OKC Thunder Assert Their DOMINANCE in BLOWOUT vs the Cleveland Cavaliers | The Panel

[@MarzTalksSports]

PC all star weekend gonna be 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@saadwani9175]

Yo Marz, somewhat off topic but how big is the gap defensively between dereck lively and chet. And what are the things you think chet does better as a rim protector and generally other than fouling less?

[@itszaaaamzeh]

@@saadwani9175 Chet be being bullied I got DEREK

[@BIGOXMedia]

Can’t wait to sky diving or surfing bro. Your choice, it’s gunna be a blast!!!!

[@77STOMP]

Sga shooting 59.9 from 2 being outrageous is an understatement lol. But Luka last yr shooting 58.1% from 2 on what is prob the worst spacing playoff team is insane lol. Also btw he was shooting 38% on 10 pull up 3s lol. Luka and sga are 2 of the top 5 best 2pt scoring guards ever

[@jeremiahsmith7706]

Hearing Ox say SGA better than Luka made me wanna pull my hair out. Luka was 34/9/9 last year on like 61% TS. SGA this year isn't better than Luka last year, yet somehow he's surpassed Jokic and Luka? Nasty.

[@elijah6757]

@@jeremiahsmith7706i think ox is mostly trolling when he says sga above jokic, but sga above luka based on this year is valid for sure. luka is definitely better based on body of work but we’re talking about today, and luka has had a down year efficiency wise

[@jeremiahsmith7706]

@elijah6757 Luka has been hurt. Also I've never been a fan of changing your ranking frequently. If it's hard to crack the top 10, it should be hard to move up and down within it as well.

[@elijah6757]

@ i think that fair for sure, and luka being injured definitely has a part to play in the narrative around him today, he started off the season terrible but he got back to league average efficiency within like 12 games💀 i understand what you’re saying 100%

[@elijah6757]

@ i think a full year sample size is enough to move up or down in the top 10 tho respectfully

[@Matthew-xl5bc]

2:35:08 Giannis was the clear cut MVP in 2020. NBA media members like Rachel Nicholas was using Kobe's death as a way to help LeBron's MVP. Giannis earned that MVP.

[@johnathannabors3426]

LeBron definitely deserved to be in the convo he led the league in assists, they were on they way to 60 plus wins and when him and Giannis at in they matchup Bron bullied him in the 4th quarter

[@Matthew-xl5bc]

​@@johnathannabors3426The Bucks were on pace to win 70 games before the bubble and using one game as an MVP case it weird to me. Giannis two way dominance on a consistent basis made him the clear front runner.

[@thedepresseddog6035]

Bro the Bucks were 56-17 and the lakers were 52-19. Bucks were not a 70 win team.

[@1wakil540]

Gifted saying “yea” and repeating wat marz said the whole episode was annoying😂

[@PapaFurnace]

Mitchell got shut down twice against OKC. I remember last time yall were calling it a “bad game”. Dorture chamber is fr

[@tayluc777]

They got Marz looking like Bodie Broadus from the Wire on that graphic 😂

[@Thunderup01]

This is sga 3 season average 30. Last season is not a small sample size. This is nothing new just adding a few things to his game but third year putting up 30 is insane

[@a_proper_snail]

Shout out to PC today for the great okc convo’s. Definitely feel like the conversation around them is a lot closer to where it should be than where it was before. Special shout out to Marz, I feel like he has consistently been the most knowledgeable/accurate imo when it comes to discussing okc. Also Aaron Wiggins for MVP don’t be sleep.

[@MarzTalksSports]

🫡

[@officerricky3230]

Maturing is realizing chill a casual 😞

[@Senseicjj]

Sadly 😞

[@XolileNompumelelo-ps9ti]

Ox and Jordan are casuals

[@Senseicjj]

@ 😂😂

[@448DamonXX]

@@XolileNompumelelo-ps9ti they all are 🤣🤣

[@PlayersChoiceShow]

❌

[@pensarebasketball]

Statisitcally the OKC Thunder this year are the best team since the 97' Bulls. Best defense of the century. Time to put some respect on SGA.

[@BIGOXMedia]

lol yea maybe statistically but we can all see that that’s just not true…. Still respect SGA

[@rashonduswashington]

I guess. Great player imo but can get overrated a lot

[@a_proper_snail]

@@BIGOXMediaDefensively speaking I’d say there is a very real case for that.

