PLANE CRASH in PHILADELPHIA was an ACCIDENT says NTSB

National transport safety board (ntsb) chairman Jennifer Homendy giving briefing on friday's Philadelphia plane crash.
#planecrash #philadelphia #unitedstates
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[@Chris_Wray]

So grateful when she repeats the questions.

[@RichRich1955]

She did that because we couldn't hear the question

[@Chris_Wray]

@ oh, I was wondering

[@paulshaw3053]

She is very professional. Her team will get the answers. ❤

[@stevegungel787]

For a full investigation, officials need to physically retrace the steps of the plane from its point of departure. Did some major piece of the plane fall off immediately after takeoff? A major piece of the puzzle may be lying in an area no one has been to.

[@ronkruchten5867]

I suppose it's possible but if a major part of the Leerjet had fallen off, the crew would have noticed instantly and called in a Mayday. But they went from "everythings good" to augered into nothingness in an instant.

[@brianw8963]

Accident or whatever, that thing was at full power. Explanation for that will be interesting . I’m just speculating that the maintenance records might also be concerning.

[@frankcastle5294]

Brian the plane was either in full power-on stall or pilot suffered from classic spatial disorientation from momentary instrument failure. Either way this was a pilot augering the jet into the ground at full power. Doubt it was suicide.

[@brianw8963]

@ I never mentioned suicide.

[@frankcastle5294]

@ never said you did

[@brianw8963]

@ 👍

[@markfehrenbach4204]

Think I'm going to hold my thoughts on these accidents until real information comes out instead of adding fuel to the fire with conspiracies.

[@journeywithnichole]

Don’t do that! I am all ears!

[@tanyawieczorek6603]

​@@journeywithnicholesame!

[@steffany000]

I thought people like us didn't exist anymore! Finally someone normal.

[@love2fly558]

I see nothing wrong with opining. IMO, they were in IMC (inside clouds) and the dive has the telltale signs of spatial disorientation. These Learjets are fast jets, designed by Lear with fighter jets in mind, so the accelerations induced in these jets can affect your inner ears.

[@nycedyce]

Get your news by digging. The military chopper is a case solved, with very ugly realities in tow. What we already know about this one is that the NTSB would rather say (2:55) it is an accident immediately rather than simply let the facts (which are none at all) determine the categorization of the loss of flight control. We do not have enough information to make any statement(s) of cause yet. That would take familiarity with truth and reasonable competency.

[@bs7424-t1s]

That "missile" had landing lights on clearly seen on many videos. No missiles have landing lights. It was a Learjet.

[@RobertPowellRN]

Loolk up the word description THE PLANE LOOKED LIKE A MISSLE FALLING

[@ИгорьСикорский-р4ч]

DEI hires all around

[@bs7424-t1s]

@@RobertPowellRN I'm aware, just reiterating to people claiming that this "could" have been an actual missile is a far reach.

[@forrestaustin7050]

@@bs7424-t1s not at all

[@neilkurzman4907]

@@ИгорьСикорский-р4ч With you, of course, as their leader

[@TitusFunk]

prayers to all!

[@wmp3346]

I only pray for one thing unfortunately there is nothing anyone can do now except grieve

[@ThrdWrldGrl]

Proof an accident can take place in a minute. R.I.P. ♥️

[@proudmumandgranny]

I think it was an accident. Something catastrophic happened so fast there was no time to act. 8 hope the investigation doesn't take to long. So the families can get some answers and closure. May the victims now rest in heaven's eternal peace ❤

[@memberrebmem-id5df]

Thank goodness we have some normal folks here!

[@xcalibertrekker6693]

If the pilots screwed up we want to know. If it was the owner of the aircraft negligence due to poor maintenance or checks we want to know that as well. You can't call everything an accident just because you don't know.

[@jc9240]

Welcome to the real adventures of life!.......You cannot predict when death and accidents occur, or when you think they should or should not happen! Unfortunately there are Conspiracy Theorists Experts and Specialist in their own minds who will never be satisfied that anything can ever occur like this unless it was Coordinated, Schemed, and Planned Strategically! SMH!!!

