Playing TALL is the ONLY way to play EU4...

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Laith

Laith

2 жыл бұрын

Playing Tall in EU4 is a well known strategy. Historically, I've been against EU4 playing tall nations, but something has made me change my mind. Definitely not April Fools, nope. Some say that EU4 1.33 changed the playinbg tall meta, but the concept is the same. Get high income. Play as the Dutch / EU4 Netherlands. Don't declare wars. Let me know your thoughts on this EU4 tall game!
Remember, Playing TALL is the ONLY way to play EU4...
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@TheSocialStreamers
@TheSocialStreamers 2 жыл бұрын
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@alender6200
@alender6200 2 жыл бұрын
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@Cecilia-ky3uw
@Cecilia-ky3uw 2 жыл бұрын
you can go to war to shape borders maybe lol
@gringlebandersnatch
@gringlebandersnatch 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone gonna tell him April Fool is about pranking us, not engaging in masochism.
@tritojean7549
@tritojean7549 2 жыл бұрын
he actually love playing tall, he praked you by faking that he hate it
@nibiru2026
@nibiru2026 2 жыл бұрын
I like playing tall because i like to imagine the nation being prosperous and the governament being praised by the people while my enemies dont even have food to eat :)
@specil-k
@specil-k 2 жыл бұрын
Playing tall is so you can do easy diplomatic vassalization, pay stacks upon stacks of mercenaries to fight wars for you, swim in cash and take on the world this looks like torture
@toreq1127
@toreq1127 2 жыл бұрын
UM NO UR SUPPOSED TO SOMETIMES CLICK BUTTON WHILE AFK
@hellmad
@hellmad 2 жыл бұрын
Also so you can roleplay modern US and just fund whatever states fight that will entertain you the most
@TheLibermania
@TheLibermania 2 жыл бұрын
@@toreq1127 Whatever UM means. But you're not supposed to use capslock.
@JoshuaC34
@JoshuaC34 2 жыл бұрын
This was great. I would love more content like this, this is one of the first videos I've watched fully to the end. In fact, I think you should continue this game all the way to 1821.
@flamingbull3438
@flamingbull3438 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. This is one we take to the end of the game
@sizanogreen9900
@sizanogreen9900 2 жыл бұрын
honestly tho, this looks like great fun, I feels so stupid for not having tried this type of gameplay in all my time playing EU4. Just clicking those develop-buttons. Such thrill.
@empireofitalypsstimfromano5025
@empireofitalypsstimfromano5025 2 жыл бұрын
@@sizanogreen9900 You Don't Have To Be THIS Tall. You Can Just Be Moderate Tall And Colonize Some Stuff.
@sizanogreen9900
@sizanogreen9900 2 жыл бұрын
@@empireofitalypsstimfromano5025 nah, I've done that already, this seems far more fun.
@marchernandez4596
@marchernandez4596 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, loved It.
@TheLibermania
@TheLibermania 2 жыл бұрын
I love how sarcastic Laith is, when actually having the spare points to buff a province is a very satisfying feeling.
@MaXiMoS54
@MaXiMoS54 2 жыл бұрын
Clicking the development mapmode to see the rest of the world as the uncivilized backwater it is compared to you is certainly satisfying
@matthewhannigan1916
@matthewhannigan1916 2 жыл бұрын
Laith goes tall while Zlewikk goes the width of the Arab world as Castile. This is why we don't just skip to April second
@spacepenguin2570
@spacepenguin2570 2 жыл бұрын
Austria gets savoy more often than you would think. In one of my games they just took out France and Aragon so Austria was a Mediterranean power and had barely land in Germany.
@TheLibermania
@TheLibermania 2 жыл бұрын
Austria gets a lot of Random PUs in 1.33
@Mowraq
@Mowraq 2 жыл бұрын
There is "playing tall" and then there is "pointlessly playing tall". You play tall to do something with your income and manpower.
