PIP reviews explained

Recording of our online benefits info session on the 13.10.2022, providing information about PIP reviews. Facilitated by Ellie, one of our benefits advisers.

[@omviuvenitlalumina]

after the appeal, the judges require formal complaint for negligence and causing unnecessary appel

[@my_wikkle_pony]

I was advised by my care coordinator and work coach at the job centre to say what you are like on your worst days, dont lie but exaggerate and put emphasis on things like negative symptoms. Ive heard horror stories of people loosing their money.

[@majorpygge-phartt2643]

Some of us can't even visit a jobcentre because of all the appalling NOISE in such a place, they're just like rowdy hell-hole pubs!

[@majorpygge-phartt2643]

I've seen the p.i.p. interview process first hand and it's absolutely APPALLING! Right from the start like when I first phoned up the office that deals with it the woman at the other end talked and acted just like some kind of robot and wouldn't even try and be remotely human, and the so-called "health professional" who interviewed me just sat there and took a quick casual glance at one thing after another and made a totally WRONG assumption in each case, something which became obvious when I saw the report which was FULL of total cock-ups and totally wrong conclusions and appalling errors etc. but the stupid decision maker at the dwp just wouldn't be told, and their decisions have to be proper informed decisions but they just didn't want to know and would only believe the total CRAP in the report as if it was Gospel truth. And that's what they do at p.i.p. "assessments", they just sit there and make one totally wrong assumption after another which only leads to a report full of totally wrong conclusions. And the person who interviewed me wasn't even properly qualified which I know because one of the company staff actually told me that they didn't have anyone qualified to know about anyone disabled like me, so how could they carry out an even remotely accurate assessment?! The dwp think that "one method fits all" when of course it doesn't as there's absolutely no way anyone can even begin to accurately judge my whole life from what they see in the space of an hour or less in an office, to properly assess me someone would have to live with me for months and see all the appalling things that constantly happen to me, but of course that is way too impractical, not to mention way too invasive, and expensive etc. so their method does NOT work for anyone like me suffering with multiple life RUINING hidden disorders. And it looks like the dwp just won't recognise any kind of disorder beyond the far too narrow range that they know. So I took them to tribunal and humiliated their representative and stunned him into silence all in front of the judge. So when you go for "assessment" insist on seeing what they've written BEFORE you leave and make sure it gets corrected there and then, INSIST on it and don't take no for an answer, and do remind them that they CANNOT possibly judge your whole life from what they see there in that room, not if it's all hidden from view and not so obvious, and you can't replicate or demonstrate everything right there and then as they expect so they therefore cannot carry out an accurate assessment, no WAY, so the whole process is a total farce.

[@florancebella4366]

My rec onsilation mob pip stopped they noot menttion myyy doctors evidence and mmy health ability to hold things hand arthritis me severchronic fatigue stops me doing. Any day things icanoott follow any journey alone or on mobilit I canot stand anytime without pain causing outburst pain lleg gives way they didn't mention my GPS letter asking to return my scooter asi can't walk ant y stage I'm shaking poss mini stroke had scans arthritis crippled me can't hold anything don't have strength or feel at times drop things if i get help stand if I go award. Nno feeling in toe iballlece I fall somany times I can't walk unaided at all I've fallen over so many times I need mob back were I can have some king of life out side my bed I'm so much pain always daily I'm bedded or like zombie meds can't ficus do anything bedded everyday only out aided with someone mobile xnaity is too much I canot cope with outside or. People around me scared attacked again need help know.. thanks wrten on behalf of Sandra sherriff

[@florancebella4366]

Ps I canot help or make meals difficult wen hands arthritis struggle to hold things special cup to hold constant pain think or arrange things issues impossible. 4yrs ago since I was able to walk little bit now I can't pains in legs back all over have fibomyagia chronic sever fatigue axiaty hit roof stops me foe wanting if I could would not can't go out alone or live someone opoinmeents only don't communicate other than my family doc .Sandra sherriff written by her son and older sister Ann

[@nikkimckay860]

I have just come across this video because I have just applied for independence payments pip and I have my health assessment phone call and I'm feeling anxious and overwhelmed about the call your video is very helpful thank you

[@salvadorlloret-farina8767]

Im afraid that there are severalo in built problems with the review system. Not least is that the how your disability affects you questionnaire is the same as when you submitted your original claim. If your answers take into account the mitigations which your current award is paying for, (as in using PIP for the purpose its designed) You will score less because you are mitigating the effects of your challenges. Worse if you went to tribunal over the Health Care Professional's report and the Tribunal re-wrote and superseded it with a corrected one, the Review assessor WILL NOT SEE THE TRIBUNAL'S REPORT BY DEFAULT. They will receive the original incorrect report as part of their medical information bundle. Do not be surprised if the errors which you have previously and successfully challenged at Tribunal appear once again. This is because Tribunals are classed as Administrative and not medical even if the subject matter that the tribunal looks at is medical in nature. Therefore it wont be sent to a third party due to GDPR rules, even though by sending out of date and incorrect med info they are breaching GDPR themselves... Please make sure you submit the tribunal paperwork (not just the decision letter but the whole bundle) to the Assessor to avoid having to go through the darn thing again.

