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@OutoftheWoods0623
@OutoftheWoods0623 10 ай бұрын
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@walterperry4565
@walterperry4565 9 ай бұрын
YELLOW LOCUST IM WEST VIRGINIA BEST POST
@paultennis9414
@paultennis9414 10 ай бұрын
We appreciate the hard work it takes to produce these videos.
@Boilermedman
@Boilermedman 10 ай бұрын
Osage orange was an additional favorite fencepost wood in southern Indiana. Sometimes if they were planted green they would sprout into trees, which is why you could see them growing along fencelines & along roads bordering fields.
@arlynsmith9196
@arlynsmith9196 10 ай бұрын
It is also known as hedge and the trees grow "hegde apples" every year. Those are useful for preventing bugs in crawl spaces. The wood is so hard it can take some special techniques to work with but in KS there are some custom furniture hobbyist-makers who make wonderful pieces from it.
@philstocks7859
@philstocks7859 10 ай бұрын
Another reason you will find osage orange trees in fence rows: During the dust bowl of the 1930s, osage orange, because it is drought hardy, was planted by the government throughout the Midwest as windbreaks. Sad to say, thousands of miles of these windbreaks have today been challenged by bulldozers. The bulldozers won!!!
@Boilermedman
@Boilermedman 10 ай бұрын
@@arlynsmith9196 I know bowmakers make great longbows out of osage orange if the tree is big enough
@stevehicks8944
@stevehicks8944 10 ай бұрын
My paternal grandfather made his axe and hammer handles out of hedge apple. He used a draw knife and a piece of glass to shape the wood while it was still green. My double bit axe has a handle made by Grandpa Ernest in 1946 or 1947. His father made the previous handle before WW1.
@texasjetman
@texasjetman 10 ай бұрын
Awesome story thanks for sharing for sure. I remember a guy in the tiny town of Rathbun Iowa making Hedge Hammer handles Shovel bd spade handles& selling them from his garage when I was a kid my pops would drop off hammers and broken spades and he’s replace them for $1.50-$3 each back in the early 1970’s. Pops said he couldn’t do near as nice a job as that guy did for the time & money he charged
@itatane
@itatane 10 ай бұрын
Fun fact, Black Locust will glow under a black light. Locust trees are rot resistant, but prone to ants, who create pathways for rot, as well as damaging the wood themselves. Certain diseases are also prevalent nowadays in some populations. A forester told me years back that Black Locust started to develop blight like issues and they can be healthy in one county and diseased in the next.
@richtomlinson7090
@richtomlinson7090 10 ай бұрын
We have a lot of Black Locust and Red Mulberry, but Orange Osage is rare for some reason, even though it grows pretty far north. I think Orange Osage likes the South in general and the Midwest best. These three trees, are the most rot resistant of all in North America.
@JammyCrackcorn
@JammyCrackcorn 10 ай бұрын
Osage Orange was also used in making Recurve Bows for its elasticity…beautiful colors with the reddish /yellow color…
@alex_stanley
@alex_stanley 10 ай бұрын
Large honey locust logs saw up into beautiful lumber. I had black locust posts in my garden fence (whole logs, not lumber), and they lasted 20-something years.
@paulshowers9498
@paulshowers9498 10 ай бұрын
they also use to use black locus for guard rail and here in WV they still split the for fence post
@OutoftheWoods0623
@OutoftheWoods0623 10 ай бұрын
Interesting
@jimtomlinson4411
@jimtomlinson4411 10 ай бұрын
On our farm we keep a grove of locus trees as a continuous supply of fence posts, makes great firewood
@MrONELAST8
@MrONELAST8 10 ай бұрын
I actually have 3 "cookies" that my Farther In-law made for his Granddaughters Wedding about 6 years or so ago I wasn't aware of the significance of them or the history of them, they were used to set the flowers on the guests table and afterward they tried giving them all away I could only fit 3 in the car, and my best friend came over the other day and noticed them and liked them it made me feel good about having them. I am proud of them because my FIL worked hard preparing 26 or 28 of them in his shop. Thank You for teaching me a second thing in this video I am almost 60 and grew up on, around and worked on a farm and livestock so I know what Black Locus was for but never knew what I was touching or repairing so today is a good day. I am always wanting to learn that's why I watch your channel.
