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@PlayersChoiceShow
@PlayersChoiceShow 9 күн бұрын
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@IndoorvoicesPod
@IndoorvoicesPod 9 күн бұрын
Jordan is like Ticket if he had better ppl skills and self awareness
@daiemmohammad8640
@daiemmohammad8640 9 күн бұрын
stubborn but generally good vibes
@dashfetchem3458
@dashfetchem3458 6 күн бұрын
Ticket was just an old head on the net lmaoo they talk mad crazy
@canadadry4609
@canadadry4609 5 күн бұрын
Which is actually great. I don't agree with the takes but hes a really good addition. Good vibes.
@386_ollo_sports
@386_ollo_sports 2 күн бұрын
Tell me why I said this on another video 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@386_ollo_sports
@386_ollo_sports 2 күн бұрын
@@canadadry4609old head
@huncho5554
@huncho5554 9 күн бұрын
Jordan a good edition to the panel but bro loves ppg too much
@jasonha4489
@jasonha4489 9 күн бұрын
“What’s a good midrange percentage for Tony Parker” Jordan: uhh like 18-25 points a game
@datbo1jay1
@datbo1jay1 9 күн бұрын
and mvps for some reason
@taquaywhite4503
@taquaywhite4503 9 күн бұрын
And games played, I’ve never heard 70+ games be considered bad
@hjalmarskytnielsen9383
@hjalmarskytnielsen9383 9 күн бұрын
@@datbo1jay1except if its Steve Nash
@B4dafam
@B4dafam 9 күн бұрын
The mic volume to good takes ratio for him is terrible
@sync_0255
@sync_0255 9 күн бұрын
need jordan as a regular his wild takes add to the show lol
@itszaaaamzeh
@itszaaaamzeh 9 күн бұрын
Nobody: Bob & Marz: I got Manu
@hjalmarskytnielsen9383
@hjalmarskytnielsen9383 9 күн бұрын
Elite refernce
@BIGOXMedia
@BIGOXMedia 9 күн бұрын
I GOT MANUUUUUU
@Matthew-xl5bc
@Matthew-xl5bc 9 күн бұрын
Big Ox's hate for Giannis is out of control. The man praises Sabonis (who is far worse player and is one of the worst defending bigs in the league) but yet he treats Giannis like he is a bumb.
@BIGOXMedia
@BIGOXMedia 9 күн бұрын
He’s not one of the worst big defenders in the league, that’s a lie. But have you ever heard me say that Domantas is better than Giannis? Go ahead and lie
@notmarz45
@notmarz45 9 күн бұрын
​@@BIGOXMediaSabonis is a cone ox
@BIGOXMedia
@BIGOXMedia 9 күн бұрын
@@notmarz45 Ok… if you say so
@notmarz45
@notmarz45 9 күн бұрын
​@@BIGOXMediaI do say so yes
@MegaKhalid121
@MegaKhalid121 9 күн бұрын
You talkin about run and dunk man?
@fatso889
@fatso889 9 күн бұрын
Swipa called Ron petite dawg 😂😂😂😂
@RonTheeDon
@RonTheeDon 9 күн бұрын
😂😂😂
@fatso889
@fatso889 9 күн бұрын
@@RonTheeDon like he could've just called you smaller than him but PETITE lol
@ronnellrandle569
@ronnellrandle569 9 күн бұрын
Giannis disrespecting is insane
@Bolt_btw
@Bolt_btw 9 күн бұрын
"Giannis doesn't know how to play basketball" STOP INVITING THESE CLOWNS UP HERE LIKE JORDAN RON PLEASE
@drenchmansports
@drenchmansports 9 күн бұрын
You have a giannis profile im not surprised at your emotion
@Bolt_btw
@Bolt_btw 9 күн бұрын
@drenchmansports the pfp has nothing to do with you just talking nonsense
@drenchmansports
@drenchmansports 9 күн бұрын
@@Bolt_btwit does when you’re defending it
@Bolt_btw
@Bolt_btw 9 күн бұрын
@drenchmansports there is nothing to defend because nobody believes it except you. As I said, you just talk nonsense...
@NostradamussSchalke
@NostradamussSchalke 9 күн бұрын
@@drenchmansports you’re a fool if you really believe that lmao
@pensarebasketball
@pensarebasketball 9 күн бұрын
Marz: What's a good midrange percentage Jordan: 44-50% Marz: reads Parkers career midrange % and it's below 44%... Jordan: What's your point? Watch the game bro. Marz: Seriously? Jordan: You're a nerd 😂 Lord help me.
