I lost the recorded audio sound for this video, hence the wind noise you hear. Sorry about that. Hazard of the job!
@wencroom2 жыл бұрын
Doo Doo happens!
@TheJaymon19622 жыл бұрын
No worries
@dieselyeti2 жыл бұрын
Can't go wrong with a Cherokee 180 or Archer. Good IFR training platform and decent XC airplane for shorter trips. Btw Mike, that tail was down because the nose strut was extended a bit from being pulled out with the tow bar. Once you get inside the weight will get the nose to settle and it'll sit level. Also, that Cherokee isn't fuel injected so it's an O-360.
@buttcrack77844 ай бұрын
More likely the nose is high from climbing up onto the wing. Having owned Cherokee’s for decades I’ve often had this happen from climbing up on the wing, never once from using a tow bar. The tow bar hooks just above the front wheel, below the front strut, and can’t cause this problem.
@mamulcahy2 жыл бұрын
Mike, we used to call guys like you a self-made man. You’ve followed your instincts and passions. Bravo for a good life!
@weekendhack.whatsnext2 жыл бұрын
I have a 1969 Cherokee 180 and I can tell you that plane is not sitting normally. The front strut is close to fully extended and the main struts are almost completely compressed to give it that nose up attitude. You should be able to see about 4" of the gear struts on all wheels. I am not sure why it is that way but under normal circumstances those planes sits a lot more level that this one. The owner should check the gas charges on this aircraft. Landing with undercharged mains could cause some additional wear and tear.
@dennisnbrown8 ай бұрын
I love my Cherokee 180C. A few speed mods and a cruise prop and flies 130kt true. 500 hours in it and have been coast to coast. Great plane and cheap to own and fly. I burn 7.4 gal per hr in cruise at 9500.
@AG-qq3zl2 жыл бұрын
Trained in a 180, bought a Cherokee 140 with a 150hp Lycoming. Can't go wrong with any of the Cherokee, they all fly the same. Here is a small note: worked with an engineer at Beechcraft, back when Beech was developing a trainer aircraft they tore a Cherokee 180 apart. This is why the Sundowner has the same profile.
@spannaspinna2 жыл бұрын
Pity they didn’t put 200 hp in the musketeers lol
@peterandkodiak9762 Жыл бұрын
Your ability to enunciate clearly and explain aircraft components/avionics in greater detail is excellent. I'm a student pilot and looking forward to eventually purchasing an aircraft of this type. A+
@EdwardHefter2 жыл бұрын
What a difference a few years makes. My 1973 Cherokee 180 has the trim wheel down between the seats, all the gauges on the left side, and a nice wide baggage door. Still no fuel injected engine, though.
@brettmarquez5623 күн бұрын
I visited a flight school with the Piper pilotI. Though I’m new to aviation, I thought I was a high wing guy. Now I want a Piper. 🤷🏻♂️
@michaelmcginnis60952 жыл бұрын
Most of my training hours were in a Piper. Its a great plane for solos and takeoff and landings are smooth.If maintenance history is consistent and it has a secondary or auxiliary fuel pump, Cherokees and Warriors are both great planes to purchase in the pre-owned market.
@azcharlie20092 жыл бұрын
My first plane was a Cherokee 180, N7721N. I got my instrument rating in it, even with it's flaky glideslope receiver. The wife and I had a great time with it. But, I was fascinated by the taper wing. Had to have one. In 1985 I bought a 1979 Archer II, N2953U. It is really something special in ground affect. I still own it to this day.
@ryanfly57693 ай бұрын
Haha I just Bought N7721N no way it’s has a new 2022 engine and new paint job now a days
@AlvinTaylor-sk8bcАй бұрын
Looks like its forsale again @@ryanfly5769
@realnewsthatmatters93192 жыл бұрын
I'm currently training in a piper warrior II, right now. Seems like pretty much the same plane, except the trim wheel is on the floor between the seats, seems like every one you talk to did their training in a cessna, after watching this video, I feel a little better now about training in a piper, thanks for the video.