[@aherbo18]

@@BIGOXMediawhat are you seeing that makes it not true? Or at least what dosen’t put them in that conversation? I’m genuinely asking btw. Because when I watch (I’m a Thunder fan so take my opinion with a grain of salt) I see 6-7 deep in guards/wings that can swarm the ball handler better than anyone else in the league, great hands and IQ, and then great rim protection with Hartenstein and Chet when he was playing. They also have a great defensive schemer in Daigneault. I’m not sure I’ve seen a coach better at putting opposing bigs in bad situations. Everything I’m watching correlates with what the numbers indicate.

[@a_proper_snail]

⁠@@aherbo18There is several things to contest in the OP. Best team statistically since 97. Obviously not the best team since 97 I’d agree with. Best defense of the century? Definitely an argument for that, there are arguments for some other teams (04 pistons and spurs) but okc def in the convo.

[@01chohan]

In all fairness the Mavs last year were a dark horse to make it to the finals. I don't think people expected them to beat OKC and Minnesota. Dallas is less of a dark horse this year though.

[@buusa]

imagine they won tht ring that would’ve been one of the most valuable rings in recent times

[@randommoments5894]

@@buusatrue it would put Luka in top 15 conversation and some people would definitely have him top ten

[@pensarebasketball]

Was there a Panelist who said OKC was gonna win a championship this year 4-5 months ago in the offseason? Has that Panelist then reiterated that point 100 times since then? 👀👀 Asking for a friend. This is the best group of individual defenders on one team I've ever seen in my lifetime. Top 2 player, top 5 coach in the league. Yeah, if they don't win a championship, I'll be super surprised

[@mar6clark23]

Best coach*

[@rashonduswashington]

Playoffs not here yet

[@mar6clark23]

@ what does that have to do with anything

[@448DamonXX]

@@mar6clark23 he’s just old so his brain doesn’t work correctly

[@rashonduswashington]

@@mar6clark23 I’m just saying playoffs aren’t here yet

[@blitzandgoo]

Some of yall pick and choose when you care about defense. Talk about how you value a star that plays defense until it goes against what you think. I dont even want to think about how ass the spurs defense would be if you swap paolo and wemby. Defense only matters when you want to argue against someone who isn’t a good defender.

[@smoodjazz]

I'm so glad I found this channel .....good sound discussions from the brothas ....keep that energy guys

[@PlayersChoiceShow]

Only getting better! Appreciate you

[@aherbo18]

As a Thunder fan I physically cringe when Dort puts the ball on the floor lmao. But it’s a lot better than it used to be because during the 20-21 season he was legitimately our secondary ball handler😭I had to witness so many Lu Dort/Al Horford pick and rolls…I DESERVE this season⚡️⚡️

[@Wrestle_Kingdom]

Bro as a thunder fan I couldn’t agree more Lu get a lot of hate on offense but he came a long way from what he use to be I enjoying every moment of us being a contender again That season brought back so many memories I remember when okc fans thought Darius bazley and Moses brown was going to be something

[@aherbo18]

@ Hey man Moses Brown was Kareem Abdul Jabbar for about 5 days🤣🤣

[@hjalmarskytnielsen9383]

Per 36 minutes: AI 01: 26,7 points. SGA 25: 33,2 points Now this is not a perfect comparison because it is not sure that SGA could score so much more if he played more minutes. And they play in vastly different offensive systems

[@nykareem2001]

There’s nothing that 08-10 Kobe Bryant does that Shai can’t do… Until I hear legit logic on why Kobe Bryant is better I’m sticking with my take 2025 Shai > Bryant

[@adrielthenatural]

2025 Shai > LeBron

[@adrielthenatural]

You trolls are a so cringe. Instead of stating the obvious of where 2025 Shai actually mirrors Kobe 08-10. You LeBron fans try to shade Kobe by saying he’s better. The fact of the matter is their playing styles are eerily similar. Especially considering Kobe is his favorite player and he patterns his game after him. As a Kobe fan it makes me proud to see a mid range merchant dominating the league again. SGA is the new Kobe and I hope he gets an opportunity to dust Lefraud James and the fakers in the playoffs. Just like Kobe would have done in 2009 if LeBron didn’t choke in the clutch against Orlando

[@nykareem2001]

@@adrielthenatural You can't even make a case for why Kobe is better than Shai outside of 'HE'S KOBE!!!!!

