Pirelli Diablo Rosso IV - Review - Did I just Downgrade?

[@horrovac]

I'm on my second set. The first replaced the OEM Dunlop Sportmax that came with my CBR650R. It was immediately obvious that they were much better tyres. I didn't dare go very fast through the corners with the Dunlops, for one because I was scared of crashing a brand new bike, but also because I felt them slip, skip and slide at not terribly high speeds. Not that I thought they were unsafe, indeed they served me well, but it wasn't terribly confidence-inspiring. Pirelli would just stick to the road, and feel like on rails. You needed a lot to get them to give a bit - a bit of debris on the road or so - but they would just catch themselves and keep moving in the direction you pointed the thing in. I immediately felt much more confident to lean deeper into a corner than ever before. Certainly also a feature of their specific shape - they're built to be more like a V, instead of an U, giving you more contact surface when leaning than you get when upright. Also the edges of the tyres are much steeper, so you can lean farther without getting to the edge. Suddenly I had chicken strips again, and it took me a while to get them off XD. But the concept works. When on the Dunlops I felt I had to get my arse off the seat and hang off to stop it feeling sketchy, I can just stay on and go through, no problem. I loathe to think what speeds you would need to force you to start hanging off or dragging the knee. That's waaay out of my reach for now, and I won't be passing any corners at such speeds. At least not deliberately. Take this with a grain of salt - I'm not riding on tracks and I'm not very fast, I have had a looong pause until last year, and my experience with current breed of tyres encompasses just two types. But I love the Diablo Rosso IVs.

[@TheBucksBiker-lh2nm]

Thanks for the brilliant and very detailed comment mate… Just like you I found these tyres confidence inspiring from the start. Which considering I went from the much stickier Racetecs was a pleasant surprise… Actually a massive suprised at just how great these more road biased tyres are. My 1200rs has a lot of power but still felt great and I had no fear when giving it the ‘beans’ 😁 Regarding track-use; I’m unsure if I will keep these on for track days and might possibly get a pair of Supercorsa or Racetec for that… However I was burning through them badly on normal road use while never reaching their full potential… The only real difference I felt, as I mentioned in the video, was the Pirelli is a little slower when flicking the bike about at lower speeds. This though might be my perception.. Hope to see you on the road at some point mate… 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻

[@horrovac]

@@TheBucksBiker-lh2nm you're welcome, mate. It's really the least I can do,when someone makes a video with some real information in it, instead of shilling for this that or the other. Just trying to return the favour by providing useful information myself. So thank you. :)

[@TheBucksBiker-lh2nm]

@@horrovacI’ll post an update video when they get to ‘end of life’ with stats on just how long these amazing tyres last… I hope that update is many many many miles down the road ☺️

[@kristianwebster96]

I got Supercorsa SP V4 on my street triple because I wanted to try them I think I've done about 1k miles and they have about 3mm left. I think I'll either go for Rosso IV or the Metzler m9rr that I used to use

[@TheBucksBiker-lh2nm]

While Supercorsa’s are amazing tyres they don’t last long at all! The side profile of the Rossi IV is the same as a Supercorsa so unless you do track days all the time I would say they are a longer lasting option still with amazing performance… 🙂🤘🏻

[@SloboloboVFR]

Its amazing to me just how transformative different types of tyres are to a bikes handling and how once trust is lost with a tyres brand its not easily restored.

[@TheBucksBiker-lh2nm]

@@SloboloboVFR I was soooo worried about what I concidered to be a downgrade from my super sticky Racetecs!! Think it worked out good though. Now just to see how long they last!

[@colinplumb5152]

I use these on track days and they are great,look at what neevsey thinks about them. I was worried the same as you but the only doubt is in your mind.