@drenchmansports
@drenchmansports 9 күн бұрын
Tell the whole story
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports 9 күн бұрын
@@drenchmansportsSeems like a pretty accurate summation to me
@taquaywhite4503
@taquaywhite4503 9 күн бұрын
Time stamp?
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports 9 күн бұрын
@@taquaywhite450336:00
@drenchmansports
@drenchmansports 9 күн бұрын
@@MarzTalksSportsnah tell the whole story of why we went down stat man lane .. it started off with ron asking who’s better in the midrange manu, or tp.. i said TP, so he asked is he shooting more or does he shoot better and I’m saying he’s making them at a good percentage. Then you said what would you deem a percentage.. at first i said idk .. then we went on a whole rant about it. The reason why i said its geeky because what’s the point of harping on something about tp when it doesn’t answers Ron original question about Ginobli!! Either wise it’s pointless .. just a geeky stat compilation
@eem2wavy133
@eem2wavy133 9 күн бұрын
Can we acknowledge how much of a hypocrite Jordan is? Dude says analytics ruined the game and harps on people being box score watchers but his go to argument for why a player was good is the box score😭. Like choose a lane bro
@drenchmansports
@drenchmansports 9 күн бұрын
2. Things.. 1. how am i hypocrite for saying analytics ruined the games … not sure if analytics and box score is a DIRECT CORRELATION btw .. 2. When did i ever “ harp “ on someone box score watching? I think your understanding of things is not an intelligent level so you jump at anything you “ feel “ rather than what’s actually said.
@jasonha4489
@jasonha4489 9 күн бұрын
Jordan hate on stat geeks but he keep bringing up points and FG%
@drenchmansports
@drenchmansports 9 күн бұрын
😒🤦🏾‍♂️
@theblackbookclub1
@theblackbookclub1 9 күн бұрын
Another great episode. Stop inviting sleepy man. Yesterday it was Joe Johnson over Joe Dumars now Giannis doesn't know how to play basketball. Disgusting
@KleinpeterHank
@KleinpeterHank 9 күн бұрын
Shoutout to Elvin Hayes, missed 9 games in 16 seasons. Unreal durability that never gets mentioned for “iron men” in the NBA. Also, shoutout to Marz and Chill for standing on the ‘03 Spurs points. That was truly one of the closest things to a “carry job” in NBA history by Duncan that postseason.
@jumi48
@jumi48 9 күн бұрын
Chris Bosh is one of the most underrated players ever
@jayobvious1708
@jayobvious1708 9 күн бұрын
"It might not be apples and oranges but it’s still fruit" is fire🤣
@BIGOXMedia
@BIGOXMedia 9 күн бұрын
@@jayobvious1708 Barz… I taught him well
@jayobvious1708
@jayobvious1708 9 күн бұрын
@@BIGOXMedia wa that definitely sounds like a bigOX original 😂
@nykareem2001
@nykareem2001 9 күн бұрын
10 Best Power Forward Seasons Ever 1. 2003 Tim Duncan 2. 2004 Kevin Garnett 3. 2006 Dirk Nowitzki 4. 2022 Giannis Antentekounmpo 5. 1990 Charles Barkley 6. 2018 Anthony Davis 7. 1998 Karl Malone 8. 2010 Pau Gasol 9. 2016 Draymond Green 10. 1987 Kevin McHale
@tusharbisht6832
@tusharbisht6832 9 күн бұрын
I’d switch Giannis to 3, Davis to 5, Karl to 6 and draymond above Gasol. But overall pretty much agree good list
@NothingElseMattersJM
@NothingElseMattersJM 8 күн бұрын
@@tusharbisht6832 AD and Karl have a similar peak but Karl has way more longevity. How are they close ?
@tusharbisht6832
@tusharbisht6832 7 күн бұрын
@@NothingElseMattersJM I don’t think Davis is close to Karl all time, the list is peak seasons If it was all time Malone 2-4 Davis 6-9 I feel
@KThree313
@KThree313 9 күн бұрын
Great content, gotta keep Jordan on his takes bring the old pc panel vibes back but strictly basketball talk which in my opinion makes it this better.
@hjalmarskytnielsen9383
@hjalmarskytnielsen9383 9 күн бұрын
Jordan be saying all This crazy shit i hardcore disagrees with and then he has Draymond Green at and everything is forgiven.
@Implementingdynamics
@Implementingdynamics 9 күн бұрын
😂😂disagreement=engagements
@alecl9430
@alecl9430 4 сағат бұрын
The KAT impression is insanity
@NostradamussSchalke
@NostradamussSchalke 9 күн бұрын
Big ox hate for giannis is so weird lmao big fella you look goofy
@BIGOXMedia
@BIGOXMedia 9 күн бұрын
Get off your knees, I’m entitled to my own opinion.
