Playing Terran Without MARINES and Getting ACCUSED Of Hacking... | BGMWSS

Today another banging episode of beating grandmasters with stupid stuff
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[@vanidy0115]

Imagine being the guy accusing Captain and seeing the POV on this video 💀💀💀

[@matthewreid6495]

Do you think that guy knows how to enable POV? :P

[@judicatorhurayth1927]

Then what about the review??

[@Athelas952]

I wouldn't feel bad because it looked sus as hell, everything in that game screamed maphacks

[@ToTheNines87368]

In the olden days people would stream with map hacks. It wasn’t that hard to hide. Of course Harstem clearly isn’t, but showing your POV doesn’t necessarily prove you’re innocent 😅

[@hujahuja]

Imagine he sends this to harstem for is it imba or do i suck

[@StpMakinMeChangMyNam]

I like how in the final game Harstem messed up his natural base placement, called it out immediately, then never fixed it. Seeing the 20/20 hovering over the CC the rest of the game was like Blizzard pointing and laughing at him repeatedly. I'm surprised they even coded the game to calculate the new optimal worker count with the CC too far from the minerals. I don't know who thought to do that or why it works, but I appreciate you Blizzard coding man.

[@Kerostasis]

The 20/20 wasn't an adjusted calculation for the primary mineral field, it was because the slightly-wrong-CC-placement was JUST close enough to the extra minerals to the left of the base to include 2 of those in the count. The calculation is still just (number of mineral fields x 2).

[@neruneri]

I really hope the accuser finds this video. Not because I'm spiteful of him, I really just think he would find it really hilarious to see this POV and realize how wrong he was.

[@whateverppl1229]

harstem explaining why he isnt cheating, feels like "but guys, I'm actually not cheating THIS time"

[@adammuela1765]

Funnily enough, I think he's a talented enough entertainer/2nd Language English speaker, that his choice of words was intentionally trying to constrew that for humors sake.

[@XanderCrews4Prez]

I believe Harstem to be far too well-mannered to cheat. He seems very honorable.

[@chir0pter]

it's honestly the helpful hints like if you've been chasing Bugs Bunny within the past 24 hours don't go running into tunnels bc they may be painted onto the side of a cliff that keep me coming back to this channel

[@unknownkw]

You need hellbats to absorb damage. Pure marauders simply bad damage against zealots while taking too much damage from stalkers. You should get blue flame hellbats along with marauders. Reactor your factory to produce hellions non-stop and reduce the number of barracks.

[@SteamPaladin]

but that would be smart, and this is beating grandmasters with STUPID stuff silly :P

[@mh-fh2vy]

Ghosts + marauders would be better

[@Frontline_view_kaiser]

@@mh-fh2vy yeah, if you can get there

[@themosthighvaluemaninthega9048]

@@mh-fh2vy hellbats + marauders + ghosts would be better. He does indeed need hellbats to survive before even considering ghosts

[@Nightwalk444]

If you're higher MMR than Harstem you can talk.

[@mikhailn1774]

Harstem, loosing every single game: “Terrans do not have imagination, they need a Protoss for making a new interesting build” 😂

[@fongelias]

"looks like that was fairly important"

[@danielskrivan6921]

An idea for the finals of Who Wants to Be a GM: replays of BGMWSS and who can guess first what the challenge was

[@chir0pter]

more like Who Wants to Be a SS?

[@RobCanadian1]

I know it's been in a few videos now but I'm really liking the scripted intro. The transition to live commentary is very smooth, well done!

[@NoStoriesToday]

another idea for bgmwss: Collector's challenge - try to build every kind of unit possible and kill your opponent with that "ultimate composition". You can harass, defend, but you will not attack until you've collected every kind of combat unit of the race. Will be fun to see some unit interactions we normally don't see

[@GamingPandaCat]

I think that's called the Box Art comp and can be found in the wild around the silver/bronze mmr

[@davidanderson9103]

I think it is great that you still post videos when your ideas don't work great, as that can still be entertaining and informative. Not quite as fun as watching you roflstomp people, but still fun. :)

[@zaksmith1035]

Yeah, I like it when they go terribly. Somehow watching Harstem squirm is good fun, from time to time. Also, it's a nice learning experience.

[@DFGdanger]

I can just hear Tasteless in my head saying, "Well, I guess this is why we don't ever see this build..."

