PLANNING AN ORCHARD FOR YOUR HOMESTEAD - PANTRY CHAT #44

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Josh and Casimir are discussing the topic of planting a small orchard. Whether you have acres of land or just a small plot, they cover it all from which trees might work best for your situation, knowing your climate and which varieties would grow well, understanding your soil, annual moisture and so much more.
If you've wanted to add fruit trees or even fruit-bearing shrubs to your homestead, this is the video to watch. Check out the time stamps below for specific topics.
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At Boundary County Restoration Project: / fillthevalleywithtrees
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Time Stamps
0:00 - Main Topic: How to Plan a Small Orchard
2:55 - Understanding your climate and know what USDA Heartiness Zone you're in.
3:40 - Know your soil type and annual moisture.
5:30 - Understanding micro-climates on your property.
7:20 - Diversity of trees and fruit (Dwarf, semi-dwarf and full size)
11:50 - Multi graft trees
14:45 - Planting early, mid and late cultivars
17:45 - Buying yearlings vs. several-year-old trees
21:12 - When is the best time of year to plant fruit trees?
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[@lovethedonald6844]

I hadn't realized there was a difference in longevity between the dwarf and standard... that one piece of information just made a huge difference in my orchard planning ... thank you both so much!

[@RoseFelton]

I'm wanting to put fruit trees on the land we got a year ago. I'm so glad you invited Casimir to come and talk as I learned a lot. I hope you can do more Chats with him as I think he has more information for us to learn from.

[@drell1481]

Wow! Thank you

[@surrenderbend6828]

Thank you , what Casimir is doing is amazing. I see old homesteads all the time with old trees. Wish I would have thought about doing this before my grandparents homestead was sold and the old cherry tree was destroyed Be safe !

[@gordaallsop3403]

Agreed. and Amen!

[@NS-pf2zc]

What a great knowledgable guest! I learned so much, thank you!

[@cselfie7234]

2nd time watching. Great info. Thanks.

[@fourseasonsnorth]

Thank you so much Homesteading Family and Casimir for sharing all the valuable knowledge!

[@jacquelynjohnston8849]

THATS AWESOME! KEEP US POSTED WHEN YOU START SELLING THOSE PLANTS!!

[@jddirtfarmer3128]

Thank you so much for the explanation of bare root and potted trees.

[@rogerbettencourt9654]

Your channel is so full of wonderful information and people. You are a great family and you have some great friends. Thanks for sharing all your life lessons with us. God bless.

[@SherryEllesson]

Josh & Casimir, thanks so MUCH for this! I have my first 40 loads of wood chips on my land (the first of what will be a lot more) that've been composting from 1 and 1/2 to 2 years this early May. I'm on a flat part of central Delaware (Zone 7B) and have been taking temp measurements of the piles with a probe, recording wind & rain, etc for 3 years and am ready to start a permaculture Eden with nuts, fruit, vine & shrub foods and raised planter boxes for annual veggies. Fingers crossed, sending up prayers and hoping for the best. Be well, guys! - S.

[@heidigib01]

Sherry Ellesson what an awesome plan. By taking the time to plan and prep I believe you will succeed, good luck.

[@SherryEllesson]

btw, Autofill renamed Carolyn, not me. lol

[@SugarCreekOffGrid]

I see the old homesteads and recognize some amazing plants and trees. I've seen a few purchases and these amazing resources bull dozed HEARTBREAKING! This is a much needed service!

[@suemagyari2992]

Loved Casimir's info. Thanks! Would love to see a video having Casimir teach us how to graft and also how to cut scion wood. Invaluable ! Hope that can be in a future video.

[@samib4086]

Bring this guy back, great info!

[@karenmccleary7616]

An absolute wealth of information. Lots of food for thought😉 THANKS!

