📖The Most Influential Player In NBA HISTORY🤔 | The Panel

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[@andrebuie2271]

Couldn’t put my finger on it while watching it but swipa looks like teddy long 😂😂😂😂

[@khalilcruz5816]

“ JUST FA DAT YOU GOING ONE ON ONE WITH THA UNDERTAKER” lmao

[@adamup8516]

@@khalilcruz5816BAHAHA 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@sbynum3054]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@TezIsHimTv]

🤣🤣🤣

[@nv3095]

Holla holla

[@MarzTalksSports]

I really enjoyed this episode. W fact ab the 75 warriors W showing love to everyone on the list and appreciating everyone without tearing down anyone else. L host

[@SuperTtrooper]

W likes 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@TheHoopFeed]

Lmfao yo it seems like dudes really hate Ron

[@ericdb35]

swipa look like one of those ppl my mom told me not to answer the door for wen they came knocking😂

[@grumsigrumsi3185]

With all of that Jokic glazing he aint welcome in my home as well. Your mom is right.

[@Spawnwatching]

@@grumsigrumsi3185blud got beef with jokic

[@syzorst]

The fact that Iverson is tied with Bill Russell in terms of influence is ridiculous. Bill Russell did much more for the league than Iverson did.

[@donaldf9055]

But ooh the crossover, oooh the braids. Man smh bro, people think that's more important than not only being the face of the 60's but allowing us to feel free playing bball w/o being scrutinized and revolutionizing the game in general. Man smh bro..

[@GSR-Indictment]

That Comment on the Celtics Winning Chips with Len Bias, the SuperChat was Referring to Reggie Lewis aka Truck, who was an ALL-Star that Died in his 5th Season!…WTF is Chill Talking about with Reggie Williams???😅😅😅

[@gch901]

That Bill Russell segment was elite W Panel

[@sergeistalin7916]

Yeah i feel people sometimes dont grasp the level of influence of Curry, he is for sure 2nd all time in influence. He changed the way teams approach offense as a team. He changed how we view players under 6´5 as possible franchise player as a scorer. He changed how teams see defense and versatility. He changed what is a good defender for a Center. He changed how we view off ball impact. He changed what is expected from a pointguard.

[@SuperTtrooper]

Long as you have him below Bill Russell

[@YpcVixy]

What do you mean people don't grasp Curry influence when most people have him top 3. I agree he is in the top 3 but the changing the game part is getting overstated. He didn't change how we view small guards because still to this day people are saying you can't win with small guards. Curry didn't change how teams play defense the skill around the league changed that because no team will defend Wemby the same way they guard AD. What we expect from a point guard is never the same since Lebron was a forward who handled the ball while the point guard was off-ball. People tend to credit Curry for things he did not do which is crazy to me.

[@sergeistalin7916]

@@YpcVixy My point was mostly because of what you said, most people say he was influential because now teams shoot more 3s. His influense is much more than that. He changed how teams use spacing to create offense. How teams look for quicker 3s to force defenders to open the lane. He changed how we view slower Centers that were there to grab rebounds and protect the rim. Defenders that 10 years ago were elite rim protectors today are a weakness defensively(like Gobert) Now you want shorter centersbut that can guard the perimeter instead of always drop in the screens. Now teams give the keys more to shorter guards. You think you could have a league with Ja Morant, Jalen Brunson, Dame, Trae Young, DeAron Fox, etc as the best players of a team getting big money without Curry?

[@YpcVixy]

@@sergeistalin7916 I’m telling you the talented players change how teams are built today why would teams still want slow footed centers if everyone can create a shot off the dribble. Some of these point guards you name aren’t the best player on their team like fame,fox and some of them aren’t even even contenders because it’s hard to build around small players. Most teams today offense is still revolving around them getting to the basket but the reason they shoot a lot of threes because teams help so drive and kick opportunities happen. The Celtics just won a ring leading the league in 3point attempts they penetrated the paint to create advantages not just sit on the 3point line.

[@sergeistalin7916]

@@YpcVixy The point is teams didnt allow players to create off the dribble and shoot 3s at that rate. If you dribble and center drops, well you run to the rim, dont you daré to take an off the dribble 3. Dame started playing like that in Portland. Is not about this season. Fine Fox is not the best player, still is the number 1 option Doesnt matter if they are contenders, is allowing them to be the number 1 option offensively. Without Curry all those guys would average 18 points and 8 assists like the traditional PG.