[@martinsramek8643]

The way harstem never corrected the misplaced CC in the last game was triggering my perfectionist side so hard

[@EnRandomSten]

25:00 is a god damn excellent reaction clip lmfao

[@VirtuelleWeltenMitKhan]

The marine! .... NOOOOO xD

[@VirtuelleWeltenMitKhan]

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[@Spaminator3000]

He never repositioned the CC, either, did he? :S

[@Rtheghost]

5:38 you blocked this "tea"-named guy, like putting him inside some kind of bag...🤣

[@princess_love9929]

The marauder is so jolly, favorite terran unit. On another note I had an idea for BGWSS from watching a Serial game, he was using nydus worms to mine out people's bases. I wonder if you could do one where you try to steal as many of their resources as possible. Anyways thanks for the video!

[@finalben7]

The current state of SC2 is that if you don't play a standard opener you're a hacker 🤣

[@zes7215]

wrr

[@shieldphaser]

@rdnx_x Mm, but once is luck. Twice is coincidence. Only at the third strike does it become "sus".

[@perniciousthought9173]

@rdnx_x IN WHAT world is that sus??? The cyclone was going accros the map, at least move on the side or smth

[@victornunes9845]

@@rdnx_x2651 Is this the first SC2 game you've watched?

[@ahmedbasic1682]

I was one of those players that never follow up some standard build or standard lane of movements and amount of times I was called cheater I am suprised there are not series about investigation of my matches haha

[@nnlark]

Love your stuff, man. Keep up the awesome humor!! 🤣

[@stagecoachrobbery]

I think you need more planetaries in the choke points to make this build work.

[@NathanTheDwarvenShark]

That and hellbats. It is technically a bio units and is better vs zealots/lings.

[@sirgamermore8518]

Watching your TvP was killing me as I yelled Hellbats! Hellbats for the zealots! Much love lol

[@lilalunex]

Had a good time. This video hat many good laughs in it. Thank you Harstem.

[@SchizophrenicRuneterran]

Amazing content, as per usual you absolute beast. Even if you lost more than you won, I still enjoyed the video.

[@NisseCrusader]

I put a playlist of your videos to play on my tv when i'm away so my doggo can watch you. He's very fond of you.

[@xray5006]

Would love to see this specifically become a series, not the beating grandmasters with stupid stuff, but specifically no marines

[@whateverppl1229]

5:25 it would be fairly easy to do, most cheats you buy on games have an option to hide it from recording software, obs, etc. (of course depending on who made the programs, it can easily have lots of bugs which I find beautiful. makes for great clips of streamers getting busted)

[@jfigsueroa9039]

Imagine being so bad that you accused people of cheating. Yet you know so much about cheating?? Anyone else confused with this type of nonsensical comments? Ckinsman told on himself someone find his account to report.

[@Dunkster74]

@@jfigsueroa9039 bro i've never had chlamydia but i know a whole lot about it. the fuck you waffling about?

[@cleanerwhite9470]

@@jfigsueroa9039 How did you come to interpret his comment as such is beyond me. Poor guy was just giving interesting info wtf?

[@pablovirus]

​​@@jfigsueroa9039 what the hell are you talking about. he isn't accusing anyone of anything. Learn to read

[@fluffyfang4213]

​@@jfigsueroa9039 I'm bored so I'm gonna pick this apart "Accuse people of cheating" - As noted by other comments, this didn't even happen. "Know so much about cheating" - You could get this info from a single cheat interface (not hard to find) or a streamer fail compilation. Wouldn't even need to download anything, but I still appreciate the info being provided. Confused with this type of nonsensical comments?" - I guess yes. Your nonsensical comment does confuse me. "Find his account" - First of all, how? Second of all, it was never specified this was how SC2 cheats work. I wouldn't even know which account to look for :D "Report" - Supposedly to Blizzard. Haha.

[@douglasbessette6045]

The main advantage to early marauders is their ability to destroy structures quickly.. otherwise all you really need is a small group in front to tank damage. Terran more than other matchups requires you to think in proportions of forces like 2 marines to every 1 marauders. Always keep your final composition in mind. In the extreme early game marauders can depower and supply block your opponent but expect the hard counter captain.

[@CrossMax122]

I mean, the IODIS complaint about marauders might be right...

[@hamburgers7817]

This was super funny and interesting Harstem, you should explore this more. I wonder what would happen if you hit a timing attack with marauders and 2 or 3 ghosts vs P. Not sure if that's good or garbage.

