Customer States: I Already Replaced the PARTS! (Auction VW...AIRBAG Light)

[@lvsqcsl]

My boss's wife got a new Volkswagen Tiguan. I explained they aren't a good choice. He bought it anyway. He's having problems with it the dealer can't repair. I may need to send him to you. Great video!

[@nickchannel5364]

I'm impressed with Ivan because he never loses his patience, and is always more curious than frustrated.

[@davyarthurs]

Yep very true. However, that Maserati showed everyone has a breaking point - the cursing was flowing in this one 😂

[@zxtenn]

He also knows what roads to follow and read a scope like a heart surgeon, serious intelligence.

[@cyberslacker5150]

Remember ScannerDanner when he blew the airbags in a car? I guess it's a safety thing if the ground is a case ground. If the module is unbolted the ground is disconnected and so the module isn't powered. Ans so safe to handle. What ScannerDanner did is to connect a grounded jumper wire to the case of the module. And so with the key on it powered the module and while flipping the module with his hand it thought the car was rolling on it's side and so the bags blew. If you had put a jumper wire instead of bolting it back in there wold been a risk of the bags blowin. Very important lessons learned from others mistakes.

[@gerardjones7881]

volvo procedure is always disconnect battery neg to work on electricals to reconnect after repairs you do a computer system soft boot up, first put ign key in pos II. Then connect the battery, this ensures you are not in the drivers seat when the system powers up.

[@ricktait3558]

Tip for straightening pins: use a mechanical pencil. Slide it over the pin and bend into place. You’re less likely to break a pin with it supported in the barrel of the pencil.

[@kennethking2301]

I had never thought of that. Sounds like a good tip. Thanks.

[@jorgemat8080]

Great tip. 👍

[@mikefoehr235]

What size? 0.5 mm or 0.7mm

[@mikefoehr235]

@@jorgemat8080 So pins aren't a standard size. Weird. How is that cost efficient if pin sizes vary. Using one size would seem more practical. Sort of like the metric system.

[@mikefoehr235]

@@jorgemat8080 the best kind of fish 🐟 to catch are human. Nothing like having them take it hook, line and sinker. Lmao

[@baxrok2.]

Seriously mangled pins! Super satisfying to straighten them out and plug it in. Good diag Ivan. Thanks!

[@crabmansteve6844]

You can tell you genuinely enjoy your work because your ability to always stay more curious than frustrated. I'm a telecomm guy and that's how I feel at work too. The bigger the problem the greater the satisfaction when you get it fixed.

[@HotRod-wv4vm]

Glad the airbag didn’t deploy while you were working on the car

[@KarateSensei71]

I have had to replace airbag modules in a flood car where the under driver's seat module completely disintegrated from corrosion, the harness connector was destroyed, and I had to solder in new harness connectors and new modules from a donor car. Even though I had the service manual, and reviewed the procedure 20 times, I was more nervous than a long-tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs doing that repair. Za Zdarovje!

[@sprograt]

Thanks Ivan for keeping me occupied over the Christmas holidays your videos are second to none.

[@mikeluscher159]

When you powered up the car with the module unlevel/unbolted I broke out in a sweat Some manufacturers put the rollover sensor in the module, it can be a trigger for some very expensive 🫰 airbags I remember many years back, Danner got burned on an MKZ setting off the side curtains

[@dans_Learning_Curve]

Yep, that came to my mind also! One thing about Ivan, he comes from an electrical background.

[@philh9238]

Happened to Scannerdanner. He blew off every airbag in the car

[@dans_Learning_Curve]

@@philh9238 yep, if you're gonna mess up, go all the way! @scannerdanner

[@brianmason8400]

I've done the same thing. Cust car w airbag light on, some jacksquat had tapped into the main power wire to the power some aftermarket BS, I just barely touched the plug on the module and blew both sides curtain airbags, windshield to back glass! Sounds like a shotgun going off next to your ear.....

[@tbelding]

@@brianmason8400 - Considering that an airbag is simply a bomb placed as close to your face as possible, sounding like a shotgun by the ear makes sense.

