Obsolete and Outnumbered | Croatian Late-War Fighter Aircraft

[@TheSouth-j7f]

Croatian Ace fighter pilot Mato Dukovac was credited with 44 kills during WW2. He flew with the Yugoslav Airforce, Croatian Airforce and Luftwaffe.

[@pericadomestos3108]

and syrian air force in the first Arb-Izr war

[@shibaarmyx7747]

da je bio hrvat,zvao bi se mate

[@robertomadunic7017]

​@@shibaarmyx7747Da je bio srbin zvao bi se Čamil.

[@borisfabian1621]

I live in Zagreb, I met during 2009 few times one Crostian war pilot (he was flying Ju-88 in KG Hindenburg and Me-109 in JG52) after war he fly in Lufthansa in midle east, he was nice man!

[@Wolfen443]

The smaller German allies in WWII get ignored too often in hindsight.

[@jank5989]

Because it was brutal everywhere..and there was Nazis everywhere. They didn't have as many allies as they just existed in certain countries(germans) nobody really sent an invitation to what they brought. Those people were animals

[@MM22966]

"She gets twenty air-kilometers to the hectare!" "What country is this plane from?" "ehhhhh...It no longer exists."

[@garyhooper1820]

Interesting piece of history , thanks

[@FRIEND_711]

Its so weird to look up the ICS airforce, for obvious reasons but still its facinating with all the aircraft they had. They even had the Fi-167 for reasons.

[@daveanderson3805]

Interesting video. And I found the back story about Croatia's effort as Germany's ally Interesting too.

[@TheSouth-j7f]

Croatia was invaded in April 1941, same as Serbia by Nazi Germany and both had puppet govts put in place.

[@PerunsZGRevenge]

Kudos on the pronunciation of the names. 09:55 - Many Croatians were involved in Barbarossa and many fought and died in Stalingrad. Croatian fighters are the only ones who have no kind of memorial erected for them there. Some fled, most died. My wife's great-grandfather fled from Russian captivity twice, once in the first world war, once after Stalingrad.

[@letecitoster3469]

My grandmothers uncle was in 369. Regiment that participated in the battle of Stalingrad. "Fortunately" he was wounded by artillery right before they entered the city so he had a chance to recover, unlike many of his friends.

[@danieljuric7928]

That is true, however they were under German army not Croatian. My great garandfather was captured in Russia WWi and came home bare feet. he survived the concertation camp, and only lived couple years after his return like 4 years after the war ended from all the torture. How Russia got away for war crimes in WW I & WW II, that is why they are attacking Ukraine. Russia needs to be done for war crimes..

[@longgrass9959]

My grandmother's brother was an NDH pilot. He had two aerial victories and was officially listed as missing in Russia. It's really a shame that this topic is not given more attention, considering the number of victories of Croatian pilots. If American Pilot had 44 wins, he would probably have 7 movies and two cities named after him.

[@nemanjabijeiic232]

He was an ustaša. Why would movies be made about that?

[@leonapater6071]

​@@nemanjabijeiic232 Because... ZA DOM

[@stipedomazet8169]

​@@nemanjabijeiic232Bili su Hrvatski zrakoplovci kakve Ustaše!!!

[@igcuric]

@@stipedomazet8169 sad će srbi sa svojim jasenovac lažima.

[@alandedic2868]

​@@nemanjabijeiic232Ustaše bili i branitelji Vukovara, i svaki tko voli Hrvatsku.

[@rm5902]

Great as usual

[@PinkFloyd4]

Jako zanimljivo.

[@valentinb-hh2kl]

Awesome Video , thanks 👍

[@markopantelic3088]

You are welcome!

[@RicoBanani]

wow, finally a thorough and chronologically exact history of the first Yugoslavia

[@engineer1941]

I think there was atleast one BF110 active in airforce. In lastest book about airforce there are images from american scrapyards after war where BF110 hull with Croatian markings is present. And i think best confirmed Croatian ace on Eastern front was Mato Dukovac.

[@engineer1941]

Topic of Croatian Airforce and Armed forces is being researched there are new discoveries every now and then. It was forbidden to reasearch it until 90s and in last decade Serbia eased bit access to Croatian archives in Belgrade, ton of documentation is still unavailable for researchers so it might be interesting if they ever give us back WW1, WW2 and both yugos archives.

[@lovelpetrovic1865]

My grandfather's brother was a pilot trainer both in the Kingdom of Yugoslavia and the NDH. He defected to partisans in September 1944 with a Fieseler plane.

[@365tito3]

Petrović koji je prebegao s Čajavecom?

[@lovelpetrovic1865]

@@365tito3 pilot Romeo Adum, stric moje majke. Zanimljivo da je s njime prebjegao i kopilot imenom Matija Petrović. Anegdotalno je da će mnogo godina kasnije moja majka imati oba ta prezimena.