@kabobawsome
@kabobawsome 2 жыл бұрын
Would actually love to see you really try playing Tall, because an interventionist tall game was the most fun game I've ever had. Ever brought Russia proper to its knees with only 30 provinces? I have.
@kgapaneseschoolgirlb
@kgapaneseschoolgirlb 2 жыл бұрын
Playing tall means you ‘show of strength’ or humiliate in every war, vassalise other nations, and just get involved and fight every proxy war you can ‘“just because” with tons of mercs because you have stacks and stacks of cash, as well as going colonial usually. So when you’re not intentionally trying to be a masochist for April Fool’s, it can be a pretty fun experience.
@deathgnomes
@deathgnomes 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, how'd that work out for Carthage?
@goksir5845
@goksir5845 2 жыл бұрын
None of what you mentioned sounds like a very fun experience. Except maybe vassalizing.
@ah-lv1gc
@ah-lv1gc 2 жыл бұрын
@@goksir5845 It is amazing that we live in a world where you can decide what is fun for others
@kgapaneseschoolgirlb
@kgapaneseschoolgirlb 2 жыл бұрын
@@goksir5845 It’s basically how you play the Austria mission tree. That one starts tall then ends wide. Usually people start wide then go tall, but I think the Austrian way is better. Plus, I personally love proxy wars (so does the United States 🇺🇸 if you know what I mean) it’s like Hoi4 Spain or China which I also love because if you lose, oh well, not your problem.
@goksir5845
@goksir5845 2 жыл бұрын
@@ah-lv1gc Well if I successfully decided for you what is fun then you can count my comment a strange unexpected success. That was of course my whole intended purpose, because I have a genuine disdain for anyone who plays videogames differently than me and I need to convert them so they stop worshipping false idols. Yes, in fact there was not a single subjective element in my comment. My sole purpose was to objectively define what makes Europa Universalis 4 gameplay fun for everyone.
@fvux5393
@fvux5393 2 жыл бұрын
10:00 You pronounce it as 'sertogenboss' . The "''s-" part is short for 'des', which is old Dutch for "Of" of "The". The name is derived from Des Hertogen Bosch, which means Forest of the Duke. In local mouth it is often called Den Bosch, literally translated from older Dutch "The Forest"
@WritingGeekNL
@WritingGeekNL 2 жыл бұрын
14:40 I feel offended... not only by the fact that this is indeed my playing style... but also because I am Dutch. Playing tall is my culture, it is in my veins okay. Ik voel mij nu beledigd en genaaid, ik hoop u ooit op het slagveld te treffen en voor eens en altijd duidelijk te maken dat Lang > Wijd.
@TheLibermania
@TheLibermania 2 жыл бұрын
I love how I understand reading it, but I would never be able to understand if you spoke it.
@WritingGeekNL
@WritingGeekNL 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheLibermania Hehehe, I mean, Dutch is the second clpsest language to English. Only Frisian is closer.
@TheLibermania
@TheLibermania 2 жыл бұрын
@@WritingGeekNL But i'm not english.
@spudeism
@spudeism 2 жыл бұрын
IK OOK HITLER DOOD WAT NOU OOPSIE TRAIN IS STUKKIE WUKKIE
@alpacaalpaca2509
@alpacaalpaca2509 2 жыл бұрын
Lang is groter dan Wijd is toch wel de beste manier om deze comment te beëindigen
@andrewkomarov3925
@andrewkomarov3925 2 жыл бұрын
Your size doesn't matter when playing tall. What matters is that you get the most out of the provinces you have. For example, If you are playing as the Duch you conquer the trade center in the English Chanel colonize expanded whatever but unlike in a normal game you prioritize improving your land over taking other's but you still Expand
@kabobawsome
@kabobawsome 2 жыл бұрын
I have done a Netherlands game where I do not expand outside of its largest historical European borders, and it was somehow the most war-mongery game I've ever had. Hired out a LOT of Condottieri when it was strategically worth it. I'd usually try to squeeze SOME money out of them, but I was more interested in preventing my rivals from gaining too much strength.