@olddawgdreaming5715
@olddawgdreaming5715 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing with us Nathan. Hope you can get ahold of some decent Locust to use for your project. It is a real pain to work with. Stay safe and keep up the good work around there. Fred.
@charlescompton4495
@charlescompton4495 10 ай бұрын
Well, we had some locust around our former residence in Southern Ohio. Some had the Honey Locust giant thorns and some very small. The small thorned were used for fence posts a lot. We burned the cut offs in our wood stove and it did put off a lot of heat...even green! I noticed a blue flame off some. I don't know why but there sure was a small blue flame and only on the black locust. Greg
@dapperdave4952
@dapperdave4952 10 ай бұрын
Nathan...didja know that when exposed to UV light, the black locust wood appears fluorescent green! I turned a few bowls from Black Locust and never have a problem locating it on the shelf.
@benbarber4601
@benbarber4601 10 ай бұрын
Loved this video. Every log is not always perfect but even in its imperfection it was enjoyable.
@MS-hl8fe
@MS-hl8fe 10 ай бұрын
When I was in Ecuador, I noticed that the farmers used live trees for fence poles. Our guide told us that it was a better option than buying manufactured posts. The reason was due to the weather. A store bought post would rot in less than a year. Don't remember what like of tree they used. But one that sticks out in my mind is the ironwood tree.
@bryansaunter4124
@bryansaunter4124 10 ай бұрын
Nathan I live way north west of you in Alberta Canada. Lot of small sawmills use cutoffs in a hot water boiler. Water is sent to kilns an to heat shops.lots of home made. Helps reduce cost great use of useless woods you dispose of.
@johnsmith-xr6qy
@johnsmith-xr6qy 10 ай бұрын
Gloves and carefully handling of these logs is a must. I saw the large thorns on this log. Yes they are pain full because of the poisonous sap & they are very sharp and tough. Locust logs are almost rot resistant. I have a pile I buried after cleaning a fence line.....30 years ago. A neighbor used his broom handle size limbs as fence posts (aka T posts) Many are still standing 50 years later.
@joeysweet9045
@joeysweet9045 10 ай бұрын
I've had the thorns flatten a tractor tire before while bush hogging all the fluid in the back tire almost leaked out when I went back a couple days later so I went to have it repaired and they got 2 thorns out of the right rear tire!!
@freestonew
@freestonew 2 ай бұрын
when I lived with my sister near Asheville, North Carolina, she told me about the "R-value" in wood. The higher the R-value, the hotter the wood burned. Black locust was near the top. she would find some rotten locust logs and they burned hotter than even recent cut wood! There was also cases where farmers would put in a lust fence post row and some of the post sprouted leaves! Then these leaving out posts later became trees!
@kenthorsen4558
@kenthorsen4558 10 ай бұрын
I remember reading a successful farming magazine from the 1940's on how to make an extra five hundred dollars a year selling black locust fence posts.
@OutoftheWoods0623
@OutoftheWoods0623 10 ай бұрын
Interesting
@williamdomke8558
@williamdomke8558 10 ай бұрын
I built a small pergola over 25 years ago out of red oak 4x4 i salvaged.coverd all the post with roofing tar, they all roted off but one, turned out to be white oak. The white oak is still solid as a rock!!
@davidschreiner6667
@davidschreiner6667 10 ай бұрын
We had an old barn on our farm that was built out of cypress and after a hundred years that barn is still solid. You can tell this was definitely old growth wood because some of the boards were 16 to 20 inches wide.
@TheJkibs
@TheJkibs 10 ай бұрын
Still have black locust posts on our property that were installed by my great grandfather. The barbed wire had all rusted away. They won’t be around much longer but I do love to walk the property line and see the few that are still standing.
@bobvrnr
@bobvrnr 10 ай бұрын
Just up the road from you in Pound, VA my dad had a tractor shed made of black locust that his father cut and built back in the 1930's. It's still standing today.
