. This truth were all written in Ancient Hindu texts like VEDAS, BHAGAWAT GEETA AS IT IS etc. Radhey Radhey 🙏❤

[@TheScouser1234]

This has to be one of the most FASCINATING interview I ever saw...and I see many. Iain you are brilliant and should be more famous lol well i had never heard of you if you are ....most intriguing questions and it is so nice to see an interviewer react with expressions..showing that you are not one of those dumb interviewers who do not LISTEN to their guests because they are too concerned about how they are being perceived by TV viewers..thank you for not being one of those...and as for this Dutchman ..well i would marry him tomorrow lol or at least invite him to my "piece of heaven" as guests call my little 3 acre hobby farm in Costa Rica where .before i semi-retired hosted many lovable Dutchmen oh and their wives also ..lol If ever Dr Van Lommel gets to the hills of Heredia in Costa Rica i hope he will at least check out my charming little hobby farm with bungalows.. called "El Tranquilo..Lodge" and apts...9 Spanish for 'the quiet place) 'It;hehe..but reallyI have to read your books as you have changed my idea of death which seems to creep up to one ever so quickly....Thank you for keeping me awake until 2pm here Cheers it is a lodge /farmette just 25 minutes from SJO Airport...pop in and at least have a cuppa tea with this so called interesting "maturish "British woman, who moved here many years ago and we could have a fascinating conversation..oh ok bring the wife if you must.....I must now get some sleep..Goodnight and thank you..both...Debbie zzzzz I will watch more anther night.....zzz oh i almost forgot to mention that i had an Astral projection before i even knew what that was ..i was a teenager. is that similar to an NDE ?. A pity fear pulled me back into my body.so i never got the full benefit of it . i was afraid i was floating off to nowhere and the cord may snap..oh what a pity . i was since told by a famous psychic in London Richard Gardener (author of "Accelerate your Evolution") that it WAS a pity as like him I could have visited anywhere in the world..(.i already have now in reallife ..

[@enkeleidamehilli5702]

29:31 hello from Belgium, with love and light

[@razony]

Yes. Love & Light right back at you! Oregon.

[@TheThathvam]

amazing interview. insightful questions by Iain and responses by Pim

[@sngscratcher]

I have listened to some shorter clips of Peter Russell, but not this long version. I'll definitely check it out. After you begin to wake up, it's quite astounding how your priorities change. What used to be so important - like getting more "stuff" in this material world, or trying to feed our shallow ego's by winning an argument - slowly loses it's pull on us until we barely even notice it any more. And now the only thing I see as fundamental (real) is the consciousness within each individual.

[@sara6472bbbbbf]

thank you Dr Pim❤

[@dannymathis7275]

Thank you! Great talk!!

[@edisonchavez6783]

Soy médico pero no hablo español me gustaría se redujera esa conferencia de el Dr pin van lommel

[@petewoodroffemusic]

I had a near desth experience in 1980; Motorhead gig but there were no dead relatives just a few dog's!

[@jurobola]

they are convinced.... YEs... they know.... Yes.... they don't fearn any more... YEs...Yes...

[@heartsongful]

I would like to encourage you to have an interview with Tim Freke. You can look him up on KZbin and Facebook. I enjoyed watching this interview thank you for doing important work and sharing your insights with us.

[@varatamminga9696]

I wonder what happened to the people who were not aware of a near death experience? Did they simply not remember it? Dis they have a different kind of experience? So glad these mystical experiences has become more common.

[@KillerEggFromOuterSpace]

The most interesting thing about the recent NDE surge is something the furthers their legitimacy and brings down one major skepticism. There's a large population that don't experience an NDE (or simply doesn't remember the same way we hardly remember dreams from REM Sleep despite knowing REM Sleep does occur nightly), but there's still a population that does and we don't know why nor have a way to explain any of their validated claims of objective knowledge that they shouldn't have been able to make let alone accurately. Something I like to think about is how psychology is a field of science for something both subjective & objective. Mental Disorders have existed forever it's only now that we can measure & scientifically record such cases. Only 10% have GAD, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist/doesn't happen. NDEs do happen and it'll be fascinating to see how much farther the research goes. Evidence has only grown since this interview.