[@jdtractorman7445]

It's always fun working on something that someone has already tried to repair. As the saying goes, it's like a box of chocolates.

[@jeremyah78]

No disrespect here at all… I love Ivan and have learned way more here than I could ever dream of reciprocating. I feel however that people watching this could get the wrong idea about air bag safety. Air bags deployed unexpectedly while working beside them can kill you, never mind the expense involved even in cases where you’re lucky. Canadian techs are trained to treat air bag systems with kids gloves. We are warned of things like gyro sensors in modules (deployment can occur from a module being turned upside down), we are warned not only about not working with power on, but to work with fuses out and capacitors discharged, and manufacturer air bag de-energizing procedures in mind in general. We are also warned of the influence of static electricity, especially as it pertains to the possibility of accidental deployment should it influence the airbag circuit itself. Just some thoughts to share mostly for the viewers sake. I saw some things in this video that are counter industry recommendations. I also saw Ivan make careful considerate steps. But I’m not sure every viewer would watch and understand the safety risks of air bags in general, but also of some of the testing methods show.

[@jyao5409]

Airbag safety can't be understated. Thanks for your comments. Also what happened to the module when the pins got pushed in and later pulled out?

[@dendkmac]

It's 4AM here could not sleep. watching your pin fix on the module, hopefully i can get shuteye today lol...Enjoy the diags...loved the Maserati...

[@TheFrenchPug]

Same here. In So Cal.

[@brucenolen7837]

Was a avionics tech. back in the day. Corporate aircraft have multiple hundreds of connectors. We ran across bent pins a lot -- they would get bent during maintenance at bulkhead fittings, rack fittings, instruments ,landing gear etc... Guys would get in a hurry and not properly line up the connectors before engaging locks. We had great luck using the mating female socket to straighten the male pin. Great Job.

[@tomlewis3658]

Nice fix. It reminded me of back in the 90's, when computer chips were larger, I had to straighten bent pins a few times. Since then, I have read a good tip - also use a credit card to check how straight the bent pins are compared to their neighbors, while you are straightening them. And at 15:30, during the outro, I like the pause "Euro ... stuff". I'll bet that "stuff" was almost "trash".

[@brianmason8400]

@tomlewis3658.... isn't it usually. I know in my 30ish years wrenching, "trash" always followed Euro....lolol .. especially when all the plastic crap is breaking!

[@CharlesReiche]

I have a pair of long thin needle nose pliers that I hand carved a notch lengthwise in each jaw for grabbing pins and bending them straight, and pulling where needed.

[@brucehobbs1734]

Thanks,for the entertainment over the holidays. Great jobs!

[@skiplazauski1497]

I've done pin straightening before on electronic gear and I found that a small tube of hard plastic works great for this type of repair. If you can't find a tube drill out a plastic rod of the correct diameter. Humans are the number one tool makers on the planet.

[@brianmason8400]

Do ya' think? Lololol.... don't know who else besides humans would be making them 😁😁😁😁

[@skiplazauski1497]

@@brianmason8400 Chimpanzees make a rod out of stiff grass or a large twig and use it to collect termites out of termite hive entrance holes. There should be a videos on KZbin about this.

[@brianmason8400]

@@skiplazauski1497 ok, fair enough, respect for that.....but I was talking more of stuff made in factories..😊

[@RobertHancock1]

They do ground some of those airbag modules to the body so that they won't power up when not bolted into place. Some of them will detect a rollover and deploy the airbags if you start moving them around with the power on. Ask Scanner Danner how he found out about that one lol.

[@GreyRockOne]

Wow, as long as there are HACKERS out there, be it body shops or whatever, you'll have steady employment to a ripe old age! Thanks Ivan and Happy New Year!

[@Frank-pv1hp]

Should have called Paul Danner in for the assist. I hear he's a restraint system expert! 🤣

[@fieldsofomagh]

I know who'll be singing "Auld Lang Syne" this new year minus srs codes and smooth driving 🚗. Job well done !!

[@wimphilipsen2651]

Ivan, you really should put that airbag system to the test! A tree or a or something else steady is good enough.