[@abcd60528]

Deep States planned

[@memberrebmem-id5df]

@@xcalibertrekker6693 unless it was AN ACCIDENT 🙄

[@bevonostro................]

An accident? Well duh. Stupid headline.

[@sallyprzybil2404]

Sabotage!

[@memberrebmem-id5df]

@@bevonostro................ oh my

[@lpr5269]

@@sallyprzybil2404 A medevac jet? Yeah that makes a lot of sense? Maybe someone was pissed off that they were going around trying to save people's lives. Not very likely. More likely a maintenance issue or problem with the oxygen tanks.

[@redbarchetta8782]

Why don't you LISTEN and LEARN what consists of that ACCIDENT.

[@uncletony6210]

@@lpr5269 a full-throttle-into-the-ground maintenance issue? ever seen that before?

[@jackjones9460]

How eerie that so many air crashes are happening in such a short period!

[@GH-oi2jf]

Not really. Small plane crashes happen all the time. They don't take a pause when an airliner crashes. They are independent, unless involved in an airliner crash.

[@jc9240]

Welcome to the real adventures of life!.......You cannot predict when death and accidents occur, or when you think they should or should not happen!

[@abcd60528]

Deep States planned

[@SherrieMonica]

Is a big conspiracy now? Ha ha ha!

[@WarThnderMudnen76]

I get the sentiment with two fatal accidents so close together and so publicized but speaking statistically worldwide it would barely qualify as an anomaly. The DC accident has been waiting to happen for decades because you probably shouldn't fly military VIP helicopters in overlapping routes with a busy airports restricted airspace and I'm guessing we will hear the other one was catastrophic failure due to improper maintenance. Private Mexican companies like the one that crashed have a bad track record with such things. Just a thought.

[@vickyandres6922]

The comments are so cruel. It was an accident. A very tragic accident.

[@memberrebmem-id5df]

Yay, someone with sense, bravo, whew was losing hope. 🫶🏻🙏🏼

[@ElaineBennettEmbraceYou]

Amen!

[@Doo_Doo_Patrol]

not till the facts are in, dorothy.

[@memberrebmem-id5df]

@@Doo_Doo_Patrol you dumb@$$ why dont you come here & look around then 🤨

[@jc9240]

Welcome to the real adventures of life!.......You cannot predict when death and accidents occur, or when you think they should or should not happen! Unfortunately there are Conspiracy Theorists who will never be satisfied that anything can ever occur like this unless it was Coordinated, Schemed, and Planned Strategically! SMH!!!

[@nycedyce]

Repost: What we already know about this one is that the NTSB would rather say (2:55) it is an accident immediately rather than simply let the facts (which are none at all) determine the categorization of the loss of flight control. We do not have enough information to make any statement(s) of cause yet. Or something like that. It requires a familiarity with truth and reasonable competency to use such phrasing.

[@MurraydeLues]

She is brilliant at this task. Hope she doesn't get pushed. Safety needs this sort of leader.

[@frankcastle5294]

hope you're kidding

[@MurraydeLues]

@frankcastle5294 no, why?

[@frankcastle5294]

@ She's nothing more than a talking head puppet. I live not far from the crash site...am I pilot for 51 years now...and know exactly how this crashed happened. If she was well briefed and had basic aeronautics understanding she would too and mention it as a preliminary finding. Got that Bub?

[@MurraydeLues]

@@frankcastle5294 ok put your exact answer here and when the final report comes out see how good you are. She is in charge of a multi discipline organization and is able to do the briefing in a professional manner. Clearly indicated no professional quals for the investigation. Watched here do the Dali incident. To lead an organization such as this effectively you need a clear precise mind to communicate to the general public what has and is happening.

[@frankcastle5294]

@ Terminal loss of spatial orientation due to complete instrument panel black-out...or terminal power-on stall while banking left to initiate roll-out program. Take your pick hotshot.

[@kellyappel3015]

I see the youtube "experts" are out in heavy number. Please explain, why this "missile" was accompanied with jet engine noise. Why this "missle" was moving much slower than the speed of an actual missile (video shows it)? Why would this "missile" have lights on it (seen in video)? Why the explosion was followed by the traditional black cloud of smoke which is the result of jet engine fuel burning? Why video shows debris from aircraft?