[@365tito3]

@@lovelpetrovic1865 Wow znači talijan? Zanimljivo! Neka im je slava za pobjedu u ratu i srećan dan boraca!

[@lovelpetrovic1865]

@@365tito3 ne Talijan, Hrvat sa beogradskom adresom. Kasnije pilotirao za Jat i poginuo u zrakoplovnoj nesreći kod Beča.

[@365tito3]

@@lovelpetrovic1865 Neka mu je slava i hvala! Ja sam na 1/4 talijan, plus crnogorac i srbin i ne bi mi žao bilo uz takvog hrvata se boriti. To su bili pravi ljudi heroji.

[@Ivan-gv6yg]

Croatians were great soldiers.

[@ilijaspasojevic7031]

The most ordinary butchers and arsonists. Read, if you are interested, a little more about the Jasenovac death camp, and the one who in occupied Europe was the only one to have a concentration camp and a death camp exclusively for children! Of course, I am referring to the Croatian clerical-fascists, the Ustashas, allies of NAZI GERMANY AND FASCIST ITALY, WHO CREATED THE SO-CALLED INDEPENDENT STATE OF CROATIA on April 10, 1941. And these are historical facts, which stand in every Holocaust museum, as well as in Yad Vashem (Heb. יד ושם sometimes Yad VaShem; Memorial Institution for Victims and Heroes of the Holocaust) is the official memorial center for Jewish victims of the Holocaust in Israel. It is located on the Mount of Remembrance (Har Hazikaron) in Jerusalem. The main purpose of the museum is to document the suffering of 6 million Jews during the Holocaust that happened during the Second World War (since right after the Serbs in the NDH, the JEWS SUFFERED THE MOST AND THE SAME MONSTEROUSLY)..

[@goldeneagle5820]

Very correct rewiew - specially in relations from german govern to croatian soldiers. All true... 345 victories overall you said? Would be interesting to see some comparison in percentage of planes&flights...

[@markopantelic3088]

Thanks for the comment. The air victory numbers should of course be taken with a bit of grain of salt. Sources are not always reliable regarding the numbers, but the Soviet AIr Force, employed large number of aircraft. So it may not be that much distanced from the truth.

[@mislavbraovac6070]

🇭🇷🇭🇷🇭🇷🇭🇷🇭🇷ŽIVJELA REPUBLIKA HRVATSKA🇭🇷🇭🇷🇭🇷🇭🇷🇭🇷

[@antel704]

I HercegBosna povijesno konstitutivna u BiH.

[@augustlandmesser1520]

Ova što je bila na strani Nacista? Ili ova kojoj je prvi predsjednik bio Titov komesar 😄

[@agrameroldoctane_66]

Nice video about 🇭🇷, thanks. BTW Croatia had statehood since 925, as country was a part of St. Stephen and Habsburg Kingom based upon treaty, not conquest. First time Croatian parliament, juditial and legal system was dismantled was in 1919, right after serbian occupation under "yugoslavian" name. EDIT: In comments all tractor drivers seems to have rabies. Normal people, do not go there 🤣🤣

[@Dominikuuu]

Propaganda Croatia never had kings or empire. Its fairy tales.

[@agrameroldoctane_66]

@@Dominikuuu smell like three-phases ...

[@Bileks150]

​@@Dominikuuujust ignoring books, historical writings and archaeological finds?

[@milosgostiljac7329]

No evidence of croatian kings, state, never .. they get their autnomy and state first time in Yugoslavia, and thanks to Serbia. After that, in NDH, they made genocide over serbian population, more than 500k civilians they killed in most brutal way

[@Bileks150]

@@milosgostiljac7329 There is alot of evidences, with first ever historical records dating back to 10th century Byzant which was one of the first empires that was writing about south-slavic tribes, theyr culture and theyr imigration. There are also records from Venetians, Franks and even Papal state (Vatican), which writes about Croat princes from 9th century, kingdom of Croatia and has records of people crowned as the kings of croatia and dalmatia.

[@yogurt3572]

Good vid

[@markopantelic3088]

Thanks!

[@markod7662]

3:33 history repeating itself. The new "ally" (USA) also will not even sell any aircraft, even the aging ones, like F-16. Croatia got only kiowas, helicopters that were phased out by the us air force.

[@danieljuric7928]

Again Serbs with no knowledge, USA did tender and offered new F16's to Croatia, but because the MIG 21 were expiring we needed a quick turn around while the F16's would of been delivered 2028, just like Romania and Bulgaria, hence why Croatia acquired for the Rafael. Jealousy is a sickness., and what about the Black Hawks, Bradleys you forgot about that. As I said jealousy is a sickness.

