Ford Owner STUMPED for 6 MONTHS? Fixed in 15 MINUTES! (No Fuel Pressure P0231)

[@wolvessoccer]

Ivan, i want to take the time to thank you for all the free knowledge you put out. Thanks to you im already the highest paid technician at my dealership. The best part is im no longer flate rate im salary! Im only 2 years into my career. Cant thank you enough.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

That's AWESOME!! Keep up the great work!!

[@1dave301]

I've fixed several of these Fords by snipping a couple of wires and adding a new external relay to replace the internal relay.

[@r.weaver3769]

That's what I'm talking about. Bypass the stupid Ford has a better idea tax.

[@HamiltonSRink]

During a collision if the fuel line is ruptured, that integral relay is turned off by the PCM when the PCM sees the crankshaft stop turning. This was mandated by the Feds so that occupants still alive don't find themselves in a growing pool of gasoline under the vehicle, that possibly might catch fire. So, an external replaceable relay ought to be grafted into the circuit. For CYA reasons.

[@davidnull5590]

Look at the schematic on the screen, With this change the factory inertia switch will still shutoff power in the event of a crash.

[@GrumpyUnkMillions]

@@davidnull5590 And what if the inertia switch was replaced ... with a jumper? Or if said switch did not pop the ball bearing out because the impact was not enough? What if you have a failing injector that could pump the fuel tank dry into the intake manifold? What if the fuel pressure regulator failed? On older vehicles, the return line could be pouring fuel all over the place, which might not occur if the pressure did not build and the injectors did not start the engine..,., pump would be off until it started. Save a few bucks and a few minutes, but the 'new designer' could be on the hook if any of that occurred due to deleting ECM control of the pump. I would add a external relay for the slight cost, and a bunch of 'what if' problems. tom

[@mikefoehr235]

No big loss if a Ford burns

[@HamiltonSRink]

@@davidnull5590 Yes that is true. My 1989 has an inertia switch as well. I'm thinking the inertia switch is good, but someone in the legal department wanted redundancy built in.

[@bobw53jrma]

The signal that turns off that relay also supplies the power to the fuel pump.. At 5:29, you can see the signal comes out of the PCM and obviously goes to Y, but it also goes to P.. P goes to the control side of the relay which you can see at about 2:50 in the video.. . The computer isn't losing control at all.

[@thomasmcray8195]

The algorithms brought me to your page last month. After fourteen video's, I'm subscribed!

[@richb419]

Hi Ivan, remember sometimes a quick fix is often Experience at work. be sure to charge as such. the fuel pump relay is most likely going bad because of the inductive load of the pump and there is no reversed biased diode (snubber)to protect the contacts. I would add an external relay with the diode protection. Rich

[@wyattoneable]

This was a great work-a-round for an overcomplicated system. I hope you have a blessed Christmas.

[@reubenmiller7988]

Usually I'm all for the npr but in this case it would be worth adding a relay that actually lets the PCM control the fuel pump like it's supposed to.

[@bradenwuesthoff5639]

Highly agree!!!!!

[@ferrumignis]

Totally agree. Just a little extra work and retains original functionality.

[@Blitterbug]

Yeah but the dealyo here (as Ray would say) was to get the truck running and save the customer (the garage) money. The garage can consult with the vehicle owner now they know what the issue is as to whether they would like a relay added.

[@raffaeldelpiano5052]

Agreed. In the case of an accident or something the pump won't stop running

[@jakeandrus690]

​@raffaeldelpiano5052 the voltage is still being fed through the inertia switch

[@Txdvsz]

Ivan, we need thousands of guys like you across the country. People independent of any dealer or auto repair shop that have the critical thinking skills required to do what you do. We need a directory of skilled independent diagnostic technicians.

[@blackmarket2253]

Should be adding an external relay . Not letting the pump run anytime the key is on .

[@loubakker5000]

Thought the same.

[@anthonyjones5711]

Agree totally.

[@Ben-says-you-are-AWESOME]

I was going to say exactly the same! There's a reason why that relay is in the circuit, it's not there for fun. Looks to be fairly quick and easy to fit an external relay, why not just do it?! Edit: Thinking about it, this is a dangerous 'repair'. The fuel pump should not be energized unless the engine is cranking or running. In a collision, the engine could stop and because the PCM no longer has control of the fuel pump, it would still be pumping fuel. This would be extremely dangerous if a fuel line was ruptured!

