Piper Arrow 180 Most detailed review with flight over 11,000ft | Easy to fly Complex airplane

[@craiglachman1379]

Last Christmas, my 17-year old daughter and I rented an Arrow to go from Denver to San Francisco. I no longer have my medical, so she flew PIC both ways. I was one proud papa!

[@aerolife1646]

What a great experience, thanks for sharing & watching.

[@ikefork2606]

Late to the party, but honestly.....your beautifully upgraded Piper Arrow 180 is absolutely sensational! It's upgraded and equipped with some of the best avionics on the market. With it's fuel efficient Lycoming IO-360 engine (overhauled by Penn Yan Aero), upgraded 3-blade Hartlzel CSP, this is a rock-solid, safe, and fuel efficient, SEL/complex airplane.

[@aerolife1646]

Thank you for the comment, this plane is definitely upgraded really well. Appreciate you watching.

[@FeltonZackery-gm8yl]

The most detailed review I’ve ever seen on KZbin.

[@amcconnell6730]

I instructed in PA28s in the '80s, so this was a bit of a nostalgia trip fo rme. :) The panels available in GA are amazing these days - better than the airbus I fly now. :D No more wondering how to fold the map, or leafing through four-inch thick books of approach plates.

[@aerolife1646]

The digital options are definitely easier to organize and also safer as long as you have proper back up options. Glad you enjoyed the video

[@MilitaryTalkGuy]

The arrow is probably the best complex trainer in aviation. The plane has no bad tendencies and for cherokee flyers is a natural. I've right seat flown one and since my plane at the time was a cherokee, it was about as easy as a complex plane could be. If only they were faster, I'd say they were the best plane for anyone. The slow speed though combined with the higher priced annuals means for many like me... the Cherokee made more sense. I will say though that arrow has one sweet looking paint job. Looks fantastic!

[@TheMilwaukieDan]

Incredible review that is more complete than I am sure the original sales person of Piper made. Thank you for such in-depth work.

[@aerolife1646]

Thank you for your comment, it is very appreciated.

[@SeanHorton-ky6ds]

Listen, I can remember back in nineteen seventy four, I was like eight years old, My dad is flying this aircraft. This is an amazing aircraft. If I'm not mistaken on the top speed.I believe it was like two hundred and ten miles per hour. He originally taught me how to fly at a young age, I couldn't land, But I was able to fly around in a One seventy two skylark. But I was always amazed with the Arrow.

[@mikemazzola6595]

Very well done, thank you. The reason I believe for the popularity of the Arrow as reflected in the high sales numbers compared to aircraft like the Commander is the Cherokee effect. Lots of pilots with either time in a Cherokee or ownership of one could transition to the Arrow with almost effortless ease after the complex endorsement. My first airplane was a Cherokee (but with time in Cessna and Piper aircraft). I now own an Arrow III (PA28R-201). It is every bit as easy to fly as reported in this review. I fly it cross country IFR mostly and it is a perfect IFR platform. Overall, simply a great airplane to own and operate.

[@aerolife1646]

Appreciate you sharing your experience, thank you

[@jeffwidmann2957]

I've got 120hrs in a PA-28R-200. By far my FAVORITE aircraft to fly! Your video is VERY nicely done! GOOD JOB. VERY enjoyable 😄😄😄😄!!!!!

[@aerolife1646]

The Arrow 200hp is a nice plane. Glad you enjoyed the video, thank you for watching.

[@BigBoysWorkshop]

I have NEVER heard ATC say "Perfect, I love that." lol

[@aerolife1646]

Now you have :) Usually ATC are great, helpful and friendly people.

[@c5back9]

Welcome to the MidWest USA. Folks are generally quite a bit more friendly here than what exists on the coasts. Heck, freeway motorists will routinely slow down to allow you room to change lanes and such. Try it sometime.

[@williambrinkman2937]

@@aerolife1646 13:43 😊 no

[@c5back9]

No idea how much this was listed for much less what it actually sold for, but from what I saw in this vid, it’s looks to be a true gem.

[@melvingonzalez6377]

Beatiful airplane, love the color. Excelent review, thanks.