[@Puddingskin01]

It was a cleverly disguised missile. So well disguised in fact that it was mistaken for a Learjet.

[@memberrebmem-id5df]

Yep, so sick of the conspiracy theorists. Yes, it looked awful but common sense or simple google search shows you about momentum, weight, force etc.

[@CrashTestPilot]

Most if these "experts" wouldn't know a missile if it flew up their ass.

[@RobertPowellRN]

THE MISSLE DESCRIPTION WAS THAN . EVER HEAR OF SOMEONE USING A WORD TO DESCRIBE WHT THEY HADE SEEN . FFS GROW A FRONTAL LOBE

[@mixter7x7]

NOT claiming it was a missile BUT cruise missiles have turbine engines - sound - and run on jet fuel. J.S. However cruise missiles are about 18-24" in diameter while the 55 is about 7' in diameter -addressing the debris. Added - we owned a L55 and the sound from that crash was an aircraft - not a cruise missile. When the aircraft struck the ground - there was a big red / yellow flame of slow burning jet fuel. When a cruise missile hits the explosive blast / flash is white and very high velocity. Almost like a camera flash AND the shock wave breaks windows for miles. My guess at this point is the crew either got disoriented or had an instrument malfunction ( IFR ) , rolled over in the dark / rain / fog and never recovered.

[@kristensorensen2219]

What a unfortunate case.

[@mrmelmba]

Slight turn to the right. Slight turn to the left. It sounds like the mechanisms were jammed and not responding properly to commands that caused it to fishtail and plunge with the engines at full power. The plane was supposed to make a right turn, which failed. The pilot then attempted to turn left in order to determine if the control in this direction worked. The plane reacted like a stuck mechanism sudden sprang into action. Grease on gears is supposed to be washed off before new grease is applied. If this is not done, but grease is merely added, over time grease becomes sticky or waxlike resulting in a delayed response. A gear remains stuck for a moment then breaks loose. I am familiar with this concept from operating a printing press where timing is critical. There is also an instance in which a person pressed the trigger on a gun, nothing happened, so he assumed that it was not loaded, when a minute later it went off. There was also an instance in which the elevator gear in the tail of a plane was stuck.

[@xcalibertrekker6693]

It didn't crash like it was stalled. Came in like a ballistic missile.

[@mrmelmba]

@@xcalibertrekker6693 Yes, it came down with the engines at full power making it appear to be a missile. The plane seems to have fishtailed and plunged. I used the wrong term. I believe stall refers to when engine power is insufficient to keep the plane moving forward and it drops.

[@GraceAJK]

This is a really interesting comment. Thanks

Bad oxygen tank and an oxygen fire.

[@zvastian]

That "plane" dropped like a missile.

[@Notfiveo0]

Unfortunately I can’t believe anything this administration says.

[@Johnfisher12345]

Not as fast as your IQ dropped

[@rickholzwarth7902]

@@Notfiveo0It’s post 11-5. Trump is now POTUS. Biden is no longer installed. Believe.

[@ziggystardust7888]

Engine Stall ???

[@BLS2134]

@@Notfiveo0 and you trusted Joe Biden for 4 years and his administration

[@alvinstovall3243]

So Jennifer is one of the smartest the brightest genius that we will be trusting our lives with when we fly, I really feel so safe now.

[@BartT75]

'17 experts and me, also' 🤣

[@kellyanderson7624]

some idiots probably looted the crash site and took off with the voice recorder.

[@tanyawieczorek6603]

That occurred to me too, unfortunately

[@FLPhotoCatcher]

Those idiots could be official.

[@zachhoward9099]

No they found it today at the bottom of the impact crater was embedded into the earth under busted large chunks of asphalt so took them a little longer

[@neilkurzman4907]

Yes, some idiot Dug 8 feet into the ground found it and took it out. Oh wait no that was the NTSB.

[@wendell6468]

Folks, please be respectful in ur comments. It's easy to be negative but please stop and think before sending a bad comment. Thanks.

[@adamf663]

Wow, they didn't plan on crashing? Who would have thought that? Did they at least file a flight variation after hitting the ground?