@johnwoody4905
@johnwoody4905 10 ай бұрын
there are still a few fence post my grandfather put in that have to be 90 years old they were sawmilled post. i think to make them last the have you have to peel the bark off and let them dry. if you put them in green with the bark on they they will put out limbs and rot. they make nice lumber but are hard on blades they need to be stickered and stacked or they will bow up bad.. i have only sawed 2 logs.they will last a lot longer that treated we have treated ones that didn,t last 5 years. take care, be safe and well.
@gkiferonhs
@gkiferonhs 10 ай бұрын
In our neck of the woods (Kansas) the Osage Orange or Bodark tree is the preferred post wood. There are still fence posts holding up some fence that were put in in the 1890's. You'll never drive a nail into them and I've struck sparks off of a chain saw trying to cut into them.
@russellsmith3825
@russellsmith3825 10 ай бұрын
Waves from the Pratt area
@Poolguppy101
@Poolguppy101 10 ай бұрын
Yup, cut many osage posts and I use osage for my boiler, stuff is super dense, heavy and burns HOT. waves from Miami County!
@tywebbgolfenthusiast8950
@tywebbgolfenthusiast8950 10 ай бұрын
I wondered if that’s what he was going to talk about when I saw the description. We have “hedge apples” in the southern counties in Iowa.
@bobbg9041
@bobbg9041 10 ай бұрын
Wave from clay/plat area.
@texasjetman
@texasjetman 10 ай бұрын
That’s what we called that in Southern Iowa Hedge.
@RichardPrice-d7y
@RichardPrice-d7y 6 ай бұрын
In woodworking catalog advertising all types of wood available from all over the earth,the only wood type listed unavailable was Persimmon,which is a beautiful. type of wood very unique and there is some trees that are big enough to make nice lumber and you can name your price for it
@beavis4play
@beavis4play 10 ай бұрын
i've had sparks come when cutting hickory...that is REALLY hard, dense wood - and there isn't any better firewood. (locust is as good but it's all gone here in ohio)
@robertsnyder5193
@robertsnyder5193 10 ай бұрын
I live two hrs n/e of Pittsburgh and i have several you’d be welcome to, dang shame you are so far away. Was told by an old man that locust needs split rather than sawn to keep its longevity or unsawn as i put in years ago using small trees. Blessings
@bobpace5464
@bobpace5464 3 ай бұрын
Our main post wood post his hedge here in Iowa
@1striperon
@1striperon 10 ай бұрын
We had black locust fence posts on the farm in CT. It was hard to drive the fencing staples without bending it. Very hard.
@randytrull6194
@randytrull6194 10 ай бұрын
I'm near Asheville and have several locust on the mountain behind me but I don't think i want to chance trying them on my mill.
@richardwest-q8w
@richardwest-q8w 10 ай бұрын
The bad locust log could be a treasure to a woodworker who uses epoxy. Clearly it would take alot of epoxy, but it would make great turning blanks, or a beautiful mantle.
@andrewbratos6907
@andrewbratos6907 6 ай бұрын
great video Nathan, couldn't you put a weight of your choice on the log when your cutting cookies, mite not have to go back and forth
@richtomlinson7090
@richtomlinson7090 10 ай бұрын
I think they love sandy soil, and their nitrogen fixing bacteria can help improve the soil. I don't see them naturally as much, in rich clay soil, but they can be planted just about anywhere, but they love soil that they can improve.
@stevanwp
@stevanwp 10 ай бұрын
It is a pleasure to watch your youtube videos thank you
@OutoftheWoods0623
@OutoftheWoods0623 10 ай бұрын
Ty
@thearrowheadwoodsman3811
@thearrowheadwoodsman3811 10 ай бұрын
I've always heard that about Osage orange. Cheers !!
@randydobson1863
@randydobson1863 10 ай бұрын
hello nathan it's is randy and i like yours video is cool thanks nathan friends randy
@oldcharlie5533
@oldcharlie5533 10 ай бұрын
My father use to say that locust would last longer in the ground then iron..but only two days..
@zapa1pnt
@zapa1pnt 10 ай бұрын
It looks like the original rot, in that Black Locust, was the result of multiple trunks? 😁✌🖖
@yophotoman
@yophotoman 10 ай бұрын
Interesting video. I know the guy who owns & operates Johnson City Stone Supply. My son and the owner, Zach, were buddies when they were kids and both lived in FL. Good honest family owned company ... should you need stone work.