[@scrappy7571]

agree!!!

[@MR.KNOWITALL1982]

Should always fix things right! What about the next guy(down the road) chasing a no fuel no start? I know it makes you look like a hero but what if vehicle is in an accednet and that inerta switch doesnt open and the person is trapped with fuel leaking?

[@steveo6631]

Beautiful solution... Ford should have designed that originally... I've been binge watching your GM playlist for a few days... Holy cow, what a lot of content... Hours and hours and I'm not even halfway through... Priceless info you put out there, and its appreciated... Regards

[@jamesofallthings3684]

Why would they go that when they can charge you thousands?

[@renejensen5656]

Nice and simple solutions, but i my small mind there must be a reason for Ford want to control the fuel pump. Perhaps if the SRS are activated, perhaps in a frontcollision. Then the fuel are cut off. Just to prevent BBQ of the driver and passengers.😊😊 If this is the case I would have put in a external relay. 12 volt relay with 40 amp contact are cheap.

[@davidnull5590]

With this change the factory inertia switch will still shutoff power in the event of a crash.

[@petrnemecek4379]

@@davidnull5590 Inertia switch will only trip in high G collision or rollover, the relay is for other cases. For example when you high center on something and it cuts the fuel line.

[@somerandomguy3868]

Excellent diagnosis, I would add a relay or replace the box, but your fix gets back on the road and that's the whole idea

[@Tomyk10101]

Let me start by saying I love all you videos Ivan. This on the other hand is a bad idea in my opinion, This should have had an external relay installed, The way Ivan did this, the fuel pump will not time out when ignition is on with KOEO. Using the circuit diagram it would have been a tiny bit more work to add the external relay.

[@SeanBZA]

There are kits to replace that relay. all the power and control signals are available at that module as well.

[@lvsqcsl]

I was just lying on the couch and clicked on your video. At 0:18 you said, "Excursion" and since I own one I perked up. Then I saw that vehicle behind you and realized what it was. Oh well; it was still good. GREAT VIDEO!

[@andysmith2155]

Not to be a safety Sally but with the computer controlled fuel pump relay bypassed there is power to the pump anytime the key is on? No 5 second prime or crank signals to keep the fuel pump on anymore, would that be safe?

[@davidhollfelder9940]

When making a Y splice without cutting the straight wire, with vinyl electrical tape insulated, you can put a drop of super glue under the end of the tape, so the tape won’t get gooey and unravel after time passes.

[@handendaer]

if this was an "internet", "smart"-car, this probably would've been patched even before this or any video about it was released. doing gods work mate.

[@MiFobz]

Another great video, keeping so many of the older cars on the road when others give up. I appreciate your thorough videos. Thanks Ivan .

[@pingpong9656]

Agree with external relay solution - if PCM has a need to turn off PUMP it can.

[@sspnugen]

Thanks for 2 very entertaining you tube channels, PHAD and SMA , you guys are great and Mrs O

[@Jimmyky77]

Thanks, for keeping so many of these Older Vehicles on the Road, Ivan 👍🏻

[@CUSTOMWORKS7.3PSD]

You do not need to switch fuse boxes I rebuild them all the time and install a much larger relay for the pump. I also relocate the fuel pump module on the 04-10

[@windward2818]

By rebuilding the Central Junction Box, do you mean you take it apart and replace the internal fuel pump relay? If so, how are you able to add one that is much larger? or do you add an external relay to replace the internal relay? Yes, I think in the salt belt it is a little crazy that the OEMs mount the fuel pump control module underneath the vehicle. I would too also relocated it or protect it.

[@CUSTOMWORKS7.3PSD]

@@windward2818 Yes I remove the entire box and take it apart so I can re-flow all connections on the board and replace with new relays on the board (non serviceable ) and the weak relay for the pump is replaced with a heavy duty omron that has the same pegs but sits proud by another 1/4 inch This relay handles the heat better Also I replace all of the removal relays and clean the fuses. There is a reason those relays are there and by passing them can cause over heating later on of the wire and connections I also have done this for a guy who seen my other channel and he asked to have a replaceable relay added in which I did

[@windward2818]

@@CUSTOMWORKS7.3PSD Are the internal relays open frame type (do not have plastic covers)?