@nh_flex8922
@nh_flex8922 9 күн бұрын
@@BIGOXMedianot even glazing it’s obvious u hate him can’t even hide it
@mom3ntousjatt
@mom3ntousjatt 9 күн бұрын
@@BIGOXMediadamn, people cant say anything without getting that homophobic ass retort. It aint that serious, he attacked your take not you as a person dont gotta take it that hard damn
@ninoboom2453
@ninoboom2453 9 күн бұрын
@@BIGOXMedia gang you should be the last mf to tell someone to get off their knees, how you be glazing role players
@BIGOXMedia
@BIGOXMedia 9 күн бұрын
@@nh_flex8922 I’m always praising Giannis
@KevinLewis-p2q
@KevinLewis-p2q 4 күн бұрын
Manu over klay is crazy. Because klay got 4. He was elite. He defended and scored more having klay under manu is nasty
@user-gc2ln8fy1f
@user-gc2ln8fy1f 9 күн бұрын
If only production matters whats the problem with Giannis ? Its crazy that someone who doesn't know the sport can be a MVP level player for multiple years
@Matthew-xl5bc
@Matthew-xl5bc 9 күн бұрын
Dirk>Giannis is disrespectful to the game of basketball. I can't yall basketball heads respect a big with no zero and was a limited passer.
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports 9 күн бұрын
I think i explained why i had dirk 4 giannis 5 without being disrespectful
@Matthew-xl5bc
@Matthew-xl5bc 9 күн бұрын
​@@MarzTalksSportsI get Dirk>Giannis from longevity standpoint but I don't value longevity as much so for me I got Giannis over Dirk kinda easily. My main issue is when people (not you) cap for Dirk's defense and passing.
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports 9 күн бұрын
@@Matthew-xl5bc oh yeah i get you,peak for peak giannis>>> dirk imo
@tusharbisht6832
@tusharbisht6832 9 күн бұрын
@@Matthew-xl5bc how you feel about peak Giannis vs kd? Just curious
@MegaKhalid121
@MegaKhalid121 9 күн бұрын
How is it disrespectful? Dirk scores wayyyyy better
@pensarebasketball
@pensarebasketball 9 күн бұрын
Rasheed Wallace is underrated. Stats don't speak to how great he was but his impact is undeniable. Dude did nothing but win his whole career.
@rashonduswashington4025
@rashonduswashington4025 9 күн бұрын
Where would rank him in the power forwards?
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports 9 күн бұрын
I think hes underrated but also shouldnt be anywhere near this list,theres a time and a place to speak on rasheed and how good he was. a top 10 PFs of all time list probably isnt that time
@pensarebasketball
@pensarebasketball 8 күн бұрын
@@MarzTalksSports I think he deserves an honourable mention. His numbers just don't do his impact justice. But fourth quarter, championship on the line, there are not 12 PFs in league history I take over him. I factor 2-way impact, scoring diversity, ability to play off the ball, stretch the floor, that high release and ability to be a go-to scorer. Watch his series against the Lakers. Dude really doesn't get enough credit.
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports 8 күн бұрын
@@pensarebasketball i agree he doesnt get enough credit absolutely,this whole platform appears to be high on him
@NostradamussSchalke
@NostradamussSchalke 9 күн бұрын
Giannis is top 3 y’all tripping
@ninoboom2453
@ninoboom2453 9 күн бұрын
You didn’t know PC don’t really like Giannis??
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports 9 күн бұрын
peak for peak id probably have giannis at 3 or 4 but i dont think im tripping for my explanation
@NostradamussSchalke
@NostradamussSchalke 9 күн бұрын
@@MarzTalksSports I don’t see the argument for KG over giannis I really don’t
@ronnellrandle569
@ronnellrandle569 9 күн бұрын
@@NostradamussSchalkefacts
@christh6583
@christh6583 9 күн бұрын
Ron and Jordan are the biggest casual talking about PPG in the Spurs argument
@davidheard6356
@davidheard6356 9 күн бұрын
Jordan is a 2000s boomer and I watched the game in the 2000s. Within his perspective he predicate his view of the game off eye test and base level stats. And plenty of times base arguments off of players swapping eras to use as an argument towards value. Which is cool but incredibly flawed considering how each era played basketball and how that either increases/decreases a players value compared to another player
@drenchmansports
@drenchmansports 9 күн бұрын
Nice explanation, but not true
@dariofrancis6378
@dariofrancis6378 4 күн бұрын
When Charles and Karl were on the Dream Team, both in thier prime, Charles showed he was better.... The coaching staff saw it... And the production proved it
@jason15212
@jason15212 9 күн бұрын
Ginobli wasn’t the 2nd option his rookie year. He wasn’t the player we know until 2005. 2003 was Duncan Parker Stack and then Rose Admiral and Ginobli.
