Planetary BMX Freecoaster Troubleshooting and Maintenance

Troubleshooting and Maintenance tips for BMX freecoaster hubs that utilize the Free Night Planetary clutch.
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[@nightriderbmxshop6768]

Damn, that's a nice hub! Thanks for the mention, we'll be happy to help anyone that contacts us :)

[@frodosb4538]

I'm currently having these problems with alienation hub 😅

[@StokedShroomer]

I just bought a planetary hub. Thank you for this video.

[@TaskAZ]

Just got a bsd hub and after first ride it started seeking! So angrivating building a custom wheel and have if squeek. Took out the driver and just a quick spray with wd and it solved the issue. Appreciate your insight 🙏🏼!

[@twentytolife4401]

Thanks for posting this. I'm gonna dig out my wheel with the free night hub, and give it another look. Been in storage almost two years 😬

[@Brant_Moore]

I hope it helps!

[@ponydown4189]

Thanks for the explanation!

[@mikework4172]

Great info!! Thanks Brant!!

[@Fourpegsbmx]

Awesome stuff Brant!

[@russelljennings7822]

Good video Brant, way to pass on knowledge

[@JustVictor72]

Been riding my bsd revolution for a year. So far so good✌🏻👍🏻

[@kiikii7815]

Yo bro my bsd rev has no sound since i got it any fixed?

[@JustVictor72]

@@kiikii7815 the clutch should engage the paws when rolling forward hence there should be the cassette sound. If there isn't, then I suggest that you open up the internals and check the clutch and the paws. You need to rewatch this video again. and in case you haven't, do tighten the jam nut on the drive side as Brant mentioned at 5:44. And also like Brant said, do not grease up the internals on this hub.

[@kiikii7815]

@@JustVictor72 yes thanks bro i tried everything cleaning the paws of the drive and tighten the cones but i cant take the clutch out it is really tight unfortunately i tried

[@JustVictor72]

@@kiikii7815 sorry to hear that man. It's gonna be hard to troubleshoot without looking at it.

[@superloopy24v]

I had some skipping of engagement on my BSD Revolution from new, luckily I found a comment online straight away that said to make sure the nuts were nice and tight. Mine were pretty good but that tiny extra bit of tightening made all the difference.

[@dethgripco]

Incidentally, i had an epiphany this morning on planetary clutch system. I message you in IG but you haven't replied though. Coming in YT, now you have this video, it may be a sign!

[@RogerMalcharzik]

During the last BMX session the BSD made me Fall down. Now Pizza on my knee, because the pedal are empty when cornering. Cracks some times when pedaling! Annoying and disappointing. Want a different one. Now I know why it’s like this, Thanks for your help .

[@253goon]

Your cone nuts are loose from torquing down your wheels. Give me your hub

[@frodosb4538]

Im having the first issue that you've talked about I'm going to try and swap the O-ring and put some dry rub on it and see what happens thanks for the video

[@Brant_Moore]

I have a newer video that shows this in depth

[@bmxriderforlife1234]

Had an idea for lubing this hub easily with no mistakes. High quality q tip like the black ones used for dabbing. Soak it in triflow. You can sponge on a little bit in just the areas you need. I can see someone accidentally putting too much lube and having to rip it apart to clean lol

[@Dbmxxx]

For me I just had to take off the drivers side hub guard after the hub was skipping and it worked perfectly

[@MiddleAgeBMX]

One tip with the Planetarys is that it doesn't like extremely tight chains. When I first got my BSD hub last year, it wouldn't engage and when I contacted BSD that was one of the suggestions. Sure enough once I loosened my chain from where i had it, all was good. You can keep your chain tight, just not super tight.

[@Brant_Moore]

That’s a good tip, thank you!

[@MiddleAgeBMX]

@@Brant_Moore The new manufactured clutch is so much better and beefier than the OG freenight. I had the freenight and had various troubles and actually wound up destroying the clutch. The only problems I have had with the BSD in the last year were fixed by loosening the chain and making sure the cone nuts are tight. The OG freenight had me replacing O-rings in the first month... People should definitely give the Revolution or the Venus a shot. Now if only there was a female axle version!

[@Brant_Moore]

That’s crazy that you destroyed one. I practically tried to destroy one myself and let other people do anything they wanted with it on my bike. The hub is still just fine as a backup for me. Even so the new clutch is definitely a giant improvement for sure! Female axle could happen but only as a 3/8 version

[@bmxriderforlife1234]

@@MiddleAgeBMX you can buy certain female cassette axles and convert them to 3/8ths female. But I think the clutch might need a redesign to go 14mm female or driver bearing issues.

[@sole__doubt]

Got caught in the rain about a week ago and my bsd revolution hub has been having engagement problems since. I cant even remove the jam nuts to get the driver off to see if its o-ring. If anyone has any advice I would really appreciate it.

[@rafaelprado9503]

my colony swarm, it doesn't moon walk it engages when I try to pedal forward, I've tried to do as they say turn the crank slowly, much slower than the wheel is turning and it doesn't work, I feel like it's a khe with the minimum engagement clearance how much I'm fakie, any tips?

[@thetrainmaster.100]

I have a 2020 fit bike scumbag and every time I get it fixed it breaks after like a week, it’s a completely stock hub. Every time I stop pedaling I hear a loud ding noise from the hub, I’m starting to get over it, I’m about 200ish dollars in to fixing this, do you recomend any aftermarket hub for this damn bike

[@joshuapowers4623]

I recommend never using wd-40 as a lubricant. It's more of a de-greaser & only acts as a lubricant until it evaporates, which it does fairly quickly.