[@richardsawtell256]

i agree that is it stupid to have non serviceable relays , i had a diesel hyundai that burnt its PCB contacts to the fuel pump , the designs today are terrible , great video once again

[@chasruss212r]

Interesting repair, I personally would prefer to add an external relay, but this works. I also like to hang a tag, or wrap a piece of tape on the bypass wire and write something on it indicating it's a fuel pump relay bypass, so futures techs that see it know why it's there.

[@Horatio1886build]

Absolutely must add that relay. I spent several years in litigation support. As smart as Ivan is and he his clever , we cannot alter factory design without assuming the liability. And this is a potential multi million dollar liability. CYA CYA CYA. Install a relay! Please we don’t want a broke financially enslaved Ivan channel next.

[@Horatio1886build]

There is some reason they designed it that way as people have alluded to.

[@Horatio1886build]

Remember Ford has a history with liability , Hint Pinto. Although that was not this defect. Still you can see why they may have added extra “ layers” of protection against liability due to fire after a crash. Add it back in.

[@danielkearns3600]

Leave switch on for a while and it possibly will set high code because computer will make command for a few seconds and turn off pump if engine is not started and running. I have fixed many of these fuse boxes and keep one ready to install in stock and swap out and repair the other and put on shelf. It use to be so common but could wire external relay like tipm on chrysler's, dodge models

[@Drives31forhalo]

There is a safety risk here. If the truck is in an accident where the fuel line was severed the fuel pump will continue to run as long as the key is on, dumping fuel on the ground and creating a fire hazard. The ECU would normally stop the fuel pump as soon as the engine stalled, making a fire significantly less likely and less devastating. Your bypass would literally be adding fuel to the fire if there was one. The inertia switch should in theory trip, but those take a good shock to trigger. Depending on the accident it may not cut off the fuel. That said, still better than junking the truck over a stupid module. I would have integrated some kind of stall cut-off though.

[@billbarney4937]

no thats not true. on fords the inertia switch cuts pump power to pump in a crash

[@Drives31forhalo]

@@billbarney4937 I literally acknowledged the inertia switch in my second paragraph. To repeat my point: as someone who had a ford and was in an accident that totaled it, it doesn't always trip.

[@topher8634]

Awesome workaround, Ivan. I'd say I don't understand why manufacturers integrate relays into a $600 or more part, but I know exactly why.

[@Beethechange1]

Yes, I was lucky sold my 2000 excursion V10 last year with 250,000 miles, transmission and engines still running fine

[@1990smitch]

I thought because I installed my car stereo back in 80 that I knew all there was to wiring, my mind hurts watching your videos 😂😂

[@johnz8210]

That works, but an external relay using the same circuits would be safer and working as designed. Like Mopar did with their TIPM external relay kit. No rpm no fuel pump.

[@JamesAgans]

Lolol there are more videos on KZbin regarding TIPM's gone bad than Carter has Little Liver Pills.

[@johnz8210]

@@JamesAgans I hear that phrase now and then - who is Carter?

[@ysitrim88]

Thanks!

[@timothybloodgood1365]

Ivan, you are an absolute excellent Diagnostic Technician and I enjoy all of your videos, keep up the great work and videos please.

[@hpelisr]

Well done Ivan, I see the comments, and you are helping a lot of people.

[@humbledhands]

Great video I had the same issue on my stepfathers 2002 f250 superduty v10. I put an external relay by fuse box felt safer that way also I can replace relay and have a testing spot for future. Worked good but the secondary circuit high code is still there. Doesn't set light and runs like a charm. Had a tough time confirming fix cause of fuel gauge issues one I had didn't have adapter. So I rented one from autozone. Car was running, revving up battery voltage good but no fuel pressure on gauge reading. Didn't want to take out on road cause I used up free tows and didn't want to pay the high tow bill. So I got one from O'Reily's and same thing. It needs a certain pressure just to start I thought. So I ordered one from Amazon but adapter I needed was damaged! Lol so I go to harbor freight and but one there and it worked. Had fuel pressure on readings and it was perfect. So I say all that to say be weary of rental fuel gauges. Might end up with a new fuel pump when not even needed.