[@arthurriechert6473]

Fear is your enemy. From the Tibetan book of the Dead, "Do not be afraid of the demons you encounter because they are only projections from your own mind." "As a man thinketh so is he." Just remember to call out out for the Light as soon as you get there. Remember that God is Light.

[@PulseCodeMusic]

He spends quite a lot of time talking about consciousness changing the brain, claiming that this is not possible in a 'consciousness as product of brain' (CAPOB) model (Sumerised at 41:26). I don't want to argue for or against different models here, just to point out that brain changes in response to external events and in sympathy with conscious experience, far from being inconsistent with the CAPOB model, is actually its most basic prerequisite. In this model the fact that you can see the black lines that make up the letters of this sentance or remember having breakfast this morning is a result of physical changes to your brain. So it is unsurprising that brain structure and function change after learning, meditation practice or significant experience. In fact in the CAPOB model that is what learning, experience and memory is.

[@roys8474]

Great video!

[@svonkie]

Ian is a great interviewer.

[@owenbursnall5796]

He really is

[@jimmyjennings4089]

I think our Creator is trying to tell us something, you can ignore it if you want or not, everything is always going to be up to you because you have free will, as for me I think I'll decide to listen to what the Creator of everything is telling us about who we are and what we should be doing and learning in this place we were sent to from the place we came from before we were born.

[@JosephKellner]

God bless you tamsinthai!

[@arthurriechert6473]

No, Howard Storm interacted with what he called "demons" that were leading him somewhere, but before he arrived at some point he called out to God and the Light appeared, like the majority of negative NDEs.

[@sematarymusic]

Great interview.

[@TheseEyesGod]

Sounds like you're well on your way into awakening - & you will love the Russell vid, for it's right up that alley. Yeah, endless astonishment at the changes we make - at how all of the old priorities just fade into dust. I got ya on that. Death of the old to make way for the birth of the new :)

[@wilmawuels]

No está en español?

[@glenallen623]

did you watch the video?

[@sadol11]

and by the way Pim is a gentleman.

[@sematarymusic]

ive tried using that analogy for explaining consciousness too.

[@nomad9338]

He's a very brave doctor to talk about this. The evidence is overwhelming, yet hardcore materilialists keep burying their heads in the sand, and resort to denial and ridicule of NDE experiencers and the few scientists who attempt to study this, to defend their narrow minded view of the world.

[@razony]

Exactly. As of 2020. 10+ million NDE's in America alone, that we know of. 100's of millions worldwide, if not billions is real. Pharmaceuticals go through only hundreds if that, of successful trials of a vaccine before being accepted as successful.

[@oversears]

That's what I needed :)

[@edisonchavez6783]

Muy interesante esas conferencias

[@arthurriechert6473]

Okay. Maybe it was George Ritchie who died? I thought I heard that Howard Storm had crossed over. I know Pam Reynolds died a year or so ago. Pam was only 53 years old when she died. Her heart gave out on her.

[@glenallen623]

hi Arthur i'm back on the page. how are you? do you mean Howard Storm died er um permanently?

[@petersz98]

The world we live in is a collective hallucination, we are inside a matrix. Once you realise this like the Buddha and Plato everything changes.

[@k0smon]

Peter Perfect Hallucination you say. Then that wall in front of you is not real. So go ahead and walk thru it. Describe the matrix. Is this just mumbo-jumbo?

[@petersz98]

Matter is 99.999999999999% empty space! lol

[@k0smon]

Peter Perfect Source please. I know it is mostly nothing. So why can we not just walk thru it?