@Xanax88653
@Xanax88653 7 күн бұрын
1:35:27 jordan the main guy talking about he don’t care how it looks now it’s giannis doesn’t know how tot play basketball 😂😂
@nothingbutnet2776
@nothingbutnet2776 9 күн бұрын
HOW TF IS GIANNIS NOT 2
@Implementingdynamics
@Implementingdynamics 9 күн бұрын
@@nothingbutnet2776 how is giannis better than kg?
@SkodenMOC
@SkodenMOC 9 күн бұрын
he needs to add more longevity to his prime be at the 2nd spot…
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports 9 күн бұрын
i think i explained why he not 2 for me
@ronnellrandle569
@ronnellrandle569 9 күн бұрын
@@Implementingdynamicshe can actually lead his team to being a title contender kg could never but go ahead just use he had no help argument and act like Giannis has played on some super team
@Implementingdynamics
@Implementingdynamics 9 күн бұрын
@@ronnellrandle569 Interesting point: You know giannis averaged KG career high in the playoffs (35pts) in his finals series?😭But nah I just wanted to see what was his viewpoints to say giannis>kg.
@howitzdone8992
@howitzdone8992 9 күн бұрын
Chill is making super Rodman he wasn’t Detroit Rodman on the perimeter and later Rodman gaurding bigs at the same time 😂
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports 9 күн бұрын
THANKYOU
@howitzdone8992
@howitzdone8992 9 күн бұрын
@@MarzTalksSports we know ball ball man Dray clears
@YangoBord
@YangoBord 8 күн бұрын
I’ve thought Draymond was better for a long time but I thought I was the only one😂 it’s refreshing to hear others feel the same too
@NothingElseMattersJM
@NothingElseMattersJM 8 күн бұрын
@@howitzdone8992 Depends on how much you value Rodman’s rebounding. It’s very close between the two.
@howitzdone8992
@howitzdone8992 8 күн бұрын
@@NothingElseMattersJM will never be a time where I think some1 is better on both sides of the ball and the other guy being a better rebounder would win him the argument
@tdgbino3895
@tdgbino3895 2 күн бұрын
Nah agreeing with draymond not being top 10 is crazy. He’s definitely in the top 10. That GSW ball movement went through him a lot of the times.
@officialKidIso
@officialKidIso 6 күн бұрын
I’ll be honest about the manu debate. I think he’s one of the few spurs that without Pop would have had a great career because of his skill and in his prime he was really athletic too. A pick and roll combo guard that score at all three levels and play pretty good defense. Pop actually tried to tame a lot of what manu did which is why I think he wasn’t as successful from jump.
@dy1178
@dy1178 9 күн бұрын
Jordan: “y’all just care how it looks” “idc if you have to kick it in if you’re productive.” Also Jordan: “Giannis doesn’t know how to play basketball.” “He just dunks.” Need some consistency bro.
@drenchmansports
@drenchmansports 9 күн бұрын
You also need some context. It’s a total different thing when im talkin about ranking players of all time .. not when im talking about a playoff series!! Some people take statements to literal with no context involved.. but since you want to bring up my Iverson Quote .. Iverson is more skilled than Giannis
@dy1178
@dy1178 8 күн бұрын
@@drenchmansports my point is that based on your logic Giannis’ “lack of skill” should be irrelevant due to his dominance on the court. You can’t penalize one player for that and not another. I don’t think you had a bad list today or anything but that line of argument stood out to me as inconsistent
@drenchmansports
@drenchmansports 8 күн бұрын
@@dy1178 i have him on the list , so i obviously think he is dominant. Here’s what I’m saying now The reason why your trying to argue that my points are “ inconsistent “ is because your trying to tie one argument into another argument.. in which there’s no correlation. The context is totally different. And so is the criteria .. does that make sense ?
@jeremiahsmith7706
@jeremiahsmith7706 9 күн бұрын
For the people that believe Kevin McHale is better than AD, I'd like to hear why. Because AD is better than Kevin at every aspect of basketball except post-game (which AD is also great at). AD is a better scorer, rebounder, shooter, ball-handler, and defender. AD also has more accolades in a shorter time. Kev having 2 more rings shouldn't bridge that gap.