[@markod7662]

@@danieljuric7928 sickness is also to proclaim everyone who does not say what you want to be serbian. I am a croatian and i do not like how the USA is treating Croatia. Selling us junk. But it is our fault because as a nation we are stupid. And why were Israeli F-16s not good? Because for the US we are not thrustworthy. They think a backward tribe like we are do not need jets.

[@exocet1]

I believe they also received Macch'is 202

[@StoneCresent]

I cringed every time they called Bf 109s Me 109s. Did the Croats really called them Me 109s?

[@bryantbridgewaters7177]

Very often, literature from ww2 often referred to them as "Me.109". Not sure if the Croats called them that too though.

[@spudgunn8695]

I've always called them the Me. Bf.109. Maker followed by model. But then, I'm a 1970's autistic brat, so what else would you expect! Lol

[@1joshjosh1]

U cringed did ya. Well then.

[@lukadoslic3034]

We pronounce the whole name of the manufacturer. Messerschmitt 109

[@StoneCresent]

@@lukadoslic3034 Yes, Messerschmitt is the manufacturer, but the official designation of the aircraft series was Bf 109. The Bf came from the name of the company before mid 1938 when Willy Messerschmitt acquired it, Bayerische Flugzeugwerke. Thus it would be more accurate to call the plane a Messerschmitt Bf 109 both in the sense Willy Messerschmitt co-designed it and the fact that the company that made it eventually bared his name. The Bf 109 series was never redesignated, but aircraft the company developed and introduced after Messerschmitt bought it out would bare the Me designation.

[@repaw357]

@gaijin GET BACK TO WORK SNAIL

[@Semprini537]

The nazis fucked up Croatia. We have that stigma til today. We were just a cannon fodder

[@365tito3]

What this doesnt mention is that the NDH was given a lot of Bucker Jungmann and Bestmann trainers. The partisans would capture these and use them as improvised bombers by dropping grenades from them, or as attack aircraft by mounting a gun at the back.

[@VladimirLabovic]

'ебо те Ћопави

[@VladimirLabovic]

'ebo te Copavi

[@365tito3]

@@VladimirLabovic =u= mad bro?

[@VladimirLabovic]

@@365tito3 Pricaj srpski da te ceo svet razume. Nema vecih bolesnika od vas Jugonostalgicara i ljubitelja copavog Tita

[@markopantelic3088]

That is true, but they are not fighters but trainers as you mentioned. Maybe one day in the future we may do more on NDH stuff.

[@mosesracal6758]

Its weird to refer to the Bf 109 as Me 109

[@nedlooby7419]

Yeah unless you were actually their at the time using the terms interchangeably and not some 1960s technical purist

[@justnothing8692]

Oh no everyone is learning how naughty Croatia was in ww2

[@danieljuric7928]

Plane Encyclopedia Very good video, done your homework well, and all facts were very accurate. I like when people use accurate information and not make a video with propoganda as we see the serbs are trying to do this constantly. Vey well educated video. very impressive.

[@alhemicaribastovani9029]

The autor Is serbian you know 😅

[@ZS-rw4qq]

You got an episode on Yugo partisans? Their first pilots were Ustaše defectors

[@PlaneEncyclopediaYT]

That's an interesting idea. We'll tell our scriptwriter to look into it!

[@ZS-rw4qq]

@@PlaneEncyclopediaYT Well boys, you just earned yourselves a sub!

[@oskng]

Partizani su osnovani u hrvatskoj

[@Harahvaiti]

​​@@PlaneEncyclopediaYTjust to clarify things - those pilots were not ustasha defectors but regular army defectors. Ustashe were voluntary armed force akin to Black Shrits in Italy or in a lesser degree to Waffen SS in Germany but Air Force of NDH was part of regular army, none of them wore ustasha uniforms.

[@dominikbt7891]

The only reason they defected was to survive most of them defected in 1944 at the time war was obviously lost, stop presenting them as heros for partisan cause or some brotherhood and unity BS the fact that Yugoslavia collapsed 45 years after the end of ww2 tells you a lot that we Croats never wanted to be ruled by serbs.

[@davey7452]

By late 1943 the war was going against Germany they were hard pressed on heavy weapons especially combat aircraft the Croatians were not given much in the way of modern warplanes just obsolete or referbuished models it was adequate because Titos forces had no combat aircraft but by 1945 RAF support from Itay became available the ad vance of the Red army through the Balkans was too much and the Croatian airforce collapsed.

[@danieljuric7928]

But that is why the Srijem front was too hard for the Russians to break, so they left to advance on Berlin, And what is interesting fact is that the serbs that dies on the Srijem front have been named that they were killed in Jasenovac, the Srijem Front was a disaster of the serbian leader and tried to hide their shameful decision of war tactics. Serbs were never and winll never be goo military tacticians.