@stbenardnot510
@stbenardnot510 10 ай бұрын
Old boy told me that black locust fence posts would outlast the hole.
@snobear41
@snobear41 10 ай бұрын
that unchinked deal inside the barn? Could that have been a corn crib?- Tyler
@jwshoptime.jeeprepairpleas8552
@jwshoptime.jeeprepairpleas8552 10 ай бұрын
Big plus with owning my little woodland mill .my wood shed is full .Jw shop time jeep and wood channel
@smity7096
@smity7096 10 ай бұрын
I'm not close to you but we have bunch nice black locus
@DavidBeyea
@DavidBeyea Ай бұрын
Time to address those light my friend
@ritabond5814
@ritabond5814 10 ай бұрын
Bluetti give away Nathan for the sweat shit fits perfect 😍 😅. (Thanks) Hope I win this Rita Bond
@joanneprice8002
@joanneprice8002 10 ай бұрын
Is that timber toxic?
@OutoftheWoods0623
@OutoftheWoods0623 10 ай бұрын
Don’t think so
@McElroyForestry
@McElroyForestry 10 ай бұрын
If they were scared by a fire, that could have opened them up to a rot.
@markbrown3252
@markbrown3252 10 ай бұрын
More than likely corn crib.
@Monkeysic
@Monkeysic 10 ай бұрын
Saw locust all the time up here in PA. I think its one of the most underrated woods, but it's an absolute nightmare to saw. It moves, twists and splits. It does better if you let rhe logs sit a year or two but then it's hard as a rock and makes a powder for dust and dulls bands faster then you can change them 😂.
@lautburns4829
@lautburns4829 2 ай бұрын
You are correct! Locust grow well here in NY. Made 20’ and 40’ beams for barn. Sold fence posts back in 1970 for $3 each.😂
@2naturesownplace
@2naturesownplace 10 ай бұрын
@Nathan if memory serves me correctly on the time frame there was a blight that hit the Locust species in the 60s in North Carolina Tennessee and South West Virginia. One thing also to note. Was that black locust and honey locust were both used on tillage farm equipment to replace bearings you just had to keep grease on it when you were using the tillage disc. I was given a 3-point tillage disc from the fifties and the original owner had to replace the bearings a few years into use. He used Locust blocks that were honed out to fit the rod of the tillage disc and they were still used by me until I sold it 2 years ago.
@troytreeguy
@troytreeguy 10 ай бұрын
I rebuilt a chicken coop thirty years old and re used the locust posts. It was a pain drivin a staple! Those posts are still standing 20 years later.
@robert.brokaw3829
@robert.brokaw3829 10 ай бұрын
Thank you, Nathan, for the history/ tutorial lesson on Black Locust - I didn't know the history behind the species. Looks like a lot of firewood in that trees future. Stay safe.
@texasjetman
@texasjetman 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely he sure does a super nice job explaining things. I’ve learned so much from watching him over the years
@jamesrees3270
@jamesrees3270 10 ай бұрын
In Illinois, were I grew up, we used Black locust and osage orange for fence posts. I think the osage orange is better.
@glfarwell
@glfarwell 10 ай бұрын
If you could find a large enough AND straight enough osage orange tree, it would make the best corner post for your woven wire fence or gate pivot. Cutting it and stapling had to be done while it was still green. My dad burned a piece of an old fence post in his fireplace, Burned so hot, he had it replace the cast iron grate.
@richardthornhill4630
@richardthornhill4630 10 ай бұрын
Black locust must be similar to Bois d''arc, Osage orange, that we have in Texas, very dense yellow wood. The Indians used it to make long bows. Excellent bow wood. Nathan, it may be a good time to look for about 3-5 acres near you to use and be able to expand operations. Adjacent would be wonderful but few neighbors like to sell.