[@aerolife1646]

You're welcome and thank you for watching and commenting.

[@charlespierce3647]

Used to fly the Arrow in my younger days. Great airplane.

[@aerolife1646]

It is a great plane.

[@BonanzaPilot]

I used to run my Archer 10.5-11.5 often. Super efficient up there and I was still able to do ~125 TAS.

[@robertshaver4432]

Best review that I've ever seen! Wonderful job!

[@aerolife1646]

I understand Andrew, we try to put index in our longer videos like this one so people can jump to areas they are interested in. To give such in depth knowledge takes quite a bit of time.

[@AClark-gs5gl]

By far my favorite reviews!

[@aerolife1646]

Thank you for the comment and watching our videos. Glad you like them.

[@kawikalamaku4843]

I ve been undecided which airplane to get and been researching a awhile for reviews. I must say yours is the most complete and professional one yet! Love the comparisons.Thank you Im definitely considering a piper arrow after your review!!!

[@flybouy11]

I had to use the override to hold the gear up since the engine quit. Keeping the gear up I was able to have more glide range. It gave more time to see if we could get some power back in the engine.I was with a student working on complex rating. I was able to get enough power to maintain altitude to get back to the home airport. A valve spring and 3 piston rings came out when we took it apart. It was well over its TBO. I had been telling the shop it was not putting out full power. We were over flat farm land so it had plenty of options. It was the 180 hp engine. It has a steep decent with gear down.

[@aerolife1646]

You handle the situation smartly and correctly. The shop should have checked the engine in detail especially when it's got high hours and you reported a noticeable lack of power. I personally would not have flown until it was checked out better but that is not always an option. Thank you for sharing your experience.

[@billybud9557]

That was very well done...............wow! I have flown an Arrow 200hp but never the 180....not much different. Your plane is awesome. Thanks for vid.

[@aerolife1646]

Thank you, appreciate the comment. The 200hp is very similar but the added power is nice in a plane like this.

[@paulmartos7730]

I flew the Arrow when it had "steam gauges" and earned both a Commercial ticket and an instrument rating. Very nice machine.

[@aerolife1646]

Thanks for sharing your experience with an Arrow. They are a nice platform to get ratings in.

[@matthewjensen9550]

It’s neat that your airplane still has the auto extension system in tact, one of the very last ones left! Most were removed long ago, which is a shame, because it’s a fantastic system.

[@flybouy11]

When your engine quits the landing gear drops and your decent rate increases a bunch. It happened to me with a student. To prevent that from happening you can override with a lever you can do to extend your glide range. Nursed it to home field and put it in shop.That was the last of that engine.

[@aerolife1646]

Thanks for sharing your experience with an Arrow. Glad to hear you were able to safely land at an airport.

[@lescolclough488]

brilliant video, very informative, loved it.

[@aerolife1646]

Appreciate your comment and watching the video.

[@antoniogoodgod9550]

I love piper arrow. Your explanation is really professional and it’s very instructive to all Arrow owners. Congrats. Thank you

[@aerolife1646]

Thank you for watching and your comment. glad you like the video

[@txkflier]

I flew a 1973 Cherokee Arrow II for about 200 hours back in 1975-77. It had a 200 HP IO-360, a 2-blade propeller, and air conditioning. It was great. The tab on the stabilator is an anti-servo tab which causes the pitch control force to increase as the stabilator is moved further from neutral..

[@aerolife1646]

Thank you for sharing and for the phrase and explanation of 'anti-servo tab'

[@michaelmchugh3987]

The Arrow was my favorite plane to fly. On landing once, with three indicator lights, one did not illuminate. Flew over tower and they visually confirmed down. Landed on grass field with wheels down O.K.

[@giovannipallavicini1781]

Extremely detailed! Excellent explation, ggod job. Cheers from Brazil!

[@aerolife1646]

Thank you very much for the comment and watching our video.

[@AlyssaM_InfoSec]

I appreciate this review. I recently got my private pilot certificate and I own a Cherokee 180. I'm currently working on getting checked out in the school's Arrow (200hp model) so I can get my complex endorsement and rent the Arrow when my Cherokee isn't available. Other than the gear and prop they are both super similar in flight characteristics and easy landing :) Also this was a pretty good explanation of that whole emergency gear extender.