@NothingElseMattersJM
@NothingElseMattersJM 8 күн бұрын
Probably the efficiency and they’re giving him bonus points since he didn’t have the ability to take as many shots as he could on that team. Also, Kevin McHale was an 80% ft shooter so he definitely could shoot lol. I’m just playing devils advocate. I think AD is better but McHale is slept on
@DameFreshTV
@DameFreshTV 9 күн бұрын
Boy def a casual, but today's episode was hilarious. He got so mad at Marz for thinking Manu would be good.
@biveksubba2041
@biveksubba2041 9 күн бұрын
Ngl very entertaining episode 8.5/10. I love the energy, but I still feel like we need people like Gifted who are very knowledgeable so they can explain their ranking better. But still amazing episode, love the energy from Marz especially with Jordan and him going back and fort.
@imbetter14
@imbetter14 9 күн бұрын
Can u keep rating panel vids
@chintube3485
@chintube3485 8 күн бұрын
These Giannis takes can’t be taken serious. Giannis is a top 2 power forward ever.
@PyrexWipper_
@PyrexWipper_ 9 күн бұрын
Ox peach optimos is INSANE 😂ox done messed around in the devils lettuce from time to time
@BIGOXMedia
@BIGOXMedia 9 күн бұрын
🔥🔥🔥
@Dusty3967
@Dusty3967 9 күн бұрын
@@BIGOXMedia peach Optimos is just a bad cigar choice 😂
@BIGOXMedia
@BIGOXMedia 9 күн бұрын
@@Dusty3967 I wouldn’t recommend it
@mick-wz6yu
@mick-wz6yu 9 күн бұрын
I swear Ron and ox couldn’t have a correct take if they tried.
@trevorrobinson8652
@trevorrobinson8652 8 күн бұрын
Duncan.. Garnett.. Charles..
@howitzdone8992
@howitzdone8992 9 күн бұрын
Chill u can’t have Rodman a top 3 defender ever when sum of his best years he was barely playing half the game and then say ginobili can’t be this high cuz he was a rotational piece when he played more minutes than the starters, and also Rodman wasn’t starting early on either
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports 9 күн бұрын
good catch
@howitzdone8992
@howitzdone8992 9 күн бұрын
@@MarzTalksSports Chill falloff need to be studied
@dennisgalindo858
@dennisgalindo858 9 күн бұрын
Jordan a walking contradiction. Then he acts like he’s in the right
@howitzdone8992
@howitzdone8992 9 күн бұрын
Dray is so clear of Rodman
@tusharbisht6832
@tusharbisht6832 6 күн бұрын
Tim Duncan carrying in 03 continues to get more traction for bizarre reasons, the gap between Tim Duncan and the second best player was astronomical yes. The team played basketball well with good perimeter defence and different players stepping up in playmaking and scoring in different games. The run was also weaker than people like to believe the 03 lakers were worse than the previous 3 years Kobe hurt and his chemistry with Shaq off. Horry not hitting the bright side of a barn, role player injuries. The mavs their best comp had Dirk go down. A lot of stuff happened and the gap between Duncan and the second best player is one of the biggest ever on a title team. Not a carry though (stop translating lack of second option to lack of help)
@PrinceDJj
@PrinceDJj 9 күн бұрын
Secondly, I like this list. This is probably the best one, but my top three are: - Duncan - KG - Giannis However, I would place AD at number 6. Other than that, it's a very good list.
@NothingElseMattersJM
@NothingElseMattersJM 7 күн бұрын
Do you rank Malone ?
@PrinceDJj
@PrinceDJj 7 күн бұрын
@@NothingElseMattersJM Yeah
@anthonybrooks6022
@anthonybrooks6022 9 күн бұрын
Thank u marz for constantly pointing out how dumb Jordan or / coach whatever his name is be sounding when he makes his takes .. I don't see why he has the name coach his basketball knowledge is like the knowledge of a 12 year old
@drenchmansports
@drenchmansports 9 күн бұрын
Sure
@xavierb9061
@xavierb9061 9 күн бұрын
Manu overated. How you win 3 titles and 3 guys get fmvp before you but get so much praise.
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports 9 күн бұрын
W accolade merchant. also 4 titles not 3
@hjalmarskytnielsen9383
@hjalmarskytnielsen9383 9 күн бұрын
@@xavierb9061 because FMVP voters were wrong
@Bolt_btw
@Bolt_btw 9 күн бұрын
Giannis 2nd best PF OF ALL TIME
@ronnellrandle569
@ronnellrandle569 9 күн бұрын
Facts
@cam9489
@cam9489 9 күн бұрын
I like Jordan bring him back up
@bigfoote6356
@bigfoote6356 9 күн бұрын
Marz don't kill yourself arguing with with special people
@Senseicjj
@Senseicjj 9 күн бұрын
Nah fr
@birdo9039
@birdo9039 9 күн бұрын
Manu was great…in his role. Too much projection to try & justify him making the top 10, he was indeed a role player. A dynamic role player, maybe the most elite role player to ever play but he ain’t a top 10 shooting guard of all time.
