PINTER'S THE BIRTHDAY PARTY Part 2 of 4

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britteach

britteach

12 жыл бұрын

BBC production of one of Harold Pinter's most popular dramas.
Stanley's birthday party turns into a nightmare when strangers McCann and Goldberg arrive.
I am posting this production for educational purposes and not for profit.

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@christopherdandeker6122
@christopherdandeker6122 7 жыл бұрын
Pinter shows here what a classy actor he was
@thomassimmons1950
@thomassimmons1950 7 жыл бұрын
The whole cast is super; and Joan Plowright is funny and adorable. Pinter makes language live.
@ajs41
@ajs41 6 жыл бұрын
She's good but I think Dandy Nichols was better at the part.
@mrhat50
@mrhat50 Жыл бұрын
"Right! you had your rest now get out!!!!!!" 😆
@rockystandingart5046
@rockystandingart5046 Жыл бұрын
🤣
@ahmedsredy2429
@ahmedsredy2429 Жыл бұрын
Pinter's language is so simple to understand for any foreigner learning English ,but the tricky part is the emotions in which this language is packed and what makes HP's plays appealing to any public despite the strangeness of the characters who are usually so few in all his plays so that anyone can feel the intimacy of the personalities as they dissect each others'reactions and feelings.l personally respect Harold Pinter as a playwright but especially as as an activist who was against Apartheid and Zionism in spite of him being Jewish and l believe he deserved more than a Nobel prize.
@clumsydad7158
@clumsydad7158 Жыл бұрын
There's a lot under the surface, as in any good play, and language is used for senseless repetition, vacuousness, absurdity, attacking, or raw confusion.
@ajs41
@ajs41 Жыл бұрын
@@clumsydad7158 For me, the most menacing thing about this play is the way that Meg completely fails to see or realise what's going on right under her nose, despite being basically a good person herself. I find that really chilling, because it's an example of how all sorts of bad things can take place in the presence of good people without them necessarily noticing. But Meg isn't completely innocent, because one of the reasons she doesn't notice what's going on is because of her own self-centredness and parochialism.
@manfromnocky
@manfromnocky 4 ай бұрын
Well said about Pinter Sir.
@avivastudios2311
@avivastudios2311 2 ай бұрын
Why do you respect anti-zionism?
@perpieta
@perpieta 10 жыл бұрын
Fricking amazing. Thank you for uploading!!!!
@TheJonnyzeus
@TheJonnyzeus 10 жыл бұрын
I think you can safely assume that Pinter, as a Hackney born Jew, could do the accent! As a Londoner it sounds spot on.
@juliangarner56
@juliangarner56 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@mrminer071166
@mrminer071166 3 жыл бұрын
Pinter's got hair like a yarmulke-salesman. That shabby-genteel tone: "But today it's different." And slight nasality. So charming, Harold.
@tweegeTX3
@tweegeTX3 3 жыл бұрын
No offence but you’ve basically said someone sounds like someone that they are
@TheJonnyzeus
@TheJonnyzeus 3 жыл бұрын
@@tweegeTX3 No offence taken. My own comment was in response to someone who challenged the accuracy of Pinter's portrayal.
@Johnconno
@Johnconno 3 жыл бұрын
Pinter got as far away from Hackney as soon as he could, and never went back. Who could blame him, Eh? Not me!
@alanballsshinpad3069
@alanballsshinpad3069 5 жыл бұрын
Playwrighting's gain was acting's loss what an electric actor he was....Pinter's language is mesmerising and its hard to explain quite why. incredible
@samuelmarlow1969
@samuelmarlow1969 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. Pinter really weaves the menace and sense of humour throughout the play and keep you wondering what’s going to happen next. The interrogation. scene is particularly brilliant and the tactics of Goldberg and Mecann keep you on your toes! Pinters best play I think.
@clumsydad7158
@clumsydad7158 Жыл бұрын
@@samuelmarlow1969 yes, i need to read the dialogue from the two rapid attacking scenes - too much going on there to fully ingest and assess
@DuckboyJiden
@DuckboyJiden 9 ай бұрын
You can really sense Kafka's The Trial in this. Absolutely genius play.
@djbrucelee90
@djbrucelee90 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much for posting this video, I've found the reproduction of 'the birthday party' to be haunting, yet rather funny.