[@aerolife1646]

Appreciate your comment. Glad you enjoyed the video and that it has helped you in your journey as a pilot. Thank you

[@matts4025]

That's amazing!!

[@andrewagner2035]

Kick the tyres, and light the fires.

[@ddthompson42]

Cleanest older Arrow I've seen. VERY nice plane, and excellent review!

[@aerolife1646]

Thank you, it was a well maintained plane.

[@silexpert1399]

IO360 B1E is bullet proof Had 180 arrow for 18 years Many aerodynamic modes include speed kits and lengthened wings with lights Loved the plane. Now lives in Canada 1000 hours or so Good description of plane

[@aerolife1646]

Thank you for sharing some info on the Arrow.

[@simpilot001]

What a paint job! Nice airplane and nice review :)

[@aerolife1646]

Thank you for watching the video and the comment. I like the paint scheme.

[@BlessedtoFly]

Started watching and thought “I’ve seen her before”. Then I said “hey I know that airport!” Bumped into you at the fuel pumps that evening the system was down couple months ago. Thanks for the help. I had the red and white Comanche. Very detailed video. Nice job. Scott Blessed to Fly

[@aerolife1646]

Hi again Scott, small world isn't it. You're welcome for the help, that's what being in the aviation community is all about. Thank you for the nice comment.

[@mikebell6513]

@@aerolife1646 Great review as always. Love the plane.

[@CaptainJCRage]

I would love to own this plane it is very clean and I love the way you reviewed it.

[@aerolife1646]

Thank you for the comment, it was a good plane. We just posted a review of a plane with similar performance, the Cardinal RG.

[@danielforde-pogson]

What an amazing video! Loved all the detail - even though I didn't even understand it all!!

[@aerolife1646]

Glad you liked the video. We try our best to make the video as understandable to all as we can while still including some technical details for those who like to learn them.

[@peterellison2220]

Love these reviews!

[@aerolife1646]

Thank you for watching the video and the comment. Glad you like it.

[@garyford4939]

@@aerolife1646 5

[@bernardanderson3758]

Very well equipped Panel for single pilot IFR cross country flight

[@aerolife1646]

You actually described the panel in the best possible way with few words.

[@Jason01st]

Love this, can’t believe this video is free

[@jeffreysmith6910]

IMPRESSIVELY detailed.

[@JohnDoe-we9yk]

Love to have you as my instructor 👍🙂

[@aerolife1646]

Thank you. We always like to share our knowledge with everyone.

[@JohnDoe-we9yk]

@@aerolife1646 knowledge multiplies when shared and you do make it easy, tk u so much. 👍👏🙂

[@aerolife1646]

​@@JohnDoe-we9yk That is true. You are welcome 🙂

[@Ann-eg7wh]

Great video!

[@aerolife1646]

Thank you, appreciate it.

[@cn9936]

You rock in reviews! Awesome plane!

[@aerolife1646]

Thanks for the complement. It is a nice plane.

[@synpse]

Hershey Bar, also made in Pennsylvania. just down the road from Lock Haven, PA.

[@ohgodwhat1]

I love your videos ! The detail is amazing

[@aerolife1646]

Thanks for the comment & watching our videos

[@WhoWouldWantThisName]

I really appreciate that they chose to have the gear fail to the down position. That should've been a standard practice in the industry IMHO.

[@aerolife1646]

It is a very simple process if it fails, I can understand it may have its limits in certain designs though.

[@muhammadsteinberg]

My experience with lycoming engines and POH is that the POH is wrong when it tells you full mixture below xyz altitude. Leaning regardless of altitude on taxi and non-movement minimizes fouling. I figured it out on my own, but later conversations with A&P's confirmed that that is what lycoming recommends you do.

[@hlemenviro3623]

The arrow was my first retractable way back in the mid 1970's

[@aerolife1646]

Thanks for sharing, enjoy hearing from people who have flown a model back when they were almost new.

[@idiOTytinflUnceRs]

Great review of the Piper. 👍

[@aerolife1646]

Thanks for the comment and watching the video.