[@tihoprskalo7719]

Just watching BalkanUFO❣ 🤠🖖🏻

[@DaveSCameron]

Fantastic football team, almost as ruthless as the Ustache were circa 1943, I hear… ⚽️📚

[@DaveSCameron]

P.S. you might want to consider slowing down your slideshow pace a touch, or maybe even use images and footage that is relevant to your narration and give me some chance of learning something. Best wishes. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿📚

[@TheSouth-j7f]

Fun fact. A Croatian football team, Hajduk Split, played a British army team in Italy during WW2.

[@agrameroldoctane_66]

​@@TheSouth-j7f that was communist, not Croatian team.

[@TheSouth-j7f]

@@agrameroldoctane_66 Still ethnic Croatian but yes Yugoslav Partisan team.

[@kresimirskoric3960]

@@agrameroldoctane_66 you have a problem with fact that Hajduk, pride of Dalmatia as every single Croatian in Dalmatia fought against NDH? No worries, in Dalmatia we always knew who the enemy was. And yes, back than, NDH was the enemy

[@emanzuzelsilverberf]

serbs be seething

[@rmladenic]

Croats were the first in the partisan aviation, Franjo Kluz and Rudi Čajavec.

[@Pixonette]

We call them traitors!

[@rmladenic]

@@Pixonette Russians and Serbs would like to portray them as Chetniks, and the British are not far from them either

[@joseveintegenario-nisu1928]

In 1978, the Tito's Yugoslavia had Banknotes written in four Alphabets: latin, Greek, Cyril and Arab. The Yugo car factory could have been a determinant element in the mostly french attacks to the serbian Milosevic. Gavril Princip, murder in Sarajevo, triggering WW I, had an hebrew name and surname.

[@Harahvaiti]

There was never a Yugoslav banknote with Greek or Arah letters, not in general use and it's highly unlikely to have one such published as limited collectionaire series

[@joseveintegenario-nisu1928]

@@Harahvaiti I was in Yugoslavia in 1978, had these banknotes from a bank change in Trieste

[@joseveintegenario-nisu1928]

@@damirblazevic4823 Again, I had These banknotes written in 4 Alphabets in my hands in 1978. Gavril and Princip are hebrew-like Name and Surname, No discussion possible about this

[@joseveintegenario-nisu1928]

@@damirblazevic4823 Macedonia is a Greek region, Kosovo has many Muslims

[@damyr]

@@joseveintegenario-nisu1928 Not Greek, nor Arab. They were written in 4 languages... Serbian, Slovenian, Croatian and Macedonian. Serbian and Macedonian languages use Cyrillic style alphabet. Slovenian and Croatian use Latin type of alphabet. Compared to Cyrillic, Greek alphabet uses an entirely different set of letters. And Arab alphabet is rather a totally different world.

[@stefanschulze5145]

Oh yes , and so often they take part on the wrong side . As Always 🤣 And today its slava ......... Well i am not allowed to say more , i have to censor myself 🤣

[@milanzdunic1940]

Flying outdated planes they had two ases with more kils then Americans in the war.

[@alhemicaribastovani9029]

😮

[@rogerhudson9732]

The Croatian Airforce still has problems, they even fly a couple of Mig21s. ...ZD,S

[@Bileks150]

Not anymore. Migs are being replaced by rafales

[@mariomihalina1656]

I am Croatian. This WAS NOT Croatia. It was nazi pupet regime, genocidal in roots. Change the title.

[@nedlooby7419]

So nazi germany was not germany? It's a sad chapter of Croatian history no point denying it face it

[@marklittle8805]

Unfortunately Croatia or what it was during these years got in bed with the Germans to try and get away from the Serbs. Yugoslavia just didn't work for all these groups and Croatia wanted their own nation and the Germans were willing to help.

[@lovelpetrovic1865]

Exactly. According to international war law, that entity was not a subject of international law.

[@TheSouth-j7f]

@@nedlooby7419 Both Croatia and Serbia had pro-Nazi puppet govts installed by Nazi Germany after they got invaded in April 1941.

[@robrob9050]

​@@lovelpetrovic1865At least Serbian puppet regime recognized NDH as "state"

[@slobodanpejovic3597]

Gde je ovaj svet otisao,kad se ponose sto su bili na strani nacista

[@nenad.zaninovic]

indepedent state ? 🤣

[@dominikbt7891]

Mnogo više nezavisnija od Nedićeve Srbije

[@StefanStanimirovic-u6v]

naci croatia

[@stipedomazet8169]

Naci servia!!!

[@carlomagno7092]

Molti nemici, molto onore.