Pioneer Mini Ductless Split Review 2022 | Long Term Mini Split Review

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2022 Update: We've now had the pioneer mini ductless split through several summers and winters, and it's still working great! Just make sure you clean the filters on your minisplit on a regular basis! We usually just vacuum them out!
The Pioneer Mini Ductless Split is an enticing option for anyone looking to add heating and cooling at a fraction of the cost of traditional central A/C. But with brands like Mitsubishi and Fujitsu leading the way, are they worth 3x the cost of brands like Pioneer?
In this video I give a full long term review of the Pioneer Mini Ductless Split system. The good and the bad!
At this point I fully believe that the Pioneer Mini Ductless Split is the best value for money option on the market. It works just as well as more expensive units like Mitsubishi or Fujitsu, but at a fraction of the cost. The only issue with this ductless mini split, is you'll most likely have to install it yourself, as most HVAC companies don't want to install it if you didn't buy it from them, and of course they want to sell you the more expensive mini ductless split brands like Mitsubishi and Fujitsu.
If you're in need of a ductless minisplit, I would highly recommend the Pioneer Miniductless split!
#pioneer #minisplit #review

[@DavidBeede]

I just got off the phone with Pioneer and was assured that the 5 yr. warranty was for DIY as well. The confusion comes from them asking for licensed installer info that must only be filled in by the installer. However, it can be left blank for DIYers and the full warranty still applies! Great news! (I deleted my post to the contrary and apologize for misinformation.)

[@AnthonyOnLife]

Thank you for the additional info!

[@TrickyBoa]

Thanks I was wondering this myself.

[@CubanMofo]

I guarantee you the warranty is not covered for some diy guy that doesn't know what they're doing.

[@DavidBeede]

@@CubanMofo It seems you're wrong there. They knew I did the install. I called regarding a leak on the interior unit coil. They did request I document the leak with a phone video of a Licensed HVAC person using a sniffer to show where the leak was. They sent a replacement of the whole inside unit to me in 5 days. That's impressive response and response time. Keep in mind they only cover parts, and even if I use my own labor, they don't cover the refrigerant loss their faulty part caused, you need a pro to vac it and replace with new refrigerant. Still out a few hundred bucks.

[@linejumper9741]

I am a Hvac contractor of 34 yrs . I've installed hundreds of Pioneer systems . If properly installed it will run 10-12 yrs with no probs .

[@tammybarnes421]

THANKS FOR THE FEEDBACK I WAS INTERESTED IN BUYING ONE YOUR VIDEO WAS EDUCATIONAL LEARNING EXPERIENCE ALSO THANK YOU TO THE MAN WHO POSTED THE VIDEO WE LEARN FROM ONE ANOTHER PEACE

[@RonaldMiddleton-yq5sn]

Purchased: August 2023 - still works GREAT!I kzbin.infoUgkxxsUnXhGsSJLim_XnMHyQK0u3XVaW-CGn live in a studio and during the summer it gets scorching hot - really old building with no ac units. I can’t express how EASY it was to install. This unit has been a life savior during the summer and some days during other seasons where it can still be a bit warm at night. In this small place is my friend, a husky, poodle mix and myself. We need AC - lolI don’t use the dehumidifier option - I’m not sure if it will leak in my house, since I did not install the small draining hose that came with it. May look into it late but I don’t worry about much humidity in the apartment. I don’t understand why the negative reviews since all things mentioned, I personally did not find issues with. Definitely worth it!

[@toomuchsugar3960]

We installed these units in our home in Arizona. They do a fantastic job, they're very quite and reduced our electric bill by around 50%. Glad to hear yours has held up well with time, hoping to see similar results. Cheers.

[@lmiller1528]

I have been underwhelmed by a Mitsubishi 12,000 btu floor mount. I've had it since 2018. It's output feels like a 3000 btu window unit. So I am not convinced Mitsubishi is the gold standard, and am open to other brands. Thanks for this review. Very helpful.

[@kurtbilinski1723]

You may have a slow coolant leak causing it to seem weak - we did. Got that fixed and it was back to "great."

[@Ozzie4Para]

I had four mini splits in my previous house. The first unit was a Carrier mini split that cost me like $2800 installed. Two years later I decided to try my luck with a Pioneer unit which only cost me like $900. We installed the unit ourselves but we did have an HVAC contractor vacuum the line sets in order to activate the ten year warranty with Pioneer. Four years later and we installed two Mr Cool DIY series mini splits as well. They've been working fine but we've only had them for less than two years. I would say the Pioneer has been just as good as the much more expensive Carrier unit but at a much cheaper price. The key is to absolutely make sure you have the line sets vacuumed and properly tested.

[@scotthagan3189]

Ozzie, can you speak on the energy costs of each unit? I assume with each of your upgrades, the efficiency numbers were listed as better. I have learned a lot about SEER, EER, HSPF4 and HSPF5 and maybe most importantly the COP.

[@brandonmurphy4657]

The carrier and pioneer are both the same . Both made by midea

[@howardblasingame7961]

Thank you. I am looking at a Pioneer 9KBTU for southern Missouri.

[@CubanMofo]

The Mr Cool broke down on me a bunch of times. I threw it away and replaced it

[@bexproDE]

Electrical power will remain same, because on 110V the amperage will rise by 2x in compare to 220V but efficiency and electrical power will be the same as soon as the unit is designed to run 110V

[@jasonmilnster4839]

It is true the wattage consumption is equal. What people are not realizing is you are billed on whichever leg is using more amps, not total watts. This is due to the way transformers work. So say on one leg you are pulling 10 amps, and you are pulling zero on the other leg. your bill will reflect 10 amps on both legs. So if you have the choice of pulling half the current one one leg, and half on the other, that is the cheapest. On high draw appliances such as heating and AC ALWAYS GO WITH 220 volt! Transformers have to create equal amps on both legs. this is why we balance loads on commercial buildings, it saves money!