[@flirtygirl2569]

I THOUGHT A REVIEW WAS TO ASK IF THERE WERE ANY CHANGES NOT BASICALLY FILL IT OUT LIKE YOUR FULL FORM . WHAT IF THERES NO CHANGES TO CONDITIONS OR ACTIONS ?.

[@asadzeethree2726]

The review from is not as complicated as the original claim form when you first applied. You should be okay, but do try to send letters from your doctor explaining your current situation with your review form. Also, any other documents you have as evidence explaining your situation like from therapists of support workers. All the best 👍

[@omarabdullah6963]

Hi im baised in Sheffield and i think i have conditions and claim , do you help for filling the application? If so whats the cost , please replay with information, regards

[@sheffieldmefibromyalgiagroup]

Hello, we support members of our charity with their benefits applications for free. However, membership is £12 per year, but this includes benefits and social care advice and support, a range of free creative and wellbeing activities, social events and meet-ups and a peer-support in a private Facebook group. You can find out about becoming a member here: www.sheffieldmegroup.co.uk/get-involved

[@sophiamyles7798]

I recently had a review and got a text saying your review is complete and will have a decision Letter within 2 weeks does this mean they have made a decision

[@asadzeethree2726]

I believe so. The letter you'll receive will state what your outcome is. I truly hope you get what you deserve. If you feel it's not a fair decision then be sure to challenge it. I hope you have the support you need (If it comes to that). But I do hope that's something which you don't have to go through and you're happy with the decision. All the best.👍💯🌟💚

[@florancebella4366]

My pip appeal is late I'm desperate freKing out I lose my mob I'm house bound now

[@florancebella4366]

I need 24 7 care

[@asadzeethree2726]

@@florancebella4366. Phone their number and ask them if there is any update on your appeal. If you can't make the call then ask someone in your network of support to call them for you! In the meantime, try not to worry too much! All the best 👍

[@pinky-ud1rt]

​​@@florancebella4366 iv had 2 messages about my reveiw then a message i may need to see a docter...but heard nothing im dreding it

[@MFobe]

I had tribunal win August 2020 award ends jan..2024 But I've just got review form🤔 today.

[@Charlie-ly9kp]

Got mine today - mine ends in May 24 weirdly

[@Fatpig-fq3vb]

Got mine ends April 24

[@ladylee1979]

this is no longer correct the forms have changed there is no break down per question all it says now is preparing food you need prompting then eating/drinking you need prompting thats it,they also make it clear your payments will continue until a decision is made

[@tingerisi]

If you are on a enhanced rate for both and you nothing has changed on review.Can you challenge them for reducing or declining ? like they believed you three years ago but not know why if nothing has changed.

[@azankan6734]

I just got My review assesment although i sent my review form 18 months ago if i get awarded higher rates will it be backdated to when they received my review form?

[@dannybailey9615]

That's quite a long time I just got my review forms and am quite anxious about how long I will be waiting as I'm sure they will end my pip claim

[@azankan6734]

@@dannybailey9615 Hi i had my assesment last tuesday it was mostly done paper based i had a call from the assesment centre but they just wanted to confirm a few details the nurse assesment centre nurse i spoke with was very nice and understanding and the pip caseworker was extreamly helpful and kept me updated through out the hole thing and Today i received the results of my assesment via phone call and i was awarded the highest on both daily and mobility i previously had standard daily and higher mobility and they backdated it to 2021 so i also got awarded approx £2500 in backdated money (thank god !) but the whole experience has been better than last time and i thought they would end mine they did last time i had to go to tribunal

[@dannybailey9615]

That's good news then. I think it's taking longer to hear back from them because of the back log due to covid

[@azankan6734]

@@dannybailey9615 Yes some people wait 2 years for an assesment

[@dannybailey9615]

It's confusing the whole process on whether they make a decision when they read the review forms or call you in for a face to face assessment

[@seye8eyes]

When you send documents that saying your condition has become worse with proof of hospital records and documentation proof from Doctors surgery how come it takes full year and 6th months 2022 February. Is that not discrimination of equal rights and human rights Especially Disability rights

[@rog3833]

Its because they know your on the con mate. Any serious condition is seen promptly round here.

[@MaterLacrymarum]

@@rog3833 What's your problem, Rog? You know nothing about this person and are making negative assumptions. Grow up!

[@majorpygge-phartt2643]

@@MaterLacrymarum Dead right, get him told! Far too many keep making totally WRONG assumptions about me when they know NOTHING, and that includes far too many so-called "professionals".

[@skyechambers1968]

Mine took just 5 weeks 3 days.