[@thegoatdc5635]

hold on a minute playa lol

[@Breakbread1334]

Great convo today. Nice to go back in time and talk about some of these legends.

[@jumi48]

Swipa is absolutely right. Bill Russel should be Nr 1 on the list

[@tanjiroushirogane690]

Dr.J is a better representator

[@donaldf9055]

George mikan

[@retrey63]

This show format is so fire 🔥 maybe Ron ask more PC members I.e del JD shaq etc for lists also so we get some spicy lists

[@DreJ912]

L Ron for letting Yap-A-Lot Records hijack the show AGAIN. I did like his Bill Russel take though. And W Marz

[@MarzTalksSports]

W me

[@juliovext999]

swipa right ??

[@PrinceDJj]

First, it's great to be back watching The Panel. So yeah, Prince is back, but Kobe is in my top five for the most influential players of all time. One reason is what he meant to me and my generation. I'm 26, but I agree with all the points you all made about him. I just wanted to add something. Kobe is my guy because he showed that just because he might have had average hands, a body, or athletic skills for the NBA, that wasn't going to stop him. He was going to work on every skill he could to make sure he was better than everyone. Watching that motivated me as a kid to do the same.

[@MOE__]

Damn I was expecting Ron to be fired

[@Archive_shortss]

That’s crazy 😂😂😂😂😂

[@devonpeterson471]

Chill called J.Randall a traffic director 😂😂

[@PrinceDJj]

Third, Marz you are not the only one who doesn't have any Jordan's I don't have any either But damn y'all got in the video ads now y'all just keep getting better and being the best basketball channel ever

[@jumi48]

This might be the best Episode of the off season

[@acesimmons1531]

1:18:45 aye mo 🤣🤣 where ina dmv pimp getting his cut at Bethesda?? 60 for a cut ina city is crazy

[@grumsigrumsi3185]

100% graduation rate is when everyone is able to buy a graduation.

[@donaldf9055]

Tbh curry is fast ASF. And for me, my list is mikan, curry, Jordan, bill Russell, and LeBron.

[@dj12891]

Yea that picture frame is still crooked as hell 😂

[@MOE__]

L host W marz

[@Ccdssdgvbbbb]

No KD is crazy. It’s like people don’t have eyes nowadays

[@jrob830]

At all

[@jrob830]

They aren't allowed to say anything good about kd

[@Ccdssdgvbbbb]

@@jrob830it’s actually pathetic how much people hate Kd . He’s top 5 most influential at the very least

[@MarzTalksSports]

Where would u have him and who would u have him above. and why is it crazy to not have kd above them?

[@Ccdssdgvbbbb]

@@MarzTalksSports top 5, Kd influenced big men to dribble, run through and pull up from 30 .

[@najegreene420]

Influential straight basketball top 5 iverson Steph kd magic kobe/MJ basically the same

[@Senju_HVM]

2:12:10

[@TheDominiqueBallou]

Classic moment 😂😂

[@Senju_HVM]

@@TheDominiqueBallou most def😅

[@benmota]

No avrydas sabonis ?😂

[@unknownunknown-fi7qn]

Pen losing his mind rn

[@DirtyDev]

AI was the 2000s, nobody embodies that era of youth life in the US like him. Didn’t matter who you were if you were young you probably liked AI and was influenced by him in some way.

[@MarzTalksSports]

@@DirtyDev this is definitely 100% understandable. Its something i feel i just wouldnt understand unless i been through it. AIs impact feels alot more focussed and if u were there for it u probably have him very high. if u werent there for it its probably harder to understand. thats why i left him out,im not gonna pretend to know what i dont know

[@AveryB.0]

1000% he's not as good as some other players, but his cultural impact cannot be understated!

[@ItsLorV2]

I couldn’t stand AI, and then when he came to Detroit on that bullshit I hated him even more (as a player). I think ppl had crushes on him or some shit idk

[@DirtyDev]

@@ItsLorV2 not that’s fair, as a pistons fan Detroit wasn’t right for AI and I think he even said that himself.

[@Supreme36074]

@@ItsLorV2promised him he was starting then switched up on him, even now you know that’s was going left. They tried to finesse him.