[@carmo9693]

Ivan love your diag procedures spot on. Now from a dealer perspective that gets a new module every time no questions. Why, the liability is the killer. heaven forbid that car gets into an accident and the air bags do not deploy it will be a pissing match. Well you know how stupid things can get, I hope the car never has a frontal accident to test the waters. Just to tell you how crazy it was if a pin under the seat for the air bag spread or was damaged in the beginning a body harness would be done, after a while they made connectors available to replace.

[@davyarthurs]

Don’t ground that airbag module and turn it upside down with the ignition on, as all the airbags will go off. Safety feature requiring the case ground.

[@mikebaz7843]

Lucky the plastic tab wasn't necessary to break a circuit bridge, I've come across connectors on smart car airbags where two pins are internally bridged when the male plastic tab part of the connector disengages - think it was on a smart fortwo. I shaved down a zip tie so I could carry out circuit tests for a repairable flood vehicle

[@tylerwilliams3868]

great diag! i love the use of the scope to diag the airbag circuits! this is the kind of stuff they should be teaching in schools!

[@Hybriddiag]

Finally ivan came back to his speciality...euro 🚗..😄.great work and thing about safety concern is best notion from a tech.cheers

[@chrissmith7655]

Hi Ivan , you make it look so easy, but a lot of experience is the reason I think. Many thanks from UK.

[@sixtyfiveford]

Nice fix

[@rick5515]

That was an interesting one. Lesson of the day, never trust the previous work. Which is what I get when you get a job from someone else's mess. I was never a book guy. Repetition is how I usually learn. So again, please keep them coming. In the short time I have been watching, you have taught me so much. Thanks, and Happy New Year. Be safe if you're going out for it. A lot of nuts on the road New Year's Eve.

[@tbelding]

When I take my car to a mechanic, when it might be near work that I've done, I make sure I give a detailed list of what I've done to the mechanic - and then I leave them alone. Never had a complaint.

[@jamesg9936]

All this reminds me of is an IDE connector and bending a pin because some cables did not have the notch on them and you never looked for the blocked off pin hole!

[@tbelding]

I've had to modify connectors and cables, and just recently I had to cut the side off of one because I had to use an overly large ATX power connector (luckily the IDE channel wasn't needed).

[@pawelszatynski]

Good Job! One problem , You should never connect module without ground on the case ,this could couse a disaster.

[@mikechiodetti4482]

Back before scopes, I'd make the air bag system do the diagnostics for me using a scan tool and disconnecting components, running a code check and go from there. Then came air bag plug in simulators for the Fords and life was better until an intermittent SRS System problem on a GM 3500 Van happened after an accident and parts replacement, except for one part. FINALLY, using the Tech 2, I watched the live data with the driver's air bag disconnected and using jumper a wire at the 2 pins for the inflator at the steering wheel. The problem was corrosion or a bad wire compression in one of the pins. The driver's side airbag did not blow or inflate during the accident. The passenger side did inflate. I ordered and replaced the clockspring for the driver's side. Testing and live data watching after clockspring installation had shown no more intermittent problem, driving the vehicle or turning the driver's steering wheel left to right and right to left. How long that terminal problem had been there is unknown. That particular system would send out a 5 Volt test voltage at startup and as a monitoring voltage during vehicle operation. Not enough voltage to inflate the airbags, but enough to show continuity. Maybe just not enough to show the intermittent. Very good fix Ivan!

[@tbelding]

My legs are short enough that I sit very near the steering wheel on just about any car. I consider air bags to be anti-safety devices. 1) they remove your hands from the wheel when you might need full control. 2) They explode, and smash you in the face/head. 3) You're not allowed to disable them, and you're also not allowed to install five point harnesses - which are arguably far safer than three point.

[@keltecshooter]

Wow , cool, always interesting content. I never had the opportunity to scope a crash sensor on any car, You have the best auto diag channel out there. Happy New Year!!

[@geek49203]

I kept yelling, "BROWN IS GROUND ON A VW!" during this video. I owned an 89 Golf and a 98 Jetta, and ran both to 250k miles. Trust me, one learned electrical troubleshooting w/ those cars.