@texasjetman
@texasjetman 10 ай бұрын
Stay Tuned he will be announcing that exciting news real soon. He’s giving a sneak preview on Patreon pages
@michaelleduc219
@michaelleduc219 10 ай бұрын
Yes, you will see sparks when cutting black locust with a chainsaw. Chains dull more quickly than with other woods. The stuff is hard and dense, but makes great firewood. There are large patches of it in our area (SE Michigan). Once a few trees get started, they completely take over an area by sending up shoots from their roots. The shoots need to be mowed down constantly or there will be a bunch more locust trees in a few years. I’ve never tried milling it into boards but there are companies that are promoting it as an alternative to Epay decking due to it’s density and rot resistance. It often grows crooked, so good saw logs are hard to find in the wild, but they are out there. If you were closer, I’d bring you a few logs. Take care…
@OutoftheWoods0623
@OutoftheWoods0623 10 ай бұрын
u2
@TheZigZiggy
@TheZigZiggy 10 ай бұрын
I've got lots of honey locusts. What are they good for (other than flat tires)?
@oldad6207
@oldad6207 10 ай бұрын
We used Hedge apple, also called locust posts and also called Osage Orange. The hardest and longest lasting fence post there is. If she seasons out before you use it, good luck driving a staple.
@KnowArt
@KnowArt 5 ай бұрын
absolutely my favorite tree! would love to saw it sometime
@bobmartin9518
@bobmartin9518 10 ай бұрын
HEDGE APPLE, Osage Orange, Horse Apple, Monkey Ball, Maclura Pomifera In northern Ohio we used Osage Orange, as others have mentioned, for fence posts and other posts. used as a fence post would Indeed, if planted, would start to grow. Strange chore on the farm go trim the new growth on the posts.
@Stan_in_Shelton_WA
@Stan_in_Shelton_WA 10 ай бұрын
In west Texas Bodark (Osage Orange) was used for fence posts, lasts many decades.
@OutoftheWoods0623
@OutoftheWoods0623 10 ай бұрын
Nice
@Ubotit_Unaymit
@Ubotit_Unaymit 10 ай бұрын
I made the mistake of using honey locust a few years ago because I was one post short and didn't want to make a trip back to town for one post. After only about 5 years, it had rotted to pulp at the ground. They smell good when they're blooming, but aren't good for much else.
@stevehicks8944
@stevehicks8944 10 ай бұрын
Except catching their thorns in your skin…..OUCH!
@tonyharison2058
@tonyharison2058 10 ай бұрын
Similar to elm, would be mostly used for internal joinery/furniture.
@richtomlinson7090
@richtomlinson7090 10 ай бұрын
Honey Locust is an interesting wood, but not for any rot resistance.
@torque9889
@torque9889 7 ай бұрын
Black locust grows all over here in Italy. Italians make honey from it which is delicious. And fry up the flowers in batter. I’m waiting for my wood mill so I can mill up some storm fallen ones for my bridge. Pine boards on it last about 5 years with tar (it’s over a waterfall) I figured black locust would probably be the best choice of boards.
@steveshoemaker6347
@steveshoemaker6347 10 ай бұрын
Thanks Nathan for all of your hard work both in the saw mill or editing videos so we can watch ❣👍 Old F-4 Phantom 2 Shoe🇺🇸
@texasjetman
@texasjetman 10 ай бұрын
Agreed 100%. F4 Phantom absolutely amazing aircraft with raw power like nothing else from that era in American aviation
@steveshoemaker6347
@steveshoemaker6347 10 ай бұрын
@@texasjetman IT was amazing to fly Shoe🇺🇸
@elliott4570
@elliott4570 10 ай бұрын
When I was growing up in Asheville, we had woods on 3 sides of our house, full of locust and tulip poplar trees… we called those thorny locust trees “tick” trees… because of those thorns, they must have been honey locusts…
@skapur
@skapur 10 ай бұрын
Boone is more mountainous than where you are. This is from the Wikipedia article on Black Locust: “In 1900, the value of Robinia pseudoacacia was reported to be practically destroyed in nearly all parts of the United States beyond the mountain forests which are its home by locust borers which riddle the trunk and branches. Were it not for these insects, it would be one of the most valuable timber trees that could be planted in the northern and middle states. Young trees grow quickly and vigorously for a number of years, but soon become stunted and diseased, and rarely live long enough to attain any commercial value.”