@dieselyeti2 жыл бұрын
I learned in a Piper and have instructed in Pipers & Cessnas. Both are good airplanes to learn in, although the struts on the Piper are a little more forgiving if you plonk it onto the runway when landing.
@realnewsthatmatters93192 жыл бұрын
@@dieselyeti That's good to know, especially considering the fact that I have not done my solo yet. I would like for my landings to be as smooth as possible.
@williamkumley51352 жыл бұрын
Great airplane. I learned in a Cherokee 140 and if I can find a Cherokee 180 that suits my needs and wallet I would jump at the opportunity to purchase it.
@falkescheibe28352 жыл бұрын
My all time favourite for x country with familie and friends. So nice to fly this old bird.
@caseymorton29122 жыл бұрын
Love this plane. Thanks for the thorough run down
@MarkSemsel2 жыл бұрын
I got my license in a Piper, and it’s a great and sturdy plane. Regarding the location of the trim, the planes I flew were built in the 70s, and the trim was on the floor, between the two front seats.
@wencroom2 жыл бұрын
I haven't flown (other than airline) since Feb 82 but I do have a fairly good amount of time in PA-28 180's. While you are most comfortable with the glass cockpit I would feel really comfortable with how that PA-28's panel was outfitted with the old "steam gauges".
@davidklassen28052 жыл бұрын
I trained in a plane just like that and I loved it. Can’t go wrong with that plane!
@PensacolaOboist2 жыл бұрын
Salivating... This is EXACTLY the plane my buy-in partner and I want! 140s are good but 180s are best!
@xjaker91x2 жыл бұрын
Great airplane! I had a 1967 and it was amazing. Good choice!
@josephwesley1191 Жыл бұрын
The Cherokee 180 is a sweet little bird. I trained in a Warrior, awesome airplane. I purchased a 1973 Cherokee with the 160hp STC, love it (I prefer the post 1970 throttle quadrant and trim position of the later Pipers). Warrior glides better but they are both nice planes. My Cherokee with the160 STC cruises at 100 knots to 120 knots depending on conditions and throttle percentage. Great little planes.
@jordanvraptor2 жыл бұрын
My dad would take me flying in the Cherokee many times. We even went to Oshkosh three times in it. I remember the trim crank and the brake handle very well. :)
@seth102612 жыл бұрын
I’m 6,0 tall and 225 lbs the plane fits me fine. The shoulders get a lil close but not a big deal. Great lil birds
@AlyssaM_InfoSec Жыл бұрын
So thankful to you for making this video. I didn't actually know of the Cherokee 180 until I saw this video while looking to buy a plane. Guess what I bought in August of last year :)
@GreatMichiganBushCo2 жыл бұрын
Love the channel Mojo! The Cherokee 180 is a great airplane and fills a lot of mission as you point out, but not all mission. I'm not taking that plane on a sandbar. ;-) think outside the box my friend and take your plane off the beaten path. Come out to Michigan and we will show you a good time!
@haraldweltzin51172 жыл бұрын
i owned a share in a 180 at one time. that low tail made it possible to land like a tail dragger and touch that rear skid to the ground in landing. My flight instructor insisted on hearing it touch that skid in order to pass my flight test when I got my license.
@todddembsky83212 жыл бұрын
Mike, the wind noise was overpowering, please get a cats tail muff for your mic.
@shopart14882 жыл бұрын
Loved my Cherokee 140 Fun plane to fly.
@thomasalexander25362 жыл бұрын
Nice review on a Cherokee. I had a 160 and at 6’2” I was fine. I am not skinny Even with an instructor we did fine. Good plane. I’d love to have one again. I’d fly it all over the place.