[@fuzzs8970]

Ohhh no Ivan you lied required a piece of wire😂. Great diagnostic and nice work. Thank you. Can you make a modification and place a relay somehow to replace the damaged one?

[@joec5057]

Isn’t the fuel pump relay there as a protection. With this jump the pump will run when ever the key is on. If the car stalls it should shut off. That’s what the fuel pump relay is really for. Like for instance if the fuel line were to become compromised to the point where it leaks causing a stall it will continue to pump fuel out until the key is turned off.

[@ArtVan-s4l]

So after the fix, when the ignition switch is on and when the engine is not running the pump is running ? If yes, then maybe adding the "bypass" relay would be a better idea. Of course I'm assuming in normal operation ( before the fix ) the pump only primes when the ignition switch is first turned on and then turns off if the engine is not started.

[@joekuntzman4016]

Reminds me of Chrysler's TIPM. Relays should always be replaceable just like fuses. It's a silly design, good diagnosis.

[@baukesikma9374]

There is a big reason pcm controls the fuel relay think about it.

[@chocyme]

If you use CK automatic wire strippers (there are many versions of this) you can strip a section and connect another cable in seconds. It cuts, grips and pulls the insulation in one movement without cutting the conductors.

[@leonkernan]

I think I'd have done it properly and put a new external relay in. There's a reason it's meant to be there.

[@CarCareAuto]

That's so crazy, I literally just did a bypass like this for a customer Camry yesterday. However, I told him that this is only temporary and he has to promise me to buy a replacement relay (on Toyota it's an unserviceable cartridge with multiple relays inside, atleast the cartridge can be replaced) because in the event of an accident, the job of the Toyota circuit opening relay is to open the circuit to cut off fuel. He agreed but I don't think he's buying the relay lmao. Still gotta cover your ass though.

[@toshayonguard4253]

Relay untouchable cut wires install universal relay. …..🤘🏼🇺🇸

[@wellseverett5128]

Yeah. The concerns of safety really hit me hard. Allowing the pump to run continuously would be a bit nasty in a KO-EO situation. I think an external relay added in would be the best thing. Inertia switch aside. A key switched relay controlled by the engine electronics. Definitely. Reminds me of a copycat guy who installed an electric booster pump in his muscle car. Like I did in the few I had. He went to a car show and left the accy. switch on. Big mistake because that's the circuit that the pump was wired into. After a few hours with the radio on he got in to go for a ride. People tell me vividly what happened then. A Chrysler 426 Hemi with 2 4 barrel carbs. When he hit the starter. There was a loud "THUD" under the hood. He popped the hood before the fire under it could bake the paint and someone came with a fire extinguisher. The valve covers were warped. A few cover bolts were blown off flush with the cylinder head. The dipstick launched out. And being a Hemi with plug wires in tunnels. Were blown right off of the plugs. A big mess. The engine after repairs had a rattle that he never was able to get fixed after a teardown. New engine with Keith Black parts. All for a ten-buck relay and proper wiring. Me? Electric pump wired into the oil pressure switch with a relay and tickled by the ignition switch in start only to give the relay coil some pixies. No oil pressure, no pump. Until the starter is engaged. Yeah. I think an outboard relay at the very least would have been almost as quick. And much, MUCH safer. But you do amazing work. This one made me think. Ivan, Really??!!

[@jtoddk98]

Very common issue on these trucks. Other weird electrical issues happen on these as well due to a windshield leak that gets that same fuse block on the passenger side footwell all wet.

[@T-Hogie]

Another one of your good ol Russian repairs. I like what one of your other commeters suggested, bypass it with an external replaceable relay.

[@jamesward5721]

Guy towed in a Landcruiser here for me to look at, maybe 6 or 7 months ago - crank no start. I didn't bother doing anything beyond giving it a quick crank-over. Ears diagnosed no fuel going to engine. I told him it needed a new in-tank fuel pump. He said he needed to think things over... okaaay... Off he goes with his jeep.. Fine by me. Pal who works at another garage rang me there earlier today to tell me that guy went to his bosses garage that gave it a twirl with their scanner - said it needed injectors.. that didn't work so they fitted a new high pressure fuel pump.. then a new ECU....then they pulled the head as it had "low compression...".. It sat there eating new parts till yesterday, lol - which is when they fitted a new in-tank fuel pump & the vehicle fired right up. I kid ye not. Guys bill is seemingly in the several thousands. I asked Pal wtf the story was?? Yer man said he thought I was too rough looking & hadn't even bothered scanning his vehicle, lol.. which is why he went elsewhere. I did lol a bit tbh..