@RickP654
@RickP654 10 ай бұрын
Nathan, my dad told me, when I was just a kid back in the sixties, you had to get all the bark off them to help preventing rot. We had a swinging bridge about 300 feet long. It was made with a lot of locust polesfor the uprights and stringers to nail the floor to.
@summerfi
@summerfi 10 ай бұрын
Black locust has a lot of silica in it, at least in my area. It's hard on blades.
@frankmeyers7304
@frankmeyers7304 10 ай бұрын
Black locust has a peculiar odor when it burns. Also, the flames a blue and the fire is really hot.
@lennieroland1097
@lennieroland1097 10 ай бұрын
In Northern Illinois, a lot of the old time farmers grew Osage Orange in their fence rows for fence posts. They call it hedge. It is a very tough wood. It lasts a long time. The Osage Indians used the wood to make bowls. It was highly prized for this use. Traditional bow makes still seek it out to this day.
@sheldonwolfe8844
@sheldonwolfe8844 6 ай бұрын
iI grew up in Iowa and now live in souther missouri in both of these areas Hedge -Osage ornge are the go too for post
@N85C
@N85C 10 ай бұрын
Black locust heartwood is also naturally flourescent. The sapwood is not
@christopherchandler1261
@christopherchandler1261 10 ай бұрын
Back then Osage Orange was also used as fence posts and railroad ties.
@buildingbabuder
@buildingbabuder 10 ай бұрын
We use Black Locust all the time up here in Ohio! I love sawing it! Beautiful wood with many uses!
@fricknjeep
@fricknjeep 10 ай бұрын
hi there locus is hard to come by here as well , good show john
@OutoftheWoods0623
@OutoftheWoods0623 10 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@joerauhut9169
@joerauhut9169 10 ай бұрын
Awesome video my brother! Up here in northern Wisconsin we have an old fence line about a hundred years old made out of cedar .The posts finally rotted out at the bottom so I pounded in some steel fence posts along side of them .I wanted to pay homage to the old farmers who put them in by keeping their hard work alive by doing so. They still have the original barbed wire on them which is so cool🙂
@jimmychandler9328
@jimmychandler9328 10 ай бұрын
Around here in Oklahoma we have bois d'arc, some people call the horse apple or Osage orange, they are very rot resistant. They are used for fence post. the old timers say for a line post cut them two ax handles long for corner post cut them three ax handles long. I know it seems like the longer they are in the ground the harder they get. They make some pretty lumber too.
@deniscarter6613
@deniscarter6613 10 ай бұрын
Here in Ireland we use Oak Stakes and if there left to dry after you cut them you never get a nail or staple into them a lot of farmers predrill them first
@gkiferonhs
@gkiferonhs 10 ай бұрын
My grandpa talked about growing sweet gum trees specifically because they were prone to rot from the inside. He'd harvest 13-16 inch trees and use them for piping.
@texasjetman
@texasjetman 10 ай бұрын
That’s very interesting. All I remember about my grandfather was he loved to whittle wood. Sheer cropper in Alabama then a house painter on his bicycle with baskets. Lord I barely remember that. I was 8 when he passed
@richtomlinson7090
@richtomlinson7090 10 ай бұрын
Wooden underground pipes were used all over Albany NY from the start of development of that old city. They have dug up old ones, that were still a lot like hollow buried logs, and they weren't totally rotted away, after several hundred years.
@isomer13
@isomer13 10 ай бұрын
Black locust is my favorite timber. The grain can be spectacular. Fluoresces too.
@miken3260
@miken3260 10 ай бұрын
Ain’t no hardwood that ain’t good for firewood.
@jaymacgee_A_Bawbag_Blethering
@jaymacgee_A_Bawbag_Blethering 10 ай бұрын
Fantastic opening shot Nathan , I had to watch it twice before I realised how you’d got that shot - appreciated my friend and your creativity isn’t wasted on me 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
@OutoftheWoods0623
@OutoftheWoods0623 10 ай бұрын
Appreciate it
@grisslebear
@grisslebear 10 ай бұрын
Sparks off the blade sounds more like bodock than locust to me.