[@richmc8209]

If it comes back check the electric fuel module, its on top of the in tank fuel pump. You can see it when you lift the rear seat base. Common problem with them failing.

[@willemstreutgers1154]

Instead of tweezers i often use a piece of brakeline and push them over the pins then it's easy to straighten them.

[@Schnippen_Schnappen1]

Careful leaving those airbag modules laying sideways or upside down with battery connected. One time someone left one upside down turned ignition on and BAM! All airbags deployed i guess the computer though it was a rollover

[@drewv1785]

Good job,Ivan! That airbag module was really scary. It was a regular botched Bosch!

[@additudeobx]

Love the channel. As always, PHAD integrity. Thanks Ivan.

[@smh988]

Nice work on the straightening. That's some oddly designed connector; seems just begging for some heavy ham handedness damage. There's a couple types of tool for straightening, of course. I think any straight length of tube that has a hollow , narrow ID (close to snug fit) would allow precise straightening as you go with less chance of breakage. I once used a small gauge wire wrap tool that saved the day.

[@kellyx57]

A mechanical pencil with no lead in it works good too.

[@davidgrisco1939]

I didn't expect to read about wire wrap tools on Ivan's page... you might be a hi-rel / military equip personnel 👍

[@ferrumignis]

@@kellyx57 Would have to be one of the big mechanical pencils for those pins, most mechanical pencil leads are only 0.5 or 0.7mm.

[@bigb7157]

The connection isn’t difficult if you take 5 minutes and unbolt the module first.

[@markanderson2904]

Ah, wire wrapping. Brings back memories.

[@JOHNSUE28]

Ivan, You about gave me a heart attack when you said "Moment of truth". With that SDM not bolted down. Roll-over sensors go Boom! That would have been bad.

[@adotintheshark4848]

Out of all the cars I've owned, I only bought one at auction. This was about 14 years ago and I still get a nervous twitch remembering that car- a BMW that had just about everything go wrong or about to go wrong. Never again. I wish my car's problems had only been the airbags.

[@DavidPruitt]

"auction car" words to strike fear in the heart of any buyer or tech

[@craiggoodwin9704]

Ivan, great job. I'd say your patience is a great virtue when working around those air bags. This one proves you need a consistant structured diagnostic process. Thanks for Sharing!

[@x01e]

Its always a great start when you wake up and Ivan posts a new video..

[@bearg4019]

Never know that air bag connection fix this also....give me the days when you car was a car.and your ECM doesn't have a bad..day..

[@williamwhite9767]

Ivan, you save your customers SO much money! I wish you were close to my residence!

[@christopherdwayne1110]

Thanks Ivan , think you my have dodged a bullet on that one , if you had turned the key on with the model not being earthed it may have deployed the air bag .

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Actually there's no way that could happen since there would be no current through the ignitors without a ground 😉

[@christopherdwayne1110]

Yep your so Wright , might think a bit more before I put pen to paper next time Dwayne NZ.

[@DerGolf2000]

If the engine light comes back. The ambient temp was way off, right? On these VW cars there is the engine wiring harness routed in a sharp bend around the starter inside a plastik cable tube. Here also gets sand inside and is chafing through the wiring isolation. Been there done that on my Passat.

[@somerandomguy3868]

I think the real surprise is the module was accessable in the first place

[@htownblue11]

Hern he caught himself and said “maybe the module needs to be grounded to car”…..Nicely done, versus just assuming the connector repair failed. And yet again a NPR repair……

[@andrewmarkland9411]

Great diag Ivan. For straightening small pins, my weapon of choice is a propelling pencil, else a small piece of metal tube.

[@bills6946]

Every time you plugged a sensor in or out, I thought the air bags were going to deploy. I don’t touch yellow plugs.

[@patriot2164]

Euro STUFF ........ Good Catch Ivan !

[@michaelpaskorz8577]

Ivan thank you for passing on your ability on how to go about repairs . I watch all your videos your the best on you tube . i

[@jluna1279]

Stay safe thanks for the great content.

[@jerryking2418]

You are a freaking genius. Thanks for sharing.