[@laser-sj]

Now the PCM relay is passing more than rated current and will eventually fail too..... this along with the obvious crash safety issues 😂

[@bobw53jrma]

No its not.. The wire out from the PCM goes to P before the fuse, and Y after the fuse.. P is the control side of the fuel pump relay, Y goes to the power side of the fuel pump relay.. . Full fuel pump current was already going through the PCM relay.

[@edjeep]

your diagnostics are right on... but I think I will stick to welding...lol. Thank you for your videos

[@imranyaqub828]

Better than factory & nobody knows you were there - excellent 🥳🥳

[@Guillotines_For_Globalists]

I never knew the Expedition had a rear cargo door that opened like that.

[@calholli]

Not to be a negative nancy.. but, I don't really like this fix because the PCM is no longer in control of the fuel pump, and the pump is going to run no matter what when he turns on the key. So if he's sitting somewhere with the key on and running his radio a bit or something-- the pump is just running and running and will likely shorten it's life. As you showed on (2:20).. The control wire was also exposed (12 on the junction box.. or 27 on the PCM)... So a better solution would have been to add an external relay and tie it in to the same control -- and also the same power feed (which you did). At least that way, the PCM still has it's original control and not leave any codes at all; all we did was make the relay external... (and I know you did mention it at the end).... .. I guess it's not a big deal as long as he knows not to sit with the key on when it's not running.

[@philm9750]

Thanks for all the videos. I invented the first screw in type piercing g probe. Phil

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

@@philm9750 Phil's Probe, Scanner Danner Favorite! 😀

[@jatco84]

Only..because you know what your'e doing. Excellent my man. Love yu vids..!!

[@JeepinDm]

2004 Excursion - v10. Had the exact same problem. Wish this video had existed back then. I had to find a used replacement part as no longer available from Ford.

[@ganeshnarayan5505]

Great video Ivan Thanks for sharing.

[@TheRollingTimes]

Did you drive cycle the vehicle to make sure all the emissions monitors would set with that repair? I would be worried about that...some vehicles that have an ecu controlled fuel pump would not be happy about this. This may be old enough it doesn't care. Appreciate your videos Ivan!

[@sblagg527]

Ivan: "No one will ever know we were here." Potential customer: "Yeah, uh... I seen this youtube video...." 🙂

[@Oneill5491]

So your bypass begs the question: what was the point of Ford installing a separate independently controlled fuel pump relay downstream of the PCM relay?

[@markelliott7917]

Probably a good idea to tag the jumper in case some other Ivan has to trouble shoot the high signal code on the fuel pump.

[@richardcranium5839]

mark it " ivan was here " so south main can get a laugh when he sees it lol

[@xanderlander8989]

Ivan, please tell me this was a quick bush repair to get the truck home. To do this safely, the fuel pump relay must be replaced, not bypassed. An external relay and socket would do the trick nicely. You don't want the pump running continuously key on engine off because if the fuel line breaks while driving the ECM can't shut off the pump to prevent a huge volume of gas spraying out all over the hot engine creating a fire risk. It's unlikely but not something you want to be liable for.

[@robtemple3445]

Sorry, Ivan. I normally agree with you on 99% on your NPR repairs. But this is a safety issue. Normally, if a vehicle flips over and the PCM doesn't receive a crank signal with the key on, it will disable the fuel pump to mitigate a gasoline fire hazard. I would have wired in an external relay. From a legal standpoint, everyone who is celebrating this as an awesome feat doesn't know their ass from their elbow. This is an easy win for the plaintiff (car owner). I hope you reconsider. IMHO

[@general1977]

I absolutely agree. Why not install a relais socket and a relais? Less than 20 bucks.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

If the vehicle flips over, then the Inertia Switch will cut power to the pump anyways 😉👍

[@Jumalten001]

​@@PineHollowAutoDiagnosticsand if it doesn't? You removed the failsafe for that by doing this "repair". Lost a ton of respect for you from this video. I wouldn't trust you making any fixes in my vehicles now

[@harveyataddlety4073]

​@@Jumalten001 He could care less about where you get your car repaired. You don't make a difference.