[@adrielthenatural]

@ I don’t have to make a case… Kobe is a legend and icon and only second to Jordan. Shai hasn’t even been to a conference finals much less being any kind of ICON. Fact of a matter is Shai is playing like an older version of Kobe. There was an athletic version of Kobe that Shai could not even touch. You LeQuitnesses trying to glaze the new Kobe to denigrate the real Kobe is pure buffoonery. I see right through your lies. Fact of the matter is if and when Shai starts winning chips I truly hope that Adam Silver finally embraces competitors like Shai again and we will be finally rid of the dancing instagram LeQueens that he’s allowed to absolutely tank fan interest in the game

[@adrielthenatural]

@@nykareem2001I don’t have to make a case. Kobe is a legend and Icon in the game of basketball. Shai is mimicking an older version of Kobe which is great; but there is a more athletic version of Kobe that Shai cannot even touch. You LeQuitnesses are really trying to minimize Kobe by saying his doppelgänger is better than him… hahaha!!! 08-10 Kobe ran through the league for 3 straight years. Let Shai win 1 before you even start talking. But seeing him doing his thing makes me proud to see as a Kobe fan. And when he wins his first championship I hope Adam Silver promotes him more than these dancing instagram LeQueens that he’s allowed to drive the NBA ratings to the ground

[@MOE__]

W Show W Harden

[@juliovext999]

OX LAST WORDS : " BRUSH YO TEETH RON " 😂😂😂😂 3:07:29

[@theblackbookclub1]

You guys at all star weekend just makes perfect sense! Have to get marz in the celeb game

[@MarzTalksSports]

we good off that

[@cri3ces.]

Top 10 of episode of all time.

[@jdwilmoth]

This young thunder squad is scary good and they're not even playing at full strength

[@kendrickjenkins96]

2:06:50 The Nuggets are getting annihilated by OKC in a series, be so fr Swipa lmaooo. What OKC's defense does best Denver's players struggle with....ball pressure/decision-making out of ball pressure. Not to mention that twin tower setup they could throw at Jokic He also failed to mention the whole other side of the ball lmao...Denver's defense is trash, they can. not. guard. OKC

[@samuelraji8343]

If OKC run twin towers the only thing they annihilate is margaritas is Cancun. That's a bottom 10 offense right there.

[@Matthew-xl5bc]

2:38:06 I swear Swipa without using on/off numbers struggles to talk basketball. You don't have to use those numbers to make the MVP case for Jokic.

[@abtocool6350]

😂😂, I don’t know why this is funny to me, it’s like a everyday routine for him to bring up the on/off statistics.

[@farhan2394-r7w]

@@abtocool6350bro on playback he was counting players plus / minus. He is actually obsessed

[@hjalmarskytnielsen9383]

You have to be an insane person to think that the Thunder has a worse supporting cast than the Nuggets even without Chet and Hartenstein for some time

[@betweendalinesnbapodcast3733]

That man Chill bet not ever have a pcl debate with marz. Gone have that man yellin and lyin for no reason 😂. Said hartenstein gets in foul trouble just to say it 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@a_proper_snail]

@@betweendalinesnbapodcast3733 In defense of chill he did acknowledge he made that assumption based on the games he watched which were the ones Ihart did get in foul trouble. It’s very evident that chill doesn’t follow okc outside of when they watch them on playback. At the end of the day you can’t watch every game and chill doesn’t use numbers or other media sources to bridge his knowledge gaps as far as I’m aware.

[@huncho5554]

@@a_proper_snail he only watches high marque games / teams like Boston , LA , Thunder vs Cavs every other causal game he doesn’t. You know he doesn’t for example last year he said he was watching Wemby frequently then later convos they were talking about Keldon Johnson. He added to the convo by saying “I gotta pay attention more to keldon” like ?? If you watched the games like you said then you would see

[@Senseicjj]

I might have to skip it, Marz would obliterate him smh

[@sincerlykentrell9316]

Hope y’all kno paolo is comfortably better then franz and until wemby can show he can average 27 7 7 on 45 40 in his first playoffs I’ll stay sayin paolo and wemby longer term not far from eachother

[@ThereGoXay]

4.0 Ast to 4.6 turnovers lol

[@buusa]

wemby will average 25 12 and 4 on WAY better defense, less turnovers on 49 40 and 85. all on a way worse team and in a better conference. and not against a team where their arguably best defender is out.

[@strongbone9471]

​@@ThereGoXay w casual take.

[@ThereGoXay]

@@strongbone9471 he point to paolo playoff averages which were incorrect & I add that had more turnovers than assist

[@strongbone9471]

​@ThereGoXay no context w rebuttal.