[@generallyhelpfulsoftware646]

If your ceiling isn’t insulated like you say, then that would make a big difference. I’ve a couple Mini-splits in our old house we rent out in Nashua. A single zone Bosch and a 3 zone Mitsubishi and when the gas boiler developed a crack, they were capable of keeping the house warm by themselves in maybe 10°F weather. I think the renters use them as the primary heating source. I like to stand under one of them when I come in from the cold and let the warm air blow over me.

[@AnthonyOnLife]

I'm happy with the Pioneer, but Mitsubishi is definitely the industry standard for a reason. I have no doubt they are probably better than Pioneer, I'm just not sure if they're 2-3x better. We just had the attic insulated, so I'm interested to see how it effects the heating next winter.

[@IRONMANMETALBILLDANKANIS]

Using a 220 versus a 110 is going to give you the same amount of power. Power =Current X Voltage If you have 1200 watts at 120 volts that is 10 amps, if you have 1200 watts at 240 volts, that is 5 amps. Power is the same, current and voltage change.

[@misterb6416]

I'm kind of bummed out. You said that your power bill went up, I'm looking to lower my power bill. I have to run my HVAC unit that cools the entire house, but since I'm the only one here, I just want to cool my bedroom which is about 300 sq ft with high ceilings. I would think that cooling just one room would be much cheaper than the entire home.

[@dizzytt69]

I believe that it went up, as it was an additional, not a replacement. it would go up, then.

[@misterb6416]

@@dizzytt69 Okay, that makes sense. That is pretty good then.

[@laserbeam002]

Thank you for posting. A couple questions...One, other than having an electrician do some wiring is the Pioneer a DIY unit? Did you have ot vacuum the lines and did you have to charge the lines with Freon? I am looking at different mini split units. I know I will have to have an electrician out but wondering if I will need to have a HVAC guy come out as well. Thank you.

[@andreycham4797]

I installed three heads Pioneer few years ago In living room, the running motor makes a lot of noise, in one bedroom, the motor makes noise in stand by mode

[@frankchang8311]

I trust what you said

[@pauleohl]

Why are you wearing a sweatshirt indoors when you have that working Pioneer mini split?

[@AnthonyOnLife]

Filmed this in early March. Still in the 30s that time of year on some days.

[@DavidMosby]

Pretty good review. You need to bone up on your electricity knowledge. The 220v is no more efficient than a 110v. The 110 uses more amps but at less voltage so it is the same as the 220v running fewer amps. The only reason for 220v is that many appliances will not run on 110. If 220v was more efficient, whole houses would be run at that voltage.

[@AnthonyOnLife]

Yep I've been corrected many times in the comments section :-D

[@Michiganbreadboyz_bt8919]

Forgive my ignorance I’m just learning a lot of this but I was under the impression that lower amperage would be more efficient? I’m a grower and have to pay attention to the amps mainly on my equipment but that’s due to amperage limitations usually. Is it that lower amps you can add more equipment it just doesn’t mean it will be Cheaper to run?

[@mamboking21]

Man I find pioneer , senville , cooper & hunter and even Mr cool selling exactly the same units who manufactures these units?

[@AnthonyOnLife]

Are you sure they are exactly the same? I haven't seen any of the other brands in person, but photos of the Mr. Cool look quite a bit different. It is possible that they're all just buying white label units from China or something similar, and then branding with their own logos, but all that really matters is that they are reliable, and that they honor their warranties. But I'll do a little digging and see if I can come up with anything.

[@mamboking21]

@@AnthonyOnLife yeah I actually when down the rabbit hole of looking for and american made mini split but I found out that they are all made by Midea and maybe some by gree , they just rebrand them here What Mr cool did was to just come up with their precharge line set. And that brands that pros install the most are Mitsubishi, Daikin, Fujitsu and I think as well.

[@davsim4116]

I live in Maine and have owned a Pioneer system for over 5 years and love it.. I started with a single zone 1 ton like this one and was so impressed I converted to a 3 zone Pioneer system and used it as a whole house primary system with oil back-up.. In 2018 I moved and installed a 4 zone Pioneer system with Propane back-up in our new house and have had no problems. Our electric bill is higher but heating the house is no where near the cost of running oil or gas. The original 1 ton is still working great (sold it to a friend) and my daughter bought our old house and the 3 zone is working just fine

[@oshitomaha]

Hi, Is the 3 zone a 1 ton or 2 ton type of unit?

[@davsim4116]

@@oshitomaha The system is rated at 27000 BTUs cooling and 28000 BTUs heating, I ran Three 9000 BTU zones

[@andystieg6339]

I also started with a pioneer 1 ton a few years ago for my attached small home office. I loved it so much I bought a 3 zone 3 ton and heat my whole house with it easily. That's incredible for northern michigan. I do oversize a bit as my house is 40-50 years old. I use the wifi dongles and can control everything with my phone, I don't even use the remotes. It's cheaper than propane, even cheaper the buying firewood. Not cheaper than cutting my own firewood:-) I burn a little wood in the frigid temps

[@vickeymendonca]

I've watched 9 previous videos looking for the answer to just ONE question... THANK YOU SO MUCH for answering it! When I look at these split mini systems all I can do is think of staying in a hotel & the amount of noise they produce. I do appreciate all of the info you've provided... especially the experience of both hot & cold usage. Most importantly though, thank you for answering the noise question! 😀

[@69jeeper]

Sweet Video, I have installed 3 of the Pioneer units on my home, all 120V models. The oldest was installed in Summer 2017 - Now 2024 for the master bedroom (approx. 800ft2) and it has been running 24/7 none stop 69 degree's summer/Winter in NorCal cool/heat and only thing I had to do is clean the filter on the indoor unit and clean the fins on the outdoor unit. The inverter++ technology, they are quiet and you don't even notice they are on, especially when sleeping and my outside unit is right outside my bedroom window.