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports 9 күн бұрын
cap
@hjalmarskytnielsen9383
@hjalmarskytnielsen9383 9 күн бұрын
@@birdo9039 he was Top 10 playing that Role he did
@birdo9039
@birdo9039 9 күн бұрын
lol I ain’t gon lie idk if Manu was even top 5 in the 2000’s bra
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports 9 күн бұрын
@@birdo9039 lol
@hjalmarskytnielsen9383
@hjalmarskytnielsen9383 9 күн бұрын
@@birdo9039 thats not even a conversation to be honest
@rowdystarks402
@rowdystarks402 7 күн бұрын
Cant believe Ron said Giannis better than Barkley n da post and rebounding. U wildin my boy
@zuridurham3727
@zuridurham3727 9 күн бұрын
Tim Duncan should’ve won MVP In 1999
@malachi975
@malachi975 5 күн бұрын
Is Chris Webber vs Blake Griffin not a conversation
@erikpuka2627
@erikpuka2627 9 күн бұрын
Malone is easily no.1
@Michael-wt3rp
@Michael-wt3rp 7 күн бұрын
im convinced the harden ai convo is only happening cause people just like ai more than harden and dont actually care about the basketball 😂
@matthewburke5044
@matthewburke5044 4 күн бұрын
Ron wtf does him being the third leading scorer have to do with??? Somebody has to be the third leading scorer regardless if your trash
@rodneyharvey8938
@rodneyharvey8938 7 күн бұрын
I literally fastforward to the of list
@dukedidit_tv
@dukedidit_tv 9 күн бұрын
Apparently Ron thinks Stephen Jackson is better than Lebron
@jason15212
@jason15212 9 күн бұрын
Rasheed was a dog. His numbers would sky rocket today
@Kidgleeced
@Kidgleeced 7 күн бұрын
Jordan makes no sense cuz the sentiment behind Draymond is if he wasn’t on the warriors he would be out the league and he’s top 10 but Manu is not top 10 because he’s the product of the system???
@chuckysheed
@chuckysheed 9 күн бұрын
What is this argument. When we’re talking about Giannis, we talk about his ability on offense. Saying that his game isn’t skilled because he doesn’t get touched as much is crazy. He does get touched and it doesn’t do anything. Another thing, regardless if players are allowed to touch him or not, it still won’t take away from the fact that Giannis in my opinion is one of the best transition players as a big man in history. His ability to penetrate the ball at his size is crazy which is something most bigs can’t do. Getting to the rim, playmaking ability, improving post play. It’s all a great skill for him. If he wasn’t using his size and wasn’t being a big man then we would be looking at him like how everyone views Ayton. A big that doesn’t want to play big. My PF list: 1. Tim Duncan. . . . . 2. Dirk 3. That Vermin (#32) 4. KG 5. Giannis
@ronnellrandle569
@ronnellrandle569 9 күн бұрын
Giannis be at 5 is still crazy to me
@chuckysheed
@chuckysheed 9 күн бұрын
@@ronnellrandle569 I mean yeah. But when you look at it. Before he’s 30, he’s already a two time MVP, a former DPOY, Bucks all time leading scorer, rebounder, assists, and blocks. One of 7 players to score 50 in the finals. It’s good, but it’s not enough right now for him to be higher than 5. But to me he passed Barkley when he became #1 leading scorer for the Bucks.
@ronnellrandle569
@ronnellrandle569 9 күн бұрын
@@chuckysheed he passed Barkley when he won a ring😂
@AllStarKydd
@AllStarKydd Күн бұрын
How is Dirk better than KG?
@AllStarKydd
@AllStarKydd Күн бұрын
Ox be absolutely out of his mind…smh
@nabylingnabyling7658
@nabylingnabyling7658 14 сағат бұрын
Y’all hate on manu he cooked wade bron duncan etc in the Olympics
@matthewburke5044
@matthewburke5044 4 күн бұрын
Ron just makes shit up when he hears things.
@howitzdone8992
@howitzdone8992 9 күн бұрын
TD KG 32 Dirk Yaya AD Chuck Mchale Hayes Pettit Dray
@jayjay8716
@jayjay8716 9 күн бұрын
no giannis is wild
@howitzdone8992
@howitzdone8992 9 күн бұрын
@@jayjay8716 he’s 5 😂
@thatBRUDDA.