[@itszaaaamzeh]

Wemby is more valuable and will probably add more to the net rating of any team as opposed to Paolo and What not. ALL THAT SAID, MAN TO MAN! I GOT PAOLO! PAOLO GON GET ME A BUCKET WHEN I NEED A BUCKET. WEMBY GON NEED SOMEONE TO THROW HIM A LOB 😤😤😤

[@Sevion825]

Wemby gone stop that bucket

[@itszaaaamzeh]

@Sevion825 I SEEN JA DUNK ON WEMBY! STOP WHAT! 3 SHOTS OUTTA 89 PFFFT

[@strongbone9471]

W paolo

[@Sevion825]

@@itszaaaamzeh Ja won’t do it again tho

[@Cityzen-q9t]

Paolo>Wemby

[@EMCAndrew383]

Now way we spent an Hour talking about a blowout L ron

[@PlayersChoiceShow]

L Ron man

[@rashonduswashington]

Paolo shouldn’t be discussed with Wemby imo. The defense gap is massive

[@virtariusjohnson483]

1:21:05 sake argument can used for AI chill been tripping lately

[@carmonbowman5269]

Pc is just not the same nomore at all

[@448DamonXX]

😂😂

[@PlayersChoiceShow]

🫣

[@MarzTalksSports]

should things always be the same?

[@carmonbowman5269]

@@MarzTalksSports change is fine but it’s just not as entertaining no more the goats are gone. And now it’s just you fam

[@MikeLowrry]

Whoever said SGA OVER KOBE NEEDS TO HAVE HIS BRAIN EVALUATED FOR CTE

[@MarJonKRon]

Thunder smacked Cavs like The Bucks rocked them Thunder ⚡🦌💯

[@Spawnwatching]

What does sga do to put him over jokic?

[@joshuathomas4075]

Ox Tyler gave Amen two points and DeRozan got blocked when Amen was on him but he cooked 😂 y'all funny

[@BIGOXMedia]

Tyler did not give Amen 2 points, why would you tell that lie. And Amen made a great defensive play against Demar last night I was very excited about that play on playback (I love hoop over any individual team) but does that one play make up for all the other buckets Demar had?

[@huncho5554]

@@BIGOXMediayeah Tyler herro gave amen 5 pts

[@MarzTalksSports]

@@BIGOXMediait was 5

[@joshuathomas4075]

Fighting thru a screen contesting a three isn't a one on one bucket to me

[@joshuathomas4075]

And Ox you were talking like he gave those to Amen

[@johnnyhiphopandhoops9063]

Okay we gotta start a Stop the bullying campaign 😭😭😭 MarzstopbullyingChill 🤷🏽‍♂️🤣🤣

[@448DamonXX]

😂😂😂😂

[@1Buddie.]

Bullies Should Get Bullied 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@thegreaterconsciousness5997]

We are witnessing the mental decline of chill in real time

[@gamblerc8602]

Chill saying okc and nuggets without joker and sga is on the sane level if he thinks sga carrying his team like joker

[@Hoopsnev3rstop]

Banchero is better than Wemby right now at this moment

[@odiepaul10]

bro SGA was 7th in dpoy voting last year. what are you talking about

[@a_proper_snail]

@@odiepaul10 that’s because voters are casuals.

[@MarzTalksSports]

what are we talking about what

[@pimpnamedslickback7780]

Lmao chilltown never gonna get off that JT bandwagon

[@domr664]

& to chill point sga doing all this with one of the youngest team in the league also don’t get talked about enough

[@dontdoit8496]

please tell jordan to turn down the volume omg this was unlistenable.

[@zuridurham3727]

03 Kobe or 24 Luka who y’all got?

[@themfoneandoly2649]

luka

[@buusa]

kobe easy

[@nykareem2001]

Kobe comfortably

[@448DamonXX]

Luka offensively kobe overall

[@abtocool6350]

I’m taking 03 Kobe

[@Jesuspiece10]

Please take Marz to get a REAL burrito while in the city some of the best Mexican food in the world

[@MarzTalksSports]

👀

[@donaldf9055]

Remember when y'all were hating on pen for his sga take on whether he was on curry and Kobe level but carry on

[@gking3647]

Still a crazy take

[@BIGOXMedia]

Still strongly disagree with that nonsense

[@willjohnwick6911]

Still not on their level.

[@farhan2394-r7w]

Kobe and Curry is different than Allen Iverson

[@MarzTalksSports]

that shit was still wrong lmao,we can praise a man without going overboard

[@KMM5821]

1:58:04 😅

[@Ejayyy-i7o]

Seems like yall never talk about this Lakers much unless it’s controversial and\or to shit on them lol I get it though

[@PlayersChoiceShow]

I mean….