[@r4in407]

maybe it is... burgir! :3

[@NathanTheDwarvenShark]

Seeing some hellbats in to help the Mossrauders vs the lighter units would be pog

[@Supergoon1989]

"I promise you, my friend..I am not hacking. I promise you..I am just an idiot!' XD

[@EternalHappElements]

I think sprinkle some reaper would help control distance and kiting significantly. Lure enemies into a tank range and transition into raven or something would make the game much entertaining.

[@Shegin]

As a guy how plays marauder opener in TvT a lot i can say yes, its hard hard counter to 2 rax reapers unless you skip concussives for faster factory (then it's a bit harder to manage but still good). Not that much vs 3 rax reaper tho (still have to be carefull). This build works way better if you do reaper-wall with your starting rax+lab and 1 supply (or 2 if you have unfortunate side of the map but its way worse vs tank-push then). Use to play it on 4-4.5k mmr so probably it's a bit less straightforward on top level.

[@andreashalbfeld7671]

You're a content MACHINE!

[@courageousmelon5654]

9:28 "the one thing I care most about in life my score on the ladder" Ohhh boyy Harstem is gonna be going to an undisclosed location again, completely voluntarily and eat some wild patat afterwards in the forest!

[@Tuxedothursday]

What a video title, I can't NOT click on this, too much fun!

[@adicacid]

Would hellbats be an acceptable response to zealots in this case? They would be like marines in a sense that they only cost minerals. Though the immediate problems I see are that hellbats would be harder to get in higher numbers since there are fewer factories in a non-mech build and they would likely be the first to die since they're melee units.

[@sagacity1071]

Reminds of one of Artosis's games where his openent zerg built a sunk before lings and he almost burned his house down.

[@Zerophoenix1]

ive never been a big starcraft gamer but your vids are good nonetheless. one day when im a big boy ill play more starcraft

[@momom6197]

"Marauders! The latest in big bada-boom hardware!" "I don't know if this is the best time to be experimenting, Captain..." "Pfft. Best time there is! Let the marauders loose against these zealots and you'll see!" > Marauders get hacked into pieces. "What is this garbage? This unit has *no* damage output!"

[@teknoreaper9232]

21:50 I can't believe he actually saw that lmao.

[@danielskrivan6921]

My favorite Terran build, which works at gold league against both Terran and Protoss, is proxy 2 rax, fly them into the opponent's base, and build marauders from there. Similar to builds that TY and Byun have done, but absolutely all-in

[@VirtuelleWeltenMitKhan]

How many marauders? Asking for a friend....

[@danielskrivan6921]

@@VirtuelleWeltenMitKhan Either when you're spotted, or when concussive finishes (which should be 4 marauders), whichever came first.

[@VirtuelleWeltenMitKhan]

@@danielskrivan6921 thank you, makes sense

[@danielskrivan6921]

@@VirtuelleWeltenMitKhan One of my favorite opponents had scouted my base and was like "I know what this is", but then when the Marauders appeared he went "Lol, no I didn't"

[@VirtuelleWeltenMitKhan]

@@danielskrivan6921 Haha

[@geuros]

To be fair, many Terrans, especially turtle mech ones, open tech lab first immediately into concussive.

[@adaptabledisease]

Hate to see you lose, but im here for the struggle!

[@Wwillswords]

It's nice to know that even the best of us lose

[@nickGarbers-zq2er]

Love the idea never made it out of just mass marauder though.

[@3rdcain356]

i remember playing mass rauders against.... well everything in low elo, for some reason the worst thing happening to them was not even Air units, it was blink stalkers and ppl who did use the blink, rauders a pretty awesome, tho they are kinda slow overall - best way i can discribe them

[@plantex625]

Was hoping to see some quick Ghosts here

[@truthless4720]

Floating a lot of minerals. A bunch of bunkers with a couple of mines behind and I'm pretty sure you would've held that.

[@JC-wl1vf]

Please do a mass Overseer Contaminate to shut down opponents production for BGMWSS! Awesome content as always :)

[@markmonster3315]

You need Reapers to cause chaos in their ranks while the Marauders pummel those that get blown towards you.

[@markmonster3315]

And you need to get 3/0 ASAP

[@odnamsrazor2364]

Daffy Dook is the vindictive one who would sabotage the slope in retaliation. Bugs is more happy go lucky and would just step aside from your initial attack and let it boomerang on you.