[@ms01885]

Not the correct repair. A 💩 repair.

[@cdh76]

That's janky. There's a reason for that relay. All so you can say "no parts required" as if that's some magic achievement.

[@bobm8391]

My only thought on this is, is there any condition where the computer needs to shut the fuel pump off? Like saving the cat or anti theft???

[@KentDiego]

My trick to strip wires is to use a cigarette lighter to heat up the insulation to melt then pull apart. Never have to worry about damaging wire.

[@anthonyjones5711]

Thanks for all the videos. This fix is one I’m not happy with, it bypasses all the safety features to prevent fuel 3:42 flowing in the event of a collision and endangers the occupants of the vehicle.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

@@anthonyjones5711 Inertia Switch is still functional 👍

[@richardcranium5839]

i've reset ford inertia switches from pothole hits this ones still hooked up no biggie

[@alantrimble2881]

See any Ford product from the late 1990s/early 2000s. They used an IRCM The IRCM (Integrated Relay Control Module) was basically a box with several relays soldered to a PCM. Cheap to manufacture, but hot dog shit to repair. The car needs a $5 relay, but it gets a $250 (in 1990s $) IRCM.

[@tomtke7351]

(1/of 3) I'd of preferred you replicate the "pitted" relay externally to the junction box rather than just jumper around it. However I'm uncertain if the control lines for this pitted relay are available. If so, an additional external relay best meets engineering criteria. -----(2/of 3) If it's possible to remove all connections to the pitted relay load contacts you might revitalize points by applying a punch-through voltage to them. Clearly, if done wrong you'll roast your terminal block.---- (3/of 3) I learned early in my career that relay points for D.C. currents thru inductive loads require a diode across across inductor load IN OPPOSITE DIRECTION to current flow to allow collapsing inductor flux to continue flowing thus preventing arcing across relay points. Recall, inductor voltage, V_L = L(dI/dT) so that quick dT => enormous V_L unless this load diode shorts out collapsing flux. Also with instantaneous decaying current (dI), V_L goes negative to then forward bias its diode to collapse its field rather than jump the relay points. DO FUEL PUMPS HAVE INTEGRAL COIL DIODES??

[@windward2818]

Yes in tank fuel pumps have built in free-wheeling (suppression) diode. However, if you are in doubt you could monitor the circuit when the pump is turned off to see if there is an inductive kick. But, in the video the owner had already replaced the fuel pump in the tank so the diode should be brand new. The diode is integral with the pump internal motor connection. Most quick repairs for this problem with older vehicles are to parallel an external relay to perform the same function of the internal relay while making sure to disconnect the internal relay coil connection so the PCM low side driver only has to drive one relay coil. Based on the wiring diagram shown in the video you can easily parallel the fuel pump relay function for this vehicle. Many times if you pull apart the Central Smart Junction Box you will find the reason for no power feed is one of the relay power PCB solder joints has cracked and failed and the failure is not due to pitted relay contacts. Cracked solder joints can even burn the PCB depending on the design so if the PCB is severely damaged you may have to add an external relay anyway. Many times you can clearly see that the solder joint or a PCB trace at the joint is completely severed.

[@tomtke7351]

@windward2818 thank you!

[@jerrytabeling]

Ivan, please reply to all comments about potential safety issues. Unclear how your fix speaks to safety isses.

[@grahamr1234]

The relay lasted 200K miles, replacing the whole unit is still a good value solution !

[@brianw8963]

Who else in this realm ever comes up with these solutions? No one I know of. Fantastic work Ivan.👍👍🇺🇸

[@JimmyMakingitwork]

Ahhh the old rely bypass Ford, done a bunch of these. Nissan and Chrysler apparently loved the idea and did it too not long after. :/

[@greggc8088]

Tip-If you have a vehicle with internal a fuel pump relay integrated into the fuse box, such as this Ford and Chrysler products, always carry a prepared jumper wire and a wiring diagram with connector view so that when the impending zombie apocalypse does come (and it most definitely will) you will not become zombie food. Your welcome.