@andrewkomarov3925
@andrewkomarov3925 2 жыл бұрын
@@kabobawsome I didn't say you have to do a lot of expanding it's just that you don't sit around dev and do nothing else. You improve your land and sometimes expand as opposed to wide where you just expand more
@artanisplays3982
@artanisplays3982 2 жыл бұрын
Laith: wanting violence Tom: (in a calm voice) shout out to our patreons
@xryiz9354
@xryiz9354 2 жыл бұрын
amazing video, 10/10 would love to see another.
@SuperCrazyfin
@SuperCrazyfin 2 жыл бұрын
Finally you see the light
@alexanderhorne7164
@alexanderhorne7164 2 жыл бұрын
If you want to play tall you need to try out the dwarves in the anbennar mod!
@x2ernal357
@x2ernal357 2 жыл бұрын
Laith its ironic you're playing tall when you're 5'3" :]
@WritingGeekNL
@WritingGeekNL 2 жыл бұрын
The funniest part about this, is the fact that he doesn't even want to play tall.
@tropicalfruit4571
@tropicalfruit4571 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh for me playing tall is more of an opportunity to play wide lol. Like when I played as Holland to Netherlands I got so incredibly rich that I started WWI in 1650 or something like that. It was me, the French (which do nothing when you ally them, honestly it would have been better to turn on them), and the Spaniards against quite literally the entirety of Europe, I don't think there was one country in Europe, outside of my allies that didn't join these wars against me (oh yeah, there was more than one) but it's not that difficult when you earn like 500 a month, you go grossly over force limit with the army, you then get the mercenaries, build forts everywhere because why not, and now you are untouchable. Worst case scenario you white peace, best case scenario you win and get everything 50% off because it's a defensive war. I enjoy these HRE starts where you need to play tall to matter at all, but baby, it's all about getting into that place when you can raise hell.
@tigrecito48
@tigrecito48 2 жыл бұрын
i think this is the most interesting fun playthru youve done so far.. please do more playing tall videos!!!
@empireofitalypsstimfromano5025
@empireofitalypsstimfromano5025 2 жыл бұрын
But Seriously If He ACTUALLY Played Tall It Would Be Fun
@tigrecito48
@tigrecito48 2 жыл бұрын
@@empireofitalypsstimfromano5025 he could do both... why people think that doing world conquest in 50 years is interesting... its interesting to roleplay... to do historical expansion... he could still war, just war slowly.. not have coalition problems.. take a large netherlands area and the go colonial... or try to take all of the english channel areas... i did that as netherlands... took south england, released northumberland as vassal... took belgium, parts of denmark, some of france.. you dotn have to take all of europe to be doing well..
@lightflair905
@lightflair905 2 жыл бұрын
Hah you almost fooled me, but you obviously didn't get a haircut, that's a wig
@Ritter2749
@Ritter2749 2 жыл бұрын
Playing full speed, you are processing the moves so fast without drifting even!! Amazing
@Americano1175
@Americano1175 2 жыл бұрын
Wait this was an april fools joke? Wow Laith you had me fooled the entire video! I really thought you turned over a new leaf.
@timlenzke872
@timlenzke872 2 жыл бұрын
Playing tall in the Netherlands area is actually one of the most funny things in the game
@deathgnomes
@deathgnomes 2 жыл бұрын
I think I can see the light in his eyes fading and his soul leaving him. MORE!
@shoblette961
@shoblette961 2 жыл бұрын
You gotta do a sequel where you start conquering with your perfectly developed tall nation
@Talonidas7403
@Talonidas7403 2 жыл бұрын
I once had a game where the commonwealth reached all the way to HRE border (conquered Hungary), conquered around half of the Balkans, all of Ukraine and was getting into Anatolia from the North. I was playing as Mamluks. Needless to say I quit that campaign
@vicenteabalosdominguez5257
@vicenteabalosdominguez5257 2 жыл бұрын
This is the quality content I subscribed for.