[@GH-oi2jf]

Is this the briefing from Saturday?

[@Petercrossed]

Imagine having to hear this everytime there was a car accident.

[@mixter7x7]

It initially looked like the aircraft was on fire, but in fog the lights created the appearance of flames. The way the aircraft went into the ground - it's unlikely the CVR is intact. There were no coms beyond the pilot acknowledging departure information. I'm guessing the crew lost control somehow ( several ways ) rolled the aircraft over in the dark / rain / fog and couldn't recover.

[@charaps2608]

I really thought it was on fire too but have seen video with three lights (wingtips and center) in a straight line. Definitely no fire. Hard to imagine spatial disorientation literally within 30-45 seconds after takeoff ... I wonder how the hell it happened.

[@mixter7x7]

@@charaps2608 Several year ago there was a CRJ flying at altitude. The pilot PFD started indicating a climb. The pilot responded by pushing the nose down without cross checking the co pilot PFD or altimeter or the stand-by HSI. He almost lost it, but had enough altitude to recover. In this case whatever happened - there wasn't enough altitude to recover.

[@davidwilliams4498]

I tend to believe a leaking Oxygen tank caused that crash. Something sparkrd the blast in the cabin.

[@rolandgothburgh7708]

The flight data recorders during the Black Hawk incident were under water. With skilled divers knowing how to locate underwater. The black box on this aircraft was on the ground. And 90 minutes is a long time for that box to be laying around. They're designed to withstand an accident. A restaurant had shrapnel from the crash that went through the building. That gives you an idea how fast and how far debris travels. I'm not sure why she felt it necessary to mention the number of NTSB agents. I'm sure there is a large pool of law enforcement that could widen the search to help find the box.

[@frankcastle5294]

This freaking woman is unbearable.

[@jerrygunderson534]

Flight Data is avaiilable online, from different sources. The "55" is considered a very fast plane, which makes it a great "Air Ambulance" were time is valued. Data shows the plane was at full-throttle for it's 46 seconds of flight. Which is very little time to correct any errors..What happened, it happen quick...

[@Brian.Martin]

Something exploded on that plane!

[@Johnfisher12345]

Nope

[@michellesmith8912]

Right, it looked like it was on fire before crashing.

[@Azuciea]

@@michellesmith8912 I hope yall can do some self reflecting after this, but you wont.

[@deliabaquero3464]

Agree agree agree!!! That plane was already on fire

[@michellesmith8912]

@@Azuciea why are you saying that? Something could have exploded on the plane. So, perhaps you should do a search of yourself- pretty sure you won't.

[@charlesr.aliffjr.4050]

The angle of descent suggests the aircraft stalled during takeoff.

[@geoffnoyes520]

We are getting close to the stage where conspiracy theorists will be arriving at the scene minutes after the emergency services. ( Very sorry to hear about another tragic loss of life involveing an aircraft).

[@journeywithnichole]

Hopefully! So we can know the truth.

[@gefparx6442]

Sincerest condolences to all affected ? Has the passenger identities been published yet ?

[@PatrickKenneally-e1i]

BS

[@MannyL-g3m]

I don’t think this old plane had a “black box”. I will be surprised to hear that it did carry one.

[@merryfergie]

Hello news channel- The title of the video looks ridiculous in type-as a thumbnail

[@memberrebmem-id5df]

@@merryfergie who tf cares

[@jc9240]

Welcome to the real adventures of life!.......You cannot predict when death and accidents occur, or when you think they should or should not happen! Unfortunately there are Conspiracy Theorists Experts and Specialist in their own minds who will never be satisfied that anything can ever occur like this unless it was Coordinated, Schemed, and Planned Strategically! SMH!!!

[@TimothySullivan-b3z]

Why is it that no one has mentioned a right engine failure at rotation. Never done a V1 cut in a 55 but have in a 60. Check out the checklist for such an event. Would explain why the gear was still down and lights still on after 30 seconds of flight. Just a thought.

[@TheKimjo1001]

IS THE RECORDING GOING AROUND FAKE?

[@mauricejohnson6127]

Donald Trump =don't trust planes🤣

[@mmi16]

especially any plane owned by trump

[@jeffchandler7662]

I cannot believe the huge amount of NTSB investigators that sit at home on their keyboards !!!!!!!!