[@TheBucksBiker-lh2nm]

Thanks for the comment mate… Since I made this video I’ve managed to do quite a few miles. All doubts I ever had has long gone! Fantastic tyres 😃

[@Dirty_Triumph_Rider]

Awesome video man. I've got rosso 4s on a new 765RS and think they're great for that bike glad to know they work well on the Speedy too, with a bit of luck should have one arriving soon 😊

[@TheBucksBiker-lh2nm]

The 765rs is an awesome machine… I think though that you will LOVE the extra power of the 1200rs! I hope that these tyres give me some decent milage…

[@Dirty_Triumph_Rider]

@TheBucksBiker-lh2nm yeah I certainly miss the torque my 1050 had, but I do enjoy riding the 765 like I stole it, it's a very fun machine!

[@leftymadrid]

Wow, what a hearty meal there. I mean the chips looked huge!😮 I could never have such a big meal while on a bike. Mainly because I wouldn't be able to fit in my leathers, and I would be knodding off into dream land which is not good at all! I'm in the market for some good tyres myself. I think that the (Pirelli diablo Rosso 4's) is the way to go. My other choice was the Power Cup Evo from Michelin... We'll see!! I particularly like a nice pace through the Twisties, and look for a good overall comfortable feel while riding, and the response of "handlebar to tyre steering" is my style of riding... Although my bike is a very (small superbike) in the Twisties it is a blast, it handles surprisingly well! I'm sure that running the Pirelli tyres will make the lean much safer. Though I've been pleasantly surprised so far with the factory Chinese tyres CST which handle quite well, only leaving 1/4 of an inch chicken strip in leans But yeah, the finishing touch on this motorcycle would be some good tyres for sure! Great volg! Safe riding ✌️

[@TheBucksBiker-lh2nm]

Thanks for the great comment... I really enjoyed reading it. It sounds like your style of, spirited twisty fun, riding is similar to mine. You need something that handles well, inspires confidence to lean, and not wear out at 2k. While not having tried the Power Cup Evo from Michelin I've heard good things about them... I've also heard from other riders that have tried both the Pirelli diablo Rosso 4's are a better choice but there's probably not much in it if you're not hitting the track.. My biggest problem is the power that the 1200 kicks out... At 125 Nm at 9,000 it eats through tyres like a hungry biker in a greasy spoon. Not sure what bike you have, but if it has less torque then these tryes should be absolutely everything you need with the added bonus of not wearing out in a few thousand miles...My biggest fear was losing confidence on a spirited ride.. However, as you saw in the video that was far from true. They are absolutely amazing even when leaning over! Of course I'm still to see how they would feel on a track day but I would be surprised if they didn't perform well (I'm not a track God). Mine have so far done 1k since changing them and I'm so far not seeing any wear at all... I don't hang around and my bike has a lot of power but I'm quite confident I'll get a lot more out of these than the track based Racetec RRs I previously used! I'll post an update on just how many miles I got out of em when it's time to change... One thing I didn't mention is that my previous tyres caused a few squeaky bum moments in the wet. These though fill me with confidence.. As for the pub and the food... Luckily we went for a good walk after to find the start of the Thames allowing me to walk some off...Otherwise I would have struggled getting back on the bike :D Thanks again for the comment and let me know what you choose and how you get on with them :)

[@chrisdik5311]

Pirreli diablo rosso 4 is the best sport tyre for road use. Is the sportiest of all without compromising the mileage. I have a bandit 1250s and I had the diablo rosso 2 and after that i had diablo rosso 3. Now the 4 is on another level. Everyone generation was good but the 4 is as close to a track tyre as it can be

[@TheBucksBiker-lh2nm]

I agree... It's quite incredible just how good these tyres are :)

[@simonsmale1645]

Great video. Just found your channel. I have had mine 12 months and love it! Does everything I want. Done track day also 12 day trip to Spain. Never thought I needed the Speed, but after 4 Street triples, I wanted a change and not going back. Im currently on the new Power 6. Got 2500 miles out of the rear. The front is still on 4mm, so I just purchased another rear. You seem to ride like me. May try the rosso 4 next or go back to the m9rr. I'm looking forward to watching you other videos if im not also sneaking out for milk 😂

[@TheBucksBiker-lh2nm]