[@OsoMedvetz63]

k0smon because you believe it's there and you believe it's a solid mass, you are unable to walk through it.

[@petersz98]

yes

[@WmArthur]

Great interview. Dr. Bruce Greyson of U of Va psychology dept. has done lectures on the non locality of consciousness. He and Dr. Stevens have done much research regarding life after life and reincarnation. A good lecture by Dr. Greyson is on the Science for Monks channel, regarding this topic. Be kind to each other, choose love.

[@wickeddweezel]

I think it's the other 99 may have had a nde but don't remember when they come back, kind of like you don't remember your last live after your born into this life.

[@nayanmipun6784]

NDE can also be experienced beyond 10 minutes if the body and brain is in cold condition

[@Dion_Mustard]

what does this suggest?

[@ianspence2010]

I understand all existing science and philosophical ideas, however, I also feel that maybe the 'soul' is like a residual energy that is still luminescent and aware at the moment of death but as the process continues that the 'soul' gradually fades away into absolute nothingness, not even awareness.

[@redblade43]

It is wrong for the interviewer to use the term, "dead relative(s)". We do not die, we pass on as conscious beings and therefore, we are still conscious beings in the afterlife.

[@subscriber77]

"Connected with everything and everybody" -- doesn't that smack of quantum theory? Being a sceptic and materialist, the first question that comes to mind is whether there is any empirical evidence that NDE is a recollection of events PRECEDING cardiac arrest rather than AFTER it. Whatever the answer, this is a fascinating video.

[@alanharoldson9903]

The well-known skeptic Susan Blackmore was quoted in Gideon Lichfield's Atlantic article as admitting one thing about NDE - that science can explain the various events patients report but not the fact that the events occur in a particular order. Frankly, I was disappointed that van Lommel, who has done important research, mentioned quantum in his book, because so many people treat it as proof of the spirit world. In his history of science, The Ascent of Man, mathematician Jacob Bronowski is emphatic about the relationship between dogma and intolerance. It's sad that some people are dogmatic about their mystical ideas of quantum physics. On the other hand, quantum makes you think about what it's all about, what matter and mind are, much like Zeno's Paradox and Plato's Cave. I'll mention these things, not trying to prove anything, but in response to people who say the spiritual idea is absurd. Are you sure it is?

[@spiritualanarchist8162]

As a "open minded skeptic" ...I understand your point. I can only point to his book, where he commits several chapter to quantum physics & neurology. ' More important ( to me) , Most writers tend to defend only their own Concept with facts. & discard all other information. Van Lommel however , Gives & even contemplates detailed other alternatives on" consciousness & the brain" etc. , This" non rigid" attitude won me over..( sorry for the dodgy grammar, i can't find my glasses...ahum...

[@alanharoldson9903]

William James said that if you want to disprove the idea that all crows are black, all you have to do is find a single white crow. It may be that the best way to present a convincing case is to focus on the best study. I have searched all over the Internet and I haven't found a skeptic who has seriously attempted to refute the 1997 study by Ring and Cooper (book Mindsight). People blind from birth not only say that they saw for the first time during their NDEs but that they recognized what they saw. People who acquire sight surgically do not, and need training to recognize everything. If so much as one person interviewed by Ring had an out-of-body experience, OBE is real.

[@spiritualanarchist8162]

Alan Haroldson Aah William James , the U.S "Only" but "member" of the top 5 ,best philosophers ever produced in Western Culture .( Ergo, I Can not deny, nor add anything to this comment . ;-)

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

Try out Stuart Hameroff. quantum biology is a new field. Jack Tuscynzki is another quantum biologist. Dr. Mae-Wan Ho did important research in quantum biology. JohnJoe McFadden's book is a must-read on the topic. Good luck.

[@arthurriechert6473]

For the record I don't believe in Hell. I believe everyone becomes enlightened when they enter that Light.