@kindadumb916
@kindadumb916 2 жыл бұрын
Ironically, this is the first video I have watched all the way through in a while
@NLGKoen
@NLGKoen 2 жыл бұрын
Happy to know that Dutch is the best language
@Gaming4Justice
@Gaming4Justice 2 жыл бұрын
I almost died at the "Grand Pensionary" title XD absolutely has to be a real life title
@Theblueshark27
@Theblueshark27 2 жыл бұрын
's-Hertogenbosch isn't a glitch, it's an actual Dutch city.
@lucasbaas4786
@lucasbaas4786 2 жыл бұрын
Wait until he learns that the hague is actualy ‘s Gravenhage
@PH-jv4ik
@PH-jv4ik 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't realised how quickly these videos were edited after the World Cup draw comment
@kevinlopes1343
@kevinlopes1343 2 жыл бұрын
Someone needs to teach this guy what playing tall is
@kcaddej2955
@kcaddej2955 2 жыл бұрын
So, found this channel couple of days ago, watched couple of videos, like 6 or so, somehow in everyone he had a haircut, nice
@8thinput80
@8thinput80 2 жыл бұрын
This is actually footage from an alternate universe. The real Laith was playing as Poland.
@electricVGC
@electricVGC 2 жыл бұрын
we need a co op tall video
@petergama6074
@petergama6074 2 жыл бұрын
I prefer tall mostly because of the lack of headache you get from playing wide I very much like the lack of endless rebellions and the lack of endless chasing of armies and rebels but you need to expand playing tall is playing wide slowly in my opinion you still manage to conquer all of Europe by the 1750 so yeah
@chengzhou8711
@chengzhou8711 2 жыл бұрын
I would recommend looking into Machiavelli‘s prince
@martinus_mars
@martinus_mars 2 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing a post about a tall GB with... over 20,000 development
@nooraldeen6327
@nooraldeen6327 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe it i actually fell a sleep unintentionally for like an hour watching this videos.
@imspudus
@imspudus 2 жыл бұрын
Laith: Dutch isn’t a real language Me is Dutch Australian that doesn’t speak Dutch : sad Dutch noises
@kalterverwalter4516
@kalterverwalter4516 2 жыл бұрын
Its Well known That Durch is Just a Joke Language to Trick Germans 😂
@elgirl19
@elgirl19 2 жыл бұрын
Should’ve done this in flavor universailas with all the crazy dev cost modifier monuments
@mikhaillankin6832
@mikhaillankin6832 Жыл бұрын
my absolute best and most intensive playthrough was playing as Candar (one of the ottoman beyliks, pronounced Jandar, located on the coast of the Black Sea, they've got some really good ideas for playing tall). first I had to crush the ottomans as a 2-(or3)province state - i think it took me like an entire day to play just these 10-15 years of war with the Ottomans; then i turned into a merchant republic, had to fight for key provinces in the black sea and the mediterranean, which i would then protect with the land of my vassals. then i would fight to create trade cities in the mediterranean trade nodes and make them join my trade league. once i managed to rip and tear my way to the gibraltar i took i think expansion (or exploration, don't remember) and set off to colonize africa; and since the spanish and portuguese had a head start there i had to duke it out with them all the time another really cool scenario for tall is Mogadishu. same deal - go merchant republic, take key provinces, create trade cities, colonize east. insane start, boatloads of fun. tldr - if you do it right, playing tall is at least as intensive as playing wide
@lebendystraw3683
@lebendystraw3683 2 жыл бұрын
There's a tuber named Kingtot, I think he has a good mix of tall and wide gameplay.
@Supercatzs
@Supercatzs 2 жыл бұрын
Is your bad haircut part of the april fools joke
@melanieroberson1683
@melanieroberson1683 2 жыл бұрын
the only person that makes me want to actually try to learn eu4
@Jamie-st6of
@Jamie-st6of 2 жыл бұрын
you can conquer playing tall by using vassals or by colonizing. and you can still do humiliation or trade wars.
@kalterverwalter4516
@kalterverwalter4516 2 жыл бұрын
Or by direct conquest.