@jwdickinson643
@jwdickinson643 10 ай бұрын
well, fer bein’ a pain in the neck to cut cookies, you sure do a great job!
@derekbushnell1309
@derekbushnell1309 10 ай бұрын
Nathan. On a log like the one from the old pole barn. Do you have to do a really good going over looking for metal in it such as nails??
@rickrudd
@rickrudd 10 ай бұрын
I think he has a handheld wand he uses like a TSA Lumberjack.
@terrybrowning5791
@terrybrowning5791 10 ай бұрын
Im in southern indiana. I got a lot of black locust trees. How many do you need lol.
@troytreeguy
@troytreeguy 10 ай бұрын
Why won’t the slabs ever just play nice 😂❤
@benhancock1408
@benhancock1408 10 ай бұрын
Here in Iowa the farmers have used Hedge for fence posts for decades.
@davecrawford4418
@davecrawford4418 10 ай бұрын
I like to turn it on the wood lathe. Makes for nice bowls and such. Has some nice chatoyancy.
@philstocks7859
@philstocks7859 10 ай бұрын
For what it's worth: Osage orange will last longer as a fence post than black locust. If you are going to use it for posts, remember this. Use osage orange for posts only when they are fresh cut (green). If you wait until they are dry, the wood is so hard it's almost impossible to drive a staple into it.
@waddeym
@waddeym 10 ай бұрын
I was going to suggest the osage orange. There are a lot of them in middle Tennessee
@zevgoldman6769
@zevgoldman6769 10 ай бұрын
In SW Missouri Osage Orange is know as hedge. I have carved dried Hedge for a sculpture. It dulled every piece of powdered carving gear I had, but it produced a nice effect. You are correct that a staple cannot be driven into a dried post nor can a screw be driven into one without being proceeded by a pilot hole.
@rickdespain5363
@rickdespain5363 10 ай бұрын
Osage orange and black locust are in the same family we don't have Osage orange here in western Idaho but we have lots of black locust great fence posts if you can drive a staple in .
@philstocks7859
@philstocks7859 10 ай бұрын
@rickdespain5363 For what it's worth from an old-time forestry major. Osage orange and black locust are not in the same family. Osage orange - maclura pomifera, family - moraceae (mulberry family) Black locust - robinia pseudoacacia, fabaceae (pea family) Both used correctly make very long-lasting fence posts.
@texasjetman
@texasjetman 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for clarifying that I was not familiar with that wood but lord yes Hedge we had that all over Southern Iowa Northern Missouri and yes you can’t drive a nail in without pre drilling for sure
@SquirrelDogsAmerica
@SquirrelDogsAmerica 10 ай бұрын
I like watching you,, you are interesting to watch,,, but you don't now shit about locusts,,,😅 hahaha 😂🤣😂🤣 but keep the good work,,,, nice equipment,,, Nice 👍 set up,,I'll be watching
@OutoftheWoods0623
@OutoftheWoods0623 10 ай бұрын
what did I get wrong? All that information came out of my forestry handbook,
@SquirrelDogsAmerica
@SquirrelDogsAmerica 10 ай бұрын
@@OutoftheWoods0623thanks for responding,,,, you are going to be hard press to find a perfect log,, because of the way they grow,,, they grow twisted,, even if they are straight,,,, that is what causes the voids,,that causes the rots,,, that invites the ants,bees and other critters,,,,,, that's is why you don't see very many sawed post in a 50 year old fence,,,, the old timer used axes and wedges to split post and rails,,,,so they could the grain,,,so it would stay closer to the same thickness,,, even though it was twisted,,,,,, still use for a fence Post,,,, but if they a sawmill like you have,,,, you bet your sweet ass they would have been using no axe,, hahaha 🤣 that's how they grow around here,,,I'm about 2 hour south of you,,,,,,, and as for fire wood,,its good,,if you mix it,,,,,a neighber told me one time ,,,,he loaded up his woodstove ,,, and he had to set up with it all night,,,,with a bucket of water,,,trying to put it out,,,he said the was glow red and you could just about see threw the stove and pipe,,,,,i watch your channel a lot,,,and learn something every time,,,,as you can i really dont have much to say,,,,keep kicking out videos my friend
@SquirrelDogsAmerica
@SquirrelDogsAmerica 10 ай бұрын
I'm not sure ,,, but I would not doubt,,,, I've seen some old fences,,,when my family was run out of cades cove,,, my great uncles fenced in a hundred and fifty acres,,,,and it's still standing,,,, but I don't know what has been replaced,,,,, and I've not been over there he passed away,,,new owners
@jamesjamesd9556
@jamesjamesd9556 10 ай бұрын
50 years ago I helped my dad cut a grove of black locust trees and split them into fence posts. He's gone on now but I do believe a few of those posts are still standing. Here in northeast Mississippi locust and sassafras are native but neither grows to the size of a saw log, at least none I've ever seen. Cedar, or Juniper for the purists, are abundant and can grow quite large if allowed. Incidentally, that species was my dad's second favorite for fence posts because it is relatively easy to work and lasts fairly well.