[@arvietinio8967]

Great to see your comment. Looking and planning to install 3 pioneer units 110v as well for 3 bedrooms by next month

[@ja9915]

Do your condenser fans run all the time or for long periods of time ? I have the Diamante Ultra. In AUTO mode all is well, but in other modes, condenser fan keeps running.

[@ranckie5055]

Just a minor correction on your statement that the lower voltage uses more power. Power, or wattage, which is how we buy electricity, is a product of voltage times current as per Ohms Law. Disregarding the power factor which is very minor, using an appliance at 110 volts will draw about twice the current as it would if running it at 220 volts. Either way it still consumes the same amount of power or wattage because the voltage times the current will yield the same wattage so your costs to operate it would be the same. The advantage of going the 220 volt route is if you have to run a fairly long distance with the wire from your main panel to the appliance. The higher voltage would require a smaller wire so installation costs might be lower with the higher voltage due to wire costs. Thanks for doing the review because it helps us all.

[@pauls8685]

Yes people have that common misconception because of the amp draw. But actual electricity consumed is the same.

[@ISILENTNINJAI]

Thats good to know. I got to run mine about 300 feet or so to my backyard because I live in a stupid HOA.

[@sprockkets]

Technically you are correct. However, with these pioneer units, only the 230v inverter++ units get electronic expansion valves, which lead to higher efficiency and in turn, less power usage. It helps a lot in winter too.

[@DavidMosby]

I wish I had read yours before writing mine. Yep! It scares me what people get in their heads and believe!

[@mayte8018]

@@DavidMosby what bbn do you mean writting yours???

[@phillc3887]

I have been using a pioneer dual zone for over 8 years and I am happy with it.

[@AnthonyOnLife]

That's really good to hear. How many BTUs is your unit?

[@bobingram6704]

My 115V 9000Btu unit has been great! It's very quiet and runs from breakfast to sundown. Where we live it's very hot (northwestern Louisiana) and very humid. I took a small shot of 410A this year to put the low pressure back to spec. It uses very little power. It dehumidifies the entire time it's running. Sometimes during the spring and fall it's enough for our 1880 sq. ft. double-wide which has no tree shade at all. I would buy another in a heartbeat, but there's just not a good place for it on the other end of this house. I recommend it highly.

[@ja9915]

I have the 12000 BTU Diamante Ultra. Does your condenser fan somtimes run non stop ?

[@KeithBarker]

Thank you Anthony! I have had mine for a little over a year, and never realized there were additional buttons, including the self clean mode, which were on the remote❗ Thanks for the great video.

[@AnthonyOnLife]

Ha yeah, the remote is a bit sneaky.

[@psilocybemusashi]

there is no way in hell that indoor unit is installed to the manufacturer's instructions.

[@robertl.fallin7062]

Invest in heavy duty insulated curtains for that door . I found my huge windows really matters in February cold and windy days and while I can't give a accurate savings in energy, it is significantly warmer over night.

[@mae2759]

What's the difference between the 120v and 240v units? I see units with the same BTUs but different voltages.

[@michaelcharest9378]

anyone know if the outside unit is able to be mounted horizontally so the fan blows toward the ground (for mounting under an RV)?

[@maroman556]

They are required to be upright. The compressor would suck up liquid not gas destroy itself in short order if mounted any other way.

[@CarterQuillenP.E.]

20 SEER is 20 SEER, it doesn't matter whether the unit is 220V or 110V. The amperage is lower on the 220V units so you can use a smaller wire but that is really the only advantage to going with 220V. So if you want or need to use 110V it doesn't really matter. I would definitely recommend paying the extra cost for the 20 SEER series units because there is a huge difference between them and the 16 to 18 SEER series units. I've installed scores of mini splits from lots of different manufacturers and and in general they are all very similar in construction and performance. There are only a few actual manufacturers and many of the different brands are often the same unit with different stickers on them. The ones made in Japan seem the best, Chinese made units come in a close second and the only ones I've personally experience any problems with are the Korean made units by LG and even those are pretty good.

[@DavidStrchld]

Was going to say the same thing. If you look at the actual efficiency of some 220v110 volt units sometimes there is even a slight efficiency advantage of the 110V

[@fabiangomez357]

What are the Japan units called?

[@jasonmilnster4839]

It is true the wattage consumption is equal. What people are not realizing is you are billed on whichever leg is using more amps, not total watts. This is due to the way transformers work. So say on one leg you are pulling 10 amps, and you are pulling zero on the other leg. your bill will reflect 10 amps on both legs. So if you have the choice of pulling half the current one one leg, and half on the other, that is the cheapest. On high draw appliances such as heating and AC ALWAYS GO WITH 220 volt! Transformers have to create equal amps on both legs. this is why we balance loads on commercial buildings, it saves money!

[@CarterQuillenP.E.]

@@jasonmilnster4839a valid argument IF you are correct about residential meters, which is questionable, and I don't think you are. A commercial meter is a totally different piece of equipment and you want to be meticulously balance your loads because you'll spike your demand charge with the highest leg, which WILL increase your bill. You don't have a demand charge on a residential meter so I don't think your logic applies, although admittedly, IDK for sure. If you are correct, the power company is committing fraud by billing you for something you're not actually getting and that seems highly unlikely to me and it's something I've never heard of in my 35 years in the HVAC trades. But even if you are correct, which I seriously doubt, it hardly matters on a variable speed, 12,000 Btu mini split that draws 1 to 10 amps. The thing draws less than a hair dryer or a toaster when fully loaded and less than a TV, stereo, or even a computer most of the time. Most of your big hitters like central A/C, the oven, and water heater are simply 240V to make it easier to keep the panel box balanced to give you a better diversity factor so you can put on more nameplate loads than the box is actually rated at. I stand by my statement that 20 SEER is 20 SEER, no matter the voltage.