[@robertwillingham8037]

Turn the module over with the key on and blow ALLLLLL of the airbags!!

[@jackiemay9471]

did you see mr scanner danner doing a air bag and he messed around with earths then BAAANNNNNG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! euru t stuff

[@robertmobileman8304]

GREAT JOB IVAN

[@tommussington8330]

Can I suggest you getting some large hypodermic needles that's what I use to straighten out bent pins. Slip needle over the pin and finesse pin back in position fairly easy.

[@TheFrenchPug]

So just the syringe without the needle correct?

[@tommussington8330]

@@TheFrenchPug no the needle it self we used large bore needles to dispense adhesive they were blunt too I've ground off sharp ones to dull them too.

[@bryanderksen4448]

Great idea! They are available inexpensively at farm supply stores in various large sizes for livestock innoculation

[@brianw8963]

Nice work Ivan. Was just wondering if You had the actual airbag’s disconnected while You were testing? Kind of a scary one for this guy but I’m sure You had it under control.👍👍

[@LesReeves]

He was under the hood testing the sensors & when he was working on the module it was disconnected so he was safe.

[@brianw8963]

@@LesReeves 👍👍

[@mikeaho4143]

Wow that was a great case study. You're really getting into those Euro's now Ivan. ;-) Thanks for sharing and I hope you and your wife have a Happy New Year !

[@kyletuttle9064]

Great diag and repair your honesty is to commended.keep up the great videos

[@GrimmReaper765RS]

I would love to see you try to diagnose and fix a vehicle without a scope.

[@loubakker5000]

Better using some leverage when pulling pins. Less risk of yanking them out.

[@billmalec]

Early 2000 VWs always have the airbag light on. You just ignore it and go on. 2012 though...

[@graemediesel2936]

Auction cars make for some of the best videos. 😀

[@Netherlands031]

Nice fix, but I know I'd be wearing earplugs working on the airbag system, that stuff is loud

[@snidelywhiplash8923]

Very impressive.

[@AP9311]

I don't really like to mess with the airbag stuff as I'm afraid of activating the airbag unintentionally! Look what happened to Paul @scannerdanner lol. He moved some wires, boom it blew! But you know what to do. Great job! Wow, bent pins!! Unreal! At least NPR is involved! Awesome video! 👌

[@brianmason8400]

SD didn't exactly just move some wires. He ADDED A GROUND WIRE so he could communicate with the module with it unbolted NOT KNOWING the rollover sensor was in the module. Normally, the module being bolted down got it's ground through the case being bolted down.

[@1jeffr]

I would have been worried that pluging and un-pluging the sensors, and doing other tests, could potentially fire off the air bags, obviously Ivan knows what he is doing.

[@05c50]

Another good diagnosis and repair Ivan. This video got me thinking, how many diagnosis and repairs have you done that were caused by the previous "repair"? I think the per centage would be somwhere around 50 per cent.

[@wimphilipsen2651]

That is why I stopped to do the repairs myself long time ago. I’m a carburetor and contactpoints and a lucas (prince of darkness) guy.

[@cullenmiller8170]

I was worried you were going to ground the module after you plugged it in and had no ground at the crash sensors. Obviously, you remembered that mistake from Paul. I was surprised with all the key on testing you were doing. I’m definitely skittish after seeing Paul’s video on blowing the curtain airbags.

[@jorgemat8080]

That's what happens when you poke the wrong wire. Paul made an honest mistake when he was testing.

[@Bizija123]

Everything would seem kind of easy after that monstrous Maserati timing chain job right? haha.

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Indeed lol

[@frederick6008]

My Scion passenger air bags are off unless there is sufficient weight on the seat.

[@engeneer_ru5827]

Включать зажигание, при не заземленном корпусе блока airbag, очень опасно!

[@vdivanov]

Vanya likes to live dangerously 🤓

[@engeneer_ru5827]

@@vdivanov Да. В ранних видео, Иван, жаловался на скучную жизнь в Америке... Вот, ищет дополнительные трудности .

[@mrbigvanlife7130]

Well done 👍 almost said Euro Tr@sh there at the end 😊

[@dustcommander100]

Good going!

