Pin Up vs Pin Down and How to Use Them! | Ballsplanations Ep.7

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[@cowleysmobilewelding]

I bowled league and tournaments 30 years ago. I just got back into it this year. Crazy how much has changed

[@cwagner4704]

Same here my friend , just the amount of information and instruction that’s available now as opposed to back then is staggering . My best resource for instruction back then was Bo Burton’s tips on the PBA championships every Saturday

[@TheShackGuy]

And now I know WHY I prefer pin down drills. Another stellar video Mikey, please keep them coming!

[@timmartin1354]

Love the low flaring balls, I find most balls now are too aggressive for me so need to tame them down. Good to see the difference.

[@ghettoshopper7509]

Love this, you are definitely one of the better people to explain and flesh out what you're teaching us. Thanks so much

[@user-xe4hc6hc7s]

One of the best technical explanations of pin up bs pin down I have seen!

[@thebigeasy8609]

Good stuff EasyMikeBreezy! I really like my pin downs. Being a lefty and playing that typical lefty line pin down works really well for me. Thanks Mike for the explanation of the two. Preesh.

[@danschweiger3700]

Great demonstration Mikey! Been watching yours and Darren’s tip videos for about 3 months and my average went from 185 to 200. Thanks for the help!

[@dtsuinami]

okay much needed, i had no idea this related to the flare lines thank you Mikey

[@Mathewtrades]

thank you for the education on the pins! great content!

[@CrAzYPiNoY_69]

Another great ballspanation. Keep them coming 🔥🔥🔥

[@IronMaiden756]

This was SO good. Very easy to understand. Thanks!

[@bowlersoup]

Awesome timing on the vid. Been wanting to mess around with pin down layouts for a while now! 👋🏻

[@lonnieschwartzkopf2185]

Just got my first personal ball from my brother in law and you, your brother , and Chris have helped me learn and figure out a lot over the past few months

[@gysbritz2499]

Wow... ball and bag, can only dream

[@williemorrison5006]

Excellent job

[@jenniferboone-sz1lo]

Very helpful, Michael. You answered some questions I've been mulling for a while. Thanks a bunch.

[@Chrisplayssports]

I was actually thinking of finally adding a pin down ball to the bag and this video sealed the deal! Thank you

[@AyoMrB]

Let's go 30k! Love to see your channel growing. Seems like yesterday you were topping 20k.

[@dalewilliams6440]

Thanks for your tips. Now I'm learning what up and down pin are

[@SteveJones-ul9ex]

Very well stated and demonstrated so we could understand and make the decision for how we throw it. Keep up the good work!

[@ericdelfosse6089]

Great explanation! Made so easy. Thank you

[@brandonsummersii9531]

Just started bowling and I love the timing of this video🎉🎉

[@THEKOBE7612]

Excellently explained

[@giangdavis]

love your explanations, keep it up

[@babygraceful]

Thanks for the video Mike! This helps me a lot. Keep these helpful videos coming please. 👏

[@AnotherNewBowler]

Thanks for the content! This pin-up/pin-down comparison answered a few questions I’ve been having

[@darinbowling2740]

Great information!! Thanks for making this video!

[@txb4u]

Thank you for explaining the difference, it makes more sense to now.

[@raycheljohnson304]

Super helpful video, Mikey, thank you! My boyfriend and I have gotten into bowling this year, this was much needed. Surface change video next!!

[@user-fr2om7qf4u]

Love your content. New to bowling. Very informative and helpful.

[@ninety9million928]

Keep going with the dope content... Thank you!!!

[@masondew-bw3sh]

Thanks Mikey this really helps me when drilling a ball!

[@BuzzsawBrent]

Another awesome vid! Thanks Mikey!!😊

[@rc4361]

Always very informative

[@koreylo6082]

Great Video. Congrats on 30k!!!

[@melodicchronic5181]

Very helpful. I'm new to bowling and I just had a new ball drilled and I noticed they drilled directly into the pin. I wondered what that meant. And everything online is "pin up vs pin down". No one talks about what directly into the pin does. So, Now I'm extra curious, why did they drill my ring finger into the pin and what does that do??