[@AlanSanderson-u4t]

@@DavidStrchldA lot of times the 110 volt units are more efficient smaller units.

[@leelemoine357]

I live in southern NH -- have one of the newer Inverter++ 18kbtu units just like this -- same oil forced hot air system; except my mini split is on the first floor.... it's done very well at supplementing the heat. I bought the wifi module; which allowed me to schedule it to fire up for 'heat' an hour after the oil furnace does it's pre-heat at 6AM; from there, the 18kbtu was supplementing my primary heating system throughout the day; to the point that unless it was below freezing, my heat wouldn't usually kick back on. Is it the most efficient? Probably not -- but it's way more energy efficient than a space heater; and that's what we had prior (literally 1/4 to 1/5 the price) -- and we've got super high energy costs here in NH!

[@replyhere590]

220 v 120--efficiency per the Pioneer spec sheet is similar, and likely only varies due to the motors used by the mfr. You also need to look at the HSPF on the units regarding heating; it varies out of synch with the SEER. Definitely would not recommend that close to ceiling. Also, note that above the 12K units, they get much heavier. Strongly recommend you up your insulation if you can--attic/ceiling is major. We installed 2 of these in 2015 and are going to do more at our farmhouse. I hope they have improved the remotes and the internet connectivity--it is schlock for the ones we have.

[@aristidesroman435]

Mini spli 110v or 220v same comsuption..110v × 10 amp = 1,100 watts 220v × 5 amp = 1,100 watts

[@petermaz701]

Hi great review. I also have this unit I have the 110 version and it works terrific quiet that you don’t know it’s running indoors or outdoors. My condenser unit sits right on my patio. I’m cooling a larger area with a 12,000 BTU but it’s a basement apartment with no heat load about 800 ft.² The only thing I have to disagree is that down here it usually gets much cooler than the rest of the house so I needed this unit to supplement the heat I was using electric heaters this is much more efficient and it does heat this place quite well even with no heat running centrally with the house which is hot air heating. Don’t know if that would have anything to do with being a 110 unit as opposed to a 220 unit but I don’t have problems with heating at all in fact that’s the one of the main reasons that I purchased and had this installed because this basement apartment is always cooler and with ceramic floors you feel like you’re in a tomb. I did notice that there is a difference with the set temperature and the actual temperature throughout the basement if I set it to 72 the basement is usually 68° so there’s like a 4° difference between what I set it at and what it actually becomes down here and I have a few different thermometers around not just relying on one. Let’s hope it lasts for a while but it’s a tremendous difference between using my electric heaters or my wall air conditioner and this definitely saving money and I’m using it more.

[@AnthonyOnLife]

Could just be my unit!

[@skuzzy99]

The end product of any electrical circuit is measured in watts. Watts is the (work) being done. For instance 120 volts x 10 amps = 1200 watts. 240 volts x 5 amps = 1200 watts. This is simple ohms law. For all practical purposes, 240 volt circuits are not measurably more efficient than 120 volts. You will however, have the added cost of a 2 pole breaker for the 240v plus the need for an extra space in your breaker panel that feeds the circuit. 120 and 240 also use the same number of conductors provided you don’t need a neutral wire for your 240 appliance electronics. Some appliances have a control transformer which can derive a neutral at that point, and even convert to 24 volts or whatever for the electronics, computers, small fans etc… For pure resistive loads such as fan-less heaters (baseboard type heaters and the like, have a power factor of 1, which is perfect in the eyes of the utility company. Besides all that, homeowners and most small businesses don’t pay for less than perfect power factors because it is not measured with the type of electric meters used in those areas. Generally only larger customers will have those types of meters. Sorry for the long rant. It’s what I do for a living. I’m ordering a pioneer unit tomorrow 😁

[@tmorton922]

I have had a pioneer 22.5 seer 12 kbtu for 6 years or so. Ours is also 220 v. I have been very pleased. I live in So cal in the desert ( 120 sometimes) I believe my particular unit has a Mitsubishi compressor) You definately pay for the name with Mitsu or other name brands.

[@shawnwilt7196]

I love the saying "Buy once and cry once".

[@AnthonyOnLife]

Me too! I usually spring for more expensive stuff to avoid headaches later on, but I really think this is a good value deal.

[@tonycharron73]

I hate when you put tape over things, only to read the directions later to find out Tape was not one of the required tools (HAHA) Seriously though, great review. Love your honest approach and commentary! Thanks for the great review of the minisplit. I am currently trying to decide on how to heat my 400 sq ft garage in Michigan. Originally was planning on a forced air Modine, or hot dawg up in the corner..... but for a little more I could get AC too, and much quieter. Just searching KZbin for reviews on the Minisplits and yours was a great find! Im thinking that a larger unit might suffice for what I want to do in my garage. Thanks again and keep up the great videos. Liked and Subbed

[@AnthonyOnLife]

The tape is still up there too. Every day i look at it say "don't forget to pull that off." And then i never do. Thanks for the comment and good luck with the install!

[@miguelluismusic4181]

This model Is a beast buy it people got mine for 599 from HD in early 2020 bought two

[@wadebrewer7212]

I have two of them. Very efficient, used them last year for primary heating. Only issue I have, the larger unit I have, 24k btu, draws 150 watts regardless if it is calling for heat/cool or not. STILL a cost savings over propane, and STILL a cost savings over propane. Blown away actually how well this tech works and will continue to get better. This will be the first full summer with both units installed. First pass guess, my electric for cooling will cut in half. In all fairness, we have a central air condensing unit that is is a bit over 25 years old. The spread would be far less when compared to a more efficient central air unit. However....why heat and cool the basement like the central air unit did. No point. So with the two units, we are able to zone heat and cool.

[@scotthagan3189]

150w even when not in use? Do you mean the fan keeps blowing and that fan uses 150w? I am especially interested because I dream of adding solar panels to a mini split, watts mean a lot to me.