[@Brant_Moore]

Did not know that. It’s what was suggested by Free Night so I assume that it solves the problem enough even once evaporated

[@avidgamer5676]

Yeah the WD stands for water displacement, I only use wd40 to clean my bike esp after getting wet in the rain.

[@bmxriderforlife1234]

Yup. It's also designed to leave a thin film behind if you don't disturb it. The film acts as a rust inhibitor but it's fairly delicate Wd in wd 40 stands for weapons defense. 40 stands for the recipe iteration. Was originally used to protect missiles. It also usually contains little bits of metal in it. Triflow is gold.

[@performancetesting1]

Agree. It's an anti-rust and de-greaser, but I also used to think it was okay as a lubricant. Common misconception.

[@bobbo9549]

If you’re intending to keep the unit dry WD40 is a wet lubricant unless you mean WD40 dry PTFE spray which goes on wet but dries leaving a PTFE coating. How do remove the ratchet ring that the pawls engage with as I can’t find anything on this.

[@RalexDiGaetaStunts]

My wheel starter to squeak in my 4th session. Colony swarm.

[@TreeBurns]

haha i just bought a cult astromical and it started to sqeak when i got to the skate park what a POS hub design

[@Brant_Moore]

You’re on the video that shows you how to fix it. This hub is smarter than you are

[@mc-yo3ix]

one tiny drop of wd40 on o ring fixed it for me

[@zosterinski]

Tightening the jam nut on the drive side seems to make the wheel spin very little

[@nightriderbmxshop6768]

This may be related to the small step of the cone nut, let me know if you need some help.

[@MarkHarbert]

Brant do you find if the chain is to tight it can cause slippage? I have the BSD hub and it is slipping a bit and I think I have the chain to tight. Just curious your thoughts.

[@Brant_Moore]

I’ve actually heard that before but I like to be able to do double crankflips so I’ve never kept a tight chain. Easy to test though if you can give your chain a little slack

[@MarkHarbert]

@@Brant_Moore I will loosen it up and let you know. Awesome video by the way.

[@oh.julixn4386]

Hey! My hub doesn’t sound like a cassette at all i’ve had it for a while now and I got a new ORING for it it engages inconsistently and doesn’t ratchet at all, not sure what is going on and i’m very worried abt it, my jam nuts are tight as well

[@Brant_Moore]

You haven't put grease or anything in it have you?

[@jda79]

Now I just need a planetary hub so I can maintain it

[@adrianheredia_ac1842]

Hey, Brant! Do you knoe if it's possible to convert the BSD Revolution from RHD to LHD?

[@Brant_Moore]

The hub itself, no it’s not. The ratchet ring inside the hub shell is directional

[@adrianheredia_ac1842]

@@Brant_Moore Dang it, for sure. I appreciate the response man!

[@alwayssmokingneverslacking]

Is it normal for the back wheel to not spin as free as a front wheel when I ride I can’t feel it but when I spin the wheel it doesn’t spin forever like a front or any other back wheel would

[@Brant_Moore]

Yea these hubs have a little bit more drag with how the clutch works in conjunction with the axle. It gets better with time

[@jbuckley9932]

My bsd hub has alot of side to side play, i checked all the bearings everything seems solid. Any idea what would cause this?

[@jordanthompson323]

Check how tight your bearings are, ie can you push them in and out with your hand.....basically the hub shell isn't manufactured to be a tight fit with the bearing, use a bearing retaining compound and re fit your bearings and tighten up the cone nuts this should fix the issue. it did with mine

[@jbuckley9932]

Worked perfect, thank you!!

[@blicky4slumpz372]

Mine bsd revolution likes to act like a cassette 9/10s out of 10 when i try to fakie. No matter what i do, pedal backwards, pedal forwards then backwards. Just try to hop and not pedal at all it still wants to pedal backwards. Please any help is appreciated!

[@jacklandsflatbmx9141]

I have the exact same problem

[@blicky4slumpz372]

@@jacklandsflatbmx9141 reached out to bsd and they actually send me a replacement. The new revolution has been working flawlessly and im starting to wonder if its just luck of the draw when you purchase the hub

[@jacklandsflatbmx9141]

@@blicky4slumpz372 how did you contact them though insta or email ?

[@blicky4slumpz372]

@Jack lands flat Bmx i actually emailed them thru their website. They will try to twll you every trick and secret they think you dont know to help you "fix" it before they replace it but just stay persistent and clear that you've done all you good and they should give ya one!

[@TreeBurns]

can i use normal WD-40 inside on clutch for sqeaking noise?

[@Brant_Moore]

If you can manage to only get enough on there to coat the surface of the top hat washer where the O ring comes in contact with it

[@TreeBurns]

i just opened it up and sprayed the whole inside clutch an all with some super tech lubricant opened non drive spayed that an i got it to shut up@@Brant_Moore

[@thamerengeli7843]

@Brant_Moore Hey can you please tell me what i can do with my BSD Planetary? I have some troubleshooting with it. I bought it 1 Month ago and after riding it a bit it start spinning forward while pedaling and its dangerous.. i tighten the nut as you told in the video but it still snaps sometimes. Please if you have any tips for me.

[@Brant_Moore]

Make your chain tighter and it won’t do that.

[@thamerengeli7843]

@@Brant_Moore or more loose because i have it way to tight maybe what i found in here as a answer?

[@Brant_Moore]

@@thamerengeli7843 That could be too. I haven’t had this issue so I don’t know exactly how to fix it

[@thamerengeli7843]

@@Brant_Moore thanks for your fast response:) cheers from Switzerland

[@nightriderbmxshop6768]

This actually doesn't sound familiar, please contact us (freenight) or BSD so we can find the reason.

[@kirkwickham3336]

So long as I keep my cone nuts tight, my Revos run fine.