@Jamie-st6of
@Jamie-st6of 2 жыл бұрын
@@kalterverwalter4516 if you're playing tall and limiting yourself to certain borders, then uh no
@kalterverwalter4516
@kalterverwalter4516 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jamie-st6of Yes Question IS which borders so you have in Mind. You can Play a Tall Germany a Tall Roman Empire a Tall India for example.
@them4601
@them4601 2 жыл бұрын
0:14 show us the headphone dent laith, you cant hide it forever
@kwicknik
@kwicknik 2 жыл бұрын
WE DEMAND MORE PLAYING TALL VIDEOS!
@MrTilldaddy
@MrTilldaddy 2 жыл бұрын
Laith finally sees the light!
@samperez6306
@samperez6306 2 жыл бұрын
Bohemia converted to Hussite? This is officially the craziest eu4 campaign ever…
@heartglow9125
@heartglow9125 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know I like playing tall BHT I am currently playing a French campaign. It shows that you can sway a lot of power with out owning a lot of land.
@JoeyMeijerhoorjebijons
@JoeyMeijerhoorjebijons 2 жыл бұрын
ah yes living in 's-Hertogenbosch and seeing people be shocked by the name is just great
@srsteck03
@srsteck03 2 жыл бұрын
I, like you with your game, walked away as this video played because I wanted your retention to stay high
@the33rdguy
@the33rdguy 2 жыл бұрын
I want part 2 now
@neogenesiseva01
@neogenesiseva01 2 жыл бұрын
Next time i have a chalenge for you if you play tall , have subject but you need to do everything possible to make them avance there how mission tree to the end them release them and do it again with another vassal :P
@loeloe95
@loeloe95 2 жыл бұрын
You should play meiou and taxes. You would hate..... ahem LOVE IT!
@sg_kerb
@sg_kerb 2 жыл бұрын
dutch is indeed the best language. how good of you to finally realize on your own with no outside coercion.
@Shayrin2
@Shayrin2 2 жыл бұрын
Construction Time should’ve been replaced by trade efficiency if serious.
@B100inCP
@B100inCP 2 жыл бұрын
now that april fools is over, this actually made me wanna play another netherlands game.
@alexanderzack3720
@alexanderzack3720 2 жыл бұрын
the sad thing is..... this campaign still went better than some of mine...... granted i have no idea how to properly play anything
@thecarroteylegend2637
@thecarroteylegend2637 2 жыл бұрын
3:07 you bro you been working out sheesh?
@trdrudedude6099
@trdrudedude6099 Жыл бұрын
Isn't it wierd how the tall man plays wide and the wide man plays tall
@adamlifevictor5772
@adamlifevictor5772 2 жыл бұрын
Play more of Dzungar, please
@Dell-ol6hb
@Dell-ol6hb 2 жыл бұрын
yea playing tall like this is kinda boring, I usually still war with my neighbors, just usually not for land and I occupy myself with colonizing
@kalterverwalter4516
@kalterverwalter4516 2 жыл бұрын
That is why I Love playing Tall in the HRE you can Conquer a Lot of stuff and abuse Show Strength. And even an Colonial Empire is Not Off the Charts.
@mayhamstern
@mayhamstern 2 жыл бұрын
Try playing Flanders, they are one of the best nations to play tall.
@danvernier198
@danvernier198 2 жыл бұрын
Continue this into a mega campaign with the other paradox games.
@fizzyvods235
@fizzyvods235 2 жыл бұрын
3:04. Ah yes, classic Laith, trying to explain himself, while he flexes his muscles at the camera. Touche Laith, Touche...
@ambeatch
@ambeatch 2 жыл бұрын
Forts! Always an aggressive structure!
@ousamadearu5960
@ousamadearu5960 2 жыл бұрын
torturing laith with boredom is the best
@makiskanyt9269
@makiskanyt9269 2 жыл бұрын
I watched the hole video can't say i am disappointed
@aldinajanovic8005
@aldinajanovic8005 2 жыл бұрын
It's not right seeing Laith with a haircut
@turcocum9454
@turcocum9454 2 жыл бұрын
How are you playing with monthly autosaves? It's really annoying
@TheLibermania
@TheLibermania 2 жыл бұрын
5:00 What about pillaging them?