[@TdrSld]

@@scotthagan3189 look into the EG4 unit as it has direct solar hook up

[@jerrellbevers6071]

You can't say your house is insulated fairly well and say the we haven't insulated the most important part yet.

[@AnthonyOnLife]

Well insulated as the quality of the insulation, the fact that there is very little leak, etc...There's more to insulation than just "where" the insulation is.

[@davidlampe4153]

@@AnthonyOnLife what type of installation are you using and what type of vapor barrier do you have?

[@AnthonyOnLife]

@@davidlampe4153 closed cell spray foam in the attic. Everything else is r30. Not sure on the vapor barrier.

[@ScottEdmonds]

Ceiling clearance is probably why your heating isn't as great as expected.

[@AnthonyOnLife]

Agreed. In retrospect I probably should have gone with a cassette style in the ceiling and put it closer to the ceiling fan to help distribute the warm air.

[@nennyferfer2385]

Honestly, pretty grateful for this vid as I’ve been researching the best Mini Split units. Thank you!

[@AnthonyOnLife]

Glad we could help!

[@kizunadragon9]

You want the best? Mitsubishi all the way. However they are expensive but sometimes you really do get what you pay for.

[@sunnyroadtrucker1717]

You MUST be the POLITEST person ever - speaking this POLITE and understandable for diy world people OR hired by PIONEER "maybe given one unit free" for commercial purposes! Watching your video is making me think buy one of these unit...🤔

[@Toastmaster_5000]

Were you trying to heat just the bedroom with the unit or were you hoping the heat would bleed into the rest of the house? Because I'm really surprised it wouldn't be able to keep up with warming just the bedroom alone, even with poor insulation. Assuming the unit can actually maintain warmth in the bedroom alone, you could always block the forced hot air vent so your furnace isn't wasting its energy on heating the bedroom. Might lower your heating bill a bit.

[@AnthonyOnLife]

Just trying to heat the bedroom. We had some energy specialists come in and sure up the house as well as spray foam the attic, and it still didn't provide enough heat. I think the NH winters are just too cold. Good idea about the blocking the forced hot air though, I hadn't thought of that!

[@grancitodos7318]

I have the same specs unit from Mirage, and a friend has the same from Carrier, we both find that they cool well, but are weak on the heating. The Carrier cost $1,700, the Mirage cost $530 + $23 delivery by DHL. At that price, I will just keep replacing mine if it fails, and I did all of the installation, so a very cheap system.

[@Kickstartyourcar]

Awesome video Anthony, keep it up :)

[@ericnastav]

100 degrees in New Hampshire?? Eh...no. stop lying.

[@scottgorman7166]

Thanks for the info Tony. Researching the smaller one for a cargo trailer conversion..

[@AnthonyOnLife]

Glad to help

[@larryadams4358]

Finally someone who gives a real review. Too much click bait on KZbin in regard to mini splits. Thanks for the knowledge man and good luck.

[@AnthonyOnLife]

Thanks! yeah I hate click bait crap and wanted to give a real perspective on this product since there doesn't seem to be too much out there on it.

[@anothercasualobserver8764]

So I followed the amazon link provided and did not find a Pioneer with a 21.5 SEER rating as claimed. The best that is offered in Pioneer on Amazon is a 19 SEER. Just saying...

[@AnthonyOnLife]

@@anothercasualobserver8764 What's available on Amazon changes pretty frequently. amzn.to/2SNV3Q6

[@statestreetlandscaping6955]

Bad location. You never install those over a door and especially that close to the ceiling.

[@blackbirdxx928]

100* extreme heat WOW lol 12 noon in lake havasu az 112* probably go 117* How does 220 use less current than 110 ?

[@AnthonyOnLife]

Lol I'll take an additional 12 degrees with no humidity.

[@elgringoec]

Handy stuff to know. This video popping up makes me wonder how Google knew I had this in my save for later cart on Amazon... 🤔🤯

[@AnthonyOnLife]

Glad to help!

[@lucidmonkey3591]

Try talking about taking a cruise 🚢… with your phone near by… then just wait

[@tonyaction5284]

Thank you for the awesome Video!!!! You my friend are very informative and you speak very clearly, unlike other folks that either studder, repeat words over and over and…”uuuhhm” between every other word. Thank you again sir. I salute you🤙🏼💪🏼😎

[@AnthonyOnLife]

Thank you for the support!

[@pinklightninglights]

I purchased 4 of the Mitsubishi mini split units. At 4.5 years they began to have problems and keep having problems. I am preparing to replace these units with the Pioneer so I appreciate your feedback. It's not worth the extra money to buy Mitsubishi because once your unit is 5 years old you cannot buy just the air handler or the outside unit you have to replace the entire unit!! Thanks for making this video!!

[@AnthonyOnLife]

Damn that's disappointing to hear. The Mitsus ain't cheap! This summer has been BRUTAL in NH, and our unit has been running non-stop, no problems! Only in the 2nd season with it, but my plumber friend who gave me a hand putting it in says his pops has a 5 year old pioneer that has no problems.

[@pinklightninglights]

@@AnthonyOnLife I'll be putting in a Pioneer very soon. I'll let you know how it compares. I'm in Florida. I'm glad to hear that Pioneer has some positive feedback. Thanks for responding!!

[@AnthonyOnLife]

@@pinklightninglights It's been a brutally hot summer here in NH, I can only imagine what it's like in Florida! Good luck!

[@trevorrisley5419]

Nice video, my dude! Keep up the grind with your channel and you’ll be where ya’ wanna be in NO time. I’d just cut out the background music, though. You present yourself well enough that the superfluous noise ain’t necessary.

[@AnthonyOnLife]

Thank you!

[@hgodtx]

Freight: guys handing the freight service won't throw and drop boxes. FedEx & UPS handlers will drop, throw, and tumbler roll boxes all the time.