@svprememe
@svprememe 10 жыл бұрын
Goldberg's accent is meant to be indeterminable, that's the whole point of his character
@justininfrance
@justininfrance 3 жыл бұрын
duncanidaho It's very specific surely, north London jewish? And as a north London jewish man, Pinter got it bang on.
@mrminer071166
@mrminer071166 2 жыл бұрын
@@justininfrance Do you find the Irishman indeterminable, or interminable?
@LANCSKID
@LANCSKID Жыл бұрын
Gefilte fish … not a South African delicacy …
@sanjaysinghchampawat117
@sanjaysinghchampawat117 2 жыл бұрын
Act 2 begins from 8:25 👍
@xodixzote9260
@xodixzote9260 Жыл бұрын
Its better than I had expected.
@oliverbruce5324
@oliverbruce5324 8 жыл бұрын
This is undoubtedly the best production of anything ever!
@LANCSKID
@LANCSKID Жыл бұрын
“… and that’s a Black and Tan fact.”
@clumsydad7158
@clumsydad7158 Жыл бұрын
@@LANCSKID that line alone is loaded with an essay's worth of connotations
@LANCSKID
@LANCSKID Жыл бұрын
@@clumsydad7158 What about the Blessed Oliver Plunkett?
@Weepingleader
@Weepingleader 4 ай бұрын
at 28:25, the "You betrayed our land." sound like Liam Neeson lol
@estebank4592
@estebank4592 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing
@christophersloman1524
@christophersloman1524 4 жыл бұрын
We had this in 1987. And now we have The Night Manager
@mrminer071166
@mrminer071166 3 жыл бұрын
Definite feel of Doug and Dimmesdale Piranha in full menaces operation.
@lawsonj39
@lawsonj39 3 жыл бұрын
"I'd give a hand to a couple of stray dogs."
@samuelmarlow1969
@samuelmarlow1969 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, Pinters character comes out with some outrageous boasts, so funny.
@clumsydad7158
@clumsydad7158 Жыл бұрын
That one was noticeable ... in the good old days, when all was well and perfect with the world! That kind of nonsensical nostalgia crap never goes out of style, we're living with the doomed implications and lack of vision of it once again! ... sad lies
@mrminer071166
@mrminer071166 3 жыл бұрын
Would have liked to see more glances between Goldberg and McCann when verifiying that there is one tenant, male, named Stanley Webber.
@lastunctives2095
@lastunctives2095 6 жыл бұрын
I often talk in Pinteresque
@mrminer071166
@mrminer071166 3 жыл бұрын
Carry a fruit-knife about with you? For . . . safety?
@LANCSKID
@LANCSKID Жыл бұрын
I’m more ‘Kafkaesque’ and I’ve had good coffee and Gitanes down at the Imperial Cafe in Prague. Will Self invited me over for a good tongue twisting chortle … highly amusing, running counterpoint to my melancholy.
@clumsydad7158
@clumsydad7158 Жыл бұрын
then turn of the century it was 'mamet speak'
@HeeeeeearMeNow
@HeeeeeearMeNow 3 жыл бұрын
Masters of menace
@timcharles5476
@timcharles5476 5 ай бұрын
Do you know the year of this production? I'm guessing mid/late 80s.
@Twisted_Owl
@Twisted_Owl 11 жыл бұрын
i performed this for my gcse's and I thought I would see how to pros perform it
@beaubeale4303
@beaubeale4303 4 жыл бұрын
jack as you probably won’t get this but I’m doing the same performance for my drama gcse 6 years later😁
@harshlight7
@harshlight7 11 жыл бұрын
Goldberg has a South African accent. Quite subtle, but when he gets going it's undeniable. Pinter was showing his cards.
@manfromnocky
@manfromnocky 4 ай бұрын
No, it's North London Jewish accent. But there are similarities.
@seanlewis5663
@seanlewis5663 6 жыл бұрын
Anyone know the year this was performed?
@WestVillageCrank
@WestVillageCrank 6 жыл бұрын
1987 www.imdb.com/title/tt0090732/
@seanlewis5663
@seanlewis5663 6 жыл бұрын
WestVillageCrank thanks
@WestVillageCrank
@WestVillageCrank 6 жыл бұрын
My pleasure.
@johncooke1095
@johncooke1095 Жыл бұрын
1968.
@MrJupiterLo
@MrJupiterLo 11 жыл бұрын
he really doesn't
@BelatedCommiseration
@BelatedCommiseration 10 жыл бұрын
I was wondering about that accent myself...it could be South African...but then there is a type of Golders Green Jewish dialect which I have always thought sounds very similar to a South African one...and Pinter might be doing that...
@ajs41
@ajs41 6 жыл бұрын
No I think he's definitely doing a South African accent to lend an extra menace to the character.
@plasticweapon
@plasticweapon 3 жыл бұрын
@@ajs41 except goldberg's whole schtick is being jewish (he won't stop referencing it). south african is "extra menacing..."?
@ICT17