[@tomthompson2362]

Gorgeous Airplane, beautifully Updated! Thanks for the Tour!!

[@aerolife1646]

You are welcome, thank you for watching and commenting

[@Bizones16]

Very well done ! I got my Instrument rating in a 1972 Cherokee Arrow 200 back in 1980.

[@aerolife1646]

Thank you, it is a very stable instrument platform with predictable handling.

[@Bizones16]

I forgot to mention that I am impressed by your Upgrades .

[@PilotLife215]

You sold me 😂. I’ll take it!

[@aerolife1646]

The Arrow is a great plane overall & this one was done beautifully. Thanks for watching and commenting.

[@kimskislalom]

Sold. What a sweat bird. Lucky you. No selling this aircraft to me. I want one. I am a student pilot.

[@thejimmybutler]

I love the level of detail you include on your videos. Once I'm in the market to purchase a used plane, I'll definitely be contacting AeroLife!

[@aerolife1646]

Appreciate the comment, thank you. Please consider signing up for our email notices when you are ready to purchase. www.aerolifeaviation.com/AlertSignUp

[@darrylday30]

Great vid. I’m currently looking for a cross country 4 place (3 adults + baggage + ifr). The comparison charts were very useful.

[@aerolife1646]

Thank you for the comment, I am glad the video was a help to you.

[@dennisnabors1948]

Appreciate your knowledge and work.

[@aerolife1646]

Thank you, appreciate you watching and commenting.

[@5xls]

Wow that's a nice panel. Loved flying the Arrow.

[@aerolife1646]

The panel is really nice on this one. Thanks

[@WhoWouldWantThisName]

Fabulous job on this video. Really thorough yet very nicely paced and not overly long in any areas. I'm guessing you've done this before, lol. Great plane too BTW.

[@aerolife1646]

Really appreciate the comment. We do have a channel with review videos of other planes as well. The Arrow was a really fun plane to fly.

[@SeanHorton-ky6ds]

I'm going to tell you guys something right now , okay, I have to. And I'll bet she is absolutely correct. But. In world war two which was many years ago, The fastest fire plane that we had at that point in time was f four u corsair, But it was with a four blade prop. I don't know.I just thought I would tell everybody this. That's a beautiful aircraft right there and she is one head of a pilot.

[@bernardanderson3758]

Great to see you giving us all the information about this Beautiful Aircraft and I appreciate your time

[@aerolife1646]

Thank you for taking your time to not only watch our videos but comment on them.

[@davidpringuer]

Beautiful aircraft, congratulations.

[@aerolife1646]

The Arrow is a beautiful plane. Thanks

[@dlawrengreen]

I learn so much watching your videos.

[@aerolife1646]

Glad the video helped. Thanks for watching.

[@robh4671]

The Piper arrow two was my favourite light aircraft...thanks for this excellent videos..

[@aerolife1646]

You are welcome and than you for watching

[@justicews]

I that was my Arrow that I sold a few years ago. Same prop, same colors, same red inlet cover. N 56174. I think it was bought by a guy in Kentucky.

[@Prachka1]

I am new to the aviation and stunned how smart people still haven’t figured this out. Change, or add to, that white landing light to a really good amber rally light. White light blinds the pilot in fog/snow and also creates a “bigger” visibility shield vs amber light.

[@Prachka1]

@@GWNHomestead why?

[@Prachka1]

@@GWNHomestead , I get it. Why front light that is supposed to make things visible is white though? Don’t they know any better? White light is the worst light in every inclimate weather? - rain, fog, snow? I mean, these aren’t supposed to be stupid people. Why white, instead of amber?

[@Prachka1]

@@GWNHomestead same FAA as yours, I am rookie here, when it comes to planes. I’ve landed a Cherokee, pa28, and a Cessna with the landing light on - I promise you that my Baja design amber fog lights on my vehicle would give greater visibility than the landing light on these planes. Naturally, light temperature, kelvin, and wave length, of an amber light is a lot better than the white/blueish light. Not only in bad weather, good weather as well. Still puzzling why a landing light is white though.