[@jimthvac100]

The 120 Volt version will be just as efficient as the 220 volt version. Both consume the same wattage. No idea where you are getting that misinformation.

[@GeraldMMonroe]

Not true, the 120v version is 0.3 SEER lower.

[@eyobsolomon2186]

Is your pioneer still working today??

[@MrSovrin]

Do you have central air conditioning? If so did you find that it helped offset the central air running as much? I'm getting a setup just like you in the master bedroom and am hopping it will pick up some of the slack of the the main aircon on those really hot humid days.

[@AnthonyOnLife]

No central air in my place. It's been 100+ every day this week and very humid, and this unit handled it great on its own.

[@jamesm568]

I don't care what brand they are or how cheap they are, the only thing that matters to me is finding a local person that can service the damn things.

[@nicholashartzler2205]

Any tech can service them just a matter of if they want to. The other brands mostly won't offer any professional support unless you have a contract or account with them. Pioneer will talk you through replacing a compressor if you sound like you have an idea of what your doing lol.

[@tex2034]

Do it yourself. 8 years and I have only had contractors and relays go bad. I have 7 units. Easy.

[@DonYeyoReaks]

@@tex2034 what brand do you recommend?

[@MadsWorld34]

finally a real review. i live in Texas so we only have to live with bitter cold. i mean below freezing maybe 4 days a year. so the heating dont really matter as much. but the being so close to the ceiling does. because i have tall windows and i have no choice but to mount one above a window. and this helps. but my real question is can you set your temp with bluetooth or do you have to have the remote.

[@AnthonyOnLife]

This model doesn't have bluetooth but theu may offer one that does.

[@MadsWorld34]

@@AnthonyOnLife ok thanks because my old lady can lose a remote and never leave the chair so i know what would happen with this one unless i nail it to the wall or something.

[@joeyholthusen6495]

In February I had -42 degrees on my thermometer. HSPF rating is for heating. I live in northern Minnesota just 45 miles away from Canada

[@AnthonyOnLife]

That's cold!

[@reviews2you]

You don't have any idea how many watts this pulls on average per hour do you? How hot does it get in the summer in that room? You mentioned you take it down to around 70 and takes 30-40 minutes but what is starting temp? do you clean it? How often if so and how hard is it? I was checking out a cooper & hunter 25 seer, they use silver ionizing to reduce bacteria build up which was cool. thx for the review

[@futbol1972]

so do you guys recommend this Amazon pioneer mini split system? I have a 3 car garage insulated, garage doors insulated as well, about 650sq ft with 8ft ceilings. I live in Clovis California. I was told an 180000 BTU mini split will work fine in my insulated area, or will I need more btus??. Thank you

[@PLATINUM2U]

That is so strange. My 36k btu Mr cool has a 21.5 seer rating. I wonder how they were able to achieve such a high seer rating with such a large condenser unit🤔🤔

[@AnthonyOnLife]

Not sure!

[@Toastmaster_5000]

I've noticed when shopping around that inverter-style mini splits like Mr Cool tend to get more efficient when you have a bigger condenser. I'm guessing this is because it has a lot more thermal capacity but can "down throttle" the compressor so it's not over-compensating.

[@MrMikeyPayne]

120V or 240V unit will use the same amount of electricity (watts), so the electric bill you will pay will be identical. It works like this: 120V x 10 Amps = 1200 Watts. If it was a 240V unit it would use half the amps, so it would look like this: 240V x 5 Amps = 1200 Watts. You pay for Kilowatt Hours (Kwh) of electricity used. So, a 1200 Watt consumption of electricity would mean if it ran at that level for one hour you would have 1.2 Kwh usage. If you paid 10 cents per Kwh, you would pay 12 cents per hour if it were running at that level. FYI, I have no idea what the consumption of the unit he installed is, I just made up these numbers for help in the discussion. Of course, if you have higher voltage, you need less amps for the same work to be done....however, for a small mini split, it is really not anything to even trouble oneself over in 98% of the cases. If I was running I longer run to an office shed, I would probably opt for a 240V unit. If I wanted to operate a small minisplit like int he video off a small generator, I would opt for a 120V mini split because small 30Amp inverter generators are 120V. But that is just me and my thinking out loud.

[@stevenmartinez5531]

What! I just put in a window AC style unit though the wall that required a 220v line and the electrician charged me $800 dollars in the San Francisco CA Bay area .....

[@AnthonyOnLife]

Oof. Sorry bro.

[@DonYeyoReaks]

They robbed you broski

[@jeremymiller1044]

How you liking that commie California?

[@rgonzales2010]

Very Good review! Thanks!

[@nicholaslawson4474]

My motor went bad after 4 months of use. Even though I bought the unit directly from Pioneer they said I was out of warranty since the actual purchase was made a year ago and I didn’t register (was never told I needed to). I’ve never needed to register a unit I bought directly from the manufacturer

[@fredA1234]

It looks like you’re unit is only a couple inches from the ceiling? In the instruction it says minimum of 8 to 10 inches. Have you noticed that it’s not working to full capacity? Thanks Fred

[@dgpuig45]

I can tell you this from experience as a maintenance supervisor. Heat-pumps are not going to heat very well below 40 degs F outside temps.

[@pepawspostings9231]

I am also a maintenance supervisor and all though they can provide some heat it doesn't offset the heat loss in cold weather.

[@AJ-ox8xy]

It depends on if they have heat strips installed or not. With heat strips, as long as the temp is above 10F° then you'll be nice and cosy. Edit: the only down side of using heat strips is the reduction of seer rating when on. You could have a unit that's 17 or even 21 on Seer rating, but when the heat strips are on it could drop it to 12 or 15 depending. Overall though even with the heat strips being on for say 2 months out of the year, it saves more power and specifically the cost of gas or firewood, when compared to a furnace or firewood boiler.