@Gustav_Kuriga
@Gustav_Kuriga 2 жыл бұрын
Try a Free City Ulm game for true torture.
@PnzrDiv666
@PnzrDiv666 2 жыл бұрын
CK3 is the supperiör game when playing tall, and any öther playstyle :)
@aarema5224
@aarema5224 2 жыл бұрын
Damn you’re ripped.
@andrewparker3329
@andrewparker3329 2 жыл бұрын
No Caravan power/trade steering?
@jamesnewman5204
@jamesnewman5204 2 жыл бұрын
Can we get more playing tall?
@zachmoore6084
@zachmoore6084 2 жыл бұрын
How much are they paying you to play tall?
@zuludude2
@zuludude2 2 жыл бұрын
Part 2 when?
@punishedwhirligig3353
@punishedwhirligig3353 2 жыл бұрын
4:24 Chagatai moment
@user-hw3tw9kw8z
@user-hw3tw9kw8z 2 жыл бұрын
When is part 2
@lapisdragon1237
@lapisdragon1237 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone have actual advice for doing tall let's plays?
@kalterverwalter4516
@kalterverwalter4516 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. Play Hesse try to Form Westphalia Prussia and Germany Abuse (and I mean Abuse Show Strength CB) If you manage to Show strength 15-20 Times in the First 50 years That would be Perfect. Dont Conquer to much to fast or else your Rivals become to strong. And Go Innovative First. Why Inno First? Adviser cost also Ino gain is Not That Bad tbh. However this way you will Always have enough MP to Dev verry Early.
@spieschrl3a
@spieschrl3a 2 жыл бұрын
I mean you normally play tall for a bit get your Nation financially stronger to conquer later on
@addminus6672
@addminus6672 2 жыл бұрын
While playing this kind of game i like to rent out condottieri to AI nations for money, or become the world bank and give out loans/subsidies to AI nations
@addminus6672
@addminus6672 2 жыл бұрын
also what you did is a pacifist run not a tall one :p
@WhiteLama
@WhiteLama 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, why would anyone want to attack and seize the highly developed and undefended provinces of Paradise?
@AdamPersson
@AdamPersson 2 жыл бұрын
I get that this is an april fools thing but seeing him not pillage their capitals hurt me..physically.
@Tho-ugh-t
@Tho-ugh-t 2 жыл бұрын
Poland popping off
@spudzzy0373
@spudzzy0373 2 жыл бұрын
3:00 Theodoro stronk 💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪
@Virtrial
@Virtrial 2 жыл бұрын
This was much more entertaining than the democracy videos
@blueshift4106
@blueshift4106 2 жыл бұрын
Loved it. Should do a semi-serious playing tall though. Form Netherlands and no more European expansion. Just blob colonies everywhere.
@yassinemraihi5530
@yassinemraihi5530 2 жыл бұрын
13:50 ye we are very screwed
@RyRy2057
@RyRy2057 2 жыл бұрын
ive been playing tall since 2013 tbh shit's fun as fuck. war sucks i just wanna grow the economy
@ChromaticCluck
@ChromaticCluck Жыл бұрын
As tall you should have made a lot of colonies on gold mines.
@kagtkalem7115
@kagtkalem7115 Жыл бұрын
you were supposed to colonize, use your navy, fill your land with unpregnable forts, subsidizing allies and undermining enemies. playing tall is not waiting mana to dev up.
@simonmay1671
@simonmay1671 2 жыл бұрын
Laith: 14:40 Also Laith: Let's play democracy 4!
@yaonok
@yaonok 2 жыл бұрын
Where humble bundle link
@rensd12
@rensd12 2 жыл бұрын
01:53 aight imma head out..... 01:56 ................. ok imma stay
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