[@mfcobb1]

My initial thought is that there was a load shift. Was there a gurney onboard and it wasn't secured properly? On takeoff it rolled back causing the stall then when they pushed over it rolled forward and it became an unrecoverable nose dive. Just a speculation.

[@tanyawieczorek6603]

I'm sure they strap those down very securely.. and how heavy would a gurney with a small child be, anyway? My initial thought was possibly a faulty oxygen tank, explodes, takes out the plane's hydraulics at which point there's no recovery..

[@Rodmachoman45fr]

Was there equipment on board heavy enough to shift and cause a stall?..thats possible, depending on the weight. but the flight trajectory doesn't actually support that, in my opinion. The airplane climbed to, 1400 feet AGL and flew "level" before descending and coming down at a 60 degree angle to the ground. If the airplane was able to obtain a "level" attitude, then the weight shift theory doesn't work. Meaning, that if the pilot was able to level the airplane after climbing, which did happen, then why would he lower the nose to go down at only1400 feet above the ground? A stall can occur at any airspeed if the critical "angle of attack" is exceeded. However, I think this accident was caused by an explosion of an engine, which damaged or took out the control surfaces, or an explosion inside, possibly some sort of medical device that destroyed the control surfaces. My analysis is just my opinion based on the limited information currently available. I don't think this flight had a black box, therefore, based on the extensive damage of the aircraft, it is going to be difficult to determine the cause of this crash.. ( private, instrument, commercial, multi-engine rated pilot)

[@cherylk.2474]

I saw no evidence of an onboard explosion or aircraft fire from the 2 or 3 seconds I was able to view of the aircrafts descent to the ground. I didn't know they had been level at 1400 AGL. Was this an assigned altitude, or did they stop ascent for some unknown reason? How long had they held level at 1440 AGL? So many questions...

[@cherylk.2474]

@@tanyawieczorek6603 Yes, everything is supposed to be secure, just as an oxygen tank onboard should have passed inspection and not be faulty. I have not viewed every video of the aircraft's final descent, but on those ai have viewed, I did not see anything which would indicate an explosion. The possibility cannot be ruled out, however. I have flown many planes, and things break/malfunction. This is why I was paid so much money as a pilot. Sometimes things happen which are not covered by any checklist. This is why checklists get updated!

[@SHANECatLovinActivistHistorian]

maybe the word IMPACT should have been avoided here

[@daylight178]

Sounds like a possible flight control issue

[@xcalibertrekker6693]

Makes no sense unless the pilots failed to do proper checks.

[@daylight178]

exactly. Remember the Gulf Stream that went off the end of the runway at Hanscam Field Bedford in the Boston area a number of years ago? This is only one possibility

[@mikbella1]

​@xcalibertrekker6693 it does if you consider that it was an old plane. I read somewhere it was about 40 years old.

[@xcalibertrekker6693]

@@mikbella1 Read where? I know it was an all mx crew.

[@ssbrasco3896]

Maaaaaan it going to take years to find that black box if they can find it

[@JamesHenry-o8m]

Never received a response from the flight. Have to wonder what happened.....

[@Californiadreamin715]

Really...if you are being 💯 honest. . .what the 😊

[@leneanderthalien]

probably caused by lack of correct checklist and take of with locked controls (gust locks)

[@jenniferjennings8791]

Of course it was an accident. Why would the government admit any different? They wouldn’t.

[@sallyprzybil2404]

Sabotaged

[@wholewheatstingray]

​@@sallyprzybil2404Brainwashed

[@sallyprzybil2404]

@@wholewheatstingray yes you are!

[@John-ei9gg]

I like her, she's a great spokeswoman, and probably a good investigator.

[@AmyLeeAngelLove]

Don't be so gullible, people. Just because they said it was an accident doesn't mean that's the truth.

[@cherylk.2474]

You should become an aviation accident investigator. Of course, you will need to learn something about aviation...

[@maestrovso]

The fact she (the spokeswoman) already declared it an accident says enough. Why did she not left open the possibility it was an incident? Even if the crash was cause by structure or mechanical failure, often they are not accidents if reasonably preventable.