[@jimshaw899]

I flew one of these to ORD once. I enjoyed it much. The only issue was that the tower kept asking us to reduce our approach speed -- finally the gear started down by itself. I held it up with the manual override. All went just fine. But then, the tale goes sour. I landed and returned without a problem. But the next renter-pilot flew it somewhere, and on landing, the nose gear collapsed. Right away, the rental owner was pointing his finger at me, asking what I did to his airplane at O'hare? "We had a nice, soft landing, everything was on the numbers." "Well, I don't know what you did to it, but the nose gear collapsed on a landing a few minutes ago." Very, very fortunately, I had a passenger with me whom he phoned, and he told him it was a fine flight. Nothing untoward. No hard landing. The owner never apologized to me. I never flew one of his airplanes again or even spoke to him. But, I liked the Arrow.

[@aerolife1646]

Thanks for sharing your experience with the Arrow. The Arrow has 3 indicator lights that each light up green when they are down and locked in. It is possible that the next pilot landed the plane on the nose gear. It's always sad when something happens to any plane.

[@randypetit1290]

Nice review. Great plane, I own 13T which was made a day or two after this one.

[@aerolife1646]

Thank you, nice to find a sibling

[@scottbv04]

Awesome review. Currently in the process of joining a P28R partnership. Been looking for a review like this and glad I stumbled across it!! Thanks again!

[@aerolife1646]

Thank you Scott, enjoy your partnership in the Arrow.

[@tickedoffsheikh8587]

great video... like the sequencing of events and the awesome video angles...you obviously know how to make a movie 👍🇬🇾

[@aerolife1646]

Thank you for your comment and watching our videos. We have been working to make our videos better and provide good angles to see everything. Glad you enjoyed.

[@archerpiperii2690]

I got a Complex endorsement in an Arrow...wonderful airplane. And yes, things are different for pilots when we are on the ground. Peace.

[@aerolife1646]

They are a great plane to introduce a pilot to retractable gear. Thanks for watching.

[@garyag45]

I was lucky enough to get couple hundred hours in one of these aircraft, absolutely loved it. 😎🇺🇸👍

[@aerolife1646]

Thank you for sharing your experience.

[@patrickunderwood5662]

OBVIOUSLY that hatch is NOT for accessing the battery and hydraulics… it’s for stashing SKIIS 😃

[@aerolife1646]

Definitely would make packing for winter vacation easier!

[@frritter8253]

Super review! I spent instrument trng hours in a 180 Arrow - loved it. Really like your planes colors and three bladed prop. We liked the 180's ease of starting - and... it's what we had, ha.

[@aerolife1646]

Thank you for the comment. They are a nice, easy plane to fly.

[@alexyap7323]

Wow! Thanks for sharing.

[@aerolife1646]

You are welcome, thank you for watching.

[@flyingphobiahelp]

Many years in an Arrow-nice plane but tough to do a good landing with the Hershey bar wing. Also the seatbelts had a tendency to unlatch if one wore a bulky coat (in cold weather).

[@aerolife1646]

Just like with any plane, the landings do take some practice to find the best way to handle and flare. Thanks for sharing your experience

[@jeremyjett1979]

Great job as usual. Been in the market for an Arrow, just wish I could afford this one!

[@aerolife1646]

Thank you for watching the video and the comment. I think Arrow is a good choice. Wish you good luck with the search. If you like you can subscribe to our email list so you can get priority notifications for upcoming other planes. Link below www.aerolifeaviation.com/AlertSignUp

[@bernardanderson3758]

The PA-28R -180 is very economically less expensive than the PA-28R-200 that I got my Commercial Rating in but as for this one the price is right so now is the time to buy while the market is still looking good

[@aerolife1646]

Thanks Bernard for your detailed comment.

[@thomasgreen1688]

Great review. This type of review is so instrumental in marketing aircraft, more sellers should do the same. This particular aircraft is exceptional. I have quite a bit of Arrow time many years ago and its a very nice bird for the transition to complex and for shorter hops. I would for sure own one, and the panel in this aircraft is awesome, but at that money, there are aircraft that I personally would prefer over the Arrow. This one seems too nice to turn it into a trainer, but it does seem to me there aren't enough of these as trainers out there. Best of luck with the sale.