[@tomharrison7346]

Fantastic explanation

[@SteveSmith-mx1bu]

Your tips are fantastic thx u

[@jasonwkamigaki2688]

That ball is so pretty! 🤩

[@davidbeamon6726]

another amazing video very informative

[@Dadpool_510]

My favorite videos by far.

[@dredugan6893]

Great vid. Gimme that ball and tote!!!

[@CasualGamerPlays]

Omg!! A bowling ball and tote giveaway! I need this, seeing that i'm getting back into bowling after 3 yrs away from it. Thanks for the video, i've asked so many pro shop managers the difference of reaction and movement of a bowling ball when its drilled pin up versus pin down. I'm also thinking about getting the Idol Optimum and Summit Peak.

[@mikedavis2895]

Keep the fire coming

[@brianlevandowski3167]

Awesome bag!

[@benbugayong1577]

Great demo!

[@user-gt1wr1vh3i]

Another good one Mikey. For the next Ballsplanations video, can you talk about tape on the forearms and wrists? When to use them. That would be helpful.

[@anthonydorazio9650]

Nice job Mike.👍

[@froop0330]

Nice explanation Mikey!

[@stevenjaragosky4633]

Like the vid. Just started bowling and trying to learn.

[@johnmaxwelliv8472]

Very informative, my favorite ball is pin down. It's my most predictable controllable ball. It leaves the fewest splits and most make able spares. I'm a right speed med-low Rev down and in bowler. I like stroking that "thang". This was extremely helpful. Thanks

[@markwilliamburright8160]

great explanation

[@TeamThrowItBetter]

That 5 1/4 with the 2-2 1/2 buffer is my absolute favorite layout. Had a ball with that pin down layout and I couldn't get a feel for it.

[@minjoongkim3119]

what would you recommend for different types of players between up and down on the house shot?

[@mikeym4196]

Definitely want to stop by your place when I come and do the pba lbc in IL

[@jennifergaudet3549]

Love your videos

[@Cody7Lee]

i like the dna coil and the new idol i can throw them both from my regular spot and move way right from the left side of the lane at the bowling ball demo

[@michaelwoods2537]

Wonderful content

[@tomcasanover736]

I think that ball is going to be amazing

[@tenzz2428]

Love the content! Can you do a video explaining what ball is good for high rev low speed players! 400+ revs 14.5 mph.

[@umbra9273]

Is that 14mph at the break point?

[@tenzz2428]

@@umbra927315-15.5 off hand and maybe 14 by break point

[@chungchu5426]

Hey Mike, where can i get the racers you are wearing?

[@jasemook]

on tour, how often did you use different layouts? would it have been easier to keep ball changes as the only main difference in your arsenal? do some types of bowling balls benefit greater from pin up vs pin down layouts? Great vid Mikey!!!

[@jeffs7773]

Still planning on a visit for a couple new balls next month when I’m in Colombus. I’m really looking forward to some help from a professional

[@jeffwatzig2213]

Good info MT, what about doing a short pin vs long pin comparison?

[@thenatural3986]

🔥

[@MikeLoves2Bowl]

I drilled my first pin down ball about a month ago. It's different since I'm use to throwing pin up. I've noticed my ball goes little longer but more skid flip in the back end. I'm throwing the bw3.0

[@phieaglesbw]

I bowl 3 nights a week and have 3 balls and a 2 ball bag. I absolutely love it

[@blakecolcomb6826]

Great video Mike!! As a 2hander what layout does Chris have for pin under?

[@cameronwieland7945]

I have two of the OG Zen's one pin-up and one pin-down. I get mixed answers as to what surfaces match better with both. Should the pin-up have more surface on it to accentuate the earlier motion and polish the pin-down to do the same (accentuate later motion)? Or polish the pin-up and put surface on the pin-down (which may bring them to be too similar areas of the bag)?

[@ripvanrevs]

I've bought so many balls lately, I'm ready for another 3 ball tote!

[@akt8384]

will the pin down ball retain more energy when it hit the pocket compare to pin up?