[@QueenAnaya-x7b]

@@maestrovso I certainly don’t trust the news 😒that would be a joke💯

[@angelicrealtor]

Blondie is clueless like the movie says!!

[@marlock6573]

Another armchair expert who knows better about what type of nomenclature should be used.

[@maestrovso]

@@marlock6573 Proper technical nomenclatures she has not. It was hard to watch her gave press conference with Boeing plane door plug fell off. She constantly said screws.

[@jc9240]

You can trust yourself all day, but it wont resolve anything or do anything for nobody....Welcome to the real adventures of life!.......You cannot predict when death and accidents occur, or when you think they should or should not happen! Unfortunately there are Conspiracy Theorists Experts and Specialist in their own minds who will never be satisfied that anything can ever occur like this unless it was Coordinated, Schemed, and Planned Strategically! SMH!!!.....

[@Azuciea]

To me it looked like the pilot avoided crashing into buildings and aimed purposefully for the road during the nose dive, saving multiple lives.

[@Cat-Natural-Law]

Nope the fireball had no visibility..

[@Luv70stunes]

Completely uncontrolled flight.

[@mikekemper9566]

Kinda doubt crew reacted at all.. was excellerating upon impact

[@stuntdrvr]

was "destroyed".. means no plans, no parts

[@Kimberliss42]

Somebody accidentally loaded a faulty oxygen tank?

Val U Jet flight 592 went down that way in the Everglades. An oxygen tank was not stored probably and they had a fire shortly after take off.

[@alllifematters]

I read that and empty oxygen tanks can explode too

[@RichRich1955]

NTSB has 436 personnel soon to be 4.36 personnel

[@MartinOReilly-mb4um]

They figured that out fast. Too fast.

[@EDouble1]

2 major collisions? Ok I guess if you hit the ground that's technically a "collision"

[@mason5540]

So, no information provided, haven't found the flight recorder, but they are sure it was an "accident". Got it

[@Doo_Doo_Patrol]

you can't classify it as an accident until you are sure that it was.

[@memberrebmem-id5df]

@@Doo_Doo_Patrol it freakin was was for the love of God STOP perpetuating this b.s

[@neilkurzman4907]

But you can classify it as some bizarre conspiracy theory. And then complain that they are wrong when they actually give you the real cause.

[@hollyjollydog]

O2 tanks

[@Johnfisher12345]

What about them? They aren’t the cause.

[@intractablemaskvpmGy]

That was my theory. Leave one on (happens all the time) after a transfer. Quickly fills cabin with O2 that has no smell and a spark from electrical device- as simple as plugging or unplugging a cord and boom

[@abcd60528]

Deep States planned

[@Authentik69]

Check this out right quick… Where did the American “Eagle” airline crash when the helicopter hit it the other day? The capital of the USA.. and what city just had another supposed plane crash? Philadelphia (Eagles).. and who uses an eagle to represent their country? USA.. This country is about to crash and this is how they warn yall, let’s just hope for the best but prepare for the worst 🙏🏽

[@doreenstokdijk8250]

Maybe

[@-757-]

Why does the 436 employees of NTSB also provide service accredited representative for foreign investigations? Doesn't that contradict the National part of NTSB?

[@gooodies4u1]

Because airlines fly internationally??????

[@wholewheatstingray]

No, our nation handles incoming and outgoing international flights.

[@cherylk.2474]

To obtain knowledge about accidents which could be used in the US to improve the safety of our aviation industry and community???? Or perhaps it is better to save money and to ignore an factual and useful information, or blame lack of DEI, or blame DEI, or blame martians.

[@bob80q]

You are beyond stupid

[@xuxito]

Not so much an accident but an actual revelation. On this plane there were 6 people who died and 1 person in their car. And it happened in Philadelphia. Revelation 3:7 7. “To the angel of the church in Philadelphia,* write this: And with the Reagan airport crash was also a Revelation. In this crash 67 people died. 6+7=13 Revelation 13:6-7 It opened its mouth to utter blasphemies against God, blaspheming his name and his dwelling and those who dwell in heaven. 7 It was also allowed to wage war against the holy ones and conquer them, and it was granted authority over every tribe, people, tongue, and nation. What does this mean? It means that the antichrist is here and the Church is about to be persecuted. It’s no coincidence that the Reagan crash happened with 2 Presidents who survived an attempted assassination and Revelation 13 mentions about the survival of the beasts attempted assassination.