[@kimberlyscrivner9373]

Great information! I have tried a "postage stamp" orchard twice with no luck. But I would love for him to come back or for you to talk about how to maintain your trees when it comes to pests. I also really enjoyed your video on pruning. Everyone around here gets real nervous when I go after the trees. But they always look so much better and are much healthier!

[@susannielsen8688]

Excellent! Keep bringing Cas back for more!

[@Dr.Mrs.TheMonarch]

Fantastic video. I wish it was longer so you could of gone into more detail and talk about companion planting.

[@ChocolateBoxCottage]

Another awesome video. I appreciate the discussion on microclimates especially. Great reminder to keep our eyes open to the peculiarities of our own particular piece of property. ~Michele

[@whitepinehomestead]

Great information! You answered so many questions and shed light on many things I had not even thought about. Thank you as always!

[@theparksfamilyhomestead3728]

Also fantastic video at a great time! Im about to plant my orchard

[@Wildevis]

Never heard of planting 4 in one hole and would not mind trying it in my small space. The bare root tip is excellent

[@gretchenharro3489]

Good pruning suggestions!

[@BiancaH1120]

Carolyn, just want to say thank you for your canning class, honestly feels like the best investment ive ever made given the current state of affairs. The knowledge ive gained from it is 100% invaluable, along with your other youtube content, and the skills i have now make me feel so much more at ease than i would without them. We are just coming out of the extreme summer heat now so i can start my garden again any time, but this year i have a whole new hope for it, thanks to you and Josh ❤️❤️

[@cynthiafisher9907]

Good information., this man seems pretty knowledgeable! It is great to have food that is somewhat easier than a vegetable garden. However, there is a lot more work to keeping a home orchard than just planting the tree and then walking out and picking fruit! Pruning, thinning and spraying for bugs and diseases(depending on your location and how buggy you want your fruit to be) are pretty big chores, especially when you have several different types of fruit. They must be handled differently.

[@stephaniejohnson3739]

Lots of great info! Thanks

[@NotARealHomestead]

I saw this video, and had an auditable "oooooo!!!" haha I hope that's the reaction you wanted. Excited to watch! Thanks for always providing such rich info!

[@daniellepoulin6675]

Great information, thanks for sharing!

[@hangtoughhomestead2229]

Thank you for bringing to mind the different life span of dwarf vs. standard fruit trees.

[@MaMaVinnova]

Really fantastic video, thank you so much!👍

[@BeckyValkyrie]

Planning my first orchard and you've given me lots to think about. Thanks so much for the video! Very informative. 🍎🍐🍑

[@MonicaMoveMIRealty]

Very helpful and concise - thank you - I bought full size trees for a small space - glad I did!

[@louannnance637]

Great info, thanks

[@conniewallace7529]

Thank you for the info!

[@dancnluc1]

Great video!

[@petroc62]

I would love to hear more of Casimir's wisdom. I planted a small diverse orchard a few years ago (various species of apples, pears, peaches, cherries, walnuts, etc) and we're JUST starting to get some fruit yield from them. We're having some issues with deer eating the new buds though, and Japanese beetles destroying our cherry trees and I'd like to know what he does to deal with those types of issues. I'd also like to hear from Casimir about his thoughts on planting grapes, nut trees, and paw paws. We live in zone 8 (central New Hampshire) so our growing season is a little shorter and certain things (like figs) don't do well here.

[@ardenpeters4386]

perfect timing my first three trees arrived yesterday!! new place

[@Cenepk101]

I espalier apples & cherry trees. So I can reach them. Paul from Back to Eden has old Apple trees he pruned out the center so it would grow out - amazing the fruit it produces

[@eliinthewolverinestate6729]

My property came with wild cherries choke and pin. Have a lot of service berries with long lives roots. We have 15 kinds of wild berries. I am in the central U.P. so I like mm 111 and m 26. I like the more vigorous root stocks. I like ugly heirloom triploid apples. Pollinator trees was a big concern.