[@pauldavis8716]

Outstanding work Ivan. This is how I work, always thinking out the box in practical way make customers happy and simultaneously making some money

[@himeedajew]

Peanut gallery came out on this one. Its an exploder with 200k a rod will be throne before the fuel pump kicks the bucket

[@glenharper3136]

Thanks for the video Ivan.

[@michaelpowers4731]

But why not take a little extra time and run an external relay so it functions like factory and doesn’t set a code at all

[@WendyGloverer]

Very inspiring! I will look forward to more videos! 💚🍓

[@Jimmyky77]

BOT 🛑

[@jaygold4467]

Brilliant analysis.

[@ThunderbirdRocket]

Fantastic tutorial ! Thanks

[@robertjospeh1097]

Great work Ivan

[@gonzgarr1592]

Ivan you are a wizard love watching you thanks you

[@qemuandroid_8.144]

Nice solution, but if it were my truck I'd just replace the internal relay with an external one, making sure it would behave as stock.

[@richardcranium5839]

wow reading the comments there is no love for ivan on this fix. if that thing makes another year in new york state it'll be lucky.

[@VedafoneYT]

Hi Ivan, I have a doubt about how the fuse been powered while testing with light both sides however in the diagram was after the relay and the feed was before the relay not before the fuse...... Did you check wire integrity from the relay to the pump and the feed in the load side under the relay.

[@Roboticdoughbull3k]

Nice job Ivan💯

[@Usmanthemecano]

Reminds me of Chrysler Dodge tipm deal

[@gerardmccarthy2432]

Remember ....."Last expert on the job" when looking for who to sue if issues arise accident wise.

[@billgateskilledmyuncle23]

If the relay just dangles off of the wiring harness, I would just cut off the wires and put little slip-on crimp terminals and then slide them onto a new relay. We're talking a $10 repair to do it right.

[@ludvigjakobsson9347]

Nice fix. I have a question. Some cars have a safety function that will shut off the fuel pump if you are in a accident. I am not sure if the truck has that function but your fix would probable disable that function right?

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

@@ludvigjakobsson9347 the Inertia Switch will trip and cut power to the pump anyways in an accident 😉

[@haroldhawkins9370]

Nice video Ivan.

[@rcf8367]

😱 Check your ‘jumper’ wire guage size & what wire size you’re tapping into. Should match or be larger than the existing long run of fuel pump power wire…

[@the_bishop]

If I was a shop owner, I'm not sure how comfortable I'd be with the bypass. It disables PCM control of the fuel pump, which in turn disables a number of safeties. That's a huge liability for the shop. An external relay, while adding a bit of cost and time to the repair, would retain all the needed safety provisions.

[@timmieclark9976]

Wire around the bad relay, it is fused and turned on by the ECM relay

[@autoacoustics4938]

I have stripped those boxes before you just have to take a picture of the fuses pop the clips and separate the box to get to the relay

[@kingtut5923]

You the MAGICIAN

[@amundsen575]

Late 90's ford pickup trucks also had relay soldered to fuse panel board, I desoldered relay and replaced, it is a tiny relay, your fix would have been easier and a bigger relay

[@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT]

Well done, Ivan! Clever way to bypass an absurd problem "invented" by Ford! Initially I thought you would install an external relay, but when you said "no parts required" and shown the diagram, it's a perfect solution.

[@truracer20]

It's not a perfect solution. Any time the vehicle has any service requiring key on engine off the fuel pump will run constantly. Run out of gas and leave the key on and the pump runs dry. If you run out of gas and want to push the vehicle or flat tow it the key must be on. If you run out of gas and call for a tow the tow operator will turn the ignition on to turn the wheels, load the vehicle etc, and the pump will run constantly with the key on, running a liquid transfer pump dry is never good for the pump.

[@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT]

@@truracer20 You are right. I hadn't thought of that situation. Thanks for pointing that out 👍

[@clintharris1898]

This sounds similar to the F-150 fuse 27 problem. It's so common, there's a Fuse 27 relocation kit.

[@mattcat231]

ive done quite a few of these, for some reason it seems to be a little more prevalent on the 2013 models over the others