@dronepilot260rc2 жыл бұрын
I like the paint scheme on this one 😎🤙
@davechapman7735 Жыл бұрын
I started in NZ 1967 and all was round analogue dials complete with roof type elevator trim so I would feel quite at home but would be lost with glass. but that's progress . I did 195hrs but not flown since late 80's and at 78 that's about to change as I am plugged in for a dual flight soon! it will be interesting to try out my old skills once more. cheers for the vid it was very interesting and worth watching. cheers NZ
@gcvincent39897 ай бұрын
Got many hours in the 180 but boy do I love the 235.
@richardparrott71922 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Not a pilot but got behind the yoke of some Cherokees when I was kid a few times (adults would let you do that sort of thing years ago!); I love this plane! Hope it ends up in MSFS soon...
@Elmon112 жыл бұрын
I own a cherokee 140. I still have to think sometimes when using the overhead trim.
@garrygballard89142 жыл бұрын
Spent a lot of time around those when I was a kid.
@whit10mm722 ай бұрын
I had one. As soon as you crank it will come level.
@boogerwood2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps the most accurate description of the 180! Loved the video. You might want to consider a filter for your mic though.
@brettsouthall3572 жыл бұрын
Love my 67 180
@williamvasilakis9619 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely 💯 love your channel and the information you give. Thank you so much, I learned a lot. Keep it up.
@MichaelCarterShow2 жыл бұрын
That was very nice of the brother to let u showcase his plane. #salute to u both!!!!! & that sound @ 14:22 had me dyin lmao
@jamesrhodes14802 жыл бұрын
The 172 is the Toyota Corolla of the skies. The Cherokee is more fun, like a VW Jetta or Honda Civic of the skies.
@Darthmed05162 жыл бұрын
Love the 180! Thanks Mike!
@steveellington83132 жыл бұрын
Great video my favorite is the Warrior the trim wheel is on the floor between the seats and it has throttle lever mixture lever too
@rebuildrescue2 жыл бұрын
It looks like the front strut is about 3” too high at rest and the mains about 2-3” too low. Likely need seal kits, new fluid and recharged with nitrogen.
@mikenoel45692 жыл бұрын
Right, Piper designed it to have a flat fore-aft stance on the ground for the shortest take-off roll. The struts in this example need maintenance.
@Sircrashalot19937 ай бұрын
I need one!
@asdf123459292 жыл бұрын
Man these things really have exploded in value. Seems like they all go for like $70k plus now for basic vfr planes too that aren’t even in that great of condition. It’s crazy
@cardinaldriver2 жыл бұрын
Always check that the wing is seated properly within it's belly-pan by pushing wingtip fore and aft putting torsion on the entire wing and undercarriage assembly. It was shocking how many ppl were flying with affected Cherokees that you could literally wiggle the wing at it's root. The AD was a biggie! Off topic a little, I just wanted to comment on a JAW DROPPER of a Garmin setup you have. Right On!
@lashturner2 жыл бұрын
If I were to go back and complete getting my private pilot license I would be more comfortable using this aircraft as I trained in a Piper Cherokee 140 in 1974, but ran out of money. Now I maybe too old and may not pass the physical.
@seth102612 жыл бұрын
You don’t need a medical anymore. Drivers license and your good. You are limited to 2-3 passengers tho. No ifr either. Look up basic med.
@JS-ue5fp Жыл бұрын
Not now papa, 100k! Love your vids!
@robertfpv7733 Жыл бұрын
I did my discovery flight a couple days ago on may 18 in a similar looking plane. Was a bit tight inside the plane like. Shoulder to shoulder. I’m a big guy so ya. Was a great first experience would recommend trying a discovery flight. Got to experience moving the yoke / rudder peddles a bit :)
@Dick_Shinn2 жыл бұрын
This is a constant chord wing. Later models had a "taper" wing, which changed the characteristics on landing....better glide characteristics and tendency to "float" a bit more in ground affect.
@reyesben2 жыл бұрын
Yes , my hershey bar 180 floats as good as a hunk of marble
@chriskeller3705 Жыл бұрын
I really want to learn how to fly and get something like this some day
@scrapperstacker86292 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a great informative video.