[@mcgarvsminihomestead7684]

Awesome info! Would love to hear more about grafting and a how to! Learned we did our trees all wrong last year! Wish I watched this earlier

[@o.o1163]

I'm prepared for my family

[@mxgangrel]

Great overview. Thanks. I got a couple pearls out of that. One tip, don't interrupt your guests so much. Have a blessed day.

[@davej7458]

Very good. Please do some more on spacing and pollinator trees for those that need to be near other varieties in order to produce well.

[@Cenepk101]

Cool idea to put 4 trees in one hole. My neighbor has old peach trees the previous owner did like that. ( 2 to a hole )

[@MsWoT......]

So cool to find you guys...I just started working on a farm here in Maryland and have been getting fresh eggs and was just watching your wife teach me how to Water Glass them ;D so cool to find you guys! Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us, I truly appreciate it! I'm turning my underground pool into 'My Amazing GreenPlayHouse' ...surrounded with cob walls with colored windows made from glass dinner plates, water fountain in the 3 deep section, a slide to the bottom where I want fruit trees in the 9ft deep so the tree will be at eye level when walking around the pool ...a water filtration using charcoal and rocks for some micro greens...some hammocks and fireplace ...maybe even some fish for my kitties dinner! ...that's my vision! ;D I've got pawpaw trees, a Mulberry tree, wild strawberries and all kinds of mushrooms popping up and taking root naturally on my property ~my *Down to Earth Palazoo* ;D Anywho, thanks again...you all inspire me! Diane Warrior Of Truth WOT

[@cwcobo]

Have many Dave Wilson Nursery trees. They're terrific and very reliable.

[@sharonlesley901]

More information on this plus pruning would be helpful please might be a good one for traditional skills

[@BuckInfinidy]

good luck

[@ecocentrichomestead6783]

Since we are on the topic of perennial fruits. What does your guest know about "Growing Degree Days"? my research is showing that the growth and production of trees depends, not on how cold your winter gets but, on how much heat your growing season gets. Of course, there is a minimum temperature a tree can withstand.

[@Cenepk101]

I have figs, bing cherries, apples, raspberries, blackberries, strawberries, raspberries & blueberries. I want pomegranate & pear trees. Really wish I could grow lemon trees. Could if I brought them indoors

[@michellerose6721]

Awesome info! Would love more. Have been concerned about planting fruit trees because of all the spraying involved with pest control. Are there really any organic controls that actually work? This will be my first year of no herbicides and don't want to instead be spraying pesticides😏

[@margaretthompson6391]

Could you install a temporary hoop house to plant trees in zone 5 in the fall then take the hoop house down mid spring? By hoop house I mean like the one you crafted out of cattle panel. My thinking is that you can get a six month jump on things while still protecting the young trees during that first winter by creating a faux climate. I get that you may have to harden the trees during the hoop house dismantling period.

[@theparksfamilyhomestead3728]

Question- Have you heard of driving a long nail into a trunk of a tree that has stopped producing? My mothers plum tree produced all my chilhood yearly, and then after about 10 years it just stopped and never had fruit or flowers again. Its a healthy tree, just not producing

[@surrenderbend6828]

Gonna have to stock up on mustard powder😷👵🏻

[@mykindpharm]

What is a good resource for bare root stock fruit trees that are affordable? I am located in Arco Idaho, zone 4 but more like a 3 and a TON of wind... Thanks!! This was a GREAT video!

[@idahoplantlady]

I live in the Silver Valley and we have a yellow plum tree growing that was here when we moved in. Not sure if he’s interested in cutting a branch off.

[@Cenepk101]

What about planting design & situation? Exposures ... I have an acre I want to make an orchard. He did say tuck in the gooseberries... do another vid with tips on placement, companion tree ? Is there such a thing like w veg ? Are there herbs that are beneficial to grow with the trees ? Plus - I have honey bee hives on that acre: Cas mentioned planting for 90 day blueberry harvesting- Are there trees that can accommodate ( with the flowers ) my bees progressively ? Sorry. You two got my gears turning. 😉 Thank you in advance!!!!!