[@garethbaus5471]

Worst case scenario they roughly match the efficiency of a space heater.

[@jeffreycash1572]

My samsung unit heats great I've seen no degradation on heat at Temps below 10 degrees. And there are no heat strips

[@gpdoyon]

Thank you very much for your update! I totally agree with your assessments regarding the cost of the unit. We already have two Mitsubishi heat pumps that were professionally installed. They were great, but, the installation cost was considerable. That’s why I decided to do a Pioneer DIY install. So far, so good! It’s extremely important to select the correct size unit to heat or cool your area. We have a oil based heating system that we use only when temperatures here in Maine get below zero. Otherwise, we love our heat pumps.

[@randomguy2369]

Thanks for the review and for actually going into detail. All I need it for is for one of the rooms that doesn't get any air out from the ducts(low pressure) it's a 2020 mobile home so disappointed about that but this should fix that problem

[@AnthonyOnLife]

Happy to help, and good luck!

[@jerrymorris3456]

You need to get the attic insulated, you loose 80 to 85% of your heat through the ceiling, so of course the pump couldn't keep up. living in New Hampshire you are probably going to want R50 to R60.. it will change the whole dynamic of your home. With the cost of oil skyrocketing it is something you will want to do if you continue to use oil heat..

[@Tyler-eo2li]

Using it as a primary heating source 100 percent depends on where you are located in the country , if your down south and a cold day is 30 yes you will be fine if it’s -10 like he says then get a damn boiler lol

[@InvisibleCitizen]

It’s been two plus years since you made this video. Is the unit still working well! Thanks!

[@davidwheelock2569]

This was a very helpful review. I'm in the shopping/comparing mode and I'm not very familiar with any of the mini split manufacturers. The price point for Pioneer is very attractive, so this review is great input. Thanks for taking the time to do the review.

[@69bobr]

I'm confused. How are you able to run a 220V appliance in the US, which is 110/120V? The reverse can't be true too (120V appliance plugged into a 220V outlet). Can it? Before the snickering and eye rolls commence, I'm not your average Home Depot, plaid shirt, tool belt wearing guy. Just a retired suit that is most comfortable in the kitchen with pots and pans, a chopping board and a very sharp, well balanced knife. I did read on a site reviewing various mini splits, that the power cable needs to be run to the main fuse box for better power savings. Is that true? I initially thought that the power csble just needs to be plugged in to the nearest power outlet! BTW, I'm going to get it installed by a professional, someone recommended by Angi's List/HomeAdvisor. Just doing MY due diligence.

[@AnthonyOnLife]

I know nothing about electrical TBH. I bought 220 unit, an electrician wired it to my box. That's about all I can tell you.

[@69bobr]

@@AnthonyOnLife Thanks for the info. I'll have to do a bit more research. Also, it's for a small office (10' × 13') which was a later addition to the side of the house, with no real insulation other than double glazed windows.

[@jeffp7776]

When you combine two legs you get 220. You have to run a new line. 220 is used all over a US house. Older Electric dryers, electric oven or range, central AC/Heat. It's regularly added for things like garage power equipment compressors, welders, woodworking machines etc.

[@69bobr]

@@jeffp7776 Got it all "splained" by the authorized installers/techs of Daikin brand. Thank you all, for your inputs. 🙏

[@greenspiraldragon]

Are the Pioneer's precharged or do you have to get it charged?

[@AnthonyOnLife]

Pre-charged, but I believe you need to recharge the lines if you are going beyond 15' for your lines.

[@marcgallant5270]

I use 3 Mini splits(two 12k and one 9k) to heat my 1900 sq ft. house, in Canada with temps down to -15F a few times a year. it has 0 issues maintaining 72F house temp, i could even achieve 76-78 if i wanted. Mind you my units are rated 100% efficient down to -13F. Also note HSPF is the units efficiency for heating and often overlooked. I have 2 Daikin Aurora and 1 fujitsu XLTH, all three rated down to -15F. * note i also have r60 attic insulation and all windows are dual pan

[@AnthonyOnLife]

I don't think anyone doubts the quality of the FUjitisu!

[@seanbaxter9993]

How are your Daikin Aurora holding up for heating and cooling just north of me?? IS your Fujitsu a hyper heat also?

[@marcgallant5270]

@seanbaxter9993 my fujitsu is a 10 year Halcyon hyper heat. Cooling performance seems to be the same but the Fujitsu's heating is phenomenal. It's really hard to compare since they heat/cool different size rooms. I can't judge the newer Fujitsu stuff by i have had a few issues with my fujitsu(coil leak). Daikin just launched a new efficient model "atmophera" series, I would likely go that route if I was buying new, but that's more to do with the level of service/reputation of my local daikin dealers. If mitsubishi finally solved their auto shutdown at -25c I would likely go that route, but I haven't read anything on their new hyper heat models they recently released.

[@seanbaxter9993]

@@marcgallant5270 Thanks for the information

[@Oddtodd2448]

Any/ most states you are allowed to do your own electric work if the service is less than 200amps

[@JGoodwin]

Do you think having it closer to the ceiling might be contributing to the lower heating performance?

[@mr_ice117]

Living in az i think this would be perfect. Sharing a house means you don't get to run the AC all day like i want so my room is hot and cold all day. Cold when the main ac is on but hot once it stops cause the insulation sucks in a older house. I would like to install this for my room to keep it at 70 all day and night. As for the heater i could care less as it never drops below 30 where i live and a thick blanket is plenty for keeping warm in winter

[@chief230]

Why does a 220 version of this use less electricity? 220 just pulls the electricity twice as fast as a 110.

[@bayside6207]

Just picked up a brand new Pioneer "18,000" BTU unit for $850

[@imasahm]

What a fantastically thorough and useful review, wow!

[@kenreynolds1000]

Freight shipping is liking due to the coolant charge in the system. Air shippers don't do that. Thanks for the review as I am looking at setting one up here in WA.