[@zackoakes6382]

Let’s go 30K

[@jaijieha]

Hi Mike, I wonder if it's the same concept for two handed bowlers as well?

[@wumj1606]

Ready for that giveaway 😍🥜

[@pinslayerx]

Should I do a pin up and pin down on the same ball, or should I change to a weaker or stronger ball, if I want to have both in the same bag?

[@RitchieLeong]

Hi Mikey, got a question. Legality aside, can I have a one-hander layout on my bowl while bowling two handed? Does it adversely affect the ball motion in any way? Cheers!

[@greggas1]

Every time my team bowls on the pair you do a video on, I bowl like crap. What are you doing to the lanes?🤣🤣

[@daviddeiss7907]

Hi mike, so I'm a low rev low speed bowler and I play league in a house that is medium to medium dry and I have been taking strong asymmetrical balls and drilling them short pin. After watching this video I'm kinda interested in drilling one pin down, how would a pin down layout look compared to a short pin layout? what can I expect to see? Will the pin down hook less or more and will it change the shape of the ball motion? I need to know, thanks for the video.

[@SoloBlessed]

Before I watch does this matter for 2 handlers ?

[@edcgearpocketknife]

Good video

[@Beamtron]

❤

[@2854Navman]

C'mon 30K!!!

[@louiskuamoo]

Good job Mike! So pin down, the ball rolls longer than hooks? Watching you throw the balls, the pin down was a tighter line than pin up? Aloha

[@GCare100]

I’ve been using pin up for 10 years and I’m about to try pin down tomorrow. I feel like because I am an “outside line. Bowler” I feel that pin down is going to be better for me

[@dwightphinizeeii8212]

Can you elaborate please? I think I can relate lol

[@Jackal_Blitz]

Probably also worth mentioning: The bigger the core, the greater the delta you'd see with a pin up/down comparison. Anything in the .020-.030 differential category is already flaring pretty tightly from the factory; going pin down on a small core can cause the ball to roll over its own oil and cause carrydown (yes, even if it's resin - nothing to do with urethane).

[@tvbowlingsupply]

Very valid👍🏼👍🏼

[@umbra9273]

What layout system did you use?

[@Cazyman24]

you used the word truncating the core with the pin in the palm layout as well. what's the difference in numbers and motion when comparing pin down and pin in the palm?

[@tvbowlingsupply]

Pin in palm is like the ultimate pin down

[@Agent510]

Happy birthday to Chris!

[@abrianmontoya336]

What about pin through the ring finger?

[@lpamaran22]

Only if the Pro shop was in San Diego haha

[@jeremyfranklin1510]

I'd like to see Chris Via do a pin-up and pin-down video for the 2 handers and no thumb bowlers and how the RG and differential numbers differ from a one handed bowler.

[@AverageLeagueHack]

Hello Mikey. Why do I track so high I'm damn near a full roller?

[@garla5851]

6:51 The replay is a different shot , where is the 10 pin in the replay ??

[@jamesguido9877]

What do you mean by house shot?

[@pocketrocket313]

I am looking forward to winning the ball and tote.

[@clintonkahler2082]

Hey Mikey...so if you learn your layouts...doesn't that determine if it's pin up or pin down anyways??? for example if I know my dual angle layout and give it to my pro shop guy ...would the ball just come back pin up or pin down based on what I gave him??? Thanks

[@tvbowlingsupply]

I’d hope if I gave a pso my 2 1/2 buffer it’d come back pin up everytime

[@clintonkahler2082]

so I think that's your way of saying "YES" ??? lol sorry i just dont know drilling yet...only learned layouts recently@@tvbowlingsupply

[@marcokehr4173]

👍

[@Dainslaif]

Since a pin down layout tends to be a slower/smoother arc and give you less overall board coverage, would it make sense to switch from pin up to pin down when the lanes start to get fried and you can't keep anything right of the headpin?

[@tvbowlingsupply]

It could help!

[@iwilrage]

I need a ball!

[@sourdoughprince]

I literally just taught myself the storm VLS system 🤦‍♂️ i should just always wait for Mikey to post a video, would have made it a lot easier lol