@thatBRUDDA. 9 күн бұрын
Im really really tired of this guys…
@aidenreyes9261
@aidenreyes9261 9 күн бұрын
Yall saying skills don’t go anywhere if you’re starting or on the bench. But what happened to Jordan Poole? His skills didn’t go anywhere but being the number 1 on a team is difficult not trying to say manu is Jordan poole but yall are acting like a guy can just transfer over and be great
@hjalmarskytnielsen9383
@hjalmarskytnielsen9383 9 күн бұрын
Marz compromising on his ideals to not ruin the list. W teammate. L integrity.
@BIGOXMedia
@BIGOXMedia 9 күн бұрын
Definitely L integrity
@nabylingnabyling7658
@nabylingnabyling7658 15 сағат бұрын
Y’all didn’t rate Jerry west ? 😮😮😮
@FreshyRosay1
@FreshyRosay1 6 күн бұрын
Jordan is a barber shop basketball talker. He knows little beyond PPG and feigns ignorance when his points and contradictions are presented to him. How are you going to call someone a nerd for challenging the numbers YOU brought up.
@babatunde4335
@babatunde4335 9 күн бұрын
7:50 Ron got saved by the bell here
@RonTheeDon
@RonTheeDon 9 күн бұрын
😅😅😅
@jeremiahsmith7706
@jeremiahsmith7706 9 күн бұрын
1:29:02 AD clears Rasheed. That's not even a discussion. Dude peaked at 19 and 8. Ox can't make an objective list to save his life. I'm more surprised at Swipa having AD so low at 10. L Swipa
@BIGOXMedia
@BIGOXMedia 9 күн бұрын
If you judged Sheed off his game instead of by stats maybe you would feel different. If you didn’t watch ball before 2014 that’s on you.
@matthewburke5044
@matthewburke5044 4 күн бұрын
Ron do you listen at all??? Nobody said those young spurs weren't contributing, but they weren't good yet.
@denzellwilliams7419
@denzellwilliams7419 7 күн бұрын
Vince Carter not on the sg list is crazy
@matthewburke5044
@matthewburke5044 5 күн бұрын
Bruh you are wasting your time saying numbers to jordan other then the box score. He's somehow a coach but has zero analytics involved in today's day and age
@anthonywashington2197
@anthonywashington2197 9 күн бұрын
Best Power Forwards ever Tim Duncan Karl Malone Kevin Garnett Kevin McHale Elvin Hayes Chris Webber Charles Barkley Dennis Rodman Connie Hawkins Bob McAdoo Dirk Norwitski Horace Grant Derrick Coleman Shawn Kemp Bob Petit Pau Gasol Bobby Jones Larry Johnson
@thatBRUDDA.
@thatBRUDDA. 9 күн бұрын
Interesting
@only1wizardkelly170
@only1wizardkelly170 9 күн бұрын
Swipa loves JT more than chill i just figured it out!!!!
@reimeralgabre2986
@reimeralgabre2986 9 күн бұрын
How can Ron still be casual after being in the panel for years. Either do your homework or just host. Can't stand that 03 Spurs debate.
@hjalmarskytnielsen9383
@hjalmarskytnielsen9383 9 күн бұрын
Analytics kills your enjoyment of the game but it has helped make the actual playing off the game better at winning games.
@felipecornejo7309
@felipecornejo7309 9 күн бұрын
All it did was let non basketball people into the game for money
@BIGOXMedia
@BIGOXMedia 9 күн бұрын
@@felipecornejo7309 They not gunna like this
@felipecornejo7309
@felipecornejo7309 9 күн бұрын
@@BIGOXMedia oh well
@hjalmarskytnielsen9383
@hjalmarskytnielsen9383 9 күн бұрын
@@felipecornejo7309 i would argue the opposite. A lot of People in the media thats considered analytics guys if you listen to Them puts the most Work into studying basketball and watching tape. On PC you Can hear a guy like Marz is clearly watching a lot of different tape if its available.
@hjalmarskytnielsen9383
@hjalmarskytnielsen9383 8 күн бұрын
@@felipecornejo7309 yes but if it makes a team better why shouldnt it. Physical therapy Also allows non basketball People into the game for money.