[@taylorshelp5046]

How?...

[@jeanwilliams382]

Was it a drone sucked into the engine?

[@cherylk.2474]

Is it possible the hospital bed or a large oxygen tank was not sufficiently secured prior to take-off and after gear-up, during the climb, rolled far enough back to cause a momentary far aft CG, leading to an extreme pitch up, followed by a stall, which the pilots countered by pushing the nose down, probably adding power, as would be the normal procedure. But after the sudden pitch down, the loose equipment might have moved forward, again moving the CG, but this time to a far forward position, with enough force that it impacted the cockpit, forcing the pilots and the flight controls into full forward nose down position. Elevator surfaces might be insufficient to raise the nose, or the pilots could have become incapacitated due to the impact of the equipment, and the aircraft continued nose down, full power, which would produce the fight path seen on video. It takes 10 mins to speculate about the possible sequence of events, 15 mins to type it, but only about a minute for it to happen. RIP to all the deceased.

[@bob80q]

Stretchers are securely locked and the oxygen tanks aren’t big enough to cause damage or shift balance.

[@caseycreason8804]

@@bob80q You mean they are supposed to be.

[@Luv70stunes]

I agree with your hypothesis.

[@Californiadreamin715]

Wow I drank and forgot to take my meds too

[@TrippHartman]

What about the bodies? Did they get vaporized

[@ca-fl5he]

Old news from Saturday.

[@ziggystardust7888]

Engine Stall ???

[@josephpadula2283]

No engines were running ,

[@cherylk.2474]

They have 2 engines, and the pilots would have been trained to fly an aircraft after an engine failure.

[@Slide164]

No shit…it was an accident!

[@nrgfxfilms]

accident yeah sure , suspicious not reporting you having a problem with your plane 🧐 the way it came down is ver very suspicious . i was 3 blocks away

[@djfoxalaska]

Could this be similar to Korean Air Cargo 8509 in 1999?

[@aceball7076]

Too soon too to say it was a 'accident'. It could of been mechanical malfunction.

[@intractablemaskvpmGy]

A malfunction causes an "accident" or do you have other criteria we don't know about?

[@JLange642]

Which, by definition, is an accident!

[@Puddingskin01]

And when a mechanical malfunction happens, you have an accident...

[@memberrebmem-id5df]

​@@Puddingskin01😂👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@memberrebmem-id5df]

​@@JLange642👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@ziggystardust7888]

Communation to Piolet was Dead !!!😮

[@bob80q]

Are you capable of a coherent sentence????

[@lisaduffy821]

🙏🏽🙏🏿🙏🏾🙏🏻🙏🙏🏼

[@graememonie468]

Of course it was an accident. But what caused it?

[@seagram13]

THE ntsb chairman needs to go....

[@deliabaquero3464]

That plane was on fire.. all videos show it so

[@memberrebmem-id5df]

Not really, lights

[@FrancesH.-hv8uo]

They sure are quick to call it an accident, now they intend to move the wreckage in order to investigate?????

[@malcolmcossar6447]

Because it was an accident! Is that so hard for you to comprehend?

[@AmyLeeAngelLove]

@@malcolmcossar6447 You're so gullible. You believe whatever anyone tells you.

[@malcolmcossar6447]

@@FrancesH.-hv8uo Yeah that's right it was a Chinese missile that took it out. I get better things to do on a Sunday than having a conversation about this subject with you. I usually say have a nice day but not this time. Have a bad one 👍

[@jc9240]

Welcome to the real adventures of life!.......You cannot predict when death and accidents occur, or when you think they should or should not happen! Unfortunately there are Conspiracy Theorists Experts and Specialist in their own minds who will never be satisfied that anything can ever occur like this unless it was Coordinated, Schemed, and Planned Strategically! SMH!!!