@michellonergan85172 жыл бұрын
The sound and the wind oupsss
@sagecleveland39532 жыл бұрын
Would love to own something like this but I think my missions will be a little too long for this plane. Great video!
@othersv97582 жыл бұрын
I flew 79 hrs in this plane back in 1964 RVAC,
@jasonalpha2 жыл бұрын
Very thorough. Great video
@1dullgeek2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos but the wind noise on this one was a real distraction for me. I've trained in a Cherokee 180 and own a Cherokee 140, that I'm going to do my instrument and gain a couple hundred hours in before I retire. At which point, I'm seriously considering hitting up your dealership to help me build a sling tsi.
@delawarepilot2 жыл бұрын
Did my primary in the tomahawk but most commercial and instrument was done in the Cherokee.
@nmtaco86452 жыл бұрын
Ah the good ol Tomahawk...good plane to learn how to get out of a spin...i love the Cherokee, Warrior, Archer and the Saratoga. Miss flyin...need to start back up again.
@delawarepilot2 жыл бұрын
You and me both.
@MissedApproach2 жыл бұрын
The wind noice made the last 5 minutes unbearable. I could barely hear anything that was said. I'd suggest getting a cat tail for your mic.
@usertst Жыл бұрын
Great vid, convinced me ❤
@Michaelengelmann2 жыл бұрын
I’d love a pilot’s license. My uncle used to be, I forget what but something with air traffic control & he was the boss and when’s movie was made in Philly he was the consultant for all flying aircraft
@hotchilli25252 жыл бұрын
Great video 👌yes shame about the sound quality..I learnt in 152 then did a type rating in a PA 28 181 and wow what a difference. Keep them coming.
@philipgledhill72272 жыл бұрын
I buddy how's it going ok hope you are well buddy phil. Nice plane but I like the cirrus sr22t. Brilliant starter plane though. Phil.
@bobweyand53052 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@fuffoon Жыл бұрын
I wonder if it will ever be possible to make a family airplane with shoulder room. The one thing I don't like is the cramped side by side. I wonder if there could be a fuselage with lifting body principles to enlarge the cabin. I build competition models so I understand weight. I save grams where possible.
@Optimus-Prime-Rib2 жыл бұрын
Great vid as always but defo need to invest in a mic less susceptible to wind noise. It was quite bad.
@dominic62838 ай бұрын
That would be cool to get trim on a plane.
@Hawka-Loogy2 жыл бұрын
In pre buy, check entry door entry wing rib per AD. Most all PA-28s need a new right wing. Where do you think those are?
@maritestaylor84582 жыл бұрын
Awesome 😎 thanks
@ArmAmericaFTG Жыл бұрын
Not all Cherokees have the trim above the head. Some have the wheel in the center.
@captainviswanathan272510 ай бұрын
Lather models had the trim wheel positioned in the centre.l remember flying the P28/180 at the Singapore Flying Club in 1971.I have since retired.In the tropic its get very hot in the cockpit on tht ground.
@TheJaymon19622 жыл бұрын
Is the panel shroud off center of the windsreen or is that just an optical illusion? Great video!
@MrandMrsLivingLife2 жыл бұрын
This might be a silly question 🙋🏾♂️ are you allowed to have a stereo in the cockpit??😁
@mojogrip2 жыл бұрын
XM radio all day. But would you listen to that or ATC?
@MrandMrsLivingLife2 жыл бұрын
@@mojogrip ATC always. Would it hurt to jam out to 1 jay-Z song after you take off? Jokes aside, in your flying experience. Do ever get moments in your flight journey you think “ I should jam out to something “ ?
@mojogrip2 жыл бұрын
@@MrandMrsLivingLife I have when I didn't use flight following. But I've made an agreement with myself to use flight following always. I can listen to my music once I get back in the car.