[@tanjiroushirogane690]

The way mj made basketball famous. So it's Mj Steph Magic-Bird Dr.J

[@JamesBond-mc2mx]

Kobe can’t be at number 7 😂 way more influential than damn near everyone else besides MJ and maybe Steph/AI. Kobe transcended into other sports.

[@donaldf9055]

More than Russell and mikan?

[@JamesBond-mc2mx]

@@donaldf9055 Absolutely! Respect to Russel tho

[@PrinceDJj]

Secondly, Big OX, I understand what you're saying, but I have to disagree with one point you made. When you said certain people don't have anything to prove to anybody, you're wrong about that. There is one person they have to prove something to, and that's themselves. For example, Kobe, Kyrie, and others wanted to prove to themselves that they could win or whatever by themselves.

[@ysnmoney]

Mamba Mentality >>>>

[@zoesh2441]

Nobody tries to play like Lebron, nobody tries to look like Lebron, nobody celebrate like Lebron, nobody screams Lebron while playing or shooting into a trash can. Lebron is highly respected. That is not equivalent to being influential. No way he’s more influential than Iverson. As in a matter of fact Iverson influenced him and many others.

[@AllStarKydd]

Where’s Drazen Petrovic @

[@Jojo_97242]

People forget Vinsinaty

[@factsonly6903]

Jordan AI Then everybody else…. I’m dying on the Hill that AI only comes second to Jordan as far as influence. He even passes Kobe with this one…

[@theofficialonce]

I know this comment is a little late, but if we're talking about Lebron's influence primarily on free agency and player movement, why wasn't Oscar Robertson mentioned? A lot of today's episode was emphasizing the predecessors and the pioneers of basketball, without Oscar, KG, Lebron, KD, etc, wouldn't have even been able to pull that off.

[@MarzTalksSports]

i considered oscar,and jerry i just didnt know what to do w them tbh

[@theofficialonce]

@@MarzTalksSports That makes sense. I guess they kinda get overlooked considering the players who were already listed

[@Mektek19]

Whenever these guys do this list they are always HORRIBLE. Not having Bird and Magic as a package deal is moronic. They are inseparable in terms of their impact.

[@juliovext999]

swipe does entirely way to much , swears he a main character

[@Mektek19]

Yah got to get Ron out of there. His basketball knowledge is trash.

[@officerricky3230]

Go replace him Mr mektek 😅

[@Matthew-xl5bc]

Mount Rushmore of NBA Most Influential Players: Michael Jordan Stephen Curry Bill Russell Allen Iverson

[@Kevinfrom870]

Trash list

[@TheHoopFeed]

Burner accounts are so necessary 🤣

[@tmizzle89]

The funny thing is these dudes weren't athletic at all except chill. And swiper is the biggest capper. Guaranteed dude cant play.

[@Jojo_97242]

Iverson got a bad influence

[@WRLdPeAcE96]

A channel with 122,000 subscribers shouldn’t be begging for likes😂

[@thatBRUDDA.]

Way bigger channels do the same

[@WRLdPeAcE96]

@@thatBRUDDA.name them

[@richuk69]

I think outside of the basketball context Jordan isn't that liked by black Americans I see a lot of negativity towards him I would say LeBron is held in higher regard

[@WICKEDfsho44]

T Mac …..

[@KleinpeterHank]

3:41 Schizophrenic Marz

[@celtv2500]

Minster swiper

[@Jojo_97242]

Iverson still dress like a teenager quite frankly

[@theblackbookclub1]

Props to swipa for that interview. Please be sure to share the link for it when it drops I would love to see it

[@jabarihadden9062]

Shaq influence Shaq A Fool.

[@TheDominiqueBallou]

Its def Kobe fault he not here

[@Yuiochung]

To chill- NO FOR Argument sake league isn’t wat it is being nice Yes tf it does can’t stop Jordan Ai lbj from being here the process would’ve just been delayed so to speak

[@tmizzle89]

Omg ron has iverson and curry over jordan? He does know iverson wanted to be jordan and so did kobe, and so did tmac, vince carter, ray allen, etc. The whole 2000s best players all turned into scorers became they grew up watching him. Ron says kids and china are running to the 3 point line. Jordan is what turned the game global and made china fans. Jordann is also the one to bring the leg sleeve and arm bands and i dont see the kids wearing A.I. or curry shoes. Who is lebron james idol? Jordan! Its not even close. Ron has gilbert arena style takes. Those guy are top 5 but jordan is number 1 and than theres a huge gap to number 2.