@AG-cc1mg
@AG-cc1mg 10 ай бұрын
I see Nathan, has found his tape Measure and leather holder
@UphillbothwaysTN
@UphillbothwaysTN 10 ай бұрын
You probably familiar but Eustace Conway at The Turtle Island Preserve. Very interesting fellow. Any way he’s not far into North Carolina. I’ve seen him harvest several locust logs from his property. Possible opportunity for both. Looks like 89 miles from you. My Granddad wouldn’t use locust for firewood. He said too much creosote.
@robertdobbs2283
@robertdobbs2283 4 ай бұрын
Excellent firewood. In Southern NY I'm surrounded by acres of dead or dying locust. I'm told that the poor soil conditions resulted in slow growth. Farmers planted the locust back in 1940 to 60s and they are still only 8 to 10 inches in diameter. Many standing with all of the bark dropped off.
@keza3250
@keza3250 10 ай бұрын
The best wood in the world is AUSTRALIAN YELLOW BOX, ITS A EUCALYPTUS TIMBER THAT LASTS OVER 200YEARS IN AUSTRALIA WE HAVE FURNITURE AND HOUSING BUILT OUT OF IT, ITS ONE OF THE HARDEST TIMBERS KNOWN TO MAN,HARDER THAN ANY TIMBER IN NORTH AMERICA AND GET THOUSANDS OF FLOWERS AT FLOWERING TIME GREAT FOR HONEY PRODUCTION TOO IF YOU HAVE SOME LAND I SUGGEST PLANTING A GROVE OF THEM BLOODY GREAT TREE
@cabinman
@cabinman 10 ай бұрын
For all the Osage orange comments TN has areas with it mostly central TN and it is extremely hard and rot resistant. I have a lot of black locust on my property and most of it is in good health. I harvested one for the lumber and it cut well while it was green but after I dried it, it would eat through some planer blades. Best to use a sander planer. It turned out some beautiful counter tops for my cabin. I believe the condition of the wood has a lot to do with wind damage to the tree. I had perfect lumber in my log until about 30 feet up where a limb had been presumably ripped off by a fallen tree or wind…then there was rot in the trunk there. In the old days the pioneers worked with virgin forests and the trees were in better shape and tight grain.
@foragefarmer1300
@foragefarmer1300 10 ай бұрын
Damaging Agents- Black locust is severely damaged by insects and disease, probably more than any other eastern hardwood species. Ubiquitous attacks by the locust borer (Megcallene robiniae) and by the heart rot fungi Phellinus rimosus or Polyporus robiniophilus make growing black locust for timber production impractical. Locust borer larvae construct feeding tunnels throughout the wood, and the holes serve as entry points for heart rot fungi that cause extensive wood decay.
@Fireworxs2012
@Fireworxs2012 10 ай бұрын
*I think you should do yourself and the rest of Us a favor and stop making these terribly difficult videos...Just think of all the Bandwidth you'll save* 🙄🙄
@catshepherd3102
@catshepherd3102 10 ай бұрын
I dig cookies. They make floors with them too, I’d love to do that.
@lautburns4829
@lautburns4829 2 ай бұрын
Our fence posts were always Locust. Somewhere between 1860 and 1900 the fences were installed on our farm . Just a few still standing now.
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