[@debbielwilliamson8546]

If you pay attention to these and other types of accidents, they are usually ruled an accident until proof is found otherwise.

[@henryhsu1614]

You found it

[@Agwings1960]

Looks like a case of spatial disorientation

[@GH-oi2jf]

It doesn't.

[@bob80q]

Looks like a case of you being stupid

[@T.Michelle4620]

Thanks for taking my Post Down. BTW, We Americans have the right to "FREE SPEACH" Thank U

[@kevint1911]

The constitution limits what the government can do with respect to the people. It does not apply to a private corporation limiting rights to post “speech.” Just like a private business can limit some of your other rights when you are on their property. For example an arena can have security searches of people entering their venue and they can prohibit weapons protected by the second amendment.

[@bob80q]

And unfortunately you also have the right to be stupid

[@QueenAnaya-x7b]

2 of them hell naw we not buying it.

[@Youveseenmebefore]

We? Speak for yourself.

[@QueenAnaya-x7b]

@if you don’t like what I’m saying never respond 💯 just keep it pushing poo

[@camille2141]

@@Youveseenmebefore she obviously meant her peeps. The people she hangs with. She is also extremely correct. No one is buying this bs. Trump killed them all.

[@Youveseenmebefore]

@ I can respond to whatever I want. There’s nothing you can do about it.

[@3dsmaxrocks699]

@@camille2141 WHAT??? LOL!! Oh my.... TDS is an incurable disease.

[@brianw8963]

Debris is very dangerous? Is it radioactive or what?

[@tanyawieczorek6603]

I wondered why she said that too.. I mean if it's not on fire then how is it dangerous ..

[@brianw8963]

@ They have been telling the locals that from the onset. Typical protocol in my opinion, gather up all the evidence and disappear it.

[@Sal1066]

Well this was worthless. I wish I had those 5 min back.

[@ddt43]

Someone 'accidently' flew a drone into the plane. Simple as that. Technically an accident!

[@Tscaperock]

She is Dan Gryders bestie!

[@curtisburrell8122]

Going to be hard to put this together. A turn to the right and then the left.. was that initiated by the tower? If not a possible loss of control of the aircraft, hydraulic failure? Given its age and not knowing Mexico’s inspection standards especially on older aircraft seems likely it suffered a catastrophic failure.

[@scottwwsi]

completely untrustworthy.

[@Johnfisher12345]

Yeah, trust youtube commenters instead 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@scottwwsi]

@@Johnfisher12345 naïveté kills

[@jeanwilliams382]

Or a cartel hit?

[@SHANECatLovinActivistHistorian]

they always talk so stupid in these things

[@bossmass1668]

People please, obey God's Ten Commandments, otherwise you will be judged soon as well, don't play with God..😢.😢 People please, obey God's Ten Commandments, otherwise you will be judged soon as well, don't play with God..😢. People please, obey God's Ten Commandments, otherwise you will be judged soon as well, don't play with God..😢.😢😢

[@Johnfisher12345]

Shut up

[@stevendavid7483]

just ask trump he probably knows what happened

[@RobinDalton-c7k]

An accident it was more than an accident lady

[@TRIIGGAVELLI]

Wait I can't keep up. Now people are saying there was never a plane but it was a missile? And the target was a mall parking lot? Damn.

[@Johnfisher12345]

No, only idiots are saying that

[@gsmith6026]

I’ve not heard that conspiracy theory yet. Missiles don’t have wings, they also don’t have jet engines at full throttle.

[@edgarnewberry-cw4ld]

Well with the bigger parts of this vaporized airplane fitting into a cigar box. Those folks at the NTSB have done a great job of piecing this together. How do they know this was an accident? If they know the cause why are they not telling the public? You heard the tower conversation with the plane. No problems or emergency declared and then boom. How do they know? And what do they know?

[@williamgibb5557]

Another description for accident , is SOMEONE'S ERROR! Who failed?

[@Soccox]

These investigations take months. How is it she can say it was an accident so fast. DEI leadership here

[@patrickhenigin4805]

Trump following moron there.

[@GH-oi2jf]

She said they are classifying it as an accident. If they come across evidence of deliberate destruction of the aircraft, they will reclassify it.