@@simonsmale1645 thanks for the comment and glad you found me 😊🤘🏻 Before the 1200rs I had the 1050. When the 1200rs first came out I though, nah I don’t need that!! No way I could go back now!! Was spending a fortune on those brilliant, sticky, amazing Racetecs but was getting silly… I’ll keep you posted on how these Rosso 4s last! They perform really really well so far so hoping they will give me a few more miles! I do wonder though how they will perform on track and if I should get another pair of maybe Supercorsa or Racetecs just for that. I’ll find out after I’ve given these a bash round Cadwell 🤓

[@TheBucksBiker-lh2nm]

@@simonsmale1645 P.s Milk is important 😄

[@simonsmale1645]

@TheBucksBiker-lh2nm they'll be great on track. I used the oem Super Corsas when I did a track day. But I used S22s and M9rrs before and there great on track, so these are much the same. The only issue I found is wears the tyres badly on the right-hand side, I had a spare set of wheels for my Street, so I may look out for some for the Speed. Always get money back for them. Then put SC on them or leave your Rosso 4s on if the weather is bit crap. Unfortunately I expect you'll be looking 2500-3k on most tyres. Less you go for the roadtec 02 or road 6 but I worry won't grip enough for me 🤷‍♂️

[@TheBucksBiker-lh2nm]

@@simonsmale1645 Judging by my first test on the Rosso 4 I also believe these will be good enough for track... Can't justify another set of 'track' tyres right now but might be something to think about in the future. However, I will never need anything more than the Rosso 4s on the road.. Blown away by them! I really hope I get decent milage out of them or I'll go back to Racetec or SC. Second set of wheels are a great idea but that would have to wait due to the costs involved.

[@Drumming4rLife]

I´ve just gone through my first rear tyre on my Honda CB1000R and the tyre did a 5500km (3400 miles). I must even say that in the center of the tyre there was´t much theat left. Still wondering though how much you will get out of a rear tyre. 😊

[@TheBucksBiker-lh2nm]

@@Drumming4rLife I hope to get more than my Racetech… I haven’t had them that long and only done about a 700 miles but they so far seem still new. I’ll post an update when I finally need to change. Thanks for the comment 😊🤘🏻

[@northernlefty5412]

How do you think these compare to Battlaxe S23's? Have them on my M1000R and curious about trying rosso iv's next.

[@TheBucksBiker-lh2nm]

I have only tried the S21s on my Fireblade and I absolutely love them… The feeling though that I get with the Rosso’s are unbelievable though. I would recommend you give them a try next time you change..

[@alexgroezinger762]

How long do they last? Looking to find new tires for my new triumph Daytona 675 I just got. Still had the oem tires on it

[@TheBucksBiker-lh2nm]

I’ve only done 700 miles since the video was made so too early for me to say! However, my friend who also has the same Speed Triple 1200rs has about 3800 miles and still has some good tread left. On a 765 you should easily get that or more… 😊🤘🏻

[@alexgroezinger762]

@@TheBucksBiker-lh2nm how good is the grip, good and sticky? I was originally going to get some popular Dunlop q3+ tires but they discontinued the size tires that I need and was looking for and alternative and had a v profile and grip on the sides

[@TheBucksBiker-lh2nm]

@@alexgroezinger762 As mentioned in the video I felt no difference in grip between these and the super-sticky Racetec RRs which are of course Track Tyres! The only minimum difference I found was they very slightly less flickable on fast turns than the Track Based tyres I always used! Obviously the Speed has a lot more power and torque than the Daytona so these should also last a lot longer! I was worried about having less grip with these but no… You will love these even on an extreme lean angle. They are simply amazing and will 100% buy these again when mine finally need changing. 100% recommend these tyres 😊

[@alexgroezinger762]

@@TheBucksBiker-lh2nm thank you so much

[@BigBossinStyle]

I got a gen3 hayabusa running 400bhp and these tyres don’t let me down. Yes the mileage out of them isn’t amazing but that’s the price for sticking

[@TheBucksBiker-lh2nm]

@@BigBossinStyle That’s a lot of horsepower mate 😁

[@can_luigi]

I am planning to put them on a Gen3(slightly modded :) ) what is the mileage are you getting out of the rear tyre. Can you compare them with the S22s?