[@Ejayyy-i7o]

@ 😂😂

[@iceymagoo]

I usually skip episodes where Gifted is featured

[@SamGibson-bn1jh]

Why?💀

[@PlayersChoiceShow]

damn

[@NookKnowball]

Banchero not close to Wemby, Y’all delusional

[@Cityzen-q9t]

Why not

[@nykareem2001]

I’ve been saying Paolo is better than that stickman

[@battousaithekingslayer9913]

So now is the cavs the best team in the league still? Or did it only last a week because they beat the thunder once lmaoo

[@XolileNompumelelo-ps9ti]

Paolo is better than sabonis

[@jgreedo420]

Jordan acting like he’s old gimmick 😂

[@ragnarokvein1941]

1:14:00 you can’t learn and change your mind to grow? What is this “I got to stick with that” forever nonsense.

[@sleepwalkingagain]

Mobley played bad again chill needs to stop putting his faith in these soft boys😭

[@Rwade552]

Chill town so washed

[@Senseicjj]

Chill be begging to get cooked now damn lol why does he say the things he says 😭😭😭 it’s getting pretty ridiculous

[@brycewayne8729]

Cuz 99% of all their takes are scripted & non-organic😂 This is all for entertainment. Their idiotic takes is what makes this show good lol. Don't take em serious & enjoy👍🏾

[@Senseicjj]

I don’t need to be told how to interpret the show, preciate it

[@calvinfields1596]

Sounds like you do. Or do you think Chill is an actual idiot?

[@Senseicjj]

@@calvinfields1596 slobbing on it

[@brycewayne8729]

@@calvinfields1596 When it comes to Luka & my Mavs, yes they are idiots lol. Chill & them actually think Jokic, Tatum, nd SGA are on tha same tier as Luka, which is somethin only IDIOTS say

[@Woodydaman01]

Steph kd and lebron getting these votes over the young guys as nothing to with how good they been it we are coming to the end of Steph kd and bron next 5 years they will all be gone so yea the fans are going to vote them guys how many more times will we see these guys

[@macmarksman6]

This “let’s jump chill about Tatum” shit is corny To be so adamant he don’t belong in certain convos but keep talking about it is weird It feel like chasing a easy debate atp

[@huncho5554]

Then tell the old man to let go of the bias and be objective 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@macmarksman6]

@ everybody got a bias They bring up his more then he do is my point

[@huncho5554]

@ saying jt was the second best scorer in the league at one point is not normal “that’s my guy bias” jt having a better midrange than sga is just horrible take and being delusional

[@macmarksman6]

@ Ok so what do u gain going back n forth about a take that horrible? Tatum being the running joke on the show is getting old It’s low hanging fruit

[@PlayersChoiceShow]

Luncho you are hater

[@jayobvious1708]

Does ox have a tat above his eye?

[@BIGOXMedia]

Yea

[@jayobvious1708]

@ what does it say if you don’t mind me askin

[@hjalmarskytnielsen9383]

2025 Chill

[@milothedev]

So gifted a parrot

[@tkbaku3036]

Anthony Davis HAS NOT been better than Lebron this year

[@l3gendarysage293]

You are delusional then

[@GrandeJones]

Oh yall got the parrot on today cya

[@thegreat1885]

SGA not better than Tatum he just got more freedom to do what he wants. The Celtics make Tatum play a system anytime he tries to cook the coach is always telling him to dial it back so others won’t feel left out.

[@kabirmuhummid8141]

tatum had that freedom and ain't do shit with it. sga is better

[@448DamonXX]

That’s tatum’s fault

[@thegreat1885]

@@kabirmuhummid8141I mean he still a champ so clearly he knows how to make it work. Them numbers just won’t be eye popping until the Celtics start to be Tatum reliant in a few years

[@JoshAhlstrom]

He does everything better. He’s a more physical player even though he’s smaller and he’s more skilled. Defensively there’s no gap. Yes Tatum is bigger but Shai is more aggressive and one of the best defensive playmakers in the league.

[@Recurses]

​@thegreat1885 instead of using every Simone biles move to bounce on tatum meat to make excuses for him just admit he's not that good

[@trytv7716]

Marz saying Sga better then 07 bron is one thing, but chill unanimous mvp curry was wrong ? Come on now 😂😂

[@Sevion825]

Yes????

[@Matthew-xl5bc]

LeBron didn't reach his ultra prime untill 2009

[@NookKnowball]

16 curry>07 Bron

[@rashonduswashington]

07 Bron I can understand but 16 curry is leaps and bounds better than both. Now if this was peak Bron it wouldn’t be a question

[@trytv7716]

@@rashonduswashington yall misunderstood what I said, chill was questioning curry unanimous mvp