[@aerolife1646]

Thank you for watching the video. The Arrow are definitely nice planes. These are production model review videos, not sales video. It takes about 5 days and multiple people involved to create these videos. That is why you don’t see this level of video even for selling multi-million dollar aircraft. We do make sales videos for our planes which are on our website, not our KZbin channel.

[@thomasgreen1688]

@@aerolife1646 I see. Well they are nice videos for sure. 👍🏻

[@aerolife1646]

​@@thomasgreen1688 👍🏻

[@kmart1319]

Very nice plane and great video!

[@aerolife1646]

Thanks for watching and your comment.

[@ManofExcellence]

Amazing attention to detail in your video. Thanks

[@aerolife1646]

Thank you, appreciate the comment, glad you found it useful.

[@RossLougheed]

Your reviews just get better and better, narration and videography. Beautiful plane!

[@aerolife1646]

Thank you for continuing to watch our videos. We are doing our best to improve our videos each time.

[@Colin_Holloway]

Awesome review video of a great airplane! If only it had 2 doors... then it would be perfect! 😊

[@aerolife1646]

thank your for the comment and for watching the video

[@johnwarncke897]

This was a great video about Piper Arrow 180!

[@aerolife1646]

Thank you John, we appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment

[@vincentmolloy5660]

Great informative video. Thanks

[@aerolife1646]

Thank you, appreciate the comment

[@zerogravityaviation]

LOVE IT! thank you for so much details I learned today.

[@aerolife1646]

Glad to help, thank you for watching and commenting

[@michaelmchugh3987]

I had a battery fire in flight, smoke in the cabin. Radio out. Landed with tower lights. Landed safely Tampa.

[@tadbarker7082]

That was a great video. Very enjoyable to watch. Thanks for doing it 😀👍

[@aerolife1646]

Thanks for watching

[@markusheiss9484]

Perfect Video, very nice. Thanks!

[@davidsweidel8570]

Great video! You seem like you would be a great instructor. Are you an instructor? If so, where do you fly out of? I’m 70 now but have wanted to learn to fly for most of my life. Thanks for all the great information on this plane!

[@LostCanuck192]

21:30 are we just going to ignore the ashtray? 😂😂

[@georgetaylor4202]

Very informative...love the plane comparisons...thanks!

[@aerolife1646]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@matts4025]

Sheesh that's a beauty..

[@aerolife1646]

Thank you, appreciate the comment. It is a nicely done plane.

[@matts4025]

@@aerolife1646 It really is!

[@mikekoester8434]

Very good review more more . Thax. .

[@aerolife1646]

Thanks, we will definitely be working to make more in the future.

[@rino5453]

Thanks for the video! I'm about to get checked out in one this weekend. Good info on the airframe. I've flown Archers for a some time previously as well as C172s and Cardinal RGs.

[@aerolife1646]

Thank you for watching, hope you enjoyed your checkout and time flying the Arrow

[@patrickheneghan2794]

Very enjoyable..Excellently detailed review..Thank You.

[@aerolife1646]

Thank you Patrick, we are working to make them informative and also enjoyable which is hard to achieve but your comment is a good indication we are getting there.

[@SeanHorton-ky6ds]

Also theoretically the higher innovation you get the faster you get. Because there's less drag.Think about it guys. The higher you are the thin of the areas.

[@brokenspokes6731]

Great Review. Nice plane

[@aerolife1646]

Thank you for watching the video and the comment.

[@mr.mullerpaul1050]

Thank you so much.

[@aerolife1646]

You’re welcome, thanks for watching

[@desertdog185]

This is a very well done video. Thanks

[@aerolife1646]

Thank you, appreciate the comment

[@danielpiloto9837]

Olá falando do Brasil .Piper Arrow 180 muito bonito😀👍💚💛💙

[@CowboyStag]

Nice presentation

[@aerolife1646]

Thank you

[@johnfitzpatrick2469]

G,day from Sydney Australia. Very impressed, even like the tail number. Should have no problem with a quick sale. 🍏🌞

[@aerolife1646]

Thanks for watching.