[@erio8993]

We're in zone 5b, in arid front range of southern Colorado. When would be the best month to get bare root apple trees planted? Do we wait until there is no snow on the ground, last frost date etc?

[@kimberlywessel7546]

Can you grow those citrus trees in green houses up north?

[@idahoplantlady]

I have wild Cherry trees and my neighbor has rainier. Can I graft Rainier to my wild cherry?

[@ohske]

☺️👍👍👍👌

[@kellyh8218]

If we live in zone 7, can we plant in the spring or we need to wait until fall?

[@ChickensAndGardening]

one website (growfoodeasily) says plant citrus starting in May.

[@PatsyMellen]

Where a good place to buy fruit trees that will ship?

[@michellerose6721]

Stark bros. "brothers" Alot of KZbin homesteaders have been ordering from them

[@mattingly1217]

What is the red stuff you're drinking? Is that wine of some sort?

[@52blue7]

Travis Matting Maybe its some sort of juice?

[@gracereeves7803]

Switchel?

[@jeffrummell2348]

You are wrong. Have you ever seen them close down towns? They closed the schooled in Ohio for three weeks. They aren't tell so something,

[@johncrawford4302]

please do the same thanks

[@mehtarelingolien]

I'm a deaf subscriber. The subtitles are not matching the audio.

[@Mrs.Patriot]

I love you all but when you said you're not worried about coronavirus, it's affecting older people, that's a pretty myopic view. Do you think people over 60 should be concerned? Do you have parents? Gosh, Josh.

[@michellerose6721]

I might be wrong but, I think Josh's point was that normal precautions, such as you would take with the flu, should be taken to protect vulnerable elderly and immune compromised individuals. The violence, hoarding and fear mongering is unwarranted. Be careful not fearful. Stay safe, you and yours.

[@HomesteadingFamily]

@@michellerose6721 Well said, thank you.

[@Cenepk101]

Corona Psyop... If you’ve had your tv on or read your email: You’ve certainly earned your Corona Diploma. Trump today announced Groceries/Supplies will be stocked like Christmas time. No worries!!!!

[@Cenepk101]

Building, unwittingly- a bird sanctuary.... 😳

[@tracybruring8440]

just an fyi; flu death rate in 2019 was .09 of the people who were infected died. In Italy right now people over 80 are at 14%. world wide 3.4% have died. If you have not cancelled your and your wife's travel plans please do so. I am a commercial insurance adjuster and have talked to businesses in CA and the situation is not good. I personally rescheduled my trip to Florida.

[@seroweassociatesllc]

Tracy you say flu death rate in 2019 was .09 of people infected. Then you say of the people over 80, 14% are dying. You are not comparing apples with apples and this is why Josh says to get the facts right first. To do a proper comparison you need to find out how many over 80's got the flu in 2019 and then find out how many of them died to see what the % is. Only then can you tell people to put off their holiday or advise them accordingly.

[@jeffrummell2348]

If you are going to talk about the virus? Get all you can from the news.

[@jeffrummell2348]

Don't under state the problem.

[@gpozdol7912]

Cass needs to turn off the TV and check out alt news sites.

[@o.o1163]

if you can would you send me CiCi's fruit trees or cutting cuz that would be wonderful I'm going to be starting a fruit Forest and of food for us for my grandchildren and familyI've got an elderberry I got cuttings from the route to the elderberry that started to grow up I'm getting them to get Roots in water right now, if you've got cuttings or seeds n would like to donate them please let me know🤗😊. I'll buy some at the lowest price you can sell them to me, sincereley,, Lisa

[@KellyBurnham]

Please stick to Homesteading. You're way off base on Covid-19. It's Not the Flu.

[@dianebailey7868]

Do you know of anyone that has had it? I would like to hear personal stories and not the news channel!

[@saucywench9122]

He didn't say it was.