[@arthurriechert6473]

Yes, I think he crossed over to the other side. So did Pam Reynolds. Pam died a couple of years ago I believe? Pam was 53 years old when she died. Her heart gave out. Not sure when Howard Storm died? I'm fairly certain he has crossed over though.

[@jstylezPictures]

he hasn't hes still alive but his stories nonsense hell doesn't exist just paradise, heaven and the source

[@zainabs786]

Awesome!!

[@TheseEyesGod]

Beautiful comment - open mind, yet with a healthy skepticism. I respect that. Perhaps the best story of all that fits your criteria of being from those in the medical profession is that of Eben Alexander, another heart surgeon - only he had the NDE himself. He was also a life-long skeptic about all of this. Since the outer layer of his brain was completely destroyed, there was no possible way it was brain generated. He wrote Proof of Heaven. He's very dear.

[@Dion_Mustard]

I wonder why 80% of people have no memory? This wasn't really addressed. Surely such a profound experience should be remembered by every single person? By the way, I believe consciousness is more than brain. So I believe these experiences are genuine, but can anyone explain why vast majority have no recollection?

[@razony]

That's the next big question to address. My guess. Something to do with their journey. Just not there time, at this time. If any of you have an NDE, ask that question please!

[@imperiomx6392]

My theory is that they forget the experience because of the damage they received. I believe the 80% somehow forgot the experience.

[@alpacino4857]

I have few questions. (1) Could it be that it is our mind (brain) that is playing a trick on us during the NDE episode ? (2) Are they any cases of people who are not the religious type of people and yet there still see the life review during NDE ? (3) What about other species like dog and cat ? Will they have NDE too. Or has any NDEs greeted by their dead pets on the other side ?

[@Dion_Mustard]

this is not a trick of the mind. do your research. read pim van lommel's book.

[@تجربهنزدیکمرگ]

1. there are lots of experiences that have had objective outputs, such as seeing doctors and nurses when you are outside your body, and describe exactly what they have done or what even they have thought! when you are scientifically dead! 2. yes a lot. as far as I know there is no correlation between being religious or atheist to have these NDE's(pim van lommel said, and it was part of his research) or having life review. 3. We don't know! because they don't talk with us! but there are lots of people who have seen their pets during NDE experience. because in that side there is no word, and it is just thoughts that transfer directly between beings, when someone meets with his or her pet during NDE, it is like seeing their relatives! because now they can speak emotionally(not by words).

[@razony]

1) I think NO! The veridical NDE removes that doubt. A third party that can collaborate the NDE. 2) Anybody can have an NDE regardless of religion or faith. 3) Pets? I would say yes, but not much data that they do.

[@9940r024]

Scientists are rarely religious and therefore are reluctant to accept that we all have a sole. It is our sole that holds consciousness and therefore the reason that when we die we move to heaven where we can recognize our relatives etc and remember our past ! This is also the reason that when people have a near death experience they rarely want to return to their earthly bodies. Our sole never dies !

[@Kluncan]

Defence Man Just the shoe does...

[@itsalondonthing9562]

I agree with pierre tellhard de chardin We are spiritual beings having a human experience

[@mokocono5784]

Howard Storm is still alive dude. Check wikipedia :)

[@banginghats2]

Epigenetics doesn't really change DNA, it changes the expression of DNA.

[@sharpear1031]

There are many pairs of organs in the body, including the two lobes of the brain. This is the best explanation I have heard of receiving from consciousness on the one hand, and sending back our physical memory. Personally, I believe one pathway to understanding this is that the physical memory from the brain of sensory things goes into each cell which then comes out through the body in pores and so forth but has become encoded in our DNA. At this time, I am examining the idea that we come and return to our DNA but there is a more vast field where we can receive vibes beyond our DNA

[@razony]

Come and return to our DNA? DNA dies when the body dies.