@ICT17 Жыл бұрын
It's a London Jewish accent. Sydney Tafler in William Friedkin's film of the play has exactly the same accent and, like Pinter, was London Jewish, in fact they were both from Hackney.
@mrminer071166
@mrminer071166 3 жыл бұрын
THEY MIGHT BE FORCED TO DEFECATE HIM.
@clumsydad7158
@clumsydad7158 Жыл бұрын
did they say that? ... need to look at that whole duo diatribe !!
@mrminer071166
@mrminer071166 Жыл бұрын
@@clumsydad7158 Cyril Cusack gives a distinctive reading of that line in the LP of Joyce's Finnegan's Wake.
@billfarnsworth7536
@billfarnsworth7536 2 жыл бұрын
haysoos
@reclaimerReclaimer
@reclaimerReclaimer 9 жыл бұрын
Oops, part 2 is widescreen... ;)
@danielspain7231
@danielspain7231 3 ай бұрын
Bang goes the format. Why
@Johnconno
@Johnconno 4 жыл бұрын
Good looking woman...
@moist5912
@moist5912 Жыл бұрын
Everyone ignore, personal use 19:19
@tsubarashiii6251
@tsubarashiii6251 4 ай бұрын
10:07
@edmund184
@edmund184 5 жыл бұрын
I'm from Maidenhead. It might have been a charming town then but it sure ain't now. You're lucky if you can find an Englishman.
@lawsonj39
@lawsonj39 3 жыл бұрын
I've been in many charming towns that didn't have a single Englishman.
@douglasmilton2805
@douglasmilton2805 3 жыл бұрын
@John Lawson That was wicked 😆
@mandobrownie
@mandobrownie 3 жыл бұрын
I reckon any man who lives in some enduring sense in England is an Englishman, no?
@kathyflorcruz552
@kathyflorcruz552 2 ай бұрын
​@@mandobrownieAbsolutely NOT the unassimilated.
@arungraves-kochhar7154
@arungraves-kochhar7154 3 жыл бұрын
kacper smells
@paulrosa6173
@paulrosa6173 5 жыл бұрын
Has something changed in human nature in the past 30 years? I can't get over the habitual bossiness of many of Pinter's characters. It's not just in this play either. Is it due to the fact that Pinter tends to write about urban people? Or is it fair to say that Pinter doesn't write about real human beings?
@bigbangzebraman351
@bigbangzebraman351 3 жыл бұрын
... You'd have to be insane to call these beings human.
@clumsydad7158
@clumsydad7158 Жыл бұрын
Technology changes but people don't. In earnest, we expect very little from ourselves yet as social creatures. So many bad habits and general ignorance in the way we relate to each other, but it's integrated with our instinctual need to frequently dominate and manipulate towards our own myopic ends.
@paulrosa6173
@paulrosa6173 Жыл бұрын
@@clumsydad7158 - I can't believe it was four years already since I saw this. Are you sure technology doesn't change us somewhat too?
@emilycarter3246
@emilycarter3246 4 ай бұрын
Habitual bossiness? A quality of Empire in decline.
@paulrosa6173
@paulrosa6173 4 ай бұрын
@@emilycarter3246 - You hit it on the head! That comment was four ago already? Ouch.
@monkey97x
@monkey97x 10 жыл бұрын
lol why does Goldberg have a South African accent???
@ajs41
@ajs41 6 жыл бұрын
It's meant to be menacing. White South Africans were regarded as menacing at the time.
@juliangarner56
@juliangarner56 4 жыл бұрын
It’s not a South African accent. It’s East End Jewish, Yiddish inflected. But Goldberg is trying to pass as posh, so the accent slips. I suggest it is mostly this sense of concealment makes it menacing.
@LANCSKID
@LANCSKID Жыл бұрын
Pinter admitted to the ‘Once, there was an Englishman, Irishman and a Jew. And they …’
@ICT17
@ICT17 Жыл бұрын
Watch William Friedkin's film of the play, Sydney Tafler as Goldberg has the same accent, it's a very specific London Jewish accent - Pinter and Tafler were both Jewish and both from Hackney. By the way Tafler's performance is even better than Pinter's.
@kathyflorcruz552
@kathyflorcruz552 2 ай бұрын
​@@ajs41Wow. What a psyop that was. Look what's developed since then due to that.
@tweegeTX3
@tweegeTX3 3 жыл бұрын
Bloke playing Stanley was the weak link in terms of acting. From the comments it seems that was Pinter himself. Stick by my comment
@TYAmentor
@TYAmentor 3 жыл бұрын
The whole cast is excellent, including Stanley.
@manfromnocky
@manfromnocky 3 жыл бұрын
Pinter plays Goldberg....of course.
@tweegeTX3
@tweegeTX3 3 жыл бұрын
@@manfromnocky I stand corrected
@rosario508
@rosario508 3 жыл бұрын
I think he’s outstanding. What exactly is your issue?
@LANCSKID
@LANCSKID Жыл бұрын
Kenneth Cranham is one of our finest and most versatile actors.
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