@MrandMrsLivingLife2 жыл бұрын
@@mojogrip thank you 🙏🏾 that’s awesome sir, you are getting us into flying. Next year we start our training
@dennisnbrown8 ай бұрын
I rock out all the time. My com will lower the music when receiving radio transmissions
@MrShepardDog2 жыл бұрын
And the cherokee 140 is the PT Cruiser of the skies....
@kyletaylor6058 Жыл бұрын
I just bought a 1966 Cherokee 180 and that plane sits nothing like mine. That tail is a good 2’ lower than mine sits it looks like
@Autocross72 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget the 150, 151, and 161.
@user-kx4st7hr3i2 жыл бұрын
Mashallah you are a creative and diligent person. I loved you and love your work. I wish you had a job for free. I frankly love your work, I love flying, I love flying, and I love jumping on parachutes from the highest distances. Now I need to build a helicopter, but there is no enough plan to make it.
@gsp-greenstripepilot95082 жыл бұрын
Currently training in a piper after doing the first half in a 172. I am wide shouldered and tall. The piper is more uncomfortable to me
@TrainSounds Жыл бұрын
What about the 235?
@okhera12 жыл бұрын
Very Nice Bro. Get Good Pilots!
@Plainstreamer Жыл бұрын
Can anyone suggest plain option for 6”6 wide shoulder ?
@matts4025 Жыл бұрын
Who's flying with the seats all the way back?? You that tall bro??
@g0dofgriffins4692 жыл бұрын
Can you help me find a cheap sea plane that is under 85k? please and thank you.(preferably looking for a 4 seater)
@JXiong9999 Жыл бұрын
Do you still sell this one
@patrickhaye88822 жыл бұрын
Wonder why Lycoming hasn't worked to increase the TBO on the 360 engine
@kurtheimerman82672 жыл бұрын
Informative. Thank you!
@conservativeokie2 жыл бұрын
MojoMike… You really need a new mojo-mic! (See what I did there?) 😁👍🏼
@antoniog98142 жыл бұрын
All I heard was the wind rushing by the mic.
@piper04282 жыл бұрын
The camry of the skies. Just take out the 33 mpg!
@patrickhaye88822 жыл бұрын
If you give me a car with a hand crank starter I could eventually start it. I've done it while stationed in great Britain. I much prefer an electric starter. same with steam gauges.
@matts4025 Жыл бұрын
Wish they were 50k lol.. Found a decent one for $75k but ehhh
@bnelson313braveheart2 жыл бұрын
I like this plane. It seriously needs so glass upgrades though.
@onedelish2 жыл бұрын
HEY
@Michaelengelmann2 жыл бұрын
Idk much abt yt equipment but you need a mic & wins muff
@Musiqa212 жыл бұрын
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@togle1842 жыл бұрын
Way too much wind noise!
@JS-ue5fp2 жыл бұрын
More like 80k to 100k
@zulkiflyhjali51422 жыл бұрын
😎
@sammysam12572 жыл бұрын
Crashed in one of those on my first flight lesson. Killed my brother and practically crippled me and screwed bt insurance. Not a cherokee fan lol
@dennisnbrown8 ай бұрын
This wasn’t the plane’s fault most likely. It is a very safe platform
@2Phast4Rocket2 жыл бұрын
My main problem with the Cherokee is its slow speed. It takes forever for you to go places.
@tomnagel56349 ай бұрын
Compared to what? At 124kts cruise, I can fly mine from northern Ohio to Hilton Head in about 3 hours!
@2Phast4Rocket9 ай бұрын
@@tomnagel5634 hmm, compare to all non LSA Vans RV.
@tomnagel56349 ай бұрын
Well you got me there! Lol😅
@tomnagel56349 ай бұрын
Thought we were talking certificated aircraft
@2Phast4Rocket9 ай бұрын
@@tomnagel5634 I thought I was talking about airplane in general. you spend the same money going slow, which doesn't make any sense. I cruise 190mph or even faster if I burn more gas.