@SenseiDbo
@SenseiDbo 9 күн бұрын
Who was dude in the bottom left. Mans was a goof 😂
@l3gendarysage293
@l3gendarysage293 9 күн бұрын
Anthony Davis should’ve been over Barkley easily
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports 9 күн бұрын
i was the only one who had him
@l3gendarysage293
@l3gendarysage293 9 күн бұрын
@@MarzTalksSports swipa a hater chill and ox is old and Ron don’t know basketball smh
@ChristianMedina-fe1kf
@ChristianMedina-fe1kf 9 күн бұрын
If uk anything about body building uk that just bcuz 2 ppl are 240 doesn’t mean they the same size .u could tell a lot looking at a persons shoulders
@canadadry4609
@canadadry4609 5 күн бұрын
I'll hold it against malone why they never won. He was a choke artist. 97 finals he looked like he was gonna crap his pants in all the close games. He wasnt ready for the moment. Missed free throws for rge game and even beyond that sucked in big moments . Missing critical free throws in the playoffs is not uncommon at all fir malone either. Having said all that hes up there on the list due to resume, accomplishments, and longevity. But lets keep the narrative clear. When the going got tough malone got running.
@SkodenMOC
@SkodenMOC 9 күн бұрын
Power Fowards by Tier Top 10 SS Tier: Tim Duncan 🍯😜 S Tier: KG, Giannis A Tier: Dirk, He Not Like Us, AD, Barkley B Tier: Hayes, McHale, Webber (robbed of a chip run in 2002💔) honorable mentions: Bob Petit, Pau Gasol, Amare Stoudemire, Blake Griffin, Shawn Kemp
@howitzdone8992
@howitzdone8992 9 күн бұрын
Get yaya outta kg tier
@SkodenMOC
@SkodenMOC 9 күн бұрын
@@howitzdone8992 nah, he like dat
@howitzdone8992
@howitzdone8992 9 күн бұрын
@@SkodenMOC just not yet
@SkodenMOC
@SkodenMOC 9 күн бұрын
@@howitzdone8992 that’s fine, I understand the longevity Dirk Malone and KG have, I think at least Giannis peaked higher than Dirk and Malone, but comparable to KG’s…
@hjalmarskytnielsen9383
@hjalmarskytnielsen9383 9 күн бұрын
@@SkodenMOC KG in the same tier as Duncan they are neck and neck
@HectorConCarne23
@HectorConCarne23 9 күн бұрын
Kevin McHale wouldn’t do anything against AD
@canadadry4609
@canadadry4609 4 күн бұрын
He averaged 15 what you mean he wasn't that good 😂😂😂 Jordan kills me. Its all about ppg.
@godzillasuplex8590
@godzillasuplex8590 8 күн бұрын
Mars has found a good nemesis
@Kalinbuggs
@Kalinbuggs 7 күн бұрын
Mannnn Manu in games without Tim & Parker the same damn player not ahead of all those guys in the top 10. Manu with the defense FOCUS on him. I think Manu would be great but isn’t a good as the guys y’all have on the top 10 list
@MarcelGoat
@MarcelGoat 9 күн бұрын
When is Marz going to stop ducking the jalen green debate against Jordan
@MarzTalksSports
@MarzTalksSports 9 күн бұрын
never
@Archburner
@Archburner 9 күн бұрын
Great episode.
@Steelo832
@Steelo832 9 күн бұрын
Buddy no longer making Houston look bad. Just the north shore kids lmaoo
@drenchmansports
@drenchmansports 9 күн бұрын
Sure. Good thing I’m stamped in north shore area though. Throughout Houston too tbh. 🤷🏾‍♂️ IYKYK
@Steelo832
@Steelo832 9 күн бұрын
@@drenchmansports I’m stamped where I need to be in the city too so salute. But basketball convo wise, idk how you have the opinions you have.
@drenchmansports
@drenchmansports 9 күн бұрын
@@Steelo832where you from? Im sure i can figure it out … basketball wise i tell you why i have the opinions that i have .. if you listen and not get on semantics so you can respond then you’d get it. But everything not for everybody
@Steelo832
@Steelo832 8 күн бұрын
@@drenchmansports nawfside but I be around everywhere, and fasho I don’t do semantics, just go off what people say and what I see when watching the game
@Jalen-sm1op
@Jalen-sm1op 7 күн бұрын
Only good take Jordan has had in his PC tenure: Giannis don’t know how to play basketball lol. Salute to him
@kashonorr2852
@kashonorr2852 8 күн бұрын
Swipa think he know everything
@AllStarKydd
@AllStarKydd 2 күн бұрын
AND ALL THIS MANU TALK IS CRAZY…MANU ISN’T BETTER THAN KLAY, REGGIE, DUMARS, ETC. HE A GOOD PLAYER, BUT HE NOT ANYWHERE NEAR TOP 10 SG
@hjalmarskytnielsen9383
@hjalmarskytnielsen9383 9 күн бұрын
Analytics doesnt take away hot hand and rythm you Can make statistical measurement to see if these thing exist. At include it in Your metrics.
@malachi975
@malachi975 5 күн бұрын
No Blake is crazy
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