[@tmizzle89]

Lebron glaze is ridiculous. The social media and how much money the nba makes it possible for lebron do what he did. Jordan took the game global and made it so someone like lebron to have so much power. And peds and new age health knowledge is why he's still playing.

[@rewind_9657]

Please get swipa off the show asap

[@ikon1080]

Lebron is not the GOAT

[@tmizzle89]

Lebron ruined the game smh

[@YourPain5]

Why does chill continue to take a backseat to someone who has never dribbled a basketball let alone couldn't even pass the conditioning to make a soccer team. Chill you're knowledgeable and you've actually played but always taking a backseat to him and always letting him have the last word. 🤔

[@tanjiroushirogane690]

Who

[@MarzTalksSports]

@@tanjiroushirogane690hes talkin ab me

[@jrob830]

Lebron is a great guy for the reasons you all discussed, but there arent any players that replicate his game, style or off the court stuff. Yes he is the face of player empowerment, but everyone that did what he did afterwards has been demonized. Ex. KD, kawhi, paul george. I know people want him to be the best at everything.....this isn't one of those things at all.

[@zoesh2441]

🎯 🎯🎯

[@donaldf9055]

I mean if you talk about popularity and being the literal face of bball for two decades, that's impact. The story lines, the longevity, the clout, player empowerment, being a role model, that's impact and he has a case along with curry, mj, and bill Russell and George mikan. Infact, George might have the greatest case of them all if I'm tbh with you. Those 5 are the faces of NBA bball. People outside those five are Kobe, Jerry West, wilt, Kareem, Dr j, Shaq, magic, and bird, ai.

[@Mektek19]

The Mount Rushmore of NBA influence is Magic/Bird, Jordan, AI, then Curry. If any of those players don’t play the game looks dramatically different.

[@sage9510]

Remove AI and put kobe then the list is good

[@glyle2504]

MJ being number one is just obvious, and Bill Russel has a great case as just bigger than basketball in a way that makes his BASKETBALL impact lesser because his HUMANITY influence is larger-but Steph Curry changed the game in real time. Without a rule change. People talk about the three point revolution and all that and “oh the game was already progressing,” but no. The three point line was moved up in the 90’s for three years. The difference between the year prior to the third year of the line being moved up-Steph Curry had that same exact impact on three point volume in the same four years. Steph Curry simply existing as a three point shooter had the same impact on the game as moving up the three point line. There are genuinely no words for that.

[@puncho8799]

The fact that y’all have that picture of Jordan, let’s me know how salty y’all are that he’s the most influential NBA player of all time

[@MarzTalksSports]

Huh

[@puncho8799]

@@MarzTalksSports The way y’all have his face I’m sure y’all could have found a better picture of him

[@MarzTalksSports]

@@puncho8799 and that means were salty? when we voted for him number 1

[@puncho8799]

@@MarzTalksSports Why does everyone else on the thumbnail have normal looking faces but Jordan has this mean distorted look on his face

[@MarzTalksSports]

@@puncho8799 cest la vie

[@canadadry4609]

No nash in the TOP TEN for INFLUENCE is crazy.

[@MarzTalksSports]

Interesting i feel like we had a pretty good 9 names personally

[@canadadry4609]

@@MarzTalksSports I think he has to be up there for influence for the way the game is actually played. Hugely revolutionary in his time and the precursor to steph in a lot of ways.

[@MarzTalksSports]

@@canadadry4609 understandable

[@puncho8799]

It’s funny to see their enthusiasm, talking about LeBron‘s influence, but when it came to Jordan, the enthusiasm was not there. It’s pretty obvious none of them think Jordan is the goat, but they should not make it so obvious next time by the look on their faces and the short answers they gave. 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@TheCoachIce]

@@puncho8799 lebron is the goat Jordan is still a really great player

[@puncho8799]

@@TheCoachIce LeBron is your goat, but he’s not the majority of people goat Jordan has the majority of people on his side, so he’s the goat

[@dukeGed]

easy list MJ then Kobe then Curry

[@BmoreAce24]

Kobe over AI is crazy

[@rockness914]

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