[@TheBucksBiker-lh2nm]

@@can_luigi I only had them on about a month! I will make an update video when it’s time to change. Hopefully will get a lot of fast and fun life out of them. I can’t compare to the S22s as I’ve only ever used the Racetec Ears on the Speed Triple. I have S21s on the Fireblade and love them but my initial impressions are that the Pirelli are better. Absolutely love and am seriously impressed with these tyres.

[@AshRowland]

Nice video mate, I'll have to get me a set for the FZR

[@TheBucksBiker-lh2nm]

@@AshRowland I think I might have made a good choice with these… I’ll enjoy finding out at, as ever, legal and responsible road speeds 😬 Real test though is how long they last… Updates coming in hopefully a long long time ☺️

[@rgthomson1]

i got two tyres for the price of one for my duke GT, Mitas sport and they are sticky, very sticky, im very happy with them

[@TheBucksBiker-lh2nm]

@@rgthomson1 get good milage out of them?

[@512460]

Great video. I always thought that the rossos where rounder up the top

[@TheBucksBiker-lh2nm]

Thanks mate... First time for me with these so don't know if previous versions were different. very very good tyres though :)

[@512460]

@@TheBucksBiker-lh2nm yeaa...choosing tyres is a hard one. Because it's not like you get to preview them you literally have no choice but to commit. And if you find you don't like them you just have to run them down until it's time to get another set. It's the same as helmets too. You can only test fitment however things like wind noise and wind buffering can only be tested after purchase however at this point you're stuck with it. And both tyres and helmets ain't cheap.

[@TheBucksBiker-lh2nm]

@@512460 you hit the nail right on the head… It’s really hard to commit to changing once you have something you like! And you’re right… They ain’t cheap at all 😅

[@brianglendenning1632]

I went from M7RR, then a few sets of Rosso III and now Rosso IV for my S1000R. I found the IVs a little quicker to tip in than the M7 and III, but a little more “squirrelly” (technical term) on a motorway with a cross wind. Not a huge issue just something you notice - the IVs prefer to be on the side. Never found any of the three tyres as lacking in grip for street use, with the M7s better in wet cruddy conditions (and guess the successor M9s more so).

[@512460]

@@brianglendenning1632 thanks your insight is greatly appreciated especially as I'm an s1000 owner myself

[@throttlehungry4821]

Are these better than s23s ?

[@TheBucksBiker-lh2nm]

@@throttlehungry4821 while I have not tried the SC23s I know a few that have… All have told me they are better with a greater sense of confidence. Tyre life should be about the same according to my friends who have tried both.

[@throttlehungry4821]

@@TheBucksBiker-lh2nm thanks for the reply.. but confidence in the sense of grip or handling? Cause i was on s22s and when i tried rosso 4s, i felt handling extremely light .. your thoughts?

[@TheBucksBiker-lh2nm]

@@throttlehungry4821 confidence in lean angle.. Regarding my experience I went from the track focussed Racetec RR to these and found the Pirelli actually slightly heavier when flicking from left to right on the twisties. Nothing to dissuade me though as they are brilliant.

[@yuliybeilin5038]

+++👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@K-so8gx]

Rosso corsa's are good on the road and track.

[@TheBucksBiker-lh2nm]

From what I’ve heard they are the best you can get….

[@K-so8gx]

@@TheBucksBiker-lh2nm really can't go wrong with the rosso corsa, be a couple of seconds off a supercorsa but still capable enough to have plenty of fun.

[@TheBucksBiker-lh2nm]

@@K-so8gxbut what sort of milage do they give? Trying to get a little more than the 2.5k I was getting out of my Racetec RRs.

[@K-so8gx]

@@TheBucksBiker-lh2nm unfortunately I think you want some thing that is hard to find, we have to trade grip with wear rate, the two compounds help but only so much.

[@K-so8gx]

@@TheBucksBiker-lh2nm continental race attack endurance are another good tyre.

[@blacklight4460]

Little straight roads ain't going to test nothing

[@TheBucksBiker-lh2nm]

So you’re saying you can’t test road tyres on a road? 🤣