[@kristyl6124]

This was an awesome video! I am building a tiny home and I want to get a mini split but there are so many out there. Your review and experience was just so much help. Thank you.

[@doghairdontcarelindaniel7531]

All this info is very helpful. Nice video. Will consider Pioneer. Thank you from Texas

[@cdwebber2646]

Hey thanks so much for the video. I have a couple questions but first I am looking to have a mini-split installed in a open loft area of my condo that is approximately 300sq ft. with a 12 ft. slanted ceiling mean the highest part is 12ft. Some one told me that I need to get the measurements in cubic ft is that correct? Also, I will be running the line through my attic and down the side of the two story condo so I will need about 50ft of line. I am also being told that I need to make sure that the compressor can handle that much work being that the refringent will have to travel from the compressor through the line to the inside wall unit. I am looking at a 12000 btu unit with 19 steer, I know this is a lot but the questions in this are as follows 1. Should I be measuring the cubic ft of the room? 2. Would the 50ft be okay to run for the compressor of a 12000btu with 19 steer

[@AnthonyOnLife]

For cooling, square feet is usually sufficient. For heat, I think you may want to look at some estimation charts. 12k BTU is probably a little overkill for 300sqft, so it might be just right given your additional ceiling height.

[@tonycharron73]

Another thought, These units can be wall mounted as Anthony showed in his video. I have seen where they mount the outside compressor up high on the second floor (rather than running down to ground level) Might want to check into that as an option to save you from the extra length of line, and the reduced efficiency issue.

[@robertkat]

Japan 300 million split units, they can't be wrong

[@flpaintman71]

Too Funny.. I had the same problem with the remote. I had it for two years before I realized the remote had that slide that allowed for the other options and turbo. I purchased the WiFi adapter so I was using that for all the controls.

[@AnthonyOnLife]

Ha yeah, I felt like an idiot when I realized there were more buttons. It probably has an illustration in the manual, but who reads those anyway?

[@iamdenislara]

4:50 maybe the reason why the heating was not that great was because the room is not well insolated.

[@josan4613]

got same unit for 600 this black Friday deal, do you know what size breaker circuit you use for this? I was thinking of 20A but checked spec, it calls for 15A, which doesn't make sense to me.

[@AnthonyOnLife]

600 is an amazing deal. Mine is wired to a 20 I believe

[@terrysookhoo2528]

Thats d best ac yes

[@Jon-wt4rx]

Doesn’t the design make it a lot healthier than an old style window unit? I can’t find any info on this. I’m not an a.c guy obviously but I recently took apart my old window ac as I suspected it was making me sick. I was right! The thing was disgusting. I had to spend four hours taking it apart and cleaning it. Doing so I realized it won’t be long before it’s nasty and spitting contaminated air into my living quarters specifically because of its design. After reviewing it I realized the mini split might be the answer to keeping the nasty part of the air conditioner separate from the part that our lungs are exposed to. Any ac guys out there to confirm this?

[@edkight6447]

Jovian, Hate to say, there is probably marginal difference in nasty build up on the evaporator coil between the two styles. Window a/c are designed to run condensate water to rear pan and that air shouldn't really mix with inside air. Same principle on split system only condensate water is supposed to drain outside. They're both prone to stagnation on inside coil eventually if they don't drain really well. How it's leveled will make a big difference on how it drains !

[@Reddylion]

Hmm

[@runfayalife]

I'm in a 300 sf room and it sucks for heating.

[@Mr.Schitzengigglez]

Nice! Ordering one tomorrow, for my 25' shuttle bus/ tiny home build, with a 8'x17'x6.5' living space. Grateful the first KZbin review I caught, just happened to be from within the same State. Zero worries on heat. Being from NH, a woodstove was one of my first additions to the plans.

[@AnthonyOnLife]

Awesome man! Let me know how it works out

[@lorettastamps]

I’ve got a Pioneer mini split in my tiny house. Been living tiny for over 3 years now. Had a couple of regular maintenance issues, but local a/c company has been great to work with. I like mine.

[@jessicanaylor43]

We’re thinking about buying one as well for our mini school bus build. How’s it working for you?

[@issaciams]

Wait I'm very ignorant to mini splits and have a lot of questions but 1 of them is if anyone knows whether the outside unit for these mini splits are weather proof from rain, snow, extreme heat/cold?

[@AnthonyOnLife]

Yep the outdoor unit can handle pretty extreme weather, as long as nothing is obstructing the fan.

[@MitchHeil]

I am planning on insulating my garage and putting something like this. I live in MN so temps regularly get and stay sustained at -10 or more during the winter. Even if I got an 18k or 24k system I would be screwed for a month or 2?

[@AnthonyOnLife]

I think if you can get the garage well warmed prior to the really cold days, you'll be okay with a 24k unit. The other thing you could do is partially cover/insulate the outdoor unit, which would help.

[@bryanr4088]

Look into getting a hyper heat unit.

[@MitchHeil]

@@bryanr4088 it looks like they're only good to -13. We get consistent -20, -30s. Probably need a gas furnace like a modine for the winter and then the mini split for the summer.

[@bryanr4088]

@@MitchHeil check out the Cooper and Hunter hyperheats. That might work.

[@tonycharron73]

@@bryanr4088 Thanks for the suggestion Bryan...... Ive been debating between Forced air, or a minisplit for my garage as well.

[@trentslay255]

Your saying 100 plus that far north in New Hampshire? I live in sun tropic climate and it gets that hot outside but that outdoor temperature that far north? Sounds wild, can you grow citrus and banana there?

[@AnthonyOnLife]

The therm in my car only goes up to 99. Was maxed out today sitting out of the sun in a relatively "cool" parking garage! Doubtful about the citrus. It's only this hot for about 2 months a year. I don't think the soil is right for that kind of food either, but I don't know much about gardening or farming.