[@albertfairtax1021]

"The technological societies of the planet (pg. 67) have little experience with what true love really is. Fed a diet of sexual based unfulfilling relationships as love, it is no surprise that family life has reached a disastrous level for so many. Every negative aspect is paraded as the norm. Just as each individual is a human becoming, so also each relationship and family is a entity becoming, formed by the combination focus of the 2 or more included within it. With no agreed upon ideal purpose and few of the character traits necessary to carry each through the experience, the only answer seems to be the experience of a stream of beginnings and endings. In contrast, those who have had what is called near death experiences return to their conscious realities with regret for having to return and an overwhelming experience of what they term love. These were experiences of the energies that emanate through the creative focus that maintains and expands this galaxy. It is, when analyzed, if that is even possible, the action of the universal laws to their full extent: attraction, intention and allowance resulting in the harmony of balance. This focus is supported by an even greater focus of these laws in action. It is the added presence of harmony that seems so intensely pleasant in those brief experiences." Book 2 ref, myfocusofpurpose.org People who have had near death experiences talk about life reviews, how they see what they did to others in the eyes of who they did it to. Imagine the life review of a huge terrorist who signs off on thousands and thousands of deaths via terror drone attacks. Could be literally millions of years life review for such evil ones. Who they killed and wounded and how it effected all, and I mean ALL the relatives and friends, and for how many years and years and years per each person. - is this really how it is? Ask the people who have had those near death experiences. I'm not one of them. Danion Brinkley is one who has had 4 near death experiences. Brinkley was a low level mercenary, and he describes that each time he had to go through the life review, and he describes it as "I had to go through the wwwhhhhoooooolllleeee thing". The whole thing, and Brinkley was just a low level hit man. What about the big terrorists who sign off on killing 25 innocent people in order to kill 1 guy they say is a terrorist? No trial by jury. Nothing. So what's this guy who signs off on drone attacks every day, what's his life review? Millions of years? Millions of years of the hell he did to others, all the pain he did to them through their experience of it? I have a game called the zyac game I invented (see videos on it.) It uses the pendulum. I was thinking about how Obama "N-worded" himself And here's the message I got from zyac: NIGD Amazing Paranormal Story here www.myfocusofpurpose.org/about.html

[@sylviadragoon1770]

You can have it while sleeping also.

[@glenallen623]

what's the work's outings? i wanna get the joke !

[@photopicker]

George Ritchie: Return From Tomorrow This book is a mind bender. A major title every human being should read at least once. I got to dialog with George by email before his death. I wanted to make a movie of his journey. That never happened.

[@weewilly2007]

when i saw the mushroom head, i was born and i was dead?

[@TheseEyesGod]

Exactly - "on the brain." Once you find you're not the mind - you have a mind, instead - that gives precious breathing room - a bit of distance from mind's perspective. We manifest what we fear - so it's better to get into it, to get to the bottom of it, instead of repression or distraction. You may even find a childhood memory at its base. We use the tools of thought & belief to actually create our reality - so there's no need to create a hell if you don't want to. It's your choice ;-)

[@glenallen623]

HOW CAN ANYONE LIVE A HAPPY LIFE IF THEY BELIEVE THAT PEOPLE ARE IN A STATE OF UNENDING ETERNAL SUFFERING ? IT IS THE WORST THING A HUMAN COULD THINK ABOUT. HAVE YOU EVER ACTUALLY REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT IT?

[@sadol11]

Sometimes Ian tries to understand conciousness in the newtonian paradigm, which is impossible, so he keep asking, where is it, where does it come from?: he would do better letting go of space concept in the matter of conciousness.

[@ronnyraves]

18:41 his mind blew up

[@arthurriechert6473]

Negative NDEs? It's like a roller coaster. Some folks that ride roller coasters absolutely love them and then there are other people who when they ride roller coasters are terrified. It is your own perception of the experience that dictates whether you have a good trip or not.

[@blue_bread8392]

It's so interesting when it's scientists proving the existence of God and the heavenly world.