[@mikesvirtualgarage9917]

Good ol German iron, your favorite :) Shame on whoever put that module back in. If it wasnt the owner I'd be pretty ticked. As usual excellent diag! HNY!

[@Arnthorg]

VW with electrical problems???

[@js12278]

The entire time I’m waiting for Bag deployment😁

[@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics]

Sorry to disappoint 😅

[@js12278]

@@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics in this case I’m satisfied there was no deployment 😂

[@billneu9520]

Another great video Happy New Year to you and your family Bill N LI NY

[@TeemarkConvair]

what this tells me is that who ever did the job either doesn't understand, or doesn't care that airbags are injury reducing, life saving devices. Can you imagine the lawsuits were this discovered after a fatal?

[@justsumguy2u]

EOS should stand for End Of Service, because they're horribly unreliable

[@petero2693]

My 2003rolla went on recall 3 times at toyota.. they used to wash car.

[@zx8401ztv]

I'm so surprised that the airbag module pins didn't break. ' Magic fingers Ivan' is your new name lol.

[@RattyFlyer]

Dang that plug being messed up what a bummer.

[@rkan2]

If only there was daily eurotrash from Ivan! (being from Europe)

[@n124lp]

Good job on the diag. I don't think I would want the emotional or legal liability of doing that repair on an airbag module. Who knows what the solder connections for those pins look like inside the module. If someone got seriously injured or killed in an accident where the airbags didn't deploy when they should have, I would feel terrible. I would probably have just recommended replacing the airbag module and then given the car back to the customer if they didn't want me to do that.

[@ehsnils]

The kind of issues you see on vehicles caused by bent or corroded pins is sometimes baffling.

[@vpimike2646]

Another great video Ivan. You sure are catching a bit of flak over the bending of pins and safety with airbag deployment. After watching your Maserati series, one sure needs to measure his words before criticizing "the professor". 😂

[@jhonditch4269]

my sister had an EOS cool little car

[@brianbloom8771]

Grab some medical grade smooth jaw hemostats next time you get a chance, they're great for working on electronics (and bent pins).

[@OldAdventureBikes]

I hate being the safety guy, but make sure you tell people to have the battery disconnected before you ever remove a air bag module. If you don't believe me ask scanner danner.

[@abdul-kabiralegbe5660]

What surprised me more was the fact that using a testlight on the crash sensor wires didn't cause an airbag deployment. Maybe I'm just scared about nothing since nothing of the sort happened here.

[@vg3430]

Agreed…also, plugging in a crash sensor with the key turned on (system powered up)…that’s a bold move.

[@jorgemat8080]

The car is stopped there are safety switches ( seat weight sensors, gear selector, speedometer ) that turn the airbag off and turn them back on at 15 mph so there is no danger in doing that kind of diagnostics and if you know what you are doing with the right information there's no danger. I think people panic because they never worked on those systems and hear bad things.

[@callumcurtis15]

@@vg3430 I think luckily he was saved by the fact that the stored error data disables that sensor's information possibly.

[@delsdiagnostics7716]

Has nothing to do with the power being hooked up. He turned it upside down. Most OEs are using the airbag module as a gyro, if the car goes upside down it blows all the bags. Or, if you have the module in your hand and plugged in, flip it upside down and boom. Most engineers use case grounding like this car to prevent that.

[@sewing1243]

Long ago, what we would do in Uncle Sam's Canoe Club (AKA: US Navy) if a connector had bent pins was: 1) determine if the pin is even used (if not, break it off and get rid of it) 2) Carefully straighten the bent pin(s) 3) If the bent pin breaks off when attempting to straighten it the options were: a) replace the connector/piece of gear b) depending on the type of connector it was possible to either replace the pin or on some connectors drill the center of the broken pin and then solder a replacement pin into the hole that had been drilled.

[@LesReeves]

Also forgot to say apprentices in the computer industry have to be watched with an eagle eye.(don't know how many pins I straightened in my shop.)

[@carhacks3590]

Great Diag IVan Just Wanna know what the customer said about the service now Warning? 😅