[@Ghi102]

I guess that Concussive Shell Marauders probably hard counter proxy barracks, but probably loses to everything else

[@min009]

Thanks Captain. I tried this and lost every games.

[@lasse123123]

4:16 Hero SCV killing two marauders!

[@VirtuelleWeltenMitKhan]

haha nice catch ...very nice :D

[@timothydavis8388]

Not Harstem forgetting Terran buildings can fly to reposition cc

[@m.lebedev1493]

35:04 uThermal laughing in mass ghosts ;)

[@sykedem_yt6254]

33:53 he turned into an Irishmen

[@ds8867]

2 rax reaper cheese into cyclones into mech into flaming. Classic ladder

[@yefremjr]

I believe Alex007 plays two marauders specifically to counter this kind of stuff. At least he used to, haven't watched his stuff for a while

[@Federico-1]

was that the Drunk Zealot who harstem said was home from college on the weekend to play a few games on his desktop? lol

[@asharak84]

widow mines my dude, it's how you deal with zealots in any style. They're not marines, you're allowed them! So much time spent with marauders blasting at zealots doing little rather than the juicy stalkers behind. (says a noob :D backseat gamers unite)

[@Srcazm]

"I'm not hacking, I'm just an idiot" ROFL

[@dudenukem1594]

welcome to LTGMWSS

[@hauntingthegrave]

Lmaooo send this to pig for a salt mines 😂😂

[@brandonmizell468]

BGMWSS idea - HITMAN - must attack with only warp prisms, can build bigger army, but only send out hitsquads at a time

[@Johnson-ht1yj]

Hey harstem how do u put the apm counter into your hud bar. Ive search some settings and couldn't find it can you tell me how u have that enabled?

[@skunkboy72]

I thought this was Terran Without MARINES, not Terran With Only MARAUDERS

[@emilypiens9900]

the main take away from this for me is that apparently, if you win but they call you a hacker it doesn't count so logically, if you loose, but call your opponent a hacker, it also doesn't count, so from now on I'll just type "hacker" every game I loose before I gg, and and boom, I'll never loose mmr again. gm here I come!

[@serhiyUman]

maradeurs good from early beginning in non stop pushing, they slows enemy and took damage. mix them with marines or something to make damage

[@Manderson0228]

Blurring it out to the point where you can still clearly read what is written😂

[@LadyMorrigan]

when you want to pretend like you care about anonymity but actually just want to troll lmao

[@stephanreiken9912]

Youd think after seeing someone build just marauders and tanks, theyd build something that they cant deal with like a couple banshees

[@VirtuelleWeltenMitKhan]

Just mass stalker and zealot if it works, it works

[@stephanreiken9912]

@@VirtuelleWeltenMitKhan I'm referring to the TvT, not TvP

[@normanlandstruck3985]

Man, calling someone a hacker has to be some elite 200IQ move. It's happened to me and I always catch myself making silly mistakes after like my brain starts holding me back.

[@kirturbo267]

BGMWSS Blinkstalkers with oracle stasis ward and use disruptors to clear the army thats trapped with nova.

[@stephenbulley2128]

We’re not going to talk about how he never moved his CC in the last game? 😂

[@cadendennis3019]

Im so surprised we didnt see any blue flame hellions or hellbats

[@eddie-booth]

i am tilted that mr captain harstem never lifted his natural to move it to the correct location in the last game

[@victornunes9845]

You needed blue flame hellbats to deal with the zealots. Embrace the stupidity and go full NA

[@zombieGI]

Stalkers do really good vs marauders in small numbers. This really should not be the case. I was surprised at the losses vs stalkers. Maybe some bunkers to spend all those minerals would have been good

[@ligreze]

Actually, Ruff plays tech lab into fast 2 marauders opener in TvT, coz marauders counters reapers ^^

[@Sara_Feingold]

Somehow, I doubt that a Terran who opens proxy reaper and then complains that you're hacking is going to leave with a "gg" :)

[@goodlearnerbadstudent756]

would some hellbats(with marauders) help vs the zealots?

[@KumarBendrake]

Many of us believe that your play will greatly benefit from internalizing the lessons of "The Book of Five Rings." "To win any battle, you must [not think of MMR but] fight as if you are already dead" ~Miyamoto Musashi

[@dustinmorrison6315]

Next up: Zerg without zerglings.

[@pablovirus]

Zerg without Queens

[@zaksmith1035]

@@pablovirus That would be for Harstem's new Series: Beating Grandmasters with Impossible Stuff. I can't see anything other than a massive cheese working without Queens. They're so necessary to every aspect of the Zerg strategy. You'd have to build something like 5 Macro hatcheries to have anything close to enough units to compete.

[@zhadoomzx]

Hellbats dude please try that with hellbats... you were floating 1400+ minerals occasionally. They cost no gas and they are great against zealots. Go double factory helion hellbat marauder

[@Cheshire9k]

A Hellbat is biological so its a legit unit in Terran bio, you should add it in next time against Zerg and Zealots.

[@matth1005]

My man lost because he forgot to re-align the command center

[@octaviusaugustus7205]

Do an episode where you use one CC per two "bases", like, medium distance mining from two places with one CC

[@TheIndignation]

No marine without pure mech challenge is interesting, but mass marauder challenge vs Protoss ain't so great lol.

[@zhadoomzx]

You need blue flame hellbats with your marauders... you know, they are really good against zealots. And since you cant make marines, it would make an excellent mineral dump.

[@st4ndby]

Bit je wanted to Play bio without marines. Hellbats are mech

[@Heyani32]

@@st4ndby i mean, they are both mech and bio, since they can get repaired by scv's and healed by medivacs at the same time

[@st4ndby]

@@Heyani32 its not considered as a bio unit in sc2 terms. Bio is what comes out of barracs + medivac support

[@NathanTheDwarvenShark]

@@st4ndby I think he wouldn't be opposed to it, a few games he made siege tanks and widow mines. Hellbats aren't that far fetched if they are just assisting the mossrauders in cleaning up light units.

[@zhadoomzx]

@@st4ndby Even the most hardcore bio pro players have builds where they mix in 2-8 helions early game for scout, harass, AoE... might as well convert them to hellbats and grill some zealots.

[@TweeTV_]

captain looks good in this vid id let him steer any ship i'm on

[@mikesavagetv]

Maybe the key against toss is getting planetary on the third cause it will help to defend and you don't need that much minerals cs not producing marines

[@henningbreede6428]

That only makes him fall further behind in eco.

[@NathanTheDwarvenShark]

Hellbats would helpout. They could clear zealots whilst the marauders go for Stalkers.

[@kaloyanangelov8042]

I feel like you can really go from that marauder push and then transition into something else, like cyclone, few marauders and the and then BC, or ghosts or something like that

[@kennyfarmi9878]

that drunkzealot seems familiar, he may appear on pig channel

[@mh1593]

Game 3: Rush ghosts out or use hellbats for anti-zealot abilities. And their proxy gateway sucked bawls

[@bullpup1337]

stupid question but why play marauder against mass zealout? why not add more mines, some hellbats, perhaps banshees or libs, anything? or at least some bunkers?

[@jkw6259]

It seems like this build is countered by any numbers of zelots and bugs bunny slips.

[@jonsolo32]

Pssst. It’s not just the Marine. It’s the fact that they produce TWO AT A TIME. 😂

[@3v1lp1ngv1n]

Kaboom? Kaboom baby!

[@mucxlx]

you should have added blueflame hellbats to get rid of the zealots and in early add some reapers. I play a lot of desert strike and hellbats absolutely destroy zealots if in sufficient number.

[@henningbreede6428]

Good thing that desert strike and the real game have little in common. It's just too slow to get a 2nd factory, a techlab on it and research blueflame.

[@mucxlx]

@@henningbreede6428 yeah sure but the enemy constantly pumped massive amounts of zealots for minutes and what other unit can you build fast that deal with it? You just start with normal hellbats that also work and when blueflame finishes zealots are basicly done. You can also build 2 at a time in a factory. What you can also do is tank with rauders and have helions behind them. But this only works when the army is in formation.

[@Mesmakers]

it takes 15 marauder shots to kill a zealot, they are so much of a counter to mass marauder that in the help menus it shows them as a counter.

[@rozmarinideas5340]

Archons are good, too, as they aren't slowed by concussive. Zealots are countered by Widow Mines, though, which means this challenge is fine.

[@marcinlucki1272]

Elo Cheese Man! If i can sugest something,can u try as follow: TvP - Maruder/Medivac/Thor TvT - M/M/Viking TvZ - M/M/Hellbat I would love to see your try on that in next video🤩

[@PluvioZA]

The Marauders can work even though they are terrible against